Is Rural Canada’s Crime Crisis Being Ignored? [Weekly Crime Update]
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Once upon a time, living in a small town in canada guaranteed you a virtually crime-free lifestyle. There was almost no crime in suburban areas, especially in the outer suburbs, bedroom communities and small towns. But recently stats canada had a shocking number this is actually information from Stats Canada saying that rural residents face violent crime rates nearly 50 percent higher than those in major cities. Upending the myth of that idyllic small town that picturesque postcard canadian lifestyle, we ll talk more about the change in the way crime is affecting everyone in Canada.
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if we're going to see crime rates go up in the rural communities what are the root causes what
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are the stats what it why exactly is happening is it is it you know domestic abuse is it drugs is
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it what what is it and what's happening is it gun violence is it so those are the things that we
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should be breaking down and those are the things that we should be trying to address quicker
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once upon a time living in a small town in canada figure pretty much guaranteed you a virtually
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crime-free lifestyle there was almost no crime in suburban areas especially in the outer suburbs
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bedroom communities and small towns but recently stats canada had a shocking number this is
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actually information from stats canada saying that rural residents face violent crime rates
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nearly 50 percent higher than those in major cities upending the myth of that idyllic small
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town that picturesque postcard canadian lifestyle we'll talk more about the change in the way crime
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is affecting everyone in canada as always told to be joined by paul macucci paul how are you good
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jim how are you doing yeah you know what it's an interesting stat i read it too and and uh
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if you look at small towns and you look at the resources they have for law enforcement
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you start to understand and as our law enforcement just like you consider all of our trades right now
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you know whether we talk about plumbers electricians you know you have to look at law
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enforcement and as law enforcement gets older you know that skill is eroding too so as our
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as our canadian society um is starting to age and this is all of us unfortunately that's life
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you know we're having uh rcmp's uh members retiring we're having local police officers
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retiring while having people deciding that it's time to quit and with everything going on right
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now whether it be overrun jails overrun um crime spree in different areas listen they probably are
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thinking this is the right time to go and and you and i talked about it before the show there was a
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time i guess even in law enforcement that when you went to work you weren't as you were always
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concerned about your safety but there was an unwritten rule that parts of the communities
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different communities didn't see a lot of crime that's right right and now you know the people
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that are farming the people that are moving to the farms the people we're seeing getting involved in
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rural communities are way different than they were but it was unheard of and and to the point now
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there's also the whole vibe that um you know reducing the police cut the police we don't need
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police so for a lot of young people looking at a career as a first responder they're looking at
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paramedic they're looking at firefighter they're looking at different thing because to be a
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firefighter to be a paramedic is still well respected right by people of all stripes in
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the community whereas being a police officer it's not easy and it's not just the physical
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threat and strain but the mental strain that they go through a lot of them i see why they get out
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and go to private security or different ways of life because you can only take so much well and
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and the danger right i think i think for the most part um in rural communities being a police
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officer or police enforcement quite frankly has a lot of other issues right so yes a lot of times
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when you arrive on that farm that uh perpetrator that criminal whatever they have a high-powered
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weapon they're familiar with you know guns quite frankly they they have scopes they're you know
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they're they know how to shoot a weapon with a lot of open space between the the you know the
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alleged and the police officer exactly you're approaching you're approaching from a mile or
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two off so they can see you coming and then you have to get out of your car you have to approach
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the house and that that's where we hear these horror stories of these people so you know as
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they get older and they decide they want to retire now you have this void and that void quite frankly
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on top of that you know criminals that are moving uh contraband guns everything in the rural areas
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are more sophisticated so they're more sophisticated as far as you know tracking
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weaponry so here we are you know is it any surprise that we're seeing an increase in crime
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in rural communities i don't think so once upon a time if a lot of us who maybe were the the child
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an immigrant you lived in a maybe a small apartment in the inner city of a big city in canada
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um your family need a little money you move to maybe a house and eventually you move to
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one of those idyllic suburban communities like a vaughn ontario yes like a surrey bc out of
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downtown vancouver all across the country and that was thought of safe schools safe neighborhoods
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maybe a few speeding tickets maybe a drunk driving but no major crime to worry about
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and that has changed in such a huge way in the last 10 years that we're seeing these what we
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thought was the ultimate safe community to raise their family there's all these gun violence crimes
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being taking place on a regular basis paul well you know it's interesting i went i just got back
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and i i mentioned a little bit before the show to you i actually just got back from a wedding in
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windsor you know i was involved in the farming community years ago down in that area and uh
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nice part of the province nice part of the country it was you know right over the ambassador bridge
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you know and and i enjoyed it quite frankly had a very uh interesting experience learned a lot
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about something i didn't know and that was farming at the time and you know it was nothing to go to
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sleep at night and not lock your doors he's still in the truck well i was shocked so after you know
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when uh got up in the morning made my way up boulette street to go to the the wedding and i
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was just shocked that the community has changed that much the boarded up buildings the homeless
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people on the street the the basically apartments were just dilapidated and i was like wow this is
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crazy how this this community has changed and you know i was there in a time when a million
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americans used to come over because of the drinking age it has a party city and the exchange
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and the exchange and it was very vibrant now it was kind of an eroded rundown city which quite
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frankly you know has lots of these rural issues going on and i was like oh this is yeah it was
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funny because you know it was there and i was with an old friend and i was enjoying and you know i was
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happy for him and his daughter and everything else but when i was leaving i was thinking to myself
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is this the right place for him to retire now like is this a really a nice place you know and
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i'm not i'm not picking on windsor but i'm i'm just saying this is kind of one of those uh case
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studies that we're seeing across the nation where to your point you know as people slow down they
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would go to their retirement community in a smaller town well if smaller towns are going
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to see higher crime rates you know where do where do we you know our elderly go to kind of slow down
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retire have a nice segue you know into uh the latter years of their life i think about mike
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and brady on their cross canada trip and some of the communities they're going through through
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northern ontario across the prairies and for a lot of years a lot of those communities were
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like it's a good place raise a family have a career have a job the big big crime the big issues
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are in vancouver montreal toronto the big city but not there but now you have fentanyl and crime
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and gangs and violence that has spread to parts of the country that didn't exist before and you
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have a great it's a great point paul where do you go in this country now that you think truly is safe
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so i'm running a triathlon this is a crazy story i'm running a triathlon uh years ago this is a
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few years ago and i'm training so i'm doing my bike training in the morning yeah of course at
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four in the morning you know way out about uh 40 minutes outside of toronto because the rolling
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hills you know towards highway six and all that and i go and i do like 50 to 100 kilometers in
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morning yeah i was doing a lot of biking because getting ready and i'm biking along i got my head
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down i'm on my last leg because i had to go to work after i'm in my last leg to finish off i'm
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trying to paling hard i got my head down i'm going downhill and i'm flying down i'm feeling really
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good i'm about to finish all of a sudden i look up and it's the drug enforcement guys in the middle
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of the road pulling me off my bike into the ditch and so i'm like holy cow like you know and they're
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they're like you know hands up and they're pulling me off and then i'm actually being brought down
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the ditch they're about to do a raid on a farm adjacent to where i'm right right so i got my bike
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i'm all sweaty i'm laying in the weeds right wow one of them because he's he's left behind to
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protect me now because you know they yeah yeah they pulled a civilian out and they don't want
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him to be harmed right and so he's like you know i can't talk i gotta so i had to i had to lay there
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for like 40 minutes until they had actually made the race like something in the movies paul it was
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it felt like it i was like wow you know this is my favorite riding spot but nowadays what was not
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the norm is actually the norm because when you're driving along and you're looking at that farm and
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what people are storing on that farm it's not crops anymore right and so quite frankly you
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know there's a lot of uh as people are moving things across the nation now things that we
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never thought about before and and so now that's what we're incurring but but you know unfortunately
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that's that's starting to change the composition of these cities and also the crime rates so
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you know as we always do jim you know now's the time that we need to start talking about
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how to mitigate that so i have a serious conversation as a nation as a nation of if
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we're going to see crime rates go up in the rural communities what are the root causes what are the
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stats what it why exactly is happening is it is it you know domestic abuse is it drugs is it what
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what is it and what's happening is it gun violence is it so those are the things that we should be
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breaking down and those are the things that we should be trying to address quicker