True Patriot Love - January 24, 2026


Mamdani In Focus


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Today on True Patriot Love, we dive in to the career and recent election of Zoran Mandami as mayor of the city of New York, and the day when he got elected to the office of the mayor.

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00:00:00.000 today on true patriot love we're going to dive in to the career and recent mayorship and election
00:00:12.160 of zoran mandami and what a day when he got elected to the city of new york
00:00:18.340 jim lang mike wickson welcome guys thanks so much hey i love these round tables you know
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00:00:58.620 list go go back and have a look today zoran mandami yeah you know i was a snowstorm here today yeah man
00:01:05.280 so i'm heading in and i'm thinking about you know snow plowing and of course all those things and the
00:01:12.800 city of new york popped into my head because i knew we were going to do the show and how your career in
00:01:18.920 new york is a mayor is so kind of on an edge you're you're dancing on a pin you handle a bad snowstorm
00:01:26.960 in new york city wrong as the mayor and you're done right well what about eric ed koch with the black
00:01:32.320 coat exactly remember that 70s right it was over that ended his career so now now you have this
00:01:39.020 democratic socialist which we'll talk about what that means because for canadians we're probably
00:01:44.180 saying what's a democratic socialist we can talk about that in a minute but now you have him running
00:01:48.980 the you know the biggest city or one of the biggest cities in the united states new york and uh
00:01:55.140 you know you look at it and you think to yourself how's that gonna go how's he gonna do and when i
00:02:00.660 started looking into his platform it was interesting because what i started off thinking is what the
00:02:06.020 mainstream media was telling me how bizarre his uh his platform is you know what i found no
00:02:14.180 i found a lot of his platform is very canadian it does it does reach beyond what normal government
00:02:22.260 involvement will be um it tends to shut down government involvement in places you don't expect
00:02:28.980 it to that we we do the same thing yeah and then it steps up on behalf of its citizens theoretically uh
00:02:36.660 to almost i i don't i can't think of another word right now almost baby society uh from the top
00:02:43.940 down but for a lot of americans that's something you oh no we can't do we can't do that we can't
00:02:48.980 help other people no no it's a it's a capitalist society yes you're everyone you're on your own
00:02:54.580 good luck yeah yeah yeah born born in uganda yeah right and his parents are he's a professor at
00:03:00.900 columbia his father and his mother is actually a movie producer oh okay okay american indian uh movies
00:03:09.860 she produces and she's won quite a few awards she's an award-winning uh film producer uh done
00:03:15.380 very well well in that world if you're a film producer i probably don't have to tell you guys
00:03:20.020 you know we have movies in in america and they're big deals and we have movie stars in america that
00:03:24.900 are big deals in asia south asia uh the movie stars are gods and the amount of people oh yeah that
00:03:33.460 follow them and adore these movies um it's a completely different level altogether so the
00:03:39.940 likelihood is he's had a pretty interesting life oh yeah they've seen a lot well to your point you
00:03:46.260 know they people go and they pray at the home of the movie stars yeah in india is that right there's
00:03:52.340 nothing for for them hundreds of thousands of people to show up on occasions and pray for the movie
00:03:57.940 stars huh yeah and it's interesting because uh you know as you watch it on uh you know youtube and
00:04:04.340 everything else it's really interesting so meanwhile jim's been a big bollywood star for years and he
00:04:08.740 doesn't even know i didn't even know people are looking at him funny and it's the cardigan now
00:04:13.380 it's not a cardigan it's a party card so now new york is being run by a democratic socialist what is
00:04:23.460 that paul okay time up before we get into it people are wondering okay why would america why
00:04:29.620 would new york city vote for him right the previous mayor eric adams leaves under a cloud oh yeah scandal
00:04:36.740 and suspicion and a lot of hard feelings so not only that but the city has diminished and disintegrated
00:04:43.780 in areas where it had huge opportunity for growth and really the city has crumbled in many ways but the
00:04:51.860 point is as an outside observer sometimes if the current politician is made you so upset and is in
00:04:59.620 your mind has made such a mess of things you know what why not give this person a try yeah yeah change
00:05:05.700 why not sometimes change happens yeah but think about the climate you know all over north america right
00:05:11.140 now uh housing affordability yeah youth who are over educated underemployed food food insecurity so you
00:05:18.660 have all these things that are the infrastructure is crumbling infrastructure is crumbling so you
00:05:22.500 think of all these things and when you look at it it does play into a socialist point of view quite
00:05:31.540 frankly so if i'm sitting there and i'm saying you know all you lazy people you get back to work and
00:05:35.940 you gotta you know live the capitalist dream and work as hard as you can and and they're like well i'm
00:05:41.700 trying to do that but i can't get a job i can't find food at a reasonable price i can't live anywhere so all my
00:05:48.420 basic necessities are out of my reach of course you're going to start to appeal and and quite
00:05:53.140 frankly you had a former mayor who you mentioned quite frankly uh uh investigated rated uh i think
00:06:00.820 he was indicted but not convicted like there was a kind of a number of things going on and he was
00:06:05.700 preoccupied with his own behavior there was a lot going on there right we know it's interesting
00:06:10.820 sorry capitalism makes sense right and and certainly in new york and america has made
00:06:15.860 great waves for many years with capitalism but it only works once your socialism and your social
00:06:24.500 state is in order and people aren't starving and rebelling in the streets and and polarized politically
00:06:30.020 and to that end gentlemen there are people now in north america not just new york city who have an
00:06:35.860 education have a job making decent money and are still struggling to make ends meet can't go on a
00:06:42.020 vacation eating basic food have a simple apartment because they simply can't afford anything more
00:06:47.540 they're like hey i did everything everyone told me i went to school i got a job and make decent money
00:06:51.860 and that's not enough put all that on steroids being in new york city right right right and right
00:06:56.660 you know so and they're really and when i looked into it there is a democratic socialist party of america
00:07:02.740 oh okay i didn't even know that quite frankly and that's he's part of it and there's 90 000 members
00:07:08.420 huh um and you know so i was like okay great you know i lived in america and i didn't even know there
00:07:13.140 was i've never heard of this so there is one uh they're highly active the democratic socialist agenda
00:07:21.060 is uh how do i say it it's run in uh areas or it's disjointed it's supposed to be they want it that way
00:07:28.900 so for economic uh democracy they believe that they shouldn't have a a co-join nationwide
00:07:35.700 uh platform huh so they have platforms by areas because every area has a different need yes
00:07:42.660 that actually sounds really reasonable the way they look at it so so it's interesting so they
00:07:47.300 have kind of a different approach but it is really based on economic uh democracy so they still believe
00:07:54.580 in democracy and of the economy votes everything else um but they want uh basically employer self
00:08:03.540 management so you they want people to have their ability to self-manage them size uh and they
00:08:09.620 basically want uh workplace democracy so a lot of dei type of things right you know when you look at his
00:08:18.180 platform um and and that's what they believe in so you see it coming through when you see his actual
00:08:24.020 platform but but that there is an association it is a group of people and so he did have a backing
00:08:30.500 going into it i don't know what the who and how much money the platform actually generated what's
00:08:36.180 a small group of people 90 000 constituents uh once again though when you say that they really
00:08:43.540 localize their approach it doesn't take that many people focused on a localized issue to get
00:08:51.540 change to happen i mean look in toronto i hate to draw the comparison but our last election
00:08:57.460 for america toronto was not a huge divide yeah you know several thousand votes would have made the
00:09:02.820 decision the other way okay so great example today the snowstorm the finch west lrt the multi-billion
00:09:10.260 dollar brand new light rail system can't run because of the weather it's not running today because
00:09:16.340 of the weather so if you're in new york city what do you basic needs is my subway running is someone
00:09:22.340 picking up my garbage you know like you just want to be able to get is olivia chow having a rough 1.00
00:09:27.380 day is that what you're saying oh my god well let's talk about that so we have a mayor in toronto
00:09:33.380 right so uh zoran's platform right so the first thing he hit on was rent freezes yeah remember rent
00:09:41.140 freezes of course yeah we were big how many years did we have rent freezes here it was a big it was a
00:09:46.020 constant it was something toronto was known for yeah exactly so we went years with it it's not
00:09:50.180 something that's foreign to canadians right i don't know where uh it went i guess it just honestly
00:09:55.780 i'm trying to think of the history of it but well i think that it was a john tory got rid of over the
00:09:59.700 last decade yeah yeah over the last decade of so or so it has wound down and it's almost you know it's
00:10:05.940 swung back the other direction in favor of you know increases uh with regularity yeah but now we do
00:10:12.740 have a we do have a law and a system and it's regulated how much your rent can increase and so it is
00:10:18.980 very much in line with that so he want what he wants to do is he wants to go into the housing
00:10:23.780 units that are designated for low rental we call it low rental and he basically wants to put rent
00:10:29.620 freezes on them i mean new york city that's one way to actually keep it semi-affordable i mean you hear
00:10:36.660 horror stories about people in a studio apartment paying three thousand dollars us a month well that's
00:10:42.900 not unusual it makes places like manhattan uh you know and other boroughs that are fairly sizable it
00:10:49.060 makes them more of a transient population because you go there to do a job you can no longer afford
00:10:54.260 to live there and then you must move on to a different part and you're commuting further
00:10:58.260 revealed yeah but it's very interesting you know we do this on the housing show um and yesterday uh
00:11:04.740 doug ford even came out in ontario and he originally we were designating so much for affordable housing so
00:11:11.620 any any uh person who lives so many meters i think it's 800 meters from a subway station right
00:11:17.860 uh they could build apartment buildings and quite frankly he was designating so many of those uh units
00:11:23.940 to affordable he took that off he did he removed it yesterday so basically you can just build a
00:11:31.780 apartment building with no low rental no affordable so the the excuse they used to get developers back to
00:11:37.860 work really because in toronto we have a certain stagnating market at the moment was to say we're
00:11:42.500 going to do this for housing for affordability but now that's gone entirely but the funny thing is all
00:11:49.220 the programs for for apartment buildings are still in place so you can still go get low interest money
00:11:55.140 and everything to build the same building but now you don't have to put anyone with affordable housing
00:12:00.500 needs into those buildings how does that help the community essentially quite frankly the the whole
00:12:06.340 initiative went bust so mondani's idea it was an interesting idea probably why it phased out over
00:12:13.060 time is the more you created these divisions of low rental housing or you know subsidized housing or
00:12:20.180 rent freezes you just cause developers not to build them yeah they become unaffordable for a developer to
00:12:26.980 get involved inflation is catching up on his maintenance costs he can't maintain the buildings and then the
00:12:31.780 next you know the next thing he did he did a crackdown he wanted to do a crackdown on bad landlords
00:12:36.900 where basically you know they're right before that who wouldn't be for that it's a it's a great idea
00:12:41.700 but you know combining the two together is a little dangerous because now you have a rent freeze and a
00:12:45.860 bad landlord so then it really makes developers really uh you know or even landlords there have been
00:12:51.620 horror stories across the country vancouver oh yeah like every city has got these landlord horror stories
00:12:57.700 and people are struggling to get just a decent place with running water i think for existing
00:13:03.300 buildings buildings jim i totally agree with you yeah so like i think his idea is a good idea but
00:13:08.420 getting new building but to get new buildings in place it actually really costs because once you put
00:13:12.900 that in then people are like i don't want to go through that okay and then because now i got money
00:13:16.420 i'm putting locking my money up for 50 years in this rental building it has so many low rental units
00:13:21.780 now i'm you know what he wants to do is if you don't fix it the city will oh so if if you because
00:13:29.060 new york has well we were just talking about it before the show you know you go one block off fifth
00:13:34.100 avenue and you're in a run baby you're in the wrong side of the tracks exactly so you know that's
00:13:38.900 thousands of buildings that they would be sending government maintenance groups in to fix problems
00:13:44.740 and the bill that these people own the buildings um a lot of people own the buildings don't even live in
00:13:51.780 the united countries yeah so quite frankly it's just getting the bills paid that he's trying to
00:13:56.740 it's an interesting concept it's really hard to enforce um but but it is i think it's a conceptually
00:14:03.380 do i like that i do like i do well yeah i think older buildings that's good for society but once again
00:14:10.180 a lot of the first two things you've discussed already are management nightmares how do you enforce
00:14:17.620 this how do you go after so many people in such a short period of time unless he's doing outstanding
00:14:22.900 he's got four years to make this happen right so is it a reality i mean just staffing alone think
00:14:29.460 about the logistics with all the apartments in new york city in the boroughs uh trying to get the the
00:14:36.260 trades people to all the buildings some of those buildings were built over a hundred years ago and so
00:14:42.420 the infrastructure needs constant they have infestations that have infestations yeah seriously
00:14:48.420 and you know that's the other thing you know you send your own crew in to start tapping into someone
00:14:52.260 else's building yeah then you have lawsuits over you're causing damage oh 100 new york they sue each
00:14:57.620 other like every second so interesting concept not sure it has you know conceptually great practical no
00:15:06.180 right so next thing he came up with of course is something we talk about which affordable housing
00:15:11.780 which you hear all the time now uh and you know he wants to build more affordable housing units but
00:15:16.820 what what does affordable housing mean in new york city what's their definition because i hear that
00:15:22.980 in canada affordable housing and i drive by the signs starting at this price i'm like i don't know
00:15:30.260 anyone that can afford that well also i mean well new york is the most expensive place in america i'm
00:15:36.260 guessing to live yes so if you're already there you need to ask yourself the question if you can
00:15:42.340 afford to be there because otherwise affordable living is not maybe for a city like manhattan or
00:15:50.580 many of the boroughs in new york or toronto or many of the gta uh because i hear that buzzword
00:15:57.300 affordable housing at all levels of politicians gentlemen and i'm like should you be able to afford a
00:16:03.380 house on par an apartment on park avenue no jim i'm sorry you shouldn't no right but but maybe
00:16:09.620 there's a pocket where you could well so i guess but is that necessary i don't know people have to
00:16:16.740 live somewhere i think he did you know and reading his platform which points in times on affordable
00:16:23.460 housing got a little fuzzy because he wants to do he wanted to do he wants to do 200 000 new units over 10
00:16:28.660 years wow so uh and i think you know very ambitious um and i think he had started to look at the
00:16:38.100 european model for doing it which we did a show and we talked about this affordable housing in europe
00:16:44.100 and affordable housing in north america are two different things i think we're catching up to where
00:16:47.860 they are already left they've been there um what they do and it's a more strategic model is they take
00:16:54.260 a percentage of people's income they work backwards and they work out the business model for building
00:16:59.460 the units so if you make 50 000 it's based on your 50 000 yeah what can be built to house you oh based
00:17:06.420 on your okay so they run it like a real strategic model in in europe and in different places so smart
00:17:13.060 yeah it is smart and quite frankly we haven't got there we talk about it you know i did a show and
00:17:17.860 we're not really that truthfully right now we're not that uh sophisticated we're not that interested
00:17:24.180 in doing affordable housing or we would really be reacting yeah we're not it's just it's a it's a
00:17:28.340 buzzword politically we throw around but we we aren't they they actually go through and do the exercise
00:17:32.980 of looking at say 30 percent of your income going to shelter and then they work back and then they come
00:17:38.340 up with what the each unit will cost and then they figure out an engineering uh to figure out how they'll
00:17:43.700 build it how much government uh sustenance needs to go into that exactly okay so they they have a
00:17:49.300 structure he's starting to talk about it he doesn't get into it but he is he he's he's he's educated you
00:17:56.260 can tell when you're reading his stuff he he's been around the world and he's seen different models and so
00:18:02.020 yeah you know you see him and you're like okay that probably he's gonna land on it somewhere here
00:18:07.140 so but i don't know but we can't be so arrogant guys to think that north america has the only
00:18:12.820 solution to these problems there are other countries around the world and other cities
00:18:17.940 who come up with different solutions say putting retail and a grocery store or a coffee shop in
00:18:23.620 the main floor building up from it and make you know it's interesting uh uh king charles uh created
00:18:29.620 a plan called uh poundbury uh in the uh cornwall states in in um in england and people they slagged
00:18:37.620 him for why is the prince out there at the time he was a prince why is he out there pretending
00:18:42.500 to be a developer architect and what he actually did was very well educated they created this mix of
00:18:50.500 all different sites sizes of uh abodes uh all different kinds of pricing associated with it
00:18:57.140 they built the grocery stores yes uh stuff over top they made it possible to have mixed density in
00:19:02.820 certain areas and what you don't see in poundbury is the low rent housing area and the rich area yeah it
00:19:10.100 just doesn't lay out that way there are some streets that are and some streets that aren't but
00:19:14.420 by and large they created a mix where so smart you're a rich guy and i'm a middle class guy and
00:19:20.260 our kids go to school together and they actually live on the same street that's a good thing and
00:19:24.900 it's an amazing community that's been built around this and i i i think that he's seeing models like
00:19:30.900 this that are working i think so and you know his next thing was safety and crime yeah which is big in
00:19:36.100 new york big in new york big here so quite frankly and probably the housing initiative leads into the
00:19:42.660 crime initiative i think so so you know like i remember years ago when i had a business and was
00:19:48.180 in the u.s uh was in baltimore and they had row house after row house after row house and you just
00:19:53.860 would drive through them and you think yourself how that can this not cause crime well there's no way
00:19:59.460 people could live here and not be involved in some criminal mike tyson talks about where he grew up in the
00:20:05.060 in a housing project in brooklyn and how everyone was involved in crime because it was such a
00:20:10.740 i mean i mean that happens you stick poor people in a poor area and give them no hope and no option
00:20:17.860 with that much density yeah it's bad things will happen it's just natural right so
00:20:23.700 he he does get it now he talks about crime he's again uh democratic socialist he's talking about crime
00:20:30.980 from mental health and counseling perspectives so he's not talking about more police he's talking
00:20:36.420 about the fact that uh you know we need to put more mental health people into play and figure out why
00:20:42.580 we have so many street people figure out why we have so many is you know new york is overrun with yeah you
00:20:48.100 know uh homeless people people asking for money beggars yeah so they're all over the city so he's really
00:20:55.380 trying to say we got to get a mental health program here kind of like a jeff wilson is you know an
00:21:00.820 outbreak yeah jeff wilson by the way you can go back and take a look at previous episodes he's been
00:21:05.940 focused on uh the bird flu outbreak but yeah really what he talks about is uh outbreak response and how to
00:21:14.260 handle it and this is an outbreak fentanyl these new drugs uh the the difficulty in getting into programs
00:21:22.420 and getting off the street just keep compounding we're seeing it here in canada and then we saw
00:21:28.180 alberta we saw calgary oh yeah take real steps they they brought the police the mental health people
00:21:34.100 and the actual health community the hospital together and they did a massive sweep of you're
00:21:41.620 getting off the street uh now they they did it by force but the results were instantaneous and they've
00:21:48.580 been somewhat long lasting by the sounds of things too often you're taking young police officers and
00:21:55.300 giving them the call the wellness check which is someone with a mental health issue so they have
00:22:01.140 minimal training that's not what they signed up for and they're dealing with someone with a severe
00:22:06.580 mental health issue not viewed as a mental health expert by the community shows up you right and you
00:22:12.020 hear all these incidents and i feel wait a sec we're putting the police officers in a horrible situation
00:22:18.020 why not send them along with someone who's a mental health expert who maybe is more trained to deal
00:22:23.860 with the situation did you see that i don't know if you saw it last week the thing in montreal with the
00:22:28.740 uh subway with the mentally unstable guy outside this yes yes oh my goodness was that terrible so 0.84
00:22:35.700 this guy's you know going off his rocker he's he's out of his tree uh he's dancing around on the steps
00:22:42.100 of the subway 30 police officers show up so they're trying to figure out to taser him or whatever to
00:22:50.500 do and in the middle of it he's in the middle of the street two police cars come and they i don't know
00:22:56.340 what they were thinking they were gonna sandwich him anyways he jumped out of the way and they crashed
00:23:01.700 into each other and then finally they taster taster him and got him down there had to be 50 constables
00:23:10.100 on the scene by the end of it is that a colossal waste of resources for one person one homeless guy
00:23:16.420 who's out of his tree and they're sitting there putting 50 officers into play and really look like
00:23:23.060 the keystone cops at the end of it they're smashing into each other jumping on it was just really badly
00:23:29.220 where you have a mental health professional on the lead with the police sort of of offering support
00:23:34.980 like you used to see in the movies they might know the right things to say and try to talk them down
00:23:38.900 get them into you know hey that's or at least say to the police no no tase him we're not getting
00:23:44.500 anywhere yeah yeah at that moment they have that's his call then right yeah exactly that's or her call
00:23:49.620 saying hey i've lost control the situation we need and then you're like okay then you have some
00:23:54.500 direction yeah if you if somebody's a medical health professional there and understands what the
00:23:58.260 reaction to the drug the alcohol or or the uh the uh mental issue yeah they might better advise the
00:24:04.580 police at that moment yeah i felt bad actually they got it on tape i was actually oh wow i wish
00:24:08.900 they didn't record this because it makes these guys look really i'm sure they weren't sitting at
00:24:12.740 i'm sure their family was kind of getting a kick out of it they were kind of again the officers
00:24:17.700 for that yeah no it wasn't good wasn't good next thing he had which uh we spent a lot of time
00:24:22.740 pre-show on city owned grocery stores right sounds like a wild concept doesn't it i just don't trust
00:24:31.860 the city to run anything that well of any city yeah it's been my experience it's the city can do
00:24:37.780 certain things like uh you know mow the soccer fields and plow the roads and pick up the garbage
00:24:43.860 and outsource that they actually can't really do that themselves so i don't quite trust them to run
00:24:49.780 a grocery store they will outsource it paul mark our words on this one no but they want to sell
00:24:54.820 uh wholesale foods yeah uh and their goal is to get it to people who need food and to move people
00:25:05.300 i guess off food banks into buying food at a more reasonable price i don't hate this idea to be honest
00:25:12.660 you know what i don't either uh uh food banks get abused tough to manage tough to make again great
00:25:21.460 idea however food stamps was the the precursor to this right oh boy government cheese was another so
00:25:28.420 that became a corrupt very corrupt uh bit of business and it became messy to take away
00:25:34.420 uh it still exists in many places but that's essentially this is like somewhere between food bank
00:25:41.460 and shopping at walgreens let's say in the states is there a good point to having that transitional
00:25:48.180 phase where you're actually being required to buy food and will it be different than the food bank
00:25:55.540 or hear me out can we maybe put uh rules in place where the companies own the grocery stores aren't
00:26:04.580 um marking up items with two ridiculous profit margins so basic items butter milk bread eggs are
00:26:13.780 sold at a reasonable price we just had a bread lawsuit in canada we price fixing over bread can you
00:26:21.220 imagine over bread yeah i know they're boring so maybe just say the five or six staple items are sold
00:26:29.220 at a reasonable price that could help yeah it is a good idea and you know we we had commissions we we
00:26:35.700 had committees commissions we have a charter now which really doesn't help it doesn't stop them from
00:26:42.740 selling stuff at expensive prices and having the most profit in the last 10 years oh crazy profit you
00:26:49.220 know and we we really you know now with alcohol going to grocery stores and pharmacies and everything
00:26:55.700 else we've loaded up these companies really with the ability to be non-competitive for new entrants
00:27:02.580 so now well they're too big they're too big now so so okay say you you put in a government grocery
00:27:08.260 store how do they compete when they when you go to the one store and there's the food there's your wine
00:27:14.180 and beer there's your pharmacy i got everything in one store they will compete because so this is
00:27:20.340 interesting and we had this conversation uh at home the other day it's interesting how we're starting
00:27:26.100 to shop and i think it's it reminds me of back when i was in my 30s we used to go from grocery store to
00:27:33.940 grocery store store to store depend on what we were buying so we bought our vegetables here our meat here
00:27:38.900 right so we're back to that again so like as we move around in a week we're like okay let's go there
00:27:44.420 because it's got the freshest meat at the best price let's go here because the vegetables are good and
00:27:49.460 it's reasonable and so we kind of have that that route we do in the week where we hit different
00:27:54.100 stores now so i think where they've our grocery stores here in canada right now you know the the
00:28:01.140 pseudo monopolies we've given them i think where they've overplayed their hand a little
00:28:05.540 is people are going to go back to that model so and and the more they push it the more they keep
00:28:11.060 though not adjusting the prices to be reasonable i think it forces people down so the wholesale
00:28:16.580 government-run grocery stores you you will get people in new york who along their path will go
00:28:21.860 there and get their canned goods or they'll get their whatever yeah you know i think it would i
00:28:25.860 think conceptually it's an interesting idea putting it in practical i think it has its flaws and i think
00:28:33.140 it'll end up just being as corrupt as food stamps were so i don't think it's i don't think at the end
00:28:37.620 of the day and and that's my that's my issue is that in theory like i agree with everyone here
00:28:42.500 yeah oh that's me but you have to like at the execution so you don't have that corruption
00:28:48.100 it sounds very difficult yeah and then you have to get the distribution the how do you figure out
00:28:52.500 who's allowed who's allowed to use it yeah shelving space yeah how do you determine yeah who's eligible
00:28:57.780 to use it right well i think everyone is in his what he's saying in his everyone in new york yeah
00:29:02.420 everyone it's basically you know it grows though they'll be gigantic at the end of them because quite
00:29:08.020 frankly it will be the next costco's now and does that put does that actually put the other
00:29:13.220 grocers out of business i don't know you don't know what the concept you know what it's going to
00:29:17.700 do it's going to take the um availability of product in those stores that's similar to the or
00:29:23.060 there's going to be new products created that are made specifically for that uh government grocery
00:29:29.220 scenario and i don't think that you'll you'll find less of those products available in the stores
00:29:36.020 that you shop in now so if it's the canned goods maybe it won't have the same selection
00:29:40.100 yeah or they're just going to adapt and lose a little bit of profit yeah well but it's interesting
00:29:46.180 you know we this one was kind of when i heard i'm like oh no forget that's a terrible idea you know
00:29:51.540 then when i started reading through what he's saying i get what he's saying you know again conceptually
00:29:55.860 but it just won't work and it's interesting you're looking at all these items that we're talking
00:30:01.220 about you know we're not finished the platform yet but parallel ours like all these issues we're
00:30:08.260 talking about you know new york city's talk so it's interesting i'm reading and i'm kind of going
00:30:12.980 through and i'm like oh we talk about that all the time vancouver montreal all the every big city in
00:30:17.700 canada has similar issues we're talking about food costs affordability housing rent controls we're
00:30:23.940 talking about landlords health issues yeah yeah what's really interesting is he's taking uh dramatic
00:30:31.460 steps like drastic steps to get in the way of these problems that we're complaining about here in
00:30:36.420 toronto well so i can't imagine olivia chow standing up and saying i'm going to actually take action we're
00:30:41.940 going to open up stores we're going to enforce this i don't know that's never even been mentioned no even
00:30:47.940 enforcing rent uh regulations in the city has been widely ignored think about who his mother is
00:30:56.660 she's a movie producer right so he you know we had this conversation jim you and i you know part of
00:31:02.340 the issue in politics you know you can win a whole campaign we saw it here recently in the federal
00:31:07.220 election you know you come up with one good slogan and one good elbows elbows up you unite a whole
00:31:13.300 country he united a whole city or he got enough people to vote him in for a whole city just by
00:31:20.500 taking what the basic issues in the city were laying out a platform you know based on a you know which
00:31:27.460 may never be practically able to deploy it smart politics so yeah smart politics so you know uh
00:31:34.020 interesting the way he did it um fighting corporate exploitation so this is this is very democratic
00:31:40.500 socialist and it's basically um putting a tax on uh the higher income earners uh yeah right so and
00:31:51.300 what do you think they'll do if that they put the tax in we got in no but right but so if he does the
00:31:58.020 high-end income earners will go well if the tax gets too high all this move to name the city or country
00:32:04.180 suddenly housing got more affordable in new york didn't it yeah you know that's the one thing if
00:32:08.740 you push a high tax bracket uh group out it doesn't necessarily make a big dent in the city
00:32:17.780 they are a small amount of people well we just did it right we just put a a home tax for homes above
00:32:24.020 three million dollars in toronto oh that's true yeah we just did it so we just we're actually ahead
00:32:28.580 of the game on this one yeah we're ahead of the game on him on this one and quite frankly also on this
00:32:33.060 one which i kind of misspoke a little bit he he spends a lot of time um making sure that advertising
00:32:39.620 and monopolies uh don't uh predatorily um advertise to the citizens of new york so in the states right
00:32:49.860 now i don't know if we uh have this as much here we probably do and i just don't know about it i don't
00:32:54.740 see it um you can buy anything on credit it's a very big thing in the states more so than here
00:33:00.500 so people buy pizza on credit well you mean like you're not talking credit card no uh so you uh
00:33:08.340 get it like a loan or you get a credit buy simple items yeah and so you pay over time so i can i can
00:33:14.500 sit there and i can order like a pizza and i can pay for my pizza over 15 months really yeah no i don't
00:33:20.980 think we have that here it's down i don't think so yeah they have that in the u.s if we do i'll buy lunch
00:33:26.020 so in the states they they've fractionalized there's a word i'm probably gonna use wrong
00:33:32.500 they fractionalized credit down to the most minute wow item of purchase right and so it's
00:33:38.660 caused a lot of new yorkers a lot of harm so what he's saying he's gonna ban some of the pricing or
00:33:45.140 some of the advertising on it make sure it's not totally predatory so the people know what they're
00:33:49.940 buying and how much a pizza is going to cost him fifteen hundred dollars in the end because after
00:33:54.100 fifteen months the pizza must cost what triple what they paid for yeah yeah oh yeah it's very
00:34:00.420 big in the states right now it's it's quite a bit it's actually i can see funding and financing being
00:34:05.460 built around this easily if you wanted an investor oh we're going to be able to oh yeah yeah okay so
00:34:11.620 that makes a lot of sense i had heard a story that on black friday in america they said a huge
00:34:16.900 percentage of the stuff bought was bought on credit i thought credit card but you're saying
00:34:21.300 was bought on credit credit yeah oh yeah with the retailer or the the supplier direct oh wow wow yeah
00:34:30.020 that can't be good no and you can see how people would be taken advantage of totally predatory right
00:34:34.740 and it really preys on a younger like our young adults the young the poor yeah yeah oh yeah for sure
00:34:41.140 you know they remember payday loans oh yeah yeah you don't see as much in the us anymore because they
00:34:45.700 just go right online and they get credit for everything and they're buying so i'm you know
00:34:49.300 i'm buying my groceries over 15 months i'm buying wow everything wow um no cost child care part of
00:34:58.020 his platform how can they pull that off we'll just daycare centers with no cost yeah so totally funded
00:35:03.860 by the city of new york yeah well you know our ten dollar a day yes so he doesn't want to do our ten
00:35:08.900 dollar a day he just wants to uh basically allow people to drop their children off uh and that's it
00:35:17.940 okay so uh pretty expensive to run for the city though yeah and it also seems to me that the quality
00:35:23.380 of what you're going to get for your kids i mean it hasn't been six weeks six weeks to five years i was
00:35:29.700 just looking up the okay but as you say the people in park avenue they're in such a different universe
00:35:34.820 their daycare probably looks like the ritz-carlton in montreal and salaro boulevard so they you know
00:35:40.180 well they're not going to use it take a look at what happens when you uh put a whole bunch of
00:35:44.900 government funding behind daycares like this and what happens minnesota is like on fire right now
00:35:52.500 because of it so what's the city going to do are they going to outsource balances are they going to
00:35:57.140 suddenly become educators in a realm that they haven't been before are they going to have to create a
00:36:01.460 new department of early childhood education because in theory it's safety security training
00:36:08.340 there's a ton of components or are they going to hand out checks to new yorkers and say pick your
00:36:12.820 own daycare because in theory like oh wow that's what a great thing for the people in new york but
00:36:17.620 also i'm thinking about the fraud in minnesota and the paul mike jim daycare who has no kids are
00:36:23.060 getting all this money every year yeah but that that to me that one to me sounds far-fetched genuinely
00:36:33.620 uh because well first of all we're seeing it implode but also it just seems yeah cost prohibitive right
00:36:40.820 birth rates are going down yeah so this is the kind of the you know the worldwide conundrum right
00:36:47.700 we're all kind of hearing about more and more now which we're going to hear about more over the next few
00:36:51.620 few years right people aren't having kids there's not a lot of incentive now it's expensive there's
00:36:59.460 great excuses to stop us he's trying to counterbalance it because quite frankly you know if and we're
00:37:07.300 seeing it now you know with all this stuff going on minnesota and everywhere else if they're reducing
00:37:12.420 their immigration their birth rates are going down the growth in the country it really does kind of
00:37:18.500 start to cap that country the growth right because uh no new people well you know i think that the
00:37:25.460 you know the planning overall in america just seems to be you know reduction of uh humans if i may be
00:37:32.180 honest with you yeah and i don't think birthright is something they talk about too much but once you
00:37:37.620 take 12 of the population away from america and don't replace it with new americans arriving in our
00:37:44.100 hospitals through birth how many years is it before it's on a decline that that can't be but they
00:37:50.980 haven't thought that through at all it doesn't feel like it and even in canada we do think about it a
00:37:54.900 little bit we do talk about yeah declining birth rates we do talk about aging populations our boomers
00:38:00.340 and stuff quite a bit it's a huge issue for canada right now we don't but it's discussed a lot yeah yeah
00:38:06.580 it's not something you hear trump talking about or any of the anybody in congress all that much no no well he
00:38:12.820 just i think he's you know i think he's thinking that quite frankly get rid of the people who came
00:38:17.700 and then people will naturally immigrate on a legalized basis right with with enough wherewithal
00:38:24.500 to go about existing americans will see a better hope for tomorrow yes for having a family okay so you
00:38:30.900 live in country fill in the blank and you see what's going on with ice what happened in venezuela the
00:38:36.420 threats to columbia and greenland how are you really that excited to sign up and immigrate there
00:38:43.700 oh no at this point especially if you have young children no you wouldn't want to go if you have
00:38:48.100 two young boys quite frankly there's no way you're immigrating right they might be you might go to 1.00
00:38:53.700 canada i'd be drafted yeah sure there's other countries you would go to but right now i it doesn't
00:38:59.620 seem like an appealing place to immigrate to no no definitely not he's shut that off so to mike's point you
00:39:05.860 know maybe it's just trying to get existing people to start you know having families and and you know
00:39:12.260 babies which frankly is really how a country creates heritage creates its own identity you
00:39:18.900 know uh we love toronto because we grew up here right and we want to participate in our community
00:39:24.100 because we grew up here we want it to be good like it was for us but okay so what he's talking about
00:39:30.500 you're a 29 year old male or female in the new york area you're still living at home because you're
00:39:38.100 struggling to save to live on your own how can you start thinking about family when you can't even live
00:39:43.700 on your own yeah that's it so you want to have that progression once upon a time you went to school
00:39:50.020 you're a certain age you lived in your own you met someone you started a family of you know by the mid
00:39:55.540 30s maybe you had a kid oh that ladder is broken yes that's big a big part of the problem we talked
00:40:02.020 about this recently too and i would imagine uh new yorkers have that same excuse we'll never be able to
00:40:07.780 afford a home okay none of us were ever able to afford a home jim did you wake up with money to go
00:40:15.540 and buy your house god no or did you have sleepless nights and uh sweaty moments for several years trying
00:40:22.820 to make that home happen decades right so the desire to put in that effort the desire to suffer
00:40:30.260 the desire to see an end game has been eliminated by the market telling us homes aren't worth as much
00:40:37.060 us is hearing that as well that we'll never be able to have a family or afford this
00:40:42.180 okay so you're told that enough you start to believe it i don't need a home i guess yeah
00:40:45.940 i'm happy in my little condo or staying right here with mom and dad we get along just fine it's a nice
00:40:50.660 basement no it's really laundry's good mom put in new shag did you have the cannoli it was excellent
00:40:55.860 it was so good and a sauce like that you don't get anywhere get out spoken like a true parent so
00:41:03.700 the next thing which is interesting it's called k-12 which they we've heard about this they have a huge
00:41:09.220 teacher shortage oh yeah yeah so they're short seven to nine thousand teachers right now and that many
00:41:15.940 yeah that heard this so it will be it's a program uh to launch community to classroom a new initiative
00:41:22.820 to train certify and hire new teachers um and basically they will uh try to get teachers trained
00:41:30.020 up and in classrooms so they and let's be serious a lot of places in new york you wouldn't want to be a
00:41:37.140 teacher no can i i may say something a friend of ours do you remember the white shadow guys yeah
00:41:44.260 so a friend of our family in the um in york region area went to queen's teachers college
00:41:52.420 worked one year as a teacher thought the students were so unruly decided not to go back and that is
00:41:59.300 a problem that a lot of young teachers are getting into it and realizing i can't handle these kids i don't
00:42:06.100 like it this is not for me emotionally mentally physically and they're not staying in the game
00:42:11.700 that's a problem that's a common one for education across north america well we we and i i think of 0.88
00:42:18.740 myself as a high schooler i didn't have a huge amount of respect i'm sure i was an idiot but i also
00:42:25.940 wasn't violent right threatening teachers and i i don't remember seeing much of that but i do
00:42:33.060 recall one of my friends recently telling me that in an altercation with a student in the inner city
00:42:39.140 the student got nose to nose and a switchblade a row between them and he was like how many more
00:42:45.700 years do i have to do but that would never we would never thought that when we were kids right
00:42:49.860 no and i think that is part of the problem for every major city in north america now not just new york
00:42:55.460 is finding people willing to put up with this to be a teacher yes well he talks about in in his
00:43:01.220 platform he does talk about this and he and he says it's time to create almost like uh student
00:43:07.380 teacher governance committees within the schools to try to address all the these uh mental and
00:43:13.620 physical issues that are going on so he he does talk about it in there and okay how to uh structure it
00:43:21.140 uh and again that's more again a democratic socialist that's kind of their democratic free self-management
00:43:28.260 he's right he's talking about them forming committees and figuring out how to regulate
00:43:32.180 their own schools he's saying so that no so that no one is really in control they're all in control
00:43:38.180 so they either want to be there or they don't want to be there so it's kind of the the the doctrine
00:43:43.300 that what's interesting because by high school let's say grade 10 grade 11 you either want to be there
00:43:51.700 or you don't want to be there yeah so if you don't go then go because at 16 you're legally allowed to
00:43:57.220 drop out correct yeah but you don't have to keep going at a certain work i guess at that point but
00:44:02.820 don't become a problem to society and that's the danger well and i i you know on our system here right
00:44:08.900 now i think our removal of trade schools in a big way was a real big mistake i think that was a terrible
00:44:15.700 mistake we have no trade whoever let that dissipate and it became a philosophy you know that go to
00:44:21.380 university guinness kids no you know i know it sounded a little bit it was a little bit tough and
00:44:26.900 i think we softened too much on that at some point we said oh everyone should have a chance you know
00:44:32.900 there should be a divide somewhere and quite frankly and when i went to school you were in the
00:44:37.540 i think the three or four year program or oh yeah yeah basically you know you you you either
00:44:45.140 went into the four year and that gave you a chance to go anywhere but if you went into the three-year
00:44:49.300 program you were going to trade school you were going to george harvey well here's something else
00:44:53.700 they don't do anymore kids don't fail yeah and i remember being in high school bailing a grade having
00:45:00.580 to go to summer school to get that credit because i needed the credit i grew up real fast realizing all my
00:45:06.500 friends are going to the beach or going on their bikes and i'm getting in the bus and spending a summer
00:45:11.620 day to get that credit because i was jerking around in school and so now it i know in ontario
00:45:17.860 and a lot of provinces and a lot of jurisdictions around north america kids don't fail they don't
00:45:23.380 fail classes they don't fill grades that leads to an interesting thing in a in days before we would
00:45:31.140 see the marks of students we would see where they were at and we would say jim you're never going to be
00:45:37.060 a lawyer right you're not going to be a doctor but you know what you're pretty good with your hands
00:45:41.620 why don't we get you situated with something that'll get you on the road to a career right
00:45:45.540 having a life they used to post our marks yes yeah they used to post it outside the classroom oh that
00:45:52.260 made me sweaty and i used to have to go look anything oh my goodness and and summer school
00:45:56.660 same yeah it was the most demoral one of the most demoralizing uh summers of my life um because i
00:46:04.420 used to work in the summer right with my dad and i used to really love it and enjoy it because i'd make
00:46:10.020 money and i'd hustle around i'd learn a lot and i liked being around the guys that were working with
00:46:14.580 them and then i had to forego that and i had to sit there with a bunch of we were a bunch of dum-dums
00:46:19.380 right and we were sitting in this summer school you probably taught a lesson like it taught me oh yeah i was
00:46:23.940 like i'm never coming back i don't want to be sure got me focused yeah yeah which is a great lesson
00:46:31.060 but again you know you're either going now he does talk about now he has something else car free school
00:46:38.100 streets which is this interesting so um basically uh it has streets you know how populated new york is
00:46:48.260 it has streets where families and kids can play and there's no cars it reduces pollution
00:46:55.860 you drop them off at the block and they walk to the school they walk to the school and then when
00:47:00.180 they come out they can interact and don't tell doug for that he would get upset yeah yeah but it's
00:47:05.140 an interesting thing for new york because you know it must be i always think about this i don't know
00:47:10.260 about you but when i was uh starting out and i was trying to raise money for my my business i i used to
00:47:16.980 get up early in the morning and i used to drive all the way into new york into manhattan and i used
00:47:21.780 to go and try to raise money for the whole day i used to go into the helmsley hotel um and i'd have
00:47:28.340 a suit and i'd pretend i was staying there and i'd have a little bag and i'd go into the public washroom
00:47:33.220 i go into a stall and i change into my suit when i got there and then i'd hustle all day will smith
00:47:39.620 and then i get in the car and i drive all the way back home all in one day
00:47:43.140 right and you know it is and it was it was a really interesting but i used to think to myself
00:47:47.540 when i started i said who the heck would want to live here i was other than central park i think
00:47:52.980 like unless you know no one could afford to live around there no yeah it's not for everybody yeah
00:47:57.860 i mean even americans can't afford to live around there the uh i was offered a job in new york city uh
00:48:03.300 with a uh a television show right and uh part one of the rules was you had to live within 10 minutes
00:48:10.420 of the production facility because the gentleman hosting the show may wish to do a bit or meet or
00:48:17.300 whatever at the drop of a hat the average this was almost 30 years ago now the average rental price
00:48:24.820 for a two-bedroom uh condo or apartment in manhattan was seven thousand dollars oh yeah oh yeah so and
00:48:33.380 i mean and not the nicest part of manhattan but creating that uh prohibitive experience
00:48:41.300 to people trying to break into the business or whatever is magnified by just not being able to
00:48:46.500 live there or be there many people have to get on the subway and head right out of town go to jersey
00:48:52.100 north of jersey north bergen even connecticut yeah just to be able to island yeah just to be able to
00:48:58.820 access that that uh those neighborhoods oh you know easy oh totally and then we're also thinking
00:49:04.500 i think often new york manhattan but all of the boroughs have really nice neighborhoods frankly oh
00:49:11.460 yeah they can be saved well brooklyn's become the hot area yeah that's become the cool area to live
00:49:16.820 there now right it is yeah yeah oh yeah for sure he uh a couple more things just i wanted to highlight
00:49:23.460 because he's he's got a ton of climate uh issues you know of course climate protection uh uh lgbtqia
00:49:34.820 um protections so he did to win the election i think he did a uh good job of catering to that group um
00:49:42.420 which i don't think anyone was listening to him under the eric adams you know so so basically you know uh
00:49:48.500 trying to find uh them jobs trying to get them government jobs that was a initiative that he
00:49:54.660 talked about quite a bit um health care so which i don't think he can do anything about but he did
00:50:01.060 actually talk about health care quite a bit uh getting insurance programs in place for people in
00:50:05.780 new york the health care in new york city is actually not too bad to tell you the truth the
00:50:10.660 hospitals i'm sure for the very poor but overall the programs and the the health facilities in the u.s
00:50:16.980 uh i have to say having spent time in both places are pretty nice like compared to what we go through
00:50:24.500 affordability becomes yeah the problem at some point and that's why he was trying to get insurance
00:50:29.540 programs in place that's what he's saying he will do for the lower income people he's actually reacting
00:50:34.980 to a health care issue that all of america uh you know obamacare is i don't know that it's really
00:50:41.540 working and so many large cities have been left with this huge scale problem of health and uh at
00:50:49.540 least it sounds like he's trying to deal with it at a localized level yep no he is labor right so a lot
00:50:56.260 of unions so catered he hit the unions really hard so he got a lot of union support which i didn't think
00:51:01.940 he would um a lot more and basically you know he is for organized labor uh and he does talk about it
00:51:09.300 quite a bit um getting people's minimum wage to 30 dollars by 2030. an hour an hour yeah an hour
00:51:17.620 americans would go bananas right you know i remember and you know i traveled a lot when i was living in 0.74
00:51:22.420 the u.s you know different projects yes you know i remember i remember being in like florida and people
00:51:28.100 who were in the service business getting four dollars an hour and that's not a long time ago no and tips
00:51:34.500 they were in heist but yeah they were basically paid nothing paid nothing and made tips but seriously
00:51:39.620 who is he going to get 30 an hour through i don't know that's what he championed unions
00:51:44.500 so it sounds to me like he's done alliances with the unions leading into this that they're going to
00:51:48.820 go fight at the at the union level for these wages and he'll back them and if that's the case
00:51:55.060 that's how you get you guys to vote well we're so what are we at now minimum wage 20 um 23 20.
00:52:02.340 in it's about 22 23 canadian yeah i think it is what year are we 2026 yeah so where are we going
00:52:08.980 to be by 30. uh yeah we might be a couple dollars short but it's i thought that was very interesting
00:52:15.460 because he's talking about a similar but 30 us uh with the exchange is what like 35 canadian yeah but
00:52:22.420 don't forget like you know the when you're living there it's the same like you know you're not trying
00:52:28.420 you're not procuring services of cross borders yeah you're actually just living there so the 30
00:52:32.900 dollars with you running the business is really 30 and it's bagel on the coffee yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:52:37.860 so but i you know i thought that was it but i'm looking and i'm thinking wow he's kind of like we're
00:52:42.180 there like we're because you know i go through with the businesses you know every i get that notice you
00:52:46.660 know hey in a in 90 days you're gonna have to increase a dollar 50 50 cents you know so i don't have
00:52:53.700 a choice you know i just wake up in the morning i'm like okay you know payroll just jack everyone
00:52:58.260 up and uh that's because the law has been passed the law has passed right so we do that as politicians
00:53:03.300 now i think it's interesting because the things that you've you've essentially already gone through
00:53:10.020 in his platform yeah it sounds really like canadian socialism to be honest with you in many ways
00:53:16.260 it sounds like a very liberal uh approach to running a city but certain media members
00:53:22.820 use terms and put spin on it to make it sound like it's some evil thing that he's trying to do
00:53:28.100 that's part of the problem that is problematic i can see that being because there is nothing in
00:53:32.980 here that is so uh egregious or anything yeah such an offense to uh you know uh corporations or uh
00:53:43.940 capitalism in any way it just says look out for each other alongside this what a concept yep so this
00:53:50.980 is interesting so he he actually i don't know if he's done it i haven't checked today but he's
00:53:58.020 actually going to put regulation for delivery apps and protecting delivery workers oh yeah like amazon
00:54:05.220 and skip the dishes and stuff like that oh yeah remember we started doing that in covid we did yeah
00:54:10.980 yeah that's right so he's adopting it now so some of those policies about you know you have to give so
00:54:16.100 much of a percentage to them there's so many you know there's protections that you can't rip yeah
00:54:20.420 we shut down a lot of these delivery places uh during covid they were they were viewed as taking
00:54:25.060 advantage of uh the people delivering the people using the services and they did even out like yes
00:54:31.780 skip the dishes even uber as i recall got kind of leveled out and now of course uber seems to be
00:54:38.420 hard to believe it was six years ago covid basically started wow yeah uh lots of uh protections and help
00:54:46.100 in place for small businesses so again he was going for votes so he hit the you know when you
00:54:51.220 go to new york every corner has a pizza shop or a restaurant or something so smart he basically said
00:54:56.340 you know i'm gonna reduce your costs i'm gonna help you with insurance programs and everything he's
00:55:02.020 so he spent a lot of time with the small business networks in uh new york and you know this from your
00:55:06.980 time there new york people don't realize is a series of small little neighborhoods yeah like it's
00:55:12.260 those little pockets of this this culture this community this background so those little shops
00:55:17.460 really cater to the people that live there they also define new york for tourism for you know just
00:55:22.900 the spirit of what new york is every borough every neighborhood has its own flavor yeah definitely you
00:55:27.860 know then uh but he did you know he uh did a really good job i think of catering to that small group
00:55:35.780 one lady i did like quite frankly he did talk about libraries again no so protecting and bringing back
00:55:43.140 the library i'm a big fan of that me too and you know i thought that was really good so you know the
00:55:47.460 education he did spend uh i think his platform was solid on uh schools libraries some of the things
00:55:54.660 in his platform i really did enjoy reading but um and then the last thing he had in his platform was
00:56:00.740 trump proofing new york okay how do you do that trump towers right in the middle of manhattan that was
00:56:06.740 such a shot trump but you know but but the interesting thing is right right away you know it he met with
00:56:15.860 trump after being elected and they actually seemed to get along now i know he's since come out of you
00:56:26.180 know venezuela he was very uh you know uh open and uh against uh he there's some things he's kind
00:56:34.020 of already but he did say in that post discussion no our president and i are going to have problems
00:56:41.940 over time but it's not like we can't discuss them and i thought that's not a bad position so if you
00:56:49.220 talk to mayors in canadian cities they will say the same thing part of the balance with being a mayor
00:56:55.140 is you might have to deal with a premier or governor in america of one political
00:57:01.700 ideal ideology and ideas and then a president or prime minister who's different right you have to
00:57:08.340 be able to work with all of them for the betterment of your city because you may need provincial or
00:57:12.580 state money or federal money to to get the infrastructure you need for your city i would be
00:57:18.020 less shocked seeing this guy voted in in mississauga or toronto or ottawa than new york city i'm not going
00:57:27.700 to lie to you he feels like a very canadian approach to being a mayor he does he does and you know i think
00:57:35.060 lessons learned from this i think we you know this is the uh 2026 is a year that we have all the municipal
00:57:41.460 elections that's right yeah so you know on ending the show i just wanted to say you know one thing
00:57:47.140 that i always endorse i always ask people to do is read the policies of the person and the people
00:57:54.740 who are running for election they never do please so let's get away from these crazy pr campaigns where
00:58:00.980 we you know uh they were the mayor before so i'll vote them again they you know let's and don't let
00:58:07.060 statisticians tell you who's winning an election exactly exactly let's stay away so thank you guys
00:58:13.620 i really appreciate it thank you and uh look forward to talking more as municipal elections unfold uh guys
00:58:19.460 enjoy shoveling yourself out tonight thanks thanks