True Patriot Love - February 09, 2026


Legault Steps Down： Quebec’s Breaking Point？


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29 minutes

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184.99666

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5,524

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00:00:00.000 falling in the polls and facing pressure on all sides one of the giants of canadian politics the
00:00:09.920 premier quebec press all ago announcing he is stepping down and will not be part of the re-election
00:00:14.760 in the next provincial election and it's another change in quebec government that ties into along
00:00:20.600 with paul micucci another show we had about problems with health care and doctors and nurses
00:00:25.160 and quebec is going through a big change right now paul how you doing good good jim and uh
00:00:29.920 yeah huge change i saw him at the premier's meeting the other day um so he's staying on a little
00:00:35.800 longer until they transition and find a new leader i found something out new you lived in in i did
00:00:42.020 montreal yeah i did i lived in montreal in the early 90s and i was there uh when robert bourassa was
00:00:48.940 premier and uh building up to the uh referendum of 1995 and quebec politics um it's very strong the
00:00:58.900 one thing about quebec and politics the unions are incredibly strong where unions and other
00:01:04.180 jurisdictions in the country maybe don't have the same clout and power they used to they have
00:01:09.240 incredible clout and power in quebec and as a premier as a politician to cross them to mess with
00:01:15.560 them to fight with them yes to me it's political suicide well it turned out to be so yeah it turned
00:01:22.320 out to be well you know it's interesting because you know from a business perspective because i look at
00:01:26.660 i look at um uh lago as a interesting kind of test case and political leadership because he was he was
00:01:35.460 the co-founder of air transit he was a very successful airline very successful guy lifted what is very
00:01:41.960 tough industry to get into in canada lifted it off got it underway and and made it uh a success
00:01:48.960 ran this as the ceo uh until 1997 um and then hopped into politics right a tough transition because
00:01:56.980 you know we're seeing it we talk about it also for our prime minister right now to go from uh the private
00:02:03.300 sector into you know government public sector is hard because you're thinking your processes are
00:02:09.040 much different and at least you know our prime minister uh spent some time in government uh you know
00:02:14.800 working with uh you know the banks so that that was a plus but he went straight into government
00:02:21.940 um with uh pq i think it was at the beginning and then and then the caq party and then he jumped over
00:02:29.640 into the caq and started with uh soros the billionaire uh the telesystems or whatever he's the backer had
00:02:37.040 lots of money decided to start a new party got let go in and play and really jettisoned into a huge
00:02:44.100 success uh just pre-covid so he kind of took off and off he went and to tell you the truth they were
00:02:51.940 i was looking at the numbers because i'm a numbers guy and i was kind of studying the numbers they're
00:02:56.160 pre-covid his revenue growth his uh you know he wasn't having a lot of budget his budget deficits were
00:03:04.800 very low um if any and the quebec economy was really strong at the time it was booming going
00:03:10.480 into covet right then he hit covet like the rest of us and it did just seem like it sank and never came
00:03:16.640 back quite frankly it actually came out of covet and a huge imbalance like they came out of covet
00:03:22.960 and the deficits i think the deficit i was looking at just coming into the show the 2025 deficit was like
00:03:30.000 13.5 billion dollars so he just he just kept sinking costs got out of whack and and just
00:03:39.040 couldn't get it back in play i had a friend who was doing volunteer work who was a retired police
00:03:44.560 officer in the montreal area and she was telling me that basically heard a group of people they were
00:03:51.120 driving supplies around to senior homes during the pandemic and it was almost the infrastructure for
00:03:57.200 senior care for health care was exposed during the pandemic and i mean there's i don't care what
00:04:02.880 language you speak and what your background there's basic foundational things you need from your
00:04:08.640 government education healthcare infrastructure that's almost the big three right i want proper
00:04:14.720 roads to get to where i need to go in transit if i'm sick i want to have someone to take care of me
00:04:20.480 and i want my kids to go to a good school yeah and when there are cracks in that foundation
00:04:25.600 that's to me will lead to the downfall of any politician it's true except doug ford in ontario
00:04:31.600 but that's another story no it's true and you know he um when he took over he he told everyone
00:04:38.400 his philosophy so i was looking at that because i remember those press conferences where he said
00:04:42.560 uh quebec was slowly losing linguistic and cultural leverage institutes were lagging behind reality
00:04:49.520 soft governance had failed to stop erosion uh increment incrementism wasn't enough and if you
00:04:57.600 don't act decisively now you will lose the option later so that was kind of his mantra through his
00:05:04.320 governance and and you know he did uh he did uh govern with a fairly iron hand oh yeah yeah what is it
00:05:14.320 and very strong what they call the french language police right now i know from working in a radio
00:05:18.960 station there in the early 90s you would have francophone listeners i worked at an english radio
00:05:24.320 station and the only english they could say would be play genesis play the rolling stones and everything
00:05:31.280 else would be in french and you say oh thank you missy and whether the quebec politicians and the
00:05:38.640 francophone french police like it or not you can't deny the influence of english rap english hip-hop
00:05:45.680 english music rock music or english culture in movies no matter what language and i know that's
00:05:51.600 a thing where they demand french signs and it's always french first which is fine they're trying
00:05:56.800 to preserve the french culture right but they can't stop a young person from watching you know a marvel
00:06:03.760 movie in english or listening to you know whatever favorite music whether it's taylor swift whether they
00:06:09.920 speak english or not they're still going to listen to it right right well and and you know again i
00:06:15.440 think that's where he was going and quite frankly it didn't work out but you know he ran into a number
00:06:21.680 of of let's talk coming out of coven uh uh bad scandals let's call them too yes and i did the insurance
00:06:29.920 the insurance so you know that one basically was about a billion uh dollar cost overrun the auditor general
00:06:37.760 uh wrote a whole report scathing report on it and he basically came out and said listen i lost control
00:06:43.520 over the overruns um didn't look good and then northvolt happened right after covid right the electric
00:06:49.840 battery the swedish company that came and gone and that was about 280 million dollars that they had
00:06:56.240 loaned to the company to get the electric company cars going and never happened right and for quebecois
00:07:04.160 citizens quebec citizens who pay steep tax they're among the most heavily taxed people in the country
00:07:09.840 to be that slap in the face they're not going to forgive them yeah i mean like it's fine i'm paying
00:07:15.920 all this tax but to to piss away a quarter billion dollars that's not going to fly right and then i guess
00:07:23.200 jim you know in the midst of that the show that you and i did here they are no health care no so the
00:07:29.760 health care wrote it in and you know it's a slippery slope so as he's putting all these very tough
00:07:36.000 mandates into place um the public is not able to see a doctor can't find uh waiting for hours in waiting
00:07:45.040 rooms um doctors leaving other to other provinces well as soon as yeah as soon as he kind of put down
00:07:50.560 the hammer and said which you know you and i had the a few shows about it i wasn't totally against
00:07:57.120 everything he was doing there so i want to i want to be you know pretty clear his his health minister
00:08:02.240 at the time which he actually then resigned um you know and and basically discussed because
00:08:09.280 he had to concede with the doctors to reach a resolution after they went sort of too heavy-handed
00:08:15.360 um but you know i wasn't against everything they were doing you know the metrics they were putting in
00:08:19.920 the place that they're trying to get the doctors to build differently i i thought there were some good
00:08:24.800 pieces inside of that right which i think sometimes again um coming from the private sector
00:08:32.800 right you know he's used to having his way he goes in you know him and his health minister we're going
00:08:38.480 to do this you're going to do that you know very authoritative right which is how probably he ran air
00:08:44.000 transat with his management team he would have had to right when it came to maintenance pilots and
00:08:49.520 booking and everything to make it profitable yeah of course and you know a high a high cap spend to
00:08:55.200 to an airline is a tough you know and your thin margin and you have to run it very efficiently to
00:09:01.360 make money and you have to be very good at it so you know probably wasn't like i said a tough
00:09:06.400 disciplined business person coming into politics that was what he ran on so it's interesting and i you
00:09:11.760 know i look at a little bit i'm going to go sideways here because i look at um the calgary
00:09:20.160 conservative convention i just came from last week yeah and you know one of the things we talked about
00:09:25.440 is the the delegates needed to give the party a direction coming out of the of the convention well
00:09:35.600 you know i don't think that happened um but you know and i think every leader does need as they go
00:09:42.480 into office some direction whether it be from the people who vote him in whether his delegation his
00:09:48.400 you know their caucus they do need direction and support so i think he started off i think he started
00:09:54.560 off very strong because the province was wavering you know it needed a heavier hand to come in and run
00:10:00.400 some programs it has you know as utah and i talked about earlier it has horrific infrastructure issues
00:10:06.720 whether it be bridges roads it's it's still constant in quebec it's never ending well the mayor this
00:10:12.720 morning right he said he was in the news you know our uh our potholes are catastrophic the mayor of
00:10:19.120 montreal yeah now for the mayor of montreal to say that that must be a bad pothole yeah well you know
00:10:25.280 they're four feet deep so you know he was he was just saying these are like i don't know what to do
00:10:30.800 now and we're we're only in february yeah and with the freeze and thaws it's only going to get worse
00:10:36.960 so in a big picture look at francois lagos legacy had covet not hit with his business private
00:10:45.680 management style and the sex they had it probably continues on and we're not having this conversation
00:10:52.800 but unfortunately he tried to still run it like he did pre-covered and there's and sometimes
00:10:59.120 a politician has to pivot and change their ways change their management style to survive and we've
00:11:04.880 seen some premiers do that over the years to to save their skin to keep going yeah yeah he just didn't
00:11:11.120 right and his costs you know he had as i mentioned he had the a couple scandals the north vault
00:11:18.160 um the doctors and then deficit spending he just you know as he tried to spend more money on health
00:11:23.760 care tried to spend more money on infrastructure he just wasn't eclipsing his challenges and quite
00:11:29.920 frankly his revenues had grown significantly they they had taxed as you mentioned yeah they're heavily
00:11:35.120 taxed they when he got one thing he did do when he got in power he did increase the taxes significantly
00:11:41.360 and he said to everyone you know you're behind me i'm going to get the infrastructure working again
00:11:46.320 you're going to pay more and i think people were patient for a while now what hurt him i it's
00:11:50.800 interesting you're talking about it what hurt him was and quite frankly we went into covid right
00:11:58.240 and people got softer you know they got they were more funded more government money and
00:12:04.720 disturbed and all that exactly yeah so they they softened up a little on him where they were behind
00:12:10.000 him before they came out of covid you know he couldn't do much with revenues but he had all these huge
00:12:15.520 cost bases they would just keep climbing and climbing and climbing so you know interesting
00:12:21.600 the doctors thing i i don't know what to say about that because quite frankly he inherited it
00:12:28.000 and it just got worse and worse and how he was going to find his way out of it uh you know but that
00:12:34.960 is to me paul that's the essence of a politician is finding a way to convince someone who doesn't like
00:12:41.440 you to do what you need to do to convince someone who doesn't agree with you that we're going to
00:12:46.640 quote unquote work together and you think you've wanted a little battle i think i want a little
00:12:51.440 battle and we go forward yeah but to to put your head down like a battering ram like i'm the boss
00:12:57.600 this is how we're going to do it it rarely works and especially in a province like quebec with they
00:13:03.520 have really strong passionate feelings about labor and unions and protecting the people and the workers
00:13:09.520 and this is where the case where some politicians whether you like them or not have a knack of
00:13:14.560 working with the people don't like them so things keep going and they not only do they survive yeah but
00:13:20.320 their jurist their jurisdictions are yeah no i agree with you so the interesting thing so he so this is
00:13:27.120 you know uh where we are today with him leaving and the interesting thing in the province and this is
00:13:33.280 what's scaring a lot of people now what's next i i don't know whoever is the next premier it's they're
00:13:42.160 going to be a very very difficult task yeah with the with the crumbling infrastructure with the issues
00:13:49.040 in health care and education they're the quebec politicians are fighting to preserve the french language
00:13:55.760 when quite frankly a lot of the population are coming in like all other provinces through immigration
00:14:02.000 that's how they're building and it's it's it's hard it's a it's a real challenge in quebec and it's
00:14:08.400 they're hoping the federal government have talked about the high-speed rail from ottawa to quebec
00:14:12.880 city yeah that would help a lot but realistically how many years are we talking about whoever is the
00:14:18.480 next premier still not might be premier when that thing starts running well and then now you have
00:14:24.000 separatism discussions absolutely on top of it so now now you're back you know uh again we're in
00:14:30.320 alberta last week but part of the discussion in alberta was about quebec again how could it not be
00:14:36.640 i mean they've had multiple referendums in their history alberta's talking about it and came back
00:14:42.720 they've been down this road before but quebec with the net net transfer payments being so negative
00:14:48.800 what would be the rationale often it's been my belief the rationale when they talk about this
00:14:55.680 after the boat what happens they get something right they get something from the federal government
00:15:02.160 well thank god you're not leaving canada let's work out a deal you get this and you get that and
00:15:07.360 we'll fix this and there's more money into the provincial conference so they end up making out
00:15:11.520 financially yeah it could be you know and and you know that was the pipeline analysis last week right
00:15:17.920 if they do this then basically they'll soften on pipelines the pipelines that come through you know
00:15:22.800 we'll be back in business in alberta you know what we did a show though and i actually left the show
00:15:27.840 i went in thinking that i left the show i wasn't so convinced so it's interesting you know quebec is
00:15:34.560 if you look at what what is produced the most in quebec well right now it's the bombardier airplanes i
00:15:40.240 think isn't it yeah well one of the things so steel you know quite frankly it's dairy dairy you know
00:15:46.480 there are some big items in canada that are produced there right we have some big uh like you said
00:15:52.160 agricultural and manufacturing that goes on in in quebec so we would have to figure out a new party
00:15:59.120 comes in if they did ever want to separate that would leave a huge void well especially when mark
00:16:05.840 carne and the federal government are this close to signing a deal with saab to build hundreds of
00:16:11.440 planes of the barber day facility in in suburban montreal that's that's the future of the canadian
00:16:18.080 military a lot of the canadian canadian defense spending is to build those planes and those
00:16:23.280 aircraft facilities in these greater montreal area yeah that would be a huge issue oh it is well and
00:16:29.760 you know trump as we saw the other day trump just some bombardier just came out and said basically you
00:16:36.320 know if you're not gonna if you're not gonna let the golf stream be sold in canada quite frankly i'm
00:16:41.920 gonna put a tariff on now i looked that up the and he talked about decertifying the plane the only
00:16:48.640 authority in america that has the right to decertify a plane is the faa oh the president does not i confirm
00:16:57.120 that the last time they they actually decertified any aircraft was a helicopter in the early 80s because
00:17:04.160 they had too many crashes that could not be explained they decertified it they suspended the 737
00:17:11.600 max because of the accidents with the saying if you don't fix this we'll decertify it they fix the
00:17:17.920 problems and at the same time the u.s army has a contract they just signed to buy 11 global 6500
00:17:26.720 from barbordier for their army surveillance planes oh so i don't know where trump came up with that
00:17:34.080 the u.s army just bought 11 because they have this high-tech surveillance radar and sophisticated
00:17:41.120 software they're going to put in those quebec-made planes to survey the battlefield of the future
00:17:47.680 and they are the top selling private jet in the world they have a sterling safety record okay and
00:17:54.880 only the faa can decertify a plane this is where trump is office meds because he cannot be sort of he
00:18:01.840 can you could slap a tariff but he cannot decertify any plane he the president does not have that right in
00:18:07.280 america right well i think the tariffs were the key part though it's a 50 percent terrorist is what
00:18:12.240 it was going to be so you're telling me that he's going to slap 100 tariff on a plane the u.s army
00:18:17.840 wants right now for their future battlefield i'm pretty sure the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff
00:18:23.360 and the pentagon will say i don't think so because they have a budget to work in with as well they want
00:18:28.560 those planes they bought them over everything else because it was deemed by the u.s army to be the best
00:18:33.680 weapons platform for their future right that says a lot that's how good those planes are yeah
00:18:41.440 and so i i mean so that's where trump is completely gone cuckoo when it comes to stuff like that yeah
00:18:47.840 no i'm with you so okay so back to quebec for me because it's interesting and you know so we're in the
00:18:53.440 midst new leader talk of separatism you know new party coming in election upcoming all right so
00:19:04.560 there's an election i think it would take time till they actually have a referendum so say you're voted
00:19:10.000 premier yeah you'd have to actually do the job for a while before you have a referendum with the people
00:19:15.200 so caq runs for a while oh yeah because i um when i lived there the new premier it was just over a
00:19:23.440 year after he took over in early 94 before there was a referendum right so you're looking at at least
00:19:29.120 sometime in 2027 late 2027 if there was a referendum in kebec right what does he do what does the new
00:19:36.080 leader do so this is interesting because yeah well that legault left legault left with a a cabinet was
00:19:41.920 just in shambles right yeah like they basically they're one of the reasons he left quite frankly
00:19:46.880 because the health minister went the finance minister was off so there was no one on side with
00:19:51.520 them right well and at the same time pablo rodriguez the former federal minister has all the problems
00:19:57.600 with the the liberal party of the province of kebec yes like in kebec politics is very very interesting
00:20:03.520 to say the least right now and as far as the future paul as far as the next premier it would take
00:20:10.160 months just to figure out the mess that he's inheriting and then what i have to do next to
00:20:15.840 keep the province running yeah exactly it's actually scary a little bit you can see why the instability
00:20:21.600 is causing some discussions about separatism because they're trying to figure out what to do and who's
00:20:26.400 coming in and quite frankly the people there must be but i mean when you're saying the mayor of montreal
00:20:32.400 that the potholes are potentially dangerous yes that it's a crisis situation health care they've got
00:20:39.120 their hands raised we need money like right now well they didn't fix health care so just so just so
00:20:44.080 and i wanted to go back to that before the show ends you know it's a very interesting discussion
00:20:49.680 because you know the the straw that broke the camel's back was health care i think we agree oh absolutely
00:20:56.400 that's what kind of made everything fold out and and fall apart so they didn't but at the end they
00:21:02.400 reached a concession they didn't really fix it and still people are without doctors without the doctor you
00:21:08.960 know the doctors got a modified resolution i agree and they're still waiting in the hallway in the
00:21:14.080 emergency room but the people didn't get a modified resolution no so infrastructure problems you still
00:21:20.560 have a huge health care void that that still hasn't solved so regardless of whether he was wrong or right
00:21:25.920 indifferent to whatever he did quite frankly they're still didn't get a solution that actually helped
00:21:31.840 the people right and i think we agree on that oh yeah so he's leaving yeah he's leaving with a i don't
00:21:40.400 know if you call it a failed tenure but he's leaving with a lot of things unaccomplished a mix sort of a
00:21:46.480 mixed review it's a mixed review you know at the end of the heavy-handed probably didn't transition
00:21:51.040 well for like i said from private to public um but you know i think uh a lot of things against him
00:22:00.960 uh environmentally but he's leaving with that but the but the province is left with that bag and that
00:22:07.760 i think that's the interesting part because i i know they wanted to force him out i know the unions
00:22:12.720 didn't like him i know the doctors didn't like him pulling his tank yeah his cabinet fell apart
00:22:19.120 but i always find it interesting so it'll just go on well i guess and people always say that well
00:22:26.960 it's just going to go on right well then no one's going to come in and perform a miracle in quebec
00:22:31.840 the new premier that's not possible with what they're being handed how could they well how could
00:22:37.600 let me well how could they fix it well think about it think about it for a minute again and i'm i'm
00:22:42.320 just the last couple days jim which is very interesting because it opened my eyes a lot when i went to
00:22:46.560 calgary right so i was like boing right so i come back from calgary no one competed for that leadership
00:22:55.120 well no no no i know he they say he did an okay job but quite frankly no one competed for the
00:23:01.040 conservative part of leadership isn't that many people going to compete to be the premier of quebec
00:23:08.560 right now because i got to tell you stepping into that role you're probably you know i you're probably
00:23:14.560 a short-term it's a short-term gig and then let's let's talk about that years ago you know you used
00:23:20.480 to step into those roles and then used to step out of those roles and used to go get another gig
00:23:24.880 or board of directors sit on a board you know and it used to be very mature people you know a little
00:23:29.440 up there in age because quite frankly their career was done they didn't need to go back into private
00:23:33.280 sector right there's not that many candidates anymore now i know there's five parties i get
00:23:38.880 it there's five parties and there's always going to be someone who can step up but how many of those
00:23:43.120 people in those parties are real how many of those people are actually sitting there just trying to get
00:23:47.760 to pension status because a lot of politics nowadays listen we're all learning quite a bit about you know
00:23:53.200 from from uh the ndps uh in the federal side years ago we're all learning quite frankly that getting
00:23:59.760 to your pension date is pretty key so so okay so so you're a successful business person in quebec
00:24:08.400 um with political ties right and someone approaches you we'd like you to run for the caq
00:24:14.000 to be the next premier you're like no thank you hell no well that's a can't can't win situation
00:24:20.720 you're one and done you know i'm making good money i don't have to put the public scrutiny the media
00:24:26.320 scrutiny that's the problem who would who would want to put up with that well and and quite frankly
00:24:32.560 now you have you know part of the part of your community wants to separate again so now you're
00:24:38.400 going into with a whole faction of protest you know just coming out from over people think you know it
00:24:44.160 was interesting i think ontarians really underestimate i was shocked the number of people lining up signing
00:24:51.520 petitions i i think they'd be awestruck if they saw what we saw when we went out there and the number
00:24:57.920 of people and the and the honest uh uh how did i say it the honest dislike of the current two political
00:25:08.480 parties federally like i think really they don't get it like i think when you're in the restaurants when
00:25:13.280 you're having a drink when you're out you know just walking and talking to people there is a huge dislike
00:25:18.560 of of the two existing parties i i won't say one or the other but there's no there's no you know
00:25:25.200 one more dislike than the other in my view when i went out there i think they're both disliked and i
00:25:30.080 think they've hit their wall now you go to quebec you're getting that sentiment again is on the street
00:25:36.880 and you have to step in and say hey i i'm going to go get something what are you going to give them
00:25:40.960 to your point what gift are you going to give quebecers at this point from a federal perspective that
00:25:47.840 are going to make them happy and realign i mean maybe you could say i helped broker the deal to
00:25:53.840 get those 100 plus planes built at the bombardier plant there's some jobs in manufacturing yeah okay
00:25:59.840 that helped maybe maybe there's some ship building in quebec city maybe that helps um maybe they start
00:26:06.400 laying the track for the high-speed rail i mean would have to be a big project uh with lots of jobs that
00:26:12.080 would last for years to for some benefit right i mean because uh it's here's the issue i think a
00:26:20.320 lot of canadians especially people in ontario in southern ontario don't realize the hard feelings
00:26:26.320 in parts of quebec and parts of alberta and a lot of people think well why would they think that way
00:26:31.200 they haven't taken the time as you did to go out there and talk to them yeah and realize that they
00:26:37.200 have a lot of grievances and concerns that they feel isn't met in ottawa or isn't met with a lot
00:26:43.120 of the federal politicians they don't listen to their needs and my needs are being met yeah we did
00:26:48.320 we did a show with javon mandat it was a very interesting what a brilliant individual yeah it
00:26:53.520 was interesting and he laid out a whole history that i didn't even i knew some of it vaguely but i'm
00:26:59.520 not from there and he you know so you take that history and you compile and you take it to today
00:27:05.920 and you start when i left you know i when i went in i thought oh this is going to be just a show and
00:27:11.360 then when i left i was like oh he's got quite a compelling argument like his argument is you know
00:27:15.520 whether i like it or not is is indifferent he his argument is very compelling to why they want to do
00:27:21.680 what they want to do and the quebecers have the same but i'm just wondering now like if i'm sitting
00:27:27.040 there like first thing i do if i was the government federal government i'd go help them with health care
00:27:34.000 i'd go get the health care situation fixed because quite frankly getting them uh adjusted
00:27:38.560 on the health care front and that all fixed again might dial the heat down any sort of referendum
00:27:44.160 giving them work you know you live there more than i did you know and i i've done a little bit
00:27:49.520 of work in quebec not as much as you because you live there but um you know it's more about uh life and
00:27:56.880 joy and absolute culture than it is about work oh yeah for them it's a very european mindset
00:28:03.600 they don't they they don't they what they call it work to live not live to work exactly right so
00:28:08.320 you want to take care of their quality of life first and make sure that's working because it's
00:28:12.080 not right now right we saw that we when we got into the doctors thing i think we were both kind of
00:28:17.120 well we were shocked we were shocked when we started picking the numbers apart right we're like
00:28:21.600 yeah that's a that's a mess right who fixes it yeah well he didn't well then he left like again
00:28:29.120 he's gone he's like i'm sure you know i'm sure the one thing he's going at home night with his wife he's
00:28:34.080 probably eating dinner thank goodness i don't have to touch that again because he doesn't have to touch
00:28:38.320 health care he's done he signed a deal with the doctor temporarily whatever he signed it off right
00:28:43.440 whether that works or not he's like you paul oh at this point yeah sure i mean like he did his time
00:28:49.120 yeah he did his like he's late 60s yeah long career in business he gave back to the public
00:28:55.280 as a politician now he's ready to like someone else's problem yeah good luck to you bonne chance
00:29:00.880 yeah no no i agree but but you know it does it does actually ask the question again a successful
00:29:09.040 business person going in and trying to actually fix because you know what that's who we should be
00:29:15.280 wanting to go into politics yeah but they're not going to take that job they're not going to take
00:29:20.160 that job for a number of reasons uh but maybe there is a way that we have to start looking at attracting
00:29:27.360 people to do the job and that they almost need a francophone version of carny who has a lot of money
00:29:33.760 and a lot of experience that says i'm going to go in and tackle this problem if they can find it if
00:29:39.600 they're willing to do what carny did yeah that's the big challenge in the province of quebec it is
00:29:45.040 yeah yeah thanks paul thanks jim