True Patriot Love - Mamdani In Focus

00:00:00.000 today on true patriot love we're going to dive in to the career and recent mayorship and election

00:00:12.160 of zoran mandami and what a day when he got elected to the city of new york

00:00:18.340 jim lang mike wickson welcome guys thanks so much hey i love these round tables you know

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00:00:58.620 list go go back and have a look today zoran mandami yeah you know i was a snowstorm here today yeah man

00:01:05.280 so i'm heading in and i'm thinking about you know snow plowing and of course all those things and the

00:01:12.800 city of new york popped into my head because i knew we were going to do the show and how your career in

00:01:18.920 new york is a mayor is so kind of on an edge you're you're dancing on a pin you handle a bad snowstorm

00:01:26.960 in new york city wrong as the mayor and you're done right well what about eric ed koch with the black

00:01:32.320 coat exactly remember that 70s right it was over that ended his career so now now you have this

00:01:39.020 democratic socialist which we'll talk about what that means because for canadians we're probably

00:01:44.180 saying what's a democratic socialist we can talk about that in a minute but now you have him running

00:01:48.980 the you know the biggest city or one of the biggest cities in the united states new york and uh

00:01:55.140 you know you look at it and you think to yourself how's that gonna go how's he gonna do and when i

00:02:00.660 started looking into his platform it was interesting because what i started off thinking is what the

00:02:06.020 mainstream media was telling me how bizarre his uh his platform is you know what i found no

00:02:14.180 i found a lot of his platform is very canadian it does it does reach beyond what normal government

00:02:22.260 involvement will be um it tends to shut down government involvement in places you don't expect

00:02:28.980 it to that we we do the same thing yeah and then it steps up on behalf of its citizens theoretically uh

00:02:36.660 to almost i i don't i can't think of another word right now almost baby society uh from the top

00:02:43.940 down but for a lot of americans that's something you oh no we can't do we can't do that we can't

00:02:48.980 help other people no no it's a it's a capitalist society yes you're everyone you're on your own

00:02:54.580 good luck yeah yeah yeah born born in uganda yeah right and his parents are he's a professor at

00:03:00.900 columbia his father and his mother is actually a movie producer oh okay okay american indian uh movies

00:03:09.860 she produces and she's won quite a few awards she's an award-winning uh film producer uh done

00:03:15.380 very well well in that world if you're a film producer i probably don't have to tell you guys

00:03:20.020 you know we have movies in in america and they're big deals and we have movie stars in america that

00:03:24.900 are big deals in asia south asia uh the movie stars are gods and the amount of people oh yeah that

00:03:33.460 follow them and adore these movies um it's a completely different level altogether so the

00:03:39.940 likelihood is he's had a pretty interesting life oh yeah they've seen a lot well to your point you

00:03:46.260 know they people go and they pray at the home of the movie stars yeah in india is that right there's

00:03:52.340 nothing for for them hundreds of thousands of people to show up on occasions and pray for the movie

00:03:57.940 stars huh yeah and it's interesting because uh you know as you watch it on uh you know youtube and

00:04:04.340 everything else it's really interesting so meanwhile jim's been a big bollywood star for years and he

00:04:08.740 doesn't even know i didn't even know people are looking at him funny and it's the cardigan now

00:04:13.380 it's not a cardigan it's a party card so now new york is being run by a democratic socialist what is

00:04:23.460 that paul okay time up before we get into it people are wondering okay why would america why

00:04:29.620 would new york city vote for him right the previous mayor eric adams leaves under a cloud oh yeah scandal

00:04:36.740 and suspicion and a lot of hard feelings so not only that but the city has diminished and disintegrated

00:04:43.780 in areas where it had huge opportunity for growth and really the city has crumbled in many ways but the

00:04:51.860 point is as an outside observer sometimes if the current politician is made you so upset and is in

00:04:59.620 your mind has made such a mess of things you know what why not give this person a try yeah yeah change

00:05:05.700 why not sometimes change happens yeah but think about the climate you know all over north america right

00:05:11.140 now uh housing affordability yeah youth who are over educated underemployed food food insecurity so you

00:05:18.660 have all these things that are the infrastructure is crumbling infrastructure is crumbling so you

00:05:22.500 think of all these things and when you look at it it does play into a socialist point of view quite

00:05:31.540 frankly so if i'm sitting there and i'm saying you know all you lazy people you get back to work and

00:05:35.940 you gotta you know live the capitalist dream and work as hard as you can and and they're like well i'm

00:05:41.700 trying to do that but i can't get a job i can't find food at a reasonable price i can't live anywhere so all my

00:05:48.420 basic necessities are out of my reach of course you're going to start to appeal and and quite

00:05:53.140 frankly you had a former mayor who you mentioned quite frankly uh uh investigated rated uh i think

00:06:00.820 he was indicted but not convicted like there was a kind of a number of things going on and he was

00:06:05.700 preoccupied with his own behavior there was a lot going on there right we know it's interesting

00:06:10.820 sorry capitalism makes sense right and and certainly in new york and america has made

00:06:15.860 great waves for many years with capitalism but it only works once your socialism and your social

00:06:24.500 state is in order and people aren't starving and rebelling in the streets and and polarized politically

00:06:30.020 and to that end gentlemen there are people now in north america not just new york city who have an

00:06:35.860 education have a job making decent money and are still struggling to make ends meet can't go on a

00:06:42.020 vacation eating basic food have a simple apartment because they simply can't afford anything more

00:06:47.540 they're like hey i did everything everyone told me i went to school i got a job and make decent money

00:06:51.860 and that's not enough put all that on steroids being in new york city right right right and right

00:06:56.660 you know so and they're really and when i looked into it there is a democratic socialist party of america

00:07:02.740 oh okay i didn't even know that quite frankly and that's he's part of it and there's 90 000 members

00:07:08.420 huh um and you know so i was like okay great you know i lived in america and i didn't even know there

00:07:13.140 was i've never heard of this so there is one uh they're highly active the democratic socialist agenda

00:07:21.060 is uh how do i say it it's run in uh areas or it's disjointed it's supposed to be they want it that way

00:07:28.900 so for economic uh democracy they believe that they shouldn't have a a co-join nationwide

00:07:35.700 uh platform huh so they have platforms by areas because every area has a different need yes

00:07:42.660 that actually sounds really reasonable the way they look at it so so it's interesting so they

00:07:47.300 have kind of a different approach but it is really based on economic uh democracy so they still believe

00:07:54.580 in democracy and of the economy votes everything else um but they want uh basically employer self

00:08:03.540 management so you they want people to have their ability to self-manage them size uh and they

00:08:09.620 basically want uh workplace democracy so a lot of dei type of things right you know when you look at his

00:08:18.180 platform um and and that's what they believe in so you see it coming through when you see his actual

00:08:24.020 platform but but that there is an association it is a group of people and so he did have a backing

00:08:30.500 going into it i don't know what the who and how much money the platform actually generated what's

00:08:36.180 a small group of people 90 000 constituents uh once again though when you say that they really

00:08:43.540 localize their approach it doesn't take that many people focused on a localized issue to get

00:08:51.540 change to happen i mean look in toronto i hate to draw the comparison but our last election

00:08:57.460 for america toronto was not a huge divide yeah you know several thousand votes would have made the

00:09:02.820 decision the other way okay so great example today the snowstorm the finch west lrt the multi-billion

00:09:10.260 dollar brand new light rail system can't run because of the weather it's not running today because

00:09:16.340 of the weather so if you're in new york city what do you basic needs is my subway running is someone

00:09:22.340 picking up my garbage you know like you just want to be able to get is olivia chow having a rough 1.00

00:09:27.380 day is that what you're saying oh my god well let's talk about that so we have a mayor in toronto

00:09:33.380 right so uh zoran's platform right so the first thing he hit on was rent freezes yeah remember rent

00:09:41.140 freezes of course yeah we were big how many years did we have rent freezes here it was a big it was a

00:09:46.020 constant it was something toronto was known for yeah exactly so we went years with it it's not

00:09:50.180 something that's foreign to canadians right i don't know where uh it went i guess it just honestly

00:09:55.780 i'm trying to think of the history of it but well i think that it was a john tory got rid of over the

00:09:59.700 last decade yeah yeah over the last decade of so or so it has wound down and it's almost you know it's

00:10:05.940 swung back the other direction in favor of you know increases uh with regularity yeah but now we do

00:10:12.740 have a we do have a law and a system and it's regulated how much your rent can increase and so it is

00:10:18.980 very much in line with that so he want what he wants to do is he wants to go into the housing

00:10:23.780 units that are designated for low rental we call it low rental and he basically wants to put rent

00:10:29.620 freezes on them i mean new york city that's one way to actually keep it semi-affordable i mean you hear

00:10:36.660 horror stories about people in a studio apartment paying three thousand dollars us a month well that's

00:10:42.900 not unusual it makes places like manhattan uh you know and other boroughs that are fairly sizable it

00:10:49.060 makes them more of a transient population because you go there to do a job you can no longer afford

00:10:54.260 to live there and then you must move on to a different part and you're commuting further

00:10:58.260 revealed yeah but it's very interesting you know we do this on the housing show um and yesterday uh

00:11:04.740 doug ford even came out in ontario and he originally we were designating so much for affordable housing so

00:11:11.620 any any uh person who lives so many meters i think it's 800 meters from a subway station right

00:11:17.860 uh they could build apartment buildings and quite frankly he was designating so many of those uh units

00:11:23.940 to affordable he took that off he did he removed it yesterday so basically you can just build a

00:11:31.780 apartment building with no low rental no affordable so the the excuse they used to get developers back to

00:11:37.860 work really because in toronto we have a certain stagnating market at the moment was to say we're

00:11:42.500 going to do this for housing for affordability but now that's gone entirely but the funny thing is all

00:11:49.220 the programs for for apartment buildings are still in place so you can still go get low interest money

00:11:55.140 and everything to build the same building but now you don't have to put anyone with affordable housing

00:12:00.500 needs into those buildings how does that help the community essentially quite frankly the the whole

00:12:06.340 initiative went bust so mondani's idea it was an interesting idea probably why it phased out over

00:12:13.060 time is the more you created these divisions of low rental housing or you know subsidized housing or

00:12:20.180 rent freezes you just cause developers not to build them yeah they become unaffordable for a developer to

00:12:26.980 get involved inflation is catching up on his maintenance costs he can't maintain the buildings and then the

00:12:31.780 next you know the next thing he did he did a crackdown he wanted to do a crackdown on bad landlords

00:12:36.900 where basically you know they're right before that who wouldn't be for that it's a it's a great idea

00:12:41.700 but you know combining the two together is a little dangerous because now you have a rent freeze and a

00:12:45.860 bad landlord so then it really makes developers really uh you know or even landlords there have been

00:12:51.620 horror stories across the country vancouver oh yeah like every city has got these landlord horror stories

00:12:57.700 and people are struggling to get just a decent place with running water i think for existing

00:13:03.300 buildings buildings jim i totally agree with you yeah so like i think his idea is a good idea but

00:13:08.420 getting new building but to get new buildings in place it actually really costs because once you put

00:13:12.900 that in then people are like i don't want to go through that okay and then because now i got money

00:13:16.420 i'm putting locking my money up for 50 years in this rental building it has so many low rental units

00:13:21.780 now i'm you know what he wants to do is if you don't fix it the city will oh so if if you because

00:13:29.060 new york has well we were just talking about it before the show you know you go one block off fifth

00:13:34.100 avenue and you're in a run baby you're in the wrong side of the tracks exactly so you know that's

00:13:38.900 thousands of buildings that they would be sending government maintenance groups in to fix problems

00:13:44.740 and the bill that these people own the buildings um a lot of people own the buildings don't even live in

00:13:51.780 the united countries yeah so quite frankly it's just getting the bills paid that he's trying to

00:13:56.740 it's an interesting concept it's really hard to enforce um but but it is i think it's a conceptually

00:14:03.380 do i like that i do like i do well yeah i think older buildings that's good for society but once again

00:14:10.180 a lot of the first two things you've discussed already are management nightmares how do you enforce

00:14:17.620 this how do you go after so many people in such a short period of time unless he's doing outstanding

00:14:22.900 he's got four years to make this happen right so is it a reality i mean just staffing alone think

00:14:29.460 about the logistics with all the apartments in new york city in the boroughs uh trying to get the the

00:14:36.260 trades people to all the buildings some of those buildings were built over a hundred years ago and so

00:14:42.420 the infrastructure needs constant they have infestations that have infestations yeah seriously

00:14:48.420 and you know that's the other thing you know you send your own crew in to start tapping into someone

00:14:52.260 else's building yeah then you have lawsuits over you're causing damage oh 100 new york they sue each

00:14:57.620 other like every second so interesting concept not sure it has you know conceptually great practical no

00:15:06.180 right so next thing he came up with of course is something we talk about which affordable housing

00:15:11.780 which you hear all the time now uh and you know he wants to build more affordable housing units but

00:15:16.820 what what does affordable housing mean in new york city what's their definition because i hear that

00:15:22.980 in canada affordable housing and i drive by the signs starting at this price i'm like i don't know

00:15:30.260 anyone that can afford that well also i mean well new york is the most expensive place in america i'm

00:15:36.260 guessing to live yes so if you're already there you need to ask yourself the question if you can

00:15:42.340 afford to be there because otherwise affordable living is not maybe for a city like manhattan or

00:15:50.580 many of the boroughs in new york or toronto or many of the gta uh because i hear that buzzword

00:15:57.300 affordable housing at all levels of politicians gentlemen and i'm like should you be able to afford a

00:16:03.380 house on par an apartment on park avenue no jim i'm sorry you shouldn't no right but but maybe

00:16:09.620 there's a pocket where you could well so i guess but is that necessary i don't know people have to

00:16:16.740 live somewhere i think he did you know and reading his platform which points in times on affordable

00:16:23.460 housing got a little fuzzy because he wants to do he wanted to do he wants to do 200 000 new units over 10

00:16:28.660 years wow so uh and i think you know very ambitious um and i think he had started to look at the

00:16:38.100 european model for doing it which we did a show and we talked about this affordable housing in europe

00:16:44.100 and affordable housing in north america are two different things i think we're catching up to where

00:16:47.860 they are already left they've been there um what they do and it's a more strategic model is they take

00:16:54.260 a percentage of people's income they work backwards and they work out the business model for building

00:16:59.460 the units so if you make 50 000 it's based on your 50 000 yeah what can be built to house you oh based

00:17:06.420 on your okay so they run it like a real strategic model in in europe and in different places so smart

00:17:13.060 yeah it is smart and quite frankly we haven't got there we talk about it you know i did a show and

00:17:17.860 we're not really that truthfully right now we're not that uh sophisticated we're not that interested

00:17:24.180 in doing affordable housing or we would really be reacting yeah we're not it's just it's a it's a

00:17:28.340 buzzword politically we throw around but we we aren't they they actually go through and do the exercise

00:17:32.980 of looking at say 30 percent of your income going to shelter and then they work back and then they come

00:17:38.340 up with what the each unit will cost and then they figure out an engineering uh to figure out how they'll

00:17:43.700 build it how much government uh sustenance needs to go into that exactly okay so they they have a

00:17:49.300 structure he's starting to talk about it he doesn't get into it but he is he he's he's he's educated you

00:17:56.260 can tell when you're reading his stuff he he's been around the world and he's seen different models and so

00:18:02.020 yeah you know you see him and you're like okay that probably he's gonna land on it somewhere here

00:18:07.140 so but i don't know but we can't be so arrogant guys to think that north america has the only

00:18:12.820 solution to these problems there are other countries around the world and other cities

00:18:17.940 who come up with different solutions say putting retail and a grocery store or a coffee shop in

00:18:23.620 the main floor building up from it and make you know it's interesting uh uh king charles uh created

00:18:29.620 a plan called uh poundbury uh in the uh cornwall states in in um in england and people they slagged

00:18:37.620 him for why is the prince out there at the time he was a prince why is he out there pretending

00:18:42.500 to be a developer architect and what he actually did was very well educated they created this mix of

00:18:50.500 all different sites sizes of uh abodes uh all different kinds of pricing associated with it

00:18:57.140 they built the grocery stores yes uh stuff over top they made it possible to have mixed density in

00:19:02.820 certain areas and what you don't see in poundbury is the low rent housing area and the rich area yeah it

00:19:10.100 just doesn't lay out that way there are some streets that are and some streets that aren't but

00:19:14.420 by and large they created a mix where so smart you're a rich guy and i'm a middle class guy and

00:19:20.260 our kids go to school together and they actually live on the same street that's a good thing and

00:19:24.900 it's an amazing community that's been built around this and i i i think that he's seeing models like

00:19:30.900 this that are working i think so and you know his next thing was safety and crime yeah which is big in

00:19:36.100 new york big in new york big here so quite frankly and probably the housing initiative leads into the

00:19:42.660 crime initiative i think so so you know like i remember years ago when i had a business and was

00:19:48.180 in the u.s uh was in baltimore and they had row house after row house after row house and you just

00:19:53.860 would drive through them and you think yourself how that can this not cause crime well there's no way

00:19:59.460 people could live here and not be involved in some criminal mike tyson talks about where he grew up in the

00:20:05.060 in a housing project in brooklyn and how everyone was involved in crime because it was such a

00:20:10.740 i mean i mean that happens you stick poor people in a poor area and give them no hope and no option

00:20:17.860 with that much density yeah it's bad things will happen it's just natural right so

00:20:23.700 he he does get it now he talks about crime he's again uh democratic socialist he's talking about crime

00:20:30.980 from mental health and counseling perspectives so he's not talking about more police he's talking

00:20:36.420 about the fact that uh you know we need to put more mental health people into play and figure out why

00:20:42.580 we have so many street people figure out why we have so many is you know new york is overrun with yeah you

00:20:48.100 know uh homeless people people asking for money beggars yeah so they're all over the city so he's really

00:20:55.380 trying to say we got to get a mental health program here kind of like a jeff wilson is you know an

00:21:00.820 outbreak yeah jeff wilson by the way you can go back and take a look at previous episodes he's been

00:21:05.940 focused on uh the bird flu outbreak but yeah really what he talks about is uh outbreak response and how to

00:21:14.260 handle it and this is an outbreak fentanyl these new drugs uh the the difficulty in getting into programs

00:21:22.420 and getting off the street just keep compounding we're seeing it here in canada and then we saw

00:21:28.180 alberta we saw calgary oh yeah take real steps they they brought the police the mental health people

00:21:34.100 and the actual health community the hospital together and they did a massive sweep of you're

00:21:41.620 getting off the street uh now they they did it by force but the results were instantaneous and they've

00:21:48.580 been somewhat long lasting by the sounds of things too often you're taking young police officers and

00:21:55.300 giving them the call the wellness check which is someone with a mental health issue so they have

00:22:01.140 minimal training that's not what they signed up for and they're dealing with someone with a severe

00:22:06.580 mental health issue not viewed as a mental health expert by the community shows up you right and you

00:22:12.020 hear all these incidents and i feel wait a sec we're putting the police officers in a horrible situation

00:22:18.020 why not send them along with someone who's a mental health expert who maybe is more trained to deal

00:22:23.860 with the situation did you see that i don't know if you saw it last week the thing in montreal with the

00:22:28.740 uh subway with the mentally unstable guy outside this yes yes oh my goodness was that terrible so 0.84

00:22:35.700 this guy's you know going off his rocker he's he's out of his tree uh he's dancing around on the steps

00:22:42.100 of the subway 30 police officers show up so they're trying to figure out to taser him or whatever to

00:22:50.500 do and in the middle of it he's in the middle of the street two police cars come and they i don't know

00:22:56.340 what they were thinking they were gonna sandwich him anyways he jumped out of the way and they crashed

00:23:01.700 into each other and then finally they taster taster him and got him down there had to be 50 constables

00:23:10.100 on the scene by the end of it is that a colossal waste of resources for one person one homeless guy

00:23:16.420 who's out of his tree and they're sitting there putting 50 officers into play and really look like

00:23:23.060 the keystone cops at the end of it they're smashing into each other jumping on it was just really badly

00:23:29.220 where you have a mental health professional on the lead with the police sort of of offering support

00:23:34.980 like you used to see in the movies they might know the right things to say and try to talk them down

00:23:38.900 get them into you know hey that's or at least say to the police no no tase him we're not getting

00:23:44.500 anywhere yeah yeah at that moment they have that's his call then right yeah exactly that's or her call

00:23:49.620 saying hey i've lost control the situation we need and then you're like okay then you have some

00:23:54.500 direction yeah if you if somebody's a medical health professional there and understands what the

00:23:58.260 reaction to the drug the alcohol or or the uh the uh mental issue yeah they might better advise the

00:24:04.580 police at that moment yeah i felt bad actually they got it on tape i was actually oh wow i wish

00:24:08.900 they didn't record this because it makes these guys look really i'm sure they weren't sitting at

00:24:12.740 i'm sure their family was kind of getting a kick out of it they were kind of again the officers

00:24:17.700 for that yeah no it wasn't good wasn't good next thing he had which uh we spent a lot of time

00:24:22.740 pre-show on city owned grocery stores right sounds like a wild concept doesn't it i just don't trust

00:24:31.860 the city to run anything that well of any city yeah it's been my experience it's the city can do

00:24:37.780 certain things like uh you know mow the soccer fields and plow the roads and pick up the garbage

00:24:43.860 and outsource that they actually can't really do that themselves so i don't quite trust them to run

00:24:49.780 a grocery store they will outsource it paul mark our words on this one no but they want to sell

00:24:54.820 uh wholesale foods yeah uh and their goal is to get it to people who need food and to move people

00:25:05.300 i guess off food banks into buying food at a more reasonable price i don't hate this idea to be honest

00:25:12.660 you know what i don't either uh uh food banks get abused tough to manage tough to make again great

00:25:21.460 idea however food stamps was the the precursor to this right oh boy government cheese was another so

00:25:28.420 that became a corrupt very corrupt uh bit of business and it became messy to take away

00:25:34.420 uh it still exists in many places but that's essentially this is like somewhere between food bank

00:25:41.460 and shopping at walgreens let's say in the states is there a good point to having that transitional

00:25:48.180 phase where you're actually being required to buy food and will it be different than the food bank

00:25:55.540 or hear me out can we maybe put uh rules in place where the companies own the grocery stores aren't

00:26:04.580 um marking up items with two ridiculous profit margins so basic items butter milk bread eggs are

00:26:13.780 sold at a reasonable price we just had a bread lawsuit in canada we price fixing over bread can you

00:26:21.220 imagine over bread yeah i know they're boring so maybe just say the five or six staple items are sold

00:26:29.220 at a reasonable price that could help yeah it is a good idea and you know we we had commissions we we

00:26:35.700 had committees commissions we have a charter now which really doesn't help it doesn't stop them from

00:26:42.740 selling stuff at expensive prices and having the most profit in the last 10 years oh crazy profit you

00:26:49.220 know and we we really you know now with alcohol going to grocery stores and pharmacies and everything

00:26:55.700 else we've loaded up these companies really with the ability to be non-competitive for new entrants

00:27:02.580 so now well they're too big they're too big now so so okay say you you put in a government grocery

00:27:08.260 store how do they compete when they when you go to the one store and there's the food there's your wine

00:27:14.180 and beer there's your pharmacy i got everything in one store they will compete because so this is

00:27:20.340 interesting and we had this conversation uh at home the other day it's interesting how we're starting

00:27:26.100 to shop and i think it's it reminds me of back when i was in my 30s we used to go from grocery store to

00:27:33.940 grocery store store to store depend on what we were buying so we bought our vegetables here our meat here

00:27:38.900 right so we're back to that again so like as we move around in a week we're like okay let's go there

00:27:44.420 because it's got the freshest meat at the best price let's go here because the vegetables are good and

00:27:49.460 it's reasonable and so we kind of have that that route we do in the week where we hit different

00:27:54.100 stores now so i think where they've our grocery stores here in canada right now you know the the

00:28:01.140 pseudo monopolies we've given them i think where they've overplayed their hand a little

00:28:05.540 is people are going to go back to that model so and and the more they push it the more they keep

00:28:11.060 though not adjusting the prices to be reasonable i think it forces people down so the wholesale

00:28:16.580 government-run grocery stores you you will get people in new york who along their path will go

00:28:21.860 there and get their canned goods or they'll get their whatever yeah you know i think it would i

00:28:25.860 think conceptually it's an interesting idea putting it in practical i think it has its flaws and i think

00:28:33.140 it'll end up just being as corrupt as food stamps were so i don't think it's i don't think at the end

00:28:37.620 of the day and and that's my that's my issue is that in theory like i agree with everyone here

00:28:42.500 yeah oh that's me but you have to like at the execution so you don't have that corruption

00:28:48.100 it sounds very difficult yeah and then you have to get the distribution the how do you figure out

00:28:52.500 who's allowed who's allowed to use it yeah shelving space yeah how do you determine yeah who's eligible

00:28:57.780 to use it right well i think everyone is in his what he's saying in his everyone in new york yeah

00:29:02.420 everyone it's basically you know it grows though they'll be gigantic at the end of them because quite

00:29:08.020 frankly it will be the next costco's now and does that put does that actually put the other

00:29:13.220 grocers out of business i don't know you don't know what the concept you know what it's going to

00:29:17.700 do it's going to take the um availability of product in those stores that's similar to the or

00:29:23.060 there's going to be new products created that are made specifically for that uh government grocery

00:29:29.220 scenario and i don't think that you'll you'll find less of those products available in the stores

00:29:36.020 that you shop in now so if it's the canned goods maybe it won't have the same selection

00:29:40.100 yeah or they're just going to adapt and lose a little bit of profit yeah well but it's interesting

00:29:46.180 you know we this one was kind of when i heard i'm like oh no forget that's a terrible idea you know

00:29:51.540 then when i started reading through what he's saying i get what he's saying you know again conceptually

00:29:55.860 but it just won't work and it's interesting you're looking at all these items that we're talking

00:30:01.220 about you know we're not finished the platform yet but parallel ours like all these issues we're

00:30:08.260 talking about you know new york city's talk so it's interesting i'm reading and i'm kind of going

00:30:12.980 through and i'm like oh we talk about that all the time vancouver montreal all the every big city in

00:30:17.700 canada has similar issues we're talking about food costs affordability housing rent controls we're

00:30:23.940 talking about landlords health issues yeah yeah what's really interesting is he's taking uh dramatic

00:30:31.460 steps like drastic steps to get in the way of these problems that we're complaining about here in

00:30:36.420 toronto well so i can't imagine olivia chow standing up and saying i'm going to actually take action we're

00:30:41.940 going to open up stores we're going to enforce this i don't know that's never even been mentioned no even

00:30:47.940 enforcing rent uh regulations in the city has been widely ignored think about who his mother is

00:30:56.660 she's a movie producer right so he you know we had this conversation jim you and i you know part of

00:31:02.340 the issue in politics you know you can win a whole campaign we saw it here recently in the federal

00:31:07.220 election you know you come up with one good slogan and one good elbows elbows up you unite a whole

00:31:13.300 country he united a whole city or he got enough people to vote him in for a whole city just by

00:31:20.500 taking what the basic issues in the city were laying out a platform you know based on a you know which

00:31:27.460 may never be practically able to deploy it smart politics so yeah smart politics so you know uh

00:31:34.020 interesting the way he did it um fighting corporate exploitation so this is this is very democratic

00:31:40.500 socialist and it's basically um putting a tax on uh the higher income earners uh yeah right so and

00:31:51.300 what do you think they'll do if that they put the tax in we got in no but right but so if he does the

00:31:58.020 high-end income earners will go well if the tax gets too high all this move to name the city or country

00:32:04.180 suddenly housing got more affordable in new york didn't it yeah you know that's the one thing if

00:32:08.740 you push a high tax bracket uh group out it doesn't necessarily make a big dent in the city

00:32:17.780 they are a small amount of people well we just did it right we just put a a home tax for homes above

00:32:24.020 three million dollars in toronto oh that's true yeah we just did it so we just we're actually ahead

00:32:28.580 of the game on this one yeah we're ahead of the game on him on this one and quite frankly also on this

00:32:33.060 one which i kind of misspoke a little bit he he spends a lot of time um making sure that advertising

00:32:39.620 and monopolies uh don't uh predatorily um advertise to the citizens of new york so in the states right

00:32:49.860 now i don't know if we uh have this as much here we probably do and i just don't know about it i don't

00:32:54.740 see it um you can buy anything on credit it's a very big thing in the states more so than here

00:33:00.500 so people buy pizza on credit well you mean like you're not talking credit card no uh so you uh

00:33:08.340 get it like a loan or you get a credit buy simple items yeah and so you pay over time so i can i can

00:33:14.500 sit there and i can order like a pizza and i can pay for my pizza over 15 months really yeah no i don't

00:33:20.980 think we have that here it's down i don't think so yeah they have that in the u.s if we do i'll buy lunch

00:33:26.020 so in the states they they've fractionalized there's a word i'm probably gonna use wrong

00:33:32.500 they fractionalized credit down to the most minute wow item of purchase right and so it's

00:33:38.660 caused a lot of new yorkers a lot of harm so what he's saying he's gonna ban some of the pricing or

00:33:45.140 some of the advertising on it make sure it's not totally predatory so the people know what they're

00:33:49.940 buying and how much a pizza is going to cost him fifteen hundred dollars in the end because after

00:33:54.100 fifteen months the pizza must cost what triple what they paid for yeah yeah oh yeah it's very

00:34:00.420 big in the states right now it's it's quite a bit it's actually i can see funding and financing being

00:34:05.460 built around this easily if you wanted an investor oh we're going to be able to oh yeah yeah okay so

00:34:11.620 that makes a lot of sense i had heard a story that on black friday in america they said a huge

00:34:16.900 percentage of the stuff bought was bought on credit i thought credit card but you're saying

00:34:21.300 was bought on credit credit yeah oh yeah with the retailer or the the supplier direct oh wow wow yeah

00:34:30.020 that can't be good no and you can see how people would be taken advantage of totally predatory right

00:34:34.740 and it really preys on a younger like our young adults the young the poor yeah yeah oh yeah for sure

00:34:41.140 you know they remember payday loans oh yeah yeah you don't see as much in the us anymore because they

00:34:45.700 just go right online and they get credit for everything and they're buying so i'm you know

00:34:49.300 i'm buying my groceries over 15 months i'm buying wow everything wow um no cost child care part of

00:34:58.020 his platform how can they pull that off we'll just daycare centers with no cost yeah so totally funded

00:35:03.860 by the city of new york yeah well you know our ten dollar a day yes so he doesn't want to do our ten

00:35:08.900 dollar a day he just wants to uh basically allow people to drop their children off uh and that's it

00:35:17.940 okay so uh pretty expensive to run for the city though yeah and it also seems to me that the quality

00:35:23.380 of what you're going to get for your kids i mean it hasn't been six weeks six weeks to five years i was

00:35:29.700 just looking up the okay but as you say the people in park avenue they're in such a different universe

00:35:34.820 their daycare probably looks like the ritz-carlton in montreal and salaro boulevard so they you know

00:35:40.180 well they're not going to use it take a look at what happens when you uh put a whole bunch of

00:35:44.900 government funding behind daycares like this and what happens minnesota is like on fire right now

00:35:52.500 because of it so what's the city going to do are they going to outsource balances are they going to

00:35:57.140 suddenly become educators in a realm that they haven't been before are they going to have to create a

00:36:01.460 new department of early childhood education because in theory it's safety security training

00:36:08.340 there's a ton of components or are they going to hand out checks to new yorkers and say pick your

00:36:12.820 own daycare because in theory like oh wow that's what a great thing for the people in new york but

00:36:17.620 also i'm thinking about the fraud in minnesota and the paul mike jim daycare who has no kids are

00:36:23.060 getting all this money every year yeah but that that to me that one to me sounds far-fetched genuinely

00:36:33.620 uh because well first of all we're seeing it implode but also it just seems yeah cost prohibitive right

00:36:40.820 birth rates are going down yeah so this is the kind of the you know the worldwide conundrum right

00:36:47.700 we're all kind of hearing about more and more now which we're going to hear about more over the next few

00:36:51.620 few years right people aren't having kids there's not a lot of incentive now it's expensive there's

00:36:59.460 great excuses to stop us he's trying to counterbalance it because quite frankly you know if and we're

00:37:07.300 seeing it now you know with all this stuff going on minnesota and everywhere else if they're reducing

00:37:12.420 their immigration their birth rates are going down the growth in the country it really does kind of

00:37:18.500 start to cap that country the growth right because uh no new people well you know i think that the

00:37:25.460 you know the planning overall in america just seems to be you know reduction of uh humans if i may be

00:37:32.180 honest with you yeah and i don't think birthright is something they talk about too much but once you

00:37:37.620 take 12 of the population away from america and don't replace it with new americans arriving in our

00:37:44.100 hospitals through birth how many years is it before it's on a decline that that can't be but they

00:37:50.980 haven't thought that through at all it doesn't feel like it and even in canada we do think about it a

00:37:54.900 little bit we do talk about yeah declining birth rates we do talk about aging populations our boomers

00:38:00.340 and stuff quite a bit it's a huge issue for canada right now we don't but it's discussed a lot yeah yeah

00:38:06.580 it's not something you hear trump talking about or any of the anybody in congress all that much no no well he

00:38:12.820 just i think he's you know i think he's thinking that quite frankly get rid of the people who came

00:38:17.700 and then people will naturally immigrate on a legalized basis right with with enough wherewithal

00:38:24.500 to go about existing americans will see a better hope for tomorrow yes for having a family okay so you

00:38:30.900 live in country fill in the blank and you see what's going on with ice what happened in venezuela the

00:38:36.420 threats to columbia and greenland how are you really that excited to sign up and immigrate there

00:38:43.700 oh no at this point especially if you have young children no you wouldn't want to go if you have

00:38:48.100 two young boys quite frankly there's no way you're immigrating right they might be you might go to 1.00

00:38:53.700 canada i'd be drafted yeah sure there's other countries you would go to but right now i it doesn't

00:38:59.620 seem like an appealing place to immigrate to no no definitely not he's shut that off so to mike's point you

00:39:05.860 know maybe it's just trying to get existing people to start you know having families and and you know

00:39:12.260 babies which frankly is really how a country creates heritage creates its own identity you

00:39:18.900 know uh we love toronto because we grew up here right and we want to participate in our community

00:39:24.100 because we grew up here we want it to be good like it was for us but okay so what he's talking about

00:39:30.500 you're a 29 year old male or female in the new york area you're still living at home because you're

00:39:38.100 struggling to save to live on your own how can you start thinking about family when you can't even live

00:39:43.700 on your own yeah that's it so you want to have that progression once upon a time you went to school

00:39:50.020 you're a certain age you lived in your own you met someone you started a family of you know by the mid

00:39:55.540 30s maybe you had a kid oh that ladder is broken yes that's big a big part of the problem we talked

00:40:02.020 about this recently too and i would imagine uh new yorkers have that same excuse we'll never be able to

00:40:07.780 afford a home okay none of us were ever able to afford a home jim did you wake up with money to go

00:40:15.540 and buy your house god no or did you have sleepless nights and uh sweaty moments for several years trying

00:40:22.820 to make that home happen decades right so the desire to put in that effort the desire to suffer

00:40:30.260 the desire to see an end game has been eliminated by the market telling us homes aren't worth as much

00:40:37.060 us is hearing that as well that we'll never be able to have a family or afford this

00:40:42.180 okay so you're told that enough you start to believe it i don't need a home i guess yeah

00:40:45.940 i'm happy in my little condo or staying right here with mom and dad we get along just fine it's a nice

00:40:50.660 basement no it's really laundry's good mom put in new shag did you have the cannoli it was excellent

00:40:55.860 it was so good and a sauce like that you don't get anywhere get out spoken like a true parent so

00:41:03.700 the next thing which is interesting it's called k-12 which they we've heard about this they have a huge

00:41:09.220 teacher shortage oh yeah yeah so they're short seven to nine thousand teachers right now and that many

00:41:15.940 yeah that heard this so it will be it's a program uh to launch community to classroom a new initiative

00:41:22.820 to train certify and hire new teachers um and basically they will uh try to get teachers trained

00:41:30.020 up and in classrooms so they and let's be serious a lot of places in new york you wouldn't want to be a

00:41:37.140 teacher no can i i may say something a friend of ours do you remember the white shadow guys yeah

00:41:44.260 so a friend of our family in the um in york region area went to queen's teachers college

00:41:52.420 worked one year as a teacher thought the students were so unruly decided not to go back and that is

00:41:59.300 a problem that a lot of young teachers are getting into it and realizing i can't handle these kids i don't

00:42:06.100 like it this is not for me emotionally mentally physically and they're not staying in the game

00:42:11.700 that's a problem that's a common one for education across north america well we we and i i think of 0.88

00:42:18.740 myself as a high schooler i didn't have a huge amount of respect i'm sure i was an idiot but i also

00:42:25.940 wasn't violent right threatening teachers and i i don't remember seeing much of that but i do

00:42:33.060 recall one of my friends recently telling me that in an altercation with a student in the inner city

00:42:39.140 the student got nose to nose and a switchblade a row between them and he was like how many more

00:42:45.700 years do i have to do but that would never we would never thought that when we were kids right

00:42:49.860 no and i think that is part of the problem for every major city in north america now not just new york

00:42:55.460 is finding people willing to put up with this to be a teacher yes well he talks about in in his

00:43:01.220 platform he does talk about this and he and he says it's time to create almost like uh student

00:43:07.380 teacher governance committees within the schools to try to address all the these uh mental and

00:43:13.620 physical issues that are going on so he he does talk about it in there and okay how to uh structure it

00:43:21.140 uh and again that's more again a democratic socialist that's kind of their democratic free self-management

00:43:28.260 he's right he's talking about them forming committees and figuring out how to regulate

00:43:32.180 their own schools he's saying so that no so that no one is really in control they're all in control

00:43:38.180 so they either want to be there or they don't want to be there so it's kind of the the the doctrine

00:43:43.300 that what's interesting because by high school let's say grade 10 grade 11 you either want to be there

00:43:51.700 or you don't want to be there yeah so if you don't go then go because at 16 you're legally allowed to

00:43:57.220 drop out correct yeah but you don't have to keep going at a certain work i guess at that point but

00:44:02.820 don't become a problem to society and that's the danger well and i i you know on our system here right

00:44:08.900 now i think our removal of trade schools in a big way was a real big mistake i think that was a terrible

00:44:15.700 mistake we have no trade whoever let that dissipate and it became a philosophy you know that go to

00:44:21.380 university guinness kids no you know i know it sounded a little bit it was a little bit tough and

00:44:26.900 i think we softened too much on that at some point we said oh everyone should have a chance you know

00:44:32.900 there should be a divide somewhere and quite frankly and when i went to school you were in the

00:44:37.540 i think the three or four year program or oh yeah yeah basically you know you you you either

00:44:45.140 went into the four year and that gave you a chance to go anywhere but if you went into the three-year

00:44:49.300 program you were going to trade school you were going to george harvey well here's something else

00:44:53.700 they don't do anymore kids don't fail yeah and i remember being in high school bailing a grade having

00:45:00.580 to go to summer school to get that credit because i needed the credit i grew up real fast realizing all my

00:45:06.500 friends are going to the beach or going on their bikes and i'm getting in the bus and spending a summer

00:45:11.620 day to get that credit because i was jerking around in school and so now it i know in ontario

00:45:17.860 and a lot of provinces and a lot of jurisdictions around north america kids don't fail they don't

00:45:23.380 fail classes they don't fill grades that leads to an interesting thing in a in days before we would

00:45:31.140 see the marks of students we would see where they were at and we would say jim you're never going to be

00:45:37.060 a lawyer right you're not going to be a doctor but you know what you're pretty good with your hands

00:45:41.620 why don't we get you situated with something that'll get you on the road to a career right

00:45:45.540 having a life they used to post our marks yes yeah they used to post it outside the classroom oh that

00:45:52.260 made me sweaty and i used to have to go look anything oh my goodness and and summer school

00:45:56.660 same yeah it was the most demoral one of the most demoralizing uh summers of my life um because i

00:46:04.420 used to work in the summer right with my dad and i used to really love it and enjoy it because i'd make

00:46:10.020 money and i'd hustle around i'd learn a lot and i liked being around the guys that were working with

00:46:14.580 them and then i had to forego that and i had to sit there with a bunch of we were a bunch of dum-dums

00:46:19.380 right and we were sitting in this summer school you probably taught a lesson like it taught me oh yeah i was

00:46:23.940 like i'm never coming back i don't want to be sure got me focused yeah yeah which is a great lesson

00:46:31.060 but again you know you're either going now he does talk about now he has something else car free school

00:46:38.100 streets which is this interesting so um basically uh it has streets you know how populated new york is

00:46:48.260 it has streets where families and kids can play and there's no cars it reduces pollution

00:46:55.860 you drop them off at the block and they walk to the school they walk to the school and then when

00:47:00.180 they come out they can interact and don't tell doug for that he would get upset yeah yeah but it's

00:47:05.140 an interesting thing for new york because you know it must be i always think about this i don't know

00:47:10.260 about you but when i was uh starting out and i was trying to raise money for my my business i i used to

00:47:16.980 get up early in the morning and i used to drive all the way into new york into manhattan and i used

00:47:21.780 to go and try to raise money for the whole day i used to go into the helmsley hotel um and i'd have

00:47:28.340 a suit and i'd pretend i was staying there and i'd have a little bag and i'd go into the public washroom

00:47:33.220 i go into a stall and i change into my suit when i got there and then i'd hustle all day will smith

00:47:39.620 and then i get in the car and i drive all the way back home all in one day

00:47:43.140 right and you know it is and it was it was a really interesting but i used to think to myself

00:47:47.540 when i started i said who the heck would want to live here i was other than central park i think

00:47:52.980 like unless you know no one could afford to live around there no yeah it's not for everybody yeah

00:47:57.860 i mean even americans can't afford to live around there the uh i was offered a job in new york city uh

00:48:03.300 with a uh a television show right and uh part one of the rules was you had to live within 10 minutes

00:48:10.420 of the production facility because the gentleman hosting the show may wish to do a bit or meet or

00:48:17.300 whatever at the drop of a hat the average this was almost 30 years ago now the average rental price

00:48:24.820 for a two-bedroom uh condo or apartment in manhattan was seven thousand dollars oh yeah oh yeah so and

00:48:33.380 i mean and not the nicest part of manhattan but creating that uh prohibitive experience

00:48:41.300 to people trying to break into the business or whatever is magnified by just not being able to

00:48:46.500 live there or be there many people have to get on the subway and head right out of town go to jersey

00:48:52.100 north of jersey north bergen even connecticut yeah just to be able to island yeah just to be able to

00:48:58.820 access that that uh those neighborhoods oh you know easy oh totally and then we're also thinking

00:49:04.500 i think often new york manhattan but all of the boroughs have really nice neighborhoods frankly oh

00:49:11.460 yeah they can be saved well brooklyn's become the hot area yeah that's become the cool area to live

00:49:16.820 there now right it is yeah yeah oh yeah for sure he uh a couple more things just i wanted to highlight

00:49:23.460 because he's he's got a ton of climate uh issues you know of course climate protection uh uh lgbtqia

00:49:34.820 um protections so he did to win the election i think he did a uh good job of catering to that group um

00:49:42.420 which i don't think anyone was listening to him under the eric adams you know so so basically you know uh

00:49:48.500 trying to find uh them jobs trying to get them government jobs that was a initiative that he

00:49:54.660 talked about quite a bit um health care so which i don't think he can do anything about but he did

00:50:01.060 actually talk about health care quite a bit uh getting insurance programs in place for people in

00:50:05.780 new york the health care in new york city is actually not too bad to tell you the truth the

00:50:10.660 hospitals i'm sure for the very poor but overall the programs and the the health facilities in the u.s

00:50:16.980 uh i have to say having spent time in both places are pretty nice like compared to what we go through

00:50:24.500 affordability becomes yeah the problem at some point and that's why he was trying to get insurance

00:50:29.540 programs in place that's what he's saying he will do for the lower income people he's actually reacting

00:50:34.980 to a health care issue that all of america uh you know obamacare is i don't know that it's really

00:50:41.540 working and so many large cities have been left with this huge scale problem of health and uh at

00:50:49.540 least it sounds like he's trying to deal with it at a localized level yep no he is labor right so a lot

00:50:56.260 of unions so catered he hit the unions really hard so he got a lot of union support which i didn't think

00:51:01.940 he would um a lot more and basically you know he is for organized labor uh and he does talk about it

00:51:09.300 quite a bit um getting people's minimum wage to 30 dollars by 2030. an hour an hour yeah an hour

00:51:17.620 americans would go bananas right you know i remember and you know i traveled a lot when i was living in 0.74

00:51:22.420 the u.s you know different projects yes you know i remember i remember being in like florida and people

00:51:28.100 who were in the service business getting four dollars an hour and that's not a long time ago no and tips

00:51:34.500 they were in heist but yeah they were basically paid nothing paid nothing and made tips but seriously

00:51:39.620 who is he going to get 30 an hour through i don't know that's what he championed unions

00:51:44.500 so it sounds to me like he's done alliances with the unions leading into this that they're going to

00:51:48.820 go fight at the at the union level for these wages and he'll back them and if that's the case

00:51:55.060 that's how you get you guys to vote well we're so what are we at now minimum wage 20 um 23 20.

00:52:02.340 in it's about 22 23 canadian yeah i think it is what year are we 2026 yeah so where are we going

00:52:08.980 to be by 30. uh yeah we might be a couple dollars short but it's i thought that was very interesting

00:52:15.460 because he's talking about a similar but 30 us uh with the exchange is what like 35 canadian yeah but

00:52:22.420 don't forget like you know the when you're living there it's the same like you know you're not trying

00:52:28.420 you're not procuring services of cross borders yeah you're actually just living there so the 30

00:52:32.900 dollars with you running the business is really 30 and it's bagel on the coffee yeah yeah yeah yeah

00:52:37.860 so but i you know i thought that was it but i'm looking and i'm thinking wow he's kind of like we're

00:52:42.180 there like we're because you know i go through with the businesses you know every i get that notice you

00:52:46.660 know hey in a in 90 days you're gonna have to increase a dollar 50 50 cents you know so i don't have

00:52:53.700 a choice you know i just wake up in the morning i'm like okay you know payroll just jack everyone

00:52:58.260 up and uh that's because the law has been passed the law has passed right so we do that as politicians

00:53:03.300 now i think it's interesting because the things that you've you've essentially already gone through

00:53:10.020 in his platform yeah it sounds really like canadian socialism to be honest with you in many ways

00:53:16.260 it sounds like a very liberal uh approach to running a city but certain media members

00:53:22.820 use terms and put spin on it to make it sound like it's some evil thing that he's trying to do

00:53:28.100 that's part of the problem that is problematic i can see that being because there is nothing in

00:53:32.980 here that is so uh egregious or anything yeah such an offense to uh you know uh corporations or uh

00:53:43.940 capitalism in any way it just says look out for each other alongside this what a concept yep so this

00:53:50.980 is interesting so he he actually i don't know if he's done it i haven't checked today but he's

00:53:58.020 actually going to put regulation for delivery apps and protecting delivery workers oh yeah like amazon

00:54:05.220 and skip the dishes and stuff like that oh yeah remember we started doing that in covid we did yeah

00:54:10.980 yeah that's right so he's adopting it now so some of those policies about you know you have to give so

00:54:16.100 much of a percentage to them there's so many you know there's protections that you can't rip yeah

00:54:20.420 we shut down a lot of these delivery places uh during covid they were they were viewed as taking

00:54:25.060 advantage of uh the people delivering the people using the services and they did even out like yes

00:54:31.780 skip the dishes even uber as i recall got kind of leveled out and now of course uber seems to be

00:54:38.420 hard to believe it was six years ago covid basically started wow yeah uh lots of uh protections and help

00:54:46.100 in place for small businesses so again he was going for votes so he hit the you know when you

00:54:51.220 go to new york every corner has a pizza shop or a restaurant or something so smart he basically said

00:54:56.340 you know i'm gonna reduce your costs i'm gonna help you with insurance programs and everything he's

00:55:02.020 so he spent a lot of time with the small business networks in uh new york and you know this from your

00:55:06.980 time there new york people don't realize is a series of small little neighborhoods yeah like it's

00:55:12.260 those little pockets of this this culture this community this background so those little shops

00:55:17.460 really cater to the people that live there they also define new york for tourism for you know just

00:55:22.900 the spirit of what new york is every borough every neighborhood has its own flavor yeah definitely you

00:55:27.860 know then uh but he did you know he uh did a really good job i think of catering to that small group

00:55:35.780 one lady i did like quite frankly he did talk about libraries again no so protecting and bringing back

00:55:43.140 the library i'm a big fan of that me too and you know i thought that was really good so you know the

00:55:47.460 education he did spend uh i think his platform was solid on uh schools libraries some of the things

00:55:54.660 in his platform i really did enjoy reading but um and then the last thing he had in his platform was

00:56:00.740 trump proofing new york okay how do you do that trump towers right in the middle of manhattan that was

00:56:06.740 such a shot trump but you know but but the interesting thing is right right away you know it he met with

00:56:15.860 trump after being elected and they actually seemed to get along now i know he's since come out of you

00:56:26.180 know venezuela he was very uh you know uh open and uh against uh he there's some things he's kind

00:56:34.020 of already but he did say in that post discussion no our president and i are going to have problems

00:56:41.940 over time but it's not like we can't discuss them and i thought that's not a bad position so if you

00:56:49.220 talk to mayors in canadian cities they will say the same thing part of the balance with being a mayor

00:56:55.140 is you might have to deal with a premier or governor in america of one political

00:57:01.700 ideal ideology and ideas and then a president or prime minister who's different right you have to

00:57:08.340 be able to work with all of them for the betterment of your city because you may need provincial or

00:57:12.580 state money or federal money to to get the infrastructure you need for your city i would be

00:57:18.020 less shocked seeing this guy voted in in mississauga or toronto or ottawa than new york city i'm not going

00:57:27.700 to lie to you he feels like a very canadian approach to being a mayor he does he does and you know i think

00:57:35.060 lessons learned from this i think we you know this is the uh 2026 is a year that we have all the municipal

00:57:41.460 elections that's right yeah so you know on ending the show i just wanted to say you know one thing

00:57:47.140 that i always endorse i always ask people to do is read the policies of the person and the people

00:57:54.740 who are running for election they never do please so let's get away from these crazy pr campaigns where

00:58:00.980 we you know uh they were the mayor before so i'll vote them again they you know let's and don't let

00:58:07.060 statisticians tell you who's winning an election exactly exactly let's stay away so thank you guys

00:58:13.620 i really appreciate it thank you and uh look forward to talking more as municipal elections unfold uh guys

00:58:19.460 enjoy shoveling yourself out tonight thanks thanks

True Patriot Love - January 24, 2026

Mamdani In Focus

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