True Patriot Love - Is Canada Entering a Constitutional Crisis？ ft. Maxime Bernier

00:00:00.000 I will ask a question. What are you doing for the sovereignty of our country? Because we are losing

00:00:09.280 our sovereignty with mass immigration, but also the constitutional crisis that is happening in 1.00

00:00:15.760 our country. They don't speak about that. Nobody has a question about the constitutional crisis

00:00:20.320 that is happening in Alberta right now and in Quebec in a couple of months. Which policies

00:00:28.080 Carney must do to be able to preserve our country united and free and there's a chance that this

00:00:36.320 country will disappear if Alberta vote yes or if Quebec vote yes I don't know what would happen

00:00:43.840 with our country so question about you know the future of Canada the sovereignty of our country

00:00:50.400 and the fight for keeping our country and being sure that Alberta will be happy in here in Canada

00:00:57.440 as you know carney signed an agreement with premier smith uh nothing is happening there

00:01:04.960 uh you know they were supposed to have more economic and and resources development and

00:01:12.080 that's not happening and i believe that if they don't have any solution in the near future

00:01:17.760 more people will vote on the yes side so that may be and the mainstream media are not asking

00:01:23.280 question like that they are taking for granted that the canada that we know will stay like that

00:01:28.880 and won't change in the next couple of years but yes it may change for not the better if we are

00:01:35.680 losing alberta or quebec hi and thank you for being there i'm mike and this time paul macucci

00:01:43.120 and i are joined by one of the most outspoken and controversial figures in canadian politics

00:01:48.320 Maxime Bernier. At a time when Canada's political landscape is shifting fast with rising costs,

00:01:53.940 global instability, and growing frustration with the establishment, Bernier is still pushing a

00:01:59.380 message that rejects both the Liberals and Conservatives, arguing that Canada needs a

00:02:04.160 complete reset. But here's the reality. After a brutal 2025 election where his party support

00:02:10.080 collapsed to under 1%, and with polling today still showing the PPC on the fringe,

00:02:15.900 the question is no longer just about his ideas it's about relevance can Bernier rebuild is there

00:02:23.260 still a lane for his brand of politics in Canada or has the movement peaked let's get into it with

00:02:29.820 Maxime Bernier. Maxime Bernier thank you for joining us today a delight to have you I'm very

00:02:40.420 pleased to be with you guys well look at us here uh as i mentioned to you just before we began the

00:02:46.500 liberal convention is underway in montreal uh quebec is lit up with the uh the liberal red at

00:02:52.740 the moment uh at a time where uh i think probably like many canadians you've been watching the

00:02:59.700 crossing of the floor uh syndrome that is happening and shaking your head i'm wondering what your

00:03:05.620 perspective is on that? And what are the Conservatives going to do about this? What's

00:03:11.200 happening over there? Yeah, you know, I've said a long time ago that the Conservative Party of

00:03:19.200 Canada and the Liberal Party of Canada, they are like the same on the very important issues for

00:03:26.240 the future of our country. And actually, that's why I'm not so surprised that you have Conservative

00:03:33.800 MPs who are crossing the floor to the Liberals. They want to do that maybe just for their personal

00:03:42.140 future. Maybe Carney did offer them a new position in his government. We will see that

00:03:50.580 in a couple of months. But that being said, when they're doing that, they are not respecting the

00:03:57.680 wish of their voters. And that's why if you look historically, when you have an MP who is crossing 0.98

00:04:05.880 the floor to another party, you know, they were not able to be reelected after that. And that's

00:04:13.480 historic. You know, nobody was able to be elected after crossing the floor. So if you look at these

00:04:22.060 MPs who cross the floor maybe they decided that would be their last mandate their last term and

00:04:30.140 maybe they won't they won't be a candidate at the next general election and they're doing that for

00:04:37.500 their own pension and as you know if you are a minister in a government your salary would

00:04:43.660 increase if your salary increase your pension will increase so they're doing that not for the right

00:04:51.020 reason uh but also on a side honest it can be easier for them to go to the liberals with mark

00:04:58.780 carney um because on some issues like you know deficit spending money that we don't have foreign

00:05:06.220 aids corporate subsidies all that it's it's like the the conservative they agree with that and

00:05:13.100 polyev did a campaign about that you know not cutting any corporate subsidies and not doing

00:05:19.500 anything about the climate hysteria so it's the same with carney and the liberals and for me you

00:05:27.340 know the people's party we uh we will be ready when when the election uh will come but that being

00:05:36.060 said uh i believe that it will be only in three or four years uh and that's a little bit disappointing

00:05:43.420 uh now what do you think about the canadian's opinion on uh floor crossing i mean constituents

00:05:50.940 must be outraged and certainly we're seeing it in our comments uh on a daily basis that this

00:05:57.340 almost seems unconstitutional or undemocratic and it also seems to i hate to say it it seems to

00:06:05.420 show the cracks in the armor of uh a party that's had a long-standing uh you know position here in

00:06:11.980 canada yeah no you're right about that you know uh like you i think it's undemocratic and that's

00:06:20.140 why these mps when they are crossing they're not able to be reelected people in these writings are

00:06:26.460 upset and they have a good reason for that but in our parliamentary system uh that's something that

00:06:34.060 can happen uh it's uh it's it's the first time i believe that we have so many people who are

00:06:41.020 crossing the floor and the impact would be huge because that would be a difference between a

00:06:46.940 minority government and a majority government so that's why not only people in these writings who

00:06:55.420 may be upset but canadians also because we didn't vote for a majority liberal government

00:07:02.620 well yeah thanks hey max i wanted to i wanted to go back a little because you know prepping for

00:07:07.500 this show i i actually was very impressed and i didn't know uh and because i i hadn't gone back

00:07:13.980 and read your bio per se um you know you're a lawyer uh you work for national bank you got a

00:07:21.260 you got a great background you know tell and i know lately pierre pauliev and his crew have been

00:07:26.780 doing a lot to go down to the u.s uh redo his brand talk about his background you know and

00:07:34.300 pretty much a guy who came out of high school went to university and then went right into government

00:07:40.140 you did it the other way and i think that you know i was very impressed when i read your bio

00:07:44.300 talk to me a little bit because you know the first thing that jumped out at me when i read

00:07:47.660 your bio was why does this guy go into politics you know you had a good career you know you're

00:07:53.500 you're humming along you had very impressive you know you're in the c-suite of some major quebec

00:07:57.820 companies um you're doing very well a big law firm to start your career and i'm a cpa by trade i know

00:08:05.180 the deal um why do you you know and i know the family so talk a little bit about that because

00:08:11.340 you know for for our viewers i'd like to learn a little about you and understand because i think

00:08:15.980 that's super important to the story of what you're trying to do yes absolutely you're right about

00:08:22.460 that i'm not a career politician contrary to polyev polyev the first job that he had was in a

00:08:29.660 office of an mp and a couple of months after that he was elected and re-elected and you know he

00:08:37.100 didn't have any real job in the private sector for me that's the opposite uh you know i did work

00:08:43.980 in montreal uh in the private sector for 19 years before being in politics i had i have a

00:08:51.900 law degree and a business degree and i did work with the national bank a couple of years and after

00:08:59.260 that i worked with an insurance corporation called the standard life based in uk i was in charge of

00:09:06.780 the compliance of the corporation here in canada in line with all issues with our insurance

00:09:12.860 legislations across the country and in 2006 um i was working for the montreal economic institute

00:09:22.540 that's a think tank like the fraser institute in bc a free market think tank in quebec

00:09:30.140 and i was vp of that think tank for maybe about a year and a half or something like that and

00:09:36.940 And during that time, I had a meeting with Stephen Harper.

00:09:41.540 He was the leader of the opposition.

00:09:43.820 And he was looking for ideas for his electoral platform for the election of 2006.

00:09:51.040 And we had a dinner, me and the president of the institute with Stephen Harper at that time.

00:09:57.020 And I told him, you know, if you want to have some support in Quebec, you need to do two things.

00:10:03.260 The first one is, you know, lower taxes to Quebecers.

00:10:07.540 And if you do that, it will be good for every Canadian across the country because we are paying a lot of taxes here in Quebec with the provincial and federal taxes.

00:10:18.520 And second, I said it's very important for you to respect the Constitution because in Quebec we have two national sports.

00:10:26.500 First one, you know, hockey and the second one, referendum.

00:10:30.260 If you don't want to have a referendum, if you don't want to have a referendum, you need to respect the Constitution.

00:10:37.600 So he liked that. He delivered a speech in Quebec in October 2006.

00:10:43.000 And at the same time, he did ask me to run.

00:10:46.820 You know, that was not part of my priority.

00:10:49.820 I did good money in the private sector.

00:10:52.420 I was enjoying what I was doing.

00:10:54.340 But when Stephen Harper did ask me that, I said, no, why not?

00:11:01.480 And I decided to run in politics in 2006 for the first time.

00:11:07.840 And as you may know, I was elected.

00:11:10.020 I was industry minister, foreign affairs minister,

00:11:13.300 minister for small business and tourism.

00:11:15.960 And I did participate in the leadership contest in 2016, 2017.

00:11:21.800 and I didn't win with 49% of the vote.

00:11:26.620 And, you know, a couple of months later,

00:11:29.360 you know, the party was not, for me, a real conservative.

00:11:32.840 And I said at that time, the Conservative Party of Canada

00:11:36.260 is morally and intellectually corrupt

00:11:39.460 because they don't want to tackle the real issues.

00:11:42.400 And they were doing at that time,

00:11:44.380 and they're still doing politics by polling and focus group

00:11:47.660 instead of pushing the real conservative free market ideas.

00:11:52.700 And so I didn't win the leadership with my electoral platform

00:11:58.100 that was based on four principles, individual freedom,

00:12:02.500 personal responsibility, respect, and fairness.

00:12:06.040 And when I quit the conservative, we created the People's Party

00:12:10.760 with the same kind of electoral platform that I had during the leadership contest.

00:12:15.460 So for me, you know, that's why I was able to have an economic platform that was very credible because of my past in the private sector before as working in a bank and working in the financial sector.

00:12:33.940 So, yes, you're right. I'm not a career politician.

00:12:37.280 I was elected for 13 years and I didn't win my election as the leader of the People's Party in 2019.

00:12:45.460 And I'm fighting to be back in Parliament.

00:12:48.560 We'll see what will happen at the next general election.

00:12:53.160 You know, we have, and it's interesting, we have some by-elections coming up.

00:12:56.820 And, you know, we've done a couple of shows on by-elections.

00:12:59.140 And it's interesting how, you know, given the Iran war and tariffs and everything going on,

00:13:05.700 how these have been kind of put in the back burner.

00:13:08.000 They're very quiet about it.

00:13:09.300 What's your thoughts on the by-elections?

00:13:10.940 And quite frankly, you know, is that an opportunity for the PPC to get a seat here, to come through?

00:13:19.140 Because I want to talk about constitutional monarchies in a minute.

00:13:22.900 But to me, this is the first opportunity that's popped its head.

00:13:27.100 There's changes abroad. The environment's changing.

00:13:30.460 So give me your thoughts on the by-elections for a minute.

00:13:33.140 Yes, there's three by-elections.

00:13:35.240 And actually, we have a candidate in every riding for these by-election.

00:13:42.140 I was with them two weeks ago in Toronto and in Montreal, in Terrebonne.

00:13:47.780 It would be very, very difficult for us to win in Toronto in these two ridings.

00:13:53.720 As you know, that was two liberal ridings.

00:13:57.260 I believe that Carney will be able to keep these ridings.

00:14:00.480 The one that is the most interesting for us and for Canadians is the riding in Terrebonne near Montreal, because if the Liberals, you know, are able to win that riding, they will have a majority.

00:14:18.040 And so they are fighting very hard to be able to win that riding.

00:14:21.840 And for us, our candidates did very well in that riding at the last general election.

00:14:29.000 We have the same candidate in Terrebonne. And so I hope that, you know, we'll be maybe second or something like that, third, maybe, you know, that there's an opportunity for us. It may be difficult to win. That's the big problem with the first past the post.

00:14:47.820 You know, we don't have in Canada, as you know, proportionality in our electoral system.

00:14:54.820 And so that would be easier for us to win a seat if we had that system like in Europe.

00:15:02.820 But, you know, we're working hard to be ready for the next general election.

00:15:07.820 And I believe that will be our chance to have a couple of seats and candidates elected when that general election will be called.

00:15:16.820 In these by-elections, we are there, and our goal is to have visibility in the local newspaper and local radio station, and that's an opportunity for us to have more visibility because up to now, there's maybe, you know, 40% of the population who doesn't know that we exist as a political party.

00:15:41.660 So we are taking these by-elections. For us, it's a nice opportunity to be out there, to door knock like I did, to meet Canadians and to answer your questions about the preoccupation of Canadians, you know, in Toronto or in Montreal in these three ridings. That was the same preoccupation. The economy, the economy, the economy.

00:16:03.760 And so I believe that we are in a recession and it's very tough for young Canadians to have a job. The unemployment rate for youth is about 14 percent. With that mass immigration, it's difficult for Canadians to find a job.

00:16:23.080 It's difficult also on our health care system, on our infrastructure. 1.00

00:16:28.900 So we are out there. 1.00

00:16:31.480 And I can tell you that at the door, our ideas on having a moratorium on immigration

00:16:37.820 and deporting these criminals who are committing crimes, that's very popular.

00:16:44.220 And also, cutting the spending and balancing the budget to be able to cut tax to every Canadians,

00:16:51.120 That was also very popular. So our platform, when we are able to speak with Canadians, is well received. So that's why that was important for us to be up there. And as you know, at the next election, that would be the same platform. And that's why I like to say, and that's the reality, we are doing politics differently because we don't change platform at every election.

00:17:18.780 You know, what I said in 2019, when we created the party at our first election, it's the same thing today, the same platform with the same bold ideas.

00:17:29.400 And, you know, the People's Party will be there when Canadians are ready.

00:17:35.860 You know, we have the benefit, Max, of being armchair campaign managers.

00:17:40.820 And so over the last couple of days, we were having a discussion about our discussion with you.

00:17:45.740 And one of the things that came up consistently was that we see examples in other countries of where certain parties make a huge difference and many parties having a presence in the House or in their government makes a lot of change.

00:18:04.480 You know, how is your focus going to take you to that place?

00:18:08.340 Is it a matter of awareness?

00:18:10.320 Is it a matter of funding that you need?

00:18:12.180 What is it that kind of takes you over that hurdle?

00:18:17.080 No, you're absolutely right.

00:18:18.340 If you look at what's happening in Europe with the populist parties over there,

00:18:24.060 you know, Nigel Farage in the UK with Reform and the other party in the UK with Restore UK,

00:18:32.420 you have Marine Le Pen in France, you have in Germany.

00:18:36.440 All these populist parties, you know, they're successful and they're very popular.

00:18:42.960 So the challenge, and for us, there's maybe three challenges.

00:18:46.700 The first one is the fact that we don't have any coverage by the mainstream media.

00:18:55.180 It's like we don't exist.

00:18:57.080 So it's a little bit more difficult to have visibility in our country.

00:19:01.780 The second challenge that we have, you know, podcasts, you said in the beginning that Poliev did two podcasts in the US. I must say that he didn't do that during the election, because he didn't want to have a discussion about his policies. And like you said, his goal is to have a discussion about, you know, everything else than his policies. And he did well.

00:19:25.360 for me i believe that you know the goal for polyev in this podcast was to have a good coverage from

00:19:31.440 the from the mainstream media and he added so yes he tried to change his image with canadians

00:19:39.280 i don't think it would work it's all about ideas and that's the his platform is like the like the

00:19:45.360 one like the liberal one on the immigration taxation deficit so but that being said for me

00:19:54.320 uh doing some podcasts i did these podcasts during the last electoral campaign in the

00:20:00.800 in the us and that helped us a lot to have more visibility but the challenge that we have is you

00:20:08.240 know here in canada these conservative podcasts they receive advertising money from the conservative

00:20:16.400 party of canada and they are not giving us any visibility so that's a little bit more harder

00:20:23.280 and you know at every election we must be part of the national debates with other political parties

00:20:31.040 and at every time they are finding a new they are coming the debate commissions that is on the board

00:20:38.480 of that debate commissions is former conservative and liberal mps so they don't want us there and

00:20:45.200 they are always coming with new rules to be sure that we won't participate in these national debates

00:20:50.960 so the big challenge is our the visibility to have more visibility and second our electoral

00:20:57.920 system like i said it's first past the post and so what we must do to be able to be successful

00:21:05.600 i believe that we will need to have a candidate in every riding at the last election we didn't

00:21:11.920 have that at the former election uh for the first time we have we had less than 300 candidates

00:21:19.280 so this time uh will be ready we'll have a candidate in every writing so that means

00:21:25.200 these candidates will be uh approved and select a couple of months maybe years before the election

00:21:32.640 so they will have time to campaign in these in these writings first second uh for me we will

00:21:39.920 choose a couple of writings where we did a good score to put a little bit more money there and to

00:21:46.640 be able to be competitive in these ridings so i will have to choose a riding in canada and i will

00:21:57.680 look at the best riding for myself and run in a riding that i will have more chances to win

00:22:03.920 so we'll see and i believe that you know in three years or two years when we'll have an election

00:22:10.000 economically it will not be so good uh we will have the same problems and usually when you know

00:22:17.600 the economy is not good people will look maybe for an alternative and you know we are gaining

00:22:24.240 credibility by saying the same thing and being true to our platform and telling the truth with

00:22:31.280 uh based on facts and i believe you know that credibility will come and more people will

00:22:39.040 recognize that you know we are doing politics differently and we are serious about these issues

00:22:45.520 and so when everything is going on very you know it's very tough for everybody i believe that they

00:22:52.160 may be uh more uh more focused to look at another options and will be there so yes but it's

00:23:00.640 encouraging because that wind that is coming from europe will come to canada it's a question of time

00:23:07.120 and that's why you know we just need i said to our candidates be focused speak about our platform

00:23:13.680 educate canadians on our issues our time will come and we just need one or two candidates to

00:23:20.240 be in parliament and at that time we'll have that visibility and we will be able to start

00:23:26.080 that common sense revolution you know max yeah and i think that's uh very well said

00:23:34.000 you know in in the history con is mentioning constitutional monarchies and then you know

00:23:39.120 the fact that right now in the uk there's 11 parties with seats there's 18 in australia you

00:23:44.960 look at those countries and you think to yourself it does have to come so it's inevitable it does

00:23:50.240 make its way to canada and i think mike and i were talking before this show uh to your point when

00:23:56.560 times are tough that's when more parties tend to enter our parliamentary system so i think you're

00:24:02.400 bang on with that i think what's missing you know and we talk about it on every show like time and

00:24:08.080 time again it's an integrated plan for canada and what's missing is you know how are resources tied

00:24:14.800 to energy how are uh affordability of homes tied to resources and and energy how are they all

00:24:22.560 interconnected and what are our actual integrated goals and you know australia i don't know if i

00:24:28.000 just uh talked to a friend of mine from australia the other day and he's telling me about some of

00:24:32.160 of the things they did and decisions they made a decade ago that are actually coming

00:24:36.540 to bear and the fruits of the labor are happening now.

00:24:40.440 I think that's the big thing that I'm always coming up with on these shows as we talked

00:24:45.020 about politics and plans.

00:24:48.120 How do you, as your party, how do you see that and the integrated plan amongst themselves?

00:24:54.160 And the thing I like about talking to you and I was so excited when you came aboard,

00:24:58.780 I just did a show on the lithium, right, which, you know, lithium in Quebec is so, you know, you would know the resources in Quebec and becoming a resource economy with what's happening in the world right now.

00:25:11.880 I think that is one of the reasons we're also going to see more parties enter the system in Canada.

00:25:18.100 No, you're right. Canada must be a rich country.

00:25:22.640 And we are not right now because we don't exploit our natural resources.

00:25:26.200 And the link that I can do on that is, speaking about integration, you know, the equalization formula, that's the money that the federal government receives from rich provinces, and the federal government is giving that to poor provinces.

00:25:42.940 You know, that's having an impact on the development on our natural resources.

00:25:47.940 For example, here in Quebec, the Quebec government has a moratorium on the exploitation of shale gas.

00:25:56.940 And there's a lot of shale gas here in Quebec. But why Quebec has that moratorium?

00:26:04.940 It's because, you know, if they are listening first to the radical leftist environmentalist, but second, if they develop their natural resources like Shell gas, they will receive less money from the equalization formula, and they don't want that.

00:26:24.560 Quebec received last year $13 billion. That's half the money in the equalization formula. The money that the federal government is giving under that formula, it's $26 billion. Quebec received half of that.

00:26:43.400 So our platform is to cut that, to change that formula, to be less generous and cut that by at least half. So instead of 26, it would be 13. And that's the right incentive for provinces like Quebec, New Brunswick to develop their own natural resources.

00:27:04.760 No, and they're not doing that. They will be in a position to do it. So there's a link between equalization and the development of natural resources. But we are the only party that is speaking about that.

00:27:18.940 You know, the Conservatives are afraid to, they try to buy vote in Quebec by saying, and when I was with Harper, Harper changed the formula for the equalization money to be more generous to Quebec and New Brunswick to buy votes.

00:27:35.140 And Polyev won't touch that. So that's important. You need to have a federal government that will respect provincial jurisdictions that will, you know, repeal all these legislations against, you know, the natural resources in Alberta and being sure that, you know, we'll have a fair equalization formula that will give a right incentive to Quebec and New Brunswick to develop their own natural resources.

00:28:02.280 you know I think that the media will refer to your party as a fringe party once you get a seat

00:28:10.380 perhaps you will they'll drop that I don't I don't see it though it's not how it goes

00:28:15.540 but it seems to me that it's the moments like now where when you push in from the fringe you start

00:28:22.420 to really represent voices of people that matter in constituents and in different ridings for

00:28:29.420 For example, about industrialization of our own energy resources, getting back to business

00:28:37.720 in Quebec and not worrying so much about equalization and putting it more down as a merit-based

00:28:43.800 scenario.

00:28:46.060 Those are ideas that seem to only come from the fringe, to be honest with you.

00:28:50.040 Yeah.

00:28:51.040 No, absolutely.

00:28:52.040 uh you know when we started the party in 2018 and 2019 we were speaking about immigration and at

00:28:59.960 that time you know i remember you know we had built billboards across the country saying no to

00:29:05.480 mass immigration and you know that was a big scandal uh and actually the media and our you

00:29:12.680 know the conservative the opposition and they were saying you know oh the people's party is a racist

00:29:19.400 party and because we were speaking about immigration and our position at that time was to

00:29:24.760 have a maximum of 150 000 newcomers every year and i said if we don't do that we'll be in a big 1.00

00:29:34.680 we'll have a big problem economically socially and culturally and i was right and you know 0.97

00:29:42.280 and after that now that platform because of mass immigration is to have a moratorium on immigration

00:29:47.800 for a couple of years we need that to solve the problem that mass immigration is creating on

00:29:54.280 you know the housing crisis and the employment crisis so but now the mainstream media and my

00:30:02.360 opponents they are not able to say that we are racist at first that's not true but second you

00:30:08.680 know and they they have to speak about immigration because more than 60 percent of the population

00:30:15.880 agree with our position on moratorium on immigration so you know that's not a crazy idea

00:30:23.800 maybe that was viewed as a crazy idea in 2018 2019 but i think we had the right vision at that time

00:30:32.040 for the country but because of our proposal was not adopted we had that immigration crisis and

00:30:38.920 now we need to solve that so i remember that polyev when he was speaking about that was speaking only

00:30:45.640 about you know building new houses for newcomers and he was not saying that we have a problem with

00:30:53.160 too uh many migrants that are coming to our country now he's moving a little bit on on that

00:31:01.320 little bit speaking a little bit more about it so i'm proud that we were able to move the

00:31:07.480 overton window on immigration but we need to do that on all these subjects that are so important

00:31:14.040 for the future of our country now you know we are in a constitutional crisis in alberta and in quebec

00:31:21.480 the next provincial election in quebec will be in october of this year and the young charismatic

00:31:27.960 leader of the pq the independentist political party is saying to quebecers if you vote for me

00:31:35.720 you vote for a referendum on the separation so and same thing in alberta with that referendum

00:31:43.400 that may come this fall why why are we having these uh constitutional crisis is because the

00:31:52.040 conservative and the liberals don't want to address the big issues for alberta and quebec

00:31:57.160 and one of the biggest issue is that equalization money the fact that they cannot exploit their

00:32:02.440 natural resources the fact that polyev is for you know the crazy uh climate change policies yes he

00:32:09.960 said that he won't impose a new tax and he won't impose uh but he will impose new regulation because

00:32:16.200 he still believes that time of change is a big a big problem in canada but it is not so these

00:32:23.000 establishment political parties are not speaking about what canadians want and that's why we have

00:32:29.880 that we will have that constitutional crisis so we need to fix that and we are the only party

00:32:37.080 that is having the courage to speak about it. And I believe that more people will realize that.

00:32:42.600 So that's why I'm pretty optimistic for the future of our party. And because,

00:32:48.520 like I said at the last election, we are the last chance for this country.

00:32:53.240 If our platform is not adopted, I don't see a bright future for Canada.

00:32:59.960 You know, let's talk about your party for a minute and the team, because, you know,

00:33:04.200 as we talk about liberals and conservatives so much we tend to focus on two individuals you know

00:33:09.240 this has become the carny poly of parties and we talk about them you know and i think there's room

00:33:15.320 also for uh another party so your party or uh to come forward but a team of people so like to me

00:33:23.240 it's in you you know you've worked in in high level companies uh max you've worked with big

00:33:28.360 teams i'm sure how do you create a team around you that has the skill sets that canadians can look to

00:33:34.440 and say okay they understand resources they understand safety in canada uh you know national

00:33:42.040 and international affairs something that i think we've lacked a little in the last decade as far as

00:33:47.800 having team members and the controlling majority parties that really are able to move the ball and

00:33:53.480 you know i know you grew up in a family a political family you know some of the things you probably

00:33:58.120 learned going through how do you create those right you know your dad being an ambassador to

00:34:02.360 haiti and all the things you saw how do you create that and how do you project that to canadians so

00:34:07.800 they know your team's qualities i think you know talk a little bit that because i think that's an

00:34:12.600 important step now because i know myself as i look and as i'm as i'm spending more time and the

00:34:17.960 issues are becoming more critical for canada i not only look at the leaders now i spend some time and

00:34:22.920 I go through the parties and say, okay, who's going to be coming into cabinet? What are their

00:34:28.120 backgrounds? How will they specialize? Yes, that's a great question. First,

00:34:33.880 we don't have star candidates. We have ordinary Canadians, I may say extraordinary Canadians,

00:34:43.720 who are willing to be with us and fight for what they believe. And actually, you know,

00:34:48.840 we had candidates who started with us at the first election in 2019 and they were with us for every

00:34:55.480 election our candidates are you know mom and dad uh that they are working uh you know nine to five

00:35:03.000 and during their past time they are the door knocking during the weekend uh you know we have

00:35:09.000 a professor we have uh truck drivers uh and actually you know i like to say you know that

00:35:17.160 anecdote. At every election, journalists are coming and they're asking questions to the

00:35:24.200 political parties. How many Black people do you have as candidates? How many Jewish candidates

00:35:31.160 do you have? And it's always the same. And so for us, when they call, we always say we don't know 1.00

00:35:38.200 because we don't know, we don't ask. And I remember last time when the journalists at the last

00:35:43.320 election said that mr bernie we will write our piece about that the diversity of candidates in

00:35:49.560 other party so i want you to be part of that i want your party to be bought a part of that but

00:35:55.480 we don't have any data from your party i said yes because it's not important for us we don't

00:36:01.080 collect this data and you know we have people that are coming and it's not important the most

00:36:06.520 important it's not the color of your skin or or your religious is do you believe in these ideas

00:36:13.080 do you believe in canadians do you believe in a smarter government in ottawa that will give

00:36:18.120 more freedom to canadians and so our candidates are some of them are very well known in their

00:36:24.840 writings some of them did run at the local uh you know with the local city uh and there some of them

00:36:35.320 were elected also uh but they're ready and our challenge is to be sure that during the next

00:36:41.560 election we will have people around that i'll be able to say okay you have experience in finance you

00:36:48.680 have experience in uh other things that you know it can be useful and build a kind of a shadow

00:36:55.480 cabinet and to be ready for the next election that's something that we are thinking to do

00:37:02.040 but first we need to have all our candidates across the country but i'm proud that there you

00:37:06.840 know canadians that are coming and saying enough is enough we need that peaceful revolution and

00:37:14.120 i'm ready to fight for it and for me that's that's great that we have people who are ready to come

00:37:20.360 because as a small political party look at the for example the christian heritage party or the

00:37:27.240 libertarian party uh we are the biggest party in the the small in it with if you compare with these

00:37:34.840 small political parties. The problem with, for example, the Christian heritage is they're not

00:37:41.720 able to have a candidate in every riding. Maybe they have 30 candidates, something like that.

00:37:47.320 So for us, we are able to attract good people all across the country. And that's why we would be

00:37:53.880 able to build a better future. We were talking about how this is your moment, actually, Max.

00:38:00.600 I mean, if if ever there was, this is it.

00:38:06.280 I believe our time will come.

00:38:08.000 You know, like I said in the beginning,

00:38:11.840 what is very important in politics is credibility.

00:38:16.040 And we are building on that.

00:38:17.960 You can find videos of me or of our candidates

00:38:21.680 saying the same thing 10, 15 years ago.

00:38:25.080 And so people can look at us and say, no, they're serious about these issues.

00:38:30.240 They believe in that. They know the solution for our country.

00:38:34.280 So that is giving us credibility and you cannot buy that as a politician.

00:38:40.660 So I hope and I believe like you that our time will come.

00:38:44.160 Yes. And we'll be ready.

00:38:46.760 Yeah, it's it's very interesting that it's you've generated a lot of discussion here at TPL over the last couple of days because we're looking at how the rest of the world is handling it.

00:38:58.000 And I have to hand it to Paul. He's like, look at this. Look what's going on in Australia. Look what's going on in England, in the UK, across the UK.

00:39:05.640 There are these parties that, for example, if you had an ethnicity or an immigrant group, you could create a party that got a seat, that made a difference, that represented that group.

00:39:20.280 And we're seeing that in different countries around the world.

00:39:24.560 So, you know, you know, there's Canadians out there that think, OK, this could be the moment where we start to see new parties, which I personally feel we desperately need.

00:39:34.260 Oh, of course. Of course. And the demographic changing demographics.

00:39:37.200 And I think Max hit on it a couple of times.

00:39:40.080 You know, the changing demographics and what might not have been the best immigration party policy has actually caused a number of things to happen.

00:39:48.960 and that's one of the things that europe saw earlier than us of course being an older country

00:39:53.680 much older countries yeah and and it's coming to bear so you know it the way people vote the

00:39:59.440 way people vote in factions are changing now and i think our demographic change and also favor new

00:40:06.880 parties i think so too and also i may add also younger people are not you know taking their news

00:40:13.920 with the mainstream media radio station or tv station they're taking the news with you guys

00:40:20.960 with people on on social media and so for us that's an opportunity like i said in the beginning

00:40:27.920 we don't have any visibility with the mainstream media but i remember i had a discussion with

00:40:34.880 jordan peterson a couple of years ago and i told him you know mr peterson it's very hard for us to

00:40:42.000 have visibility in the mainstream media do you have any ideas what we can do and he looked at

00:40:47.440 me and he said forget it you know be on social media be active do some videos be out there with

00:40:53.520 your ideas you will grow your party will be able to grow and that's what we are doing and it's it's

00:41:00.400 great because young people now are on social media tick tock instagram facebook x so we uh we are there

00:41:09.520 also. And I believe that, you know, it's the influence of the mainstream media is not the same

00:41:16.720 that it that it may be. If you compare that with 10 or 15 years ago, they are less and less

00:41:22.880 influence and they are surviving because of the money coming from the federal government to them.

00:41:31.280 Yeah, we are delighted that they didn't keep up with this media forum because we love to have

00:41:35.920 discussions like this we love to have an open discussion that doesn't have a leading edge of

00:41:41.200 10 questions i promise you this had your your history and your bio on it i don't think i looked

00:41:46.080 at it once we'd rather have a discussion i think that non-traditional media is giving

00:41:51.040 more opportunity for that i wonder if um i wonder if the other two major parties in our country will

00:41:57.360 embrace it a little more they don't seem to but on that note if you if you wouldn't mind helping me

00:42:02.000 out just for a second, a crew of us are headed off to the Liberal Convention in your neighborhood.

00:42:07.760 So my thought was, if there was one question you could ask a Liberal supporter in this country,

00:42:12.800 what would that question be? To Carney and the Liberals? Yeah. Yeah. But I will ask a question,

00:42:21.200 you know, what are you doing for the sovereignty of our country? Because we are losing our

00:42:31.120 sovereignty with mass immigration but also the constitutional crisis that is happening in our 0.99

00:42:37.600 country they don't speak about that nobody has a question about the constitutional crisis that is

00:42:42.400 happening in alberta right now and in quebec in couple of months uh you know which policies carney

00:42:50.240 must do to be able to uh preserve our country united and three and there's a chance that this

00:42:58.000 country will disappear if alberta vote yes or if quebec vote yes i i don't know what would happen

00:43:05.520 with our country so question about you know the future of canada the sovereignty of our country

00:43:11.760 uh and the fight for keeping our country and being sure that alberta will be happy in here in canada

00:43:19.120 as you know carney signed an agreement with uh premier smith uh nothing is happening there uh

00:43:27.200 you know they were supposed to have more economic and and resources development and that's not

00:43:34.240 happening and i believe that if they don't have any solution in the near future more people will

00:43:40.400 vote on the yes side so that may be and the mainstream media are not asking questions like

00:43:45.520 that they are taking for granted that the canada that we know will stay like that and won't change

00:43:51.840 in the next couple of years but yes it may change for not the better if we are losing alberta or

00:43:58.480 quebec maxime bernier it has been a pleasure chatting with you uh let's stay in touch between

00:44:06.080 now and the next general election uh on just about any topic you want to talk about uh it's

00:44:11.680 been delightful thanks so much thank you i was very yeah thank you i was very pleased thank you

00:44:16.480 guys and yes let's stay in touch so big success for you and have a nice trip in montreal thanks

00:44:23.040 so much see you soon bye-bye patriotic means looking up for each other and fixing things

00:44:36.080 together true patriotism is being in the country you love surrounded by people you love and great

00:44:42.320 weather being a patriot is being a part of your community and caring for it it doesn't matter who

00:44:46.480 you are or where you're from patriotism is the one thing we all share it's okay to be critical

00:44:52.560 of government and still be a patriot it's gratitude to your country of course i'm a patriot

00:44:58.000 I'm Canadian. It's my home.

00:45:00.000 Well, actually, true patriot love is the mission.

True Patriot Love - April 10, 2026

Is Canada Entering a Constitutional Crisis？ ft. Maxime Bernier

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