True Patriot Love - Mark Carney’s World Tour – What Is Canada’s PM Actually Doing？

00:00:00.000 Hi, and thanks for being with us. This is TPL Media. I'm Mike, and I'm going to recommend right

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00:00:22.140 that. Well, let's see. While things are heating up here at home, we've got housing debates,

00:00:27.220 cost of living pressure, and political debate all over the place, people crossing the floor.

00:00:32.600 Our Prime Minister, Mark Carney, appears to be on what looks like, somewhat suspiciously,

00:00:38.620 a very enthusiastic global tour.

00:00:41.060 Now, it's diplomacy, but if you squint a little, it's also kind of a little bit of a world tour

00:00:47.040 of things that are not of concern to Canadians, and to talk with me more about that today,

00:00:53.100 our very own Paul Micucci.

00:00:54.260 Thanks for being here, Paul.

00:00:55.360 Thanks, Mike.

00:00:55.960 Now, I know that you have very little opinion on this.

00:00:59.520 Teehee, in fact, it's something that you and I have discussed since Carney took office

00:01:04.940 because he got on a plane almost the day that he took over.

00:01:08.080 Oh, yeah.

00:01:08.740 And it hasn't stopped, quite frankly.

00:01:10.740 And we keep getting the expense bill.

00:01:13.900 You know, they keep doing these articles all in the papers about how much it's costing per flight, per day.

00:01:19.800 And it's hundreds of thousands of dollars.

00:01:21.920 I saw a menu budget that was $90,000 for one trip between two places, someplace into Italy.

00:01:31.080 Yeah.

00:01:31.520 Wait till you get to Italy to eat.

00:01:33.040 Are you kidding me?

00:01:34.980 Well, you know, we've been on a little bit of a run now.

00:01:38.120 So coming end of February, India, Australia, then Japan.

00:01:43.760 And then today I woke up to find out he's going to be up in Yellowknife and then heading over to Norway.

00:01:50.460 way so he seems to think that um there's more trade there's more agreements to be done in these

00:01:57.600 places I struggle with what those are truthfully because we don't get a lot of details coming out

00:02:02.720 of these trips but you know I took a look so I went and I took a look and I said okay benefit

00:02:07.420 of the doubt India what do we do in exports to India in 2024 so that's the the data I pulled up

00:02:14.060 we did 21 billion in exports so you know we do 419 billion to the u.s every year very small amount

00:02:23.240 by comparison it's a small amount it's uh china is slightly ahead of india um then i said okay

00:02:29.000 then we go to australia australia trip i couldn't really figure out i don't know if we were chasing

00:02:33.200 kangaroos on that one but uh we only do three billion of exports to australia i have no idea

00:02:39.260 what we think we would be sending more of to australia now wait till we talk about the results

00:02:44.140 of that visit yeah so which i couldn't figure out yeah why we think um japan uh that was another one

00:02:50.940 i was a little shocked about uh but i did find out we do 14.9 billion in exporting to japan

00:02:57.580 which is more than i thought and then uh finally today norway uh which is 1.87 billion and you know

00:03:05.420 know i always take a look quite frankly because i know he has a home in the uk i know they spend

00:03:09.980 most of their time with his family there between uh new york and the uk they don't spend as much

00:03:16.440 time in canada um his whole family but in the uk we do a total of 20 billion in exporting to the

00:03:23.340 uk we spend a lot of time there's been a lot of trips to the uk yeah we don't do a ton of trade

00:03:28.260 um and the stuff we do is mostly in the financial sector which i'm so interesting how little

00:03:33.960 business most of the commonwealth nations do with the uk actually that always shocks me well there's

00:03:40.760 not a lot of business on it what is really what is happening in the uk right now finance real estate

00:03:48.120 no they they actually replicate canada in many ways in that regard they don't do a lot of resource

00:03:54.440 based manufacturing or they don't have a massive resource base to to draw on they have a lot of

00:04:01.640 they have a big population that relies mainly on the banks which by the way is where carney comes

00:04:06.440 from yeah okay so let's let's break this down a little bit sure let's see what he did okay so we

00:04:12.040 understand what we've already done right and i get the picture paul let me see if i've got this right

00:04:16.360 from you yep we do 400 plus billion dollars worth of business a year with the us and carney is out

00:04:22.680 there positioning these trips as replacing that business but to replace 400 billion dollars worth

00:04:28.840 of business overnight into new nations where we don't necessarily have the means the permits the

00:04:34.840 taxation uh modifications in place to make it happen quickly it does beg the question

00:04:43.400 is this really a good use of time yeah well my my personal opinion is no but quite frankly

00:04:51.320 you know we're 110 days out from july 1st that's the kind of the drop dead date on kuzma um you

00:04:58.440 know we've appointed a new ambassador of trade or a new representative we have dominic leblanc

00:05:04.840 going back and forth to washington um to me the priority would if i had to allocate my time

00:05:11.480 amongst critical issues in the country it would be almost to do it based on trade so i would take

00:05:17.160 proportion of trade by country and i'd spend a proportion of my time and i'd allocate it that

00:05:22.120 way that does not appear to be happening so quite frankly we spend we seem to be spending a an

00:05:27.720 ordered amount of time going to other places and most of the deals that i seem to be like you know

00:05:33.960 it's hard to glom what they're actually doing because you know we before the show we tried to

00:05:38.840 find a lot of these mous these they call them agreements now they're not agreements they're 0.98

00:05:44.200 just memorandums of understanding that he's doing with these countries and i'm you're trying to

00:05:48.680 figure out what exactly are we signing on to and they're mostly like you know we agree to work

00:05:54.520 towards we agree to cooperatively do this yeah but the you know the hard and fast language of trade

00:06:01.080 is not in those so i assume there's uh an ambassador or representative of canada that stays

00:06:07.560 behind and tries to firm these up um we're not hearing much about any of them being firmed up

00:06:13.160 you know a good example is we we heard when he went to india that india was going to take all

00:06:19.160 of our energy yeah that was the that was from the lips of the prime minister right we have an

00:06:26.200 excellent energy customer coming in right okay the what's the timeline how are we gonna how are

00:06:34.120 we gonna get uh oil and gas to india you know give me a uh a little bit of an inkling of how

00:06:41.560 that's going to happen but what we did find out coming back there was also agreements on education

00:06:47.080 yeah and exchanges and uh more students coming to go to school in canada we're going to free that up

00:06:54.580 uh ai discussions and clean energy i don't know what clean energy from india has to do with anything

00:07:01.340 but i guess there is something uh but that's we found basically we were going to end up paying for

00:07:07.000 so we got a lot of costs so the things that india signed with us are things we're going to be paying

00:07:13.320 for now the things that india wants from us are down the road are 10 years down the road so again

00:07:21.240 no point and this is this is kind of in my pet peeve on all this travel if we're doing agreements

00:07:27.640 that are 10 years out five years out even like i think we got to kind of put those on the long-term

00:07:33.000 initiative plan and start focusing on things that we're going to deal with after july 1st because

00:07:41.000 after july 1st if tariffs come in and kuzma goes down and we go to 15 across the board or whatever

00:07:48.040 the tariff across the board is we may see the trade with the us cut in half and if that happens

00:07:55.720 it has severe impacts on our economy and how are we going to counter uh i think of trump as a

00:08:02.520 negotiator so what i saw and and we can get into more detail i mean india alone okay 10 commercial

00:08:11.880 agreements come out but no contracts and a 2.6 billion dollar uranium deal so we're providing

00:08:20.120 uranium to india yeah okay we love to give it so it's interesting we love to and we call it uh

00:08:27.320 investments we love to go abroad and get people to invest back in canada which is great right

00:08:34.280 if they're in investing to set up a company pay taxes in company and you know employ people so

00:08:40.920 that all makes sense to me if you do it but if you're just coming to have countries take our

00:08:46.200 resources and take them back abroad and refine the mildom there i don't see any point of it at

00:08:53.560 this point i don't see what the point of giving deals to other people you know whether it be

00:08:58.760 uranium so if if power you know if power generation is something and of course india needs power

00:09:04.360 generation if providing uranium to india i guess it's great you know if canadians are uh if canadians

00:09:13.480 are the ones uh mining the uranium and shipping it and getting the benefit of it i think you know

00:09:20.680 have at it right but you know that's very unclear at this point it just strikes me that a uranium

00:09:27.480 deal being the biggest thing that comes out of that meeting doesn't doesn't feel right to me

00:09:33.320 it's that this is a dangerous mineral it can be used for power but it can be used for a shift of

00:09:40.280 power oh and so you know if that's our biggest offering okay but that one struck me as uh as

00:09:50.120 a 20-year arrangement that we're never going to see the end of and certainly carney doesn't have

00:09:54.680 to answer to and it looks like i went to india and made a deal australia was one that uh that

00:10:02.040 kind of got me so it looks to me like we have made a deal to push along billions and billions

00:10:11.720 of dollars worth of permitting on things like natural resources in canada permitting australia

00:10:17.880 to come here set up companies and mine for our minerals so essentially the deal is and it's not

00:10:25.560 of course it's not a deal it's an understanding is that we'll find a way to make it easier to

00:10:31.160 permit these companies to get down to mining so the question begs of itself we can't do that for

00:10:38.600 our own mining companies oh sure we can right we'll only do it for australia well so you know

00:10:45.100 the ring of fire is a good example right there's a huge ownership australian ownership private

00:10:49.620 business owners actually up in the ring of fire um you know you're going to provide easier access

00:10:56.660 uh infrastructure canadians are going to pay for to to go there um it's going to come out of the

00:11:03.700 ground it's going to go abroad uh there's going to be transfer payments quite frankly back and

00:11:09.300 forth between companies in australia and canada so the net net income tax impact for canadians

00:11:14.600 will probably be very minimal they'll provide jobs you know and it'll provide some infrastructure

00:11:19.860 and some you know indirect jobs well i think the infrastructure will be demanded by these

00:11:24.760 corporations coming in they're going to say we want the roads we need the infrastructure there

00:11:28.460 we need the power the you know the water all of this sort of stuff yeah that's going to be part

00:11:33.160 of the permitting i would imagine that that we're talking about so but are there but are there are

00:11:37.860 there development fees from those companies to access the minerals see that's that's my pet peeve

00:11:43.540 you know the day of we and we tried this we tried this with auto plants in the big three

00:11:48.580 bring your jobs here you know at least they sold their cars here right right minerals don't get 0.56

00:11:55.540 sold here minerals get shipped abroad and quite frankly they don't get refined here a lot of times

00:12:01.080 no they don't they just get you know put on a boat uh floated down back to australia they get

00:12:06.640 dealt with there they get sold there they get uh back on the commodities exchanges there they don't

00:12:12.340 have anything to do with canadian trade quite frankly and they these companies don't pay a lot

00:12:16.780 income tax yeah that's just so we create all this infrastructure to get all these companies in place

00:12:23.100 i just at this point given where we are with the u.s and i understood that you know in a global

00:12:29.020 economy i understand why but given the fact that the u.s has opted out of a global exchange

00:12:35.900 i don't know why we think we want to participate in a middle country exchange where we're shipping

00:12:43.260 our resources to another i just you know maybe you know they could explain it to me and i'd

00:12:49.020 understand it better but i've never had i've yet to find someone to give me a rationale that made

00:12:54.380 any sense to me on a ground level how that made any sense no i don't uh yeah okay so employment

00:13:01.820 but as soon as they're done mining then they shut it down and we were left with mining towns that

00:13:05.740 that are empty yeah um this one i don't even know how to address this japan i'm not entirely sure

00:13:13.800 paul what we did uh going to japan but i did get excited when i saw that there was an ev battery

00:13:19.740 deal on the table i thought great now we got a customer yeah now we're talking yeah yeah now we

00:13:27.460 got a reason to be here yeah that's not what they're talking about what they're talking about

00:13:31.840 is an exchange of mindshare and us getting minerals

00:13:35.580 that have been sold already to Japan

00:13:38.300 that we probably have in the ground here in Canada already.

00:13:42.560 And specialized taxation deals going back and forth.

00:13:47.880 And they're freeing up their supply chain

00:13:50.100 to actually send their rare earth minerals our way

00:13:55.080 to help us with our EV technology

00:13:58.160 and our energy expertise that they have.

00:14:00.940 Now, they do have, you know, Japan is a very interesting one because, for example, you know, light rail, there's some things they do really way better than we do.

00:14:12.160 I think it's good that our prime minister saw what high speed light rail looks like.

00:14:16.500 Exactly. So, you know, if we ever wanted to do that as an infrastructure project, connect, you know, Quebec and Ontario, for example, it's a unique opportunity.

00:14:25.980 i do agree and quite frankly having them come in and provide the engineering and expertise to

00:14:31.660 teach us here to build it with our aluminum steel and other things in country is probably a good

00:14:38.300 idea i didn't hear that i was hoping to hear that i didn't hear that i did hear cars and

00:14:44.140 ev batteries and everything else and i did hear a lot about uh energy exports again which

00:14:49.900 we have talked about that in the past but again that's this whole oil and gas can under what we

00:14:56.860 we've been going on we did another show we won't know till july if the alberta oil and gas pipeline

00:15:04.940 even is a go for a major project so we're still in that we're still sitting with alberta now we heard

00:15:10.140 the other day some good news in that some of the uh the uh climate and issues with the environment

00:15:18.220 had been taken off the table right so that was a very progressive step for alberta and for the

00:15:23.100 pipeline but you know now it's interesting because the timeline sped up we're 100 days to kuzma you

00:15:29.260 know we're seeing what's going on with the iran war gas prices so all those critical decisions

00:15:35.020 that you're going to cause some short-term very possibly some very harsh short-term pain for

00:15:41.500 canadians can't be mitigated by any of these projects so even if we do say okay japan we're

00:15:47.100 going to ship some oil and gas your way that's five years at best maybe you know and so it's not

00:15:56.540 it's not a short-term solution it's not something that's going to start tomorrow

00:16:00.220 and quite frankly given the fact that most of our oil and gas is monopolized by americans right now

00:16:05.580 we've sold it off you remember the days of petro canada and you know the fact that we did a crown

00:16:10.700 corporation that we tried to control some of our gas production in country we made sure we sold

00:16:15.740 that off well we sold to suncor another u.s firm and quite frankly suncor took the money they uh

00:16:21.900 were making and they went down to the east coast of canada and they went offshore and now they're

00:16:25.660 monopolizing offshore drilling uh for gas and oil in uh in the maritimes so you know

00:16:34.540 i think good for us we managed to really screw up the oil and gas industry i think that's a good

00:16:38.460 point yeah we we did we made a horrific mess of that uh regardless you know i love it's so funny

00:16:44.700 one harsh left turn really left this country and we should we will dig deeper on this uh the the

00:16:52.780 how we lost control of our gas and oil uh down the road but yes it really is quite a history

00:17:01.180 uh we made one bad move that really kind of left us in the lurch and then it was followed up by

00:17:06.780 our concern for the environment which just stopped us from even trying yeah yeah we we we still made

00:17:13.820 it an industry that had been already totally monopolized by Americans they stopped investing

00:17:19.680 in Canada do any more in it therefore we don't have an ability to produce more no pipelines now

00:17:26.000 we're middled with an EV industry that quite frankly is in its infancy we don't even know

00:17:33.040 quite frankly if we have the power to run it so we're kind of middled with an EV industry that

00:17:39.560 We're trying to get off the ground, and we don't know what that looks like right now, truthfully.

00:17:44.140 I don't know about you, but have you seen a new charging station anywhere in the last six months?

00:17:49.460 The EV thing becomes more abstract in my mind with every passing day.

00:17:53.260 It does.

00:17:53.660 There's no concrete plan other than the fact that we went into some provinces and built large commercial factories to produce batteries and subsidize it heavily, federally and provincially.

00:18:07.500 and then it seems to have gone poof yeah yeah so i don't know where we're at in that uh

00:18:13.760 you know ecosystem but it definitely doesn't look like we're progressively moving forward

00:18:18.780 so now we say to japan japan who is who is always short of uh oil and gas natural gas they're always

00:18:27.140 short of everything just like india is india is too yep like they're all short we get it

00:18:32.760 we're not situated or in the in the condition to provide them anything in the short term

00:18:40.160 this is uh mcpizza do you remember when mcdonald's made pizza yeah i mean they put everything in

00:18:46.840 they put ovens in yep they told the whole world we make the best pizza do you remember that i

00:18:51.940 remember this story and a year and a half later all the pizza ovens were coming out so here's

00:18:58.820 my comparison mark carney went out there and said i'm going to come back with all of this clean

00:19:03.480 energy business for us and and actually what he found is that people want the big mac and so he's

00:19:09.360 coming home to say you know what actually everybody does want to buy something from us but it's what

00:19:13.960 we originally had going for us which is our our energy yeah well but we don't really have it going

00:19:20.140 for us not anymore no because we focused on making pizza we we did but we also years ago right when

00:19:26.920 we got out of the oil and gas business from a canadian perspective yeah we sold it off to

00:19:31.800 americans so when he says we're going to ship it there yeah we can we can go and drill it we can 0.97

00:19:38.120 go get it here we can use canadians we can give them again jobs yeah but it's american firms who

00:19:44.520 are going to take it put it in a it's going to affect their markets their stock markets their

00:19:49.480 commodity markets not ours no we're not we're not part of that industry i think we've kind of

00:19:54.680 in a silly way convinced ourself that we're resource rich and quite which we are but most

00:20:01.520 of it quite frankly isn't owned by Canadians and has been sold off from Canadians so yeah we're 0.99

00:20:07.400 resource rich from an employment perspective you know okay so I have a couple of things that might

00:20:15.440 set us off here okay please forgive me because it's just basic average everyday Canadian thinking

00:20:22.780 But if I was Trump and I went through the postcards from Carney here from around the world,

00:20:30.540 and I got back to the negotiating table, and I knew that he got all of these visits but no results,

00:20:41.400 and we're sitting down to negotiate Kuzma, my whole thing is going to be,

00:20:45.560 so how did your trip go, Mark?

00:20:47.640 Yeah.

00:20:48.340 Yeah, sir.

00:20:48.960 Doesn't look like you managed to get anything, huh?

00:20:51.120 so we're going to have to stay together and here's the deal that i'm going to present to you

00:20:56.640 it put us behind in that process in my mind what do you think well that was you know similar to our

00:21:04.960 discussion earlier on elbows up right like you know we we acted like we had options yeah which

00:21:12.400 we do have options if we actively uh go do them and that was you know my beef earlier on it's my

00:21:19.360 beef still quite frankly if we did have a plan as of july 1st what we were going to do to replace

00:21:27.360 half of the exporting to the united states i'd be more than happy to work cooperatively be part of

00:21:33.120 it you know lend in use whatever business acumen i had to participate yeah but we don't have a plan

00:21:40.800 and we haven't clearly delineated a plan or we do have targets tasks tactics on how to get there and

00:21:46.960 that's the that's becoming the frustrating part i think for canadians and this whole

00:21:52.000 quite frankly this whole thing about uh you know uh by elections and majority government

00:21:59.280 i said it earlier and i'll say it again i think it's becoming kind of canadians aren't even really

00:22:04.800 focused on it that much anymore i think they're whether it's a majority government minority government

00:22:10.160 i think the real proof in the pudding is going to come after july 1 when the when the puck drops

00:22:15.680 and we're going to see to your point when trump's sitting across the table and he says

00:22:20.400 you know show your hand and if you don't have anything if you have a pair of twos

00:22:25.120 you know he's going to call your bluff and then at that point we're going to have to say

00:22:29.520 okay yeah take what you got yeah it's not elbows up it's you know okay story yeah and that's where

00:22:36.080 we're at and quite frankly what did brady say the other day it's not elbows up it's elbows down and

00:22:40.480 anyway it doesn't matter a different part of the body up and that's what's going to happen i think

00:22:44.400 at that moment yeah well you know it's interesting so we're you know today and this is you know just

00:22:49.760 part of my pet beef on this postcard issue for travel we're going to norway we did 1.87 billion

00:22:59.680 last calendar recorded calendar year in exports to norway we're going to buy nato defense systems

00:23:07.360 okay great you know uh again i'd rather we produce them at home i'd rather we were not buying stuff

00:23:14.720 because we need the trade here that's my personal opinion yeah if we it's if it's technology we

00:23:20.320 can't get so that's not a trade trip that's a shopping trip that's a shopping trip which i

00:23:24.560 think we confuse them all the time to your earlier point i think we cut we call these trade trips but

00:23:29.600 if we're going to buy other countries products that's not helping us now right because we have

00:23:35.040 have this big hole we have to replace from the u.s we need to sell not buy so well even if it does

00:23:41.720 help our buying maybe we get a better deal it has to be certainly couched in here's our new trade

00:23:48.480 deal right yeah but none of those have arrived no none of them have arrived so we're going to

00:23:53.300 norway we're taking all the time from yellow knife to fly to norway now there is in there is quite

00:23:59.720 frankly you know i found out this morning i was watching a show and i realized that they do have

00:24:04.280 the world famous reindeer racing contest today so we might get there in time to see reindeer racing

00:24:10.280 oh that's uh gonna help yeah well you know what i i didn't even know it was a thing but apparently

00:24:15.480 in norway it is actually they bet on it that's quite well attended yeah so okay so i guess you

00:24:21.240 know it will be there we'll get a picture with a reindeer open up fan duel and put a bet on for me

00:24:26.040 would you please so but we do get there so we get to there we make it all the way we go to norway who

00:24:31.720 we have really no trade with to stand up and say that we're buying a system to come back and protect

00:24:39.600 the arctic like i think to me it's becoming kind of a use of time right it's it's not so much we

00:24:46.020 can keep traveling and we can keep doing all these and i'm i'm one i've said it on many shows i don't

00:24:51.240 want to see any more travel anymore i don't want to see any more getting off a plane getting on a

00:24:55.860 plane and you know donald trump made that famous i think biden did the helicopter and then i think

00:25:01.660 trump is doing the plane because he got it from the saudis or whatever so you know he he spends

00:25:06.720 a lot of time outside of his big plane you know on the on the the airstrip you know answering

00:25:12.460 questions and then getting on the plane and he seems to think that's really cool i'm at the point

00:25:17.780 now is i want to see our prime minister home laying out a plan plan a b and c to talk about

00:25:26.180 what happens if you know 25 of our exports go away 50 of our exports go away 75 of our exports go away

00:25:35.060 how do we survive replace them and move forward that's what i want to see 621 million dollars

00:25:41.460 in travel so far yeah um i just wanted to point out uh zoom subscriptions are 39.95 a month now

00:25:51.140 so yeah i don't know is it possible that some of these people that we're meeting with

00:25:58.320 could find a time in their schedule to take a zoom call i'm sure you know i get it there's

00:26:04.400 diplomacy oh there is but but we have g7 meetings we have nato meetings we have you know we have

00:26:10.740 and we've attended all those so not only do we go to these individual meetings we've attended all

00:26:15.060 these you know we have ministers i was going to say this there's people appointed to these jobs

00:26:23.220 to get out in the world and we have ambassadors of these countries like i i think if we want to

00:26:29.220 do that's a good point if we want to do each of these uniquely by ourself it's going to be a long

00:26:35.700 process we have 110 days till we hit the till we're going to be sitting at that table on july

00:26:41.540 one and you know he for right now whether he does it or not trump's kind of hinted he's just going

00:26:47.380 to do a bilateral agreement so and when he gets to it it's up to him so we could go there in july

00:26:53.780 one and he says well you know i i just want to meet with mexico which they have started meeting

00:26:58.100 with mexico already that mexico is in their bilateral discussions you know the the prime

00:27:03.620 minister addressed it a week ago he basically said well mexico has issues that we're not involved in

00:27:09.700 so they're having bilateral conversations with the us so by the time july 1 comes he's gonna

00:27:15.540 the us is gonna ink their mexico agreement and then they're gonna invite canada to the table

00:27:23.300 uh i i think that uh it's interesting but i had a had a friend visiting from mexico and he said

00:27:30.900 something to me he said trump has a very special hate for canada certainly for carney and i was

00:27:36.820 like really you think that i guess i kind of ignored or i put it to the side yeah but he

00:27:41.700 doesn't have a huge amount of respect already for carney at that negotiating table for whatever

00:27:46.100 reason right and that we might show up with nothing on our side to negotiate with it doesn't

00:27:54.580 really look good and it almost looks like we we tried to run around the us i don't think trump

00:28:01.060 likes that if you tried to put a global deal together out there to replace the us

00:28:07.460 your closest and largest trading partner with with real logic in place that's disrespectful

00:28:14.980 no matter what the customer says they're always right right because they're the buying power

00:28:21.780 they're going to say yes or no to the option of buying from you and we treat it like it's

00:28:26.980 a foregone conclusion and that our boss has taken away some of our holiday time no this is a deal

00:28:33.940 that we need to create that just strengthens us for years to come trump won't be in power forever

00:28:40.340 it's hard to unring financial bells i understand but we can renegotiate with another government i

00:28:45.860 don't see um i don't see us being in this deal for longer than a few years so whatever arrangement

00:28:53.040 we make with the u.s we've got to be doing it more respectfully i believe um but to quote my dad

00:28:58.880 and i thought i promised him i'd bring this to the table today what do you expect the prime

00:29:03.500 minister to do he's got to get up there and be a prime minister and that means travel in the world

00:29:08.460 paul yeah travel the world once i'm okay with right we don't need to go back again so we

00:29:15.400 we've got to be at the end pretty soon driving the world twice right two world tours and then

00:29:21.160 i'm thinking okay enough's enough his air miles must be ridiculous show me the plan i think show

00:29:27.240 me the plan now show me the plan i would you can travel if you want to live on your airplane yeah

00:29:32.760 go ahead i'm more than happy show us how it's effectively changing you know all i'm asking

00:29:38.600 all i'm asking forget forget by elections forget parties forget anything at this point i don't

00:29:44.760 think anyone's you know i think uh everyone's come to grips with the fact it's going to be a

00:29:49.960 majority government i don't i don't think there's anyone out there saying oh that's not going to

00:29:53.640 happen right you know because all the politicians see greener grass on the other side right now i

00:29:59.240 get it so you're seeing a mass exodus over to the liberal side okay fine as i as i was saying earlier

00:30:06.600 to jim i said the thing you have to be careful right now is you get what you ask for and then

00:30:11.800 the whole thing collapses and at that point you're not worried about whether it's the

00:30:17.480 official opposition you have to then come face up to the canadian public the canadian public

00:30:23.000 who's very docile right now not paying a lot of attention for years under the trudeau administration

00:30:29.400 you know majority governments or you know formation factions honestly didn't pay a lot of attention

00:30:35.240 your gas goes up to 250 and three dollars your groceries keep going up yeah your home equities

00:30:42.900 eroding i think you're right then all of a sudden it's gonna be like oh time out no i think you're

00:30:47.720 right you know and then you're gonna start seeing people kind of get more boisterous

00:30:51.420 unhappy foreclosures go up there's all these things gonna all these signs are gonna hit

00:30:57.020 if you get to july 1st that deal doesn't get done or that deal is horrifically bad and you spend 80

00:31:03.880 percent of your time chasing 20 percent of the business and you didn't even get that then you're

00:31:08.920 going to start to see people regardless of whether you're a majority or minority government uh it's

00:31:14.440 so funny but i think that the key to this is we're not getting a lot of communication if something

00:31:18.340 good is happening we have no indication no no have you well i asked you something and i asked

00:31:23.220 the the viewership the same thing uh so please write in and let us know because i'm very curious

00:31:28.160 tell me something that's being built you guys are there on the ground you guys are there in

00:31:35.080 your communities give me an army barracks that's being built give me a housing project that's being

00:31:44.980 built give me uh transportation hubs that are being built like just share share them with what

00:31:50.880 you're seeing from the uh 25 budget anything that actually dollars are being deployed and things are

00:31:59.200 being built because i gotta tell you i go around and i'm i travel i don't see a ton of development

00:32:05.160 it's true we've been a we've been to some places in canada that you would expect to see some of

00:32:08.760 that stuff going on right now even ottawa sure seems devoid of anything really moving big

00:32:14.640 infrastructure projects where are they happening you know are we you know you're not seeing you're

00:32:19.760 hearing about some mining you're hearing about big mining projects yeah but they've always been

00:32:25.100 going on at the level they're going on at or they were completed that was the our kind of beef with

00:32:29.740 the 2025 budget a lot of the major capital projects were things that are already going on

00:32:34.860 so those are things that are happening in the in uh you know already so we get to july 1st other

00:32:41.840 things you know the exports leave the uh playing field what are the new projects that are coming

00:32:48.080 and that and that's what i just you know that's the plan that i want to see to replace what's

00:32:53.160 happening even if it's okay we've done a big deal to bring kangaroo jerky to canada from australia

00:32:59.140 something but i know there's not a lot of communication don't bring it buy it from us

00:33:04.720 yeah don't again it's not a it's not a purchasing tour like or a sales tour we're not selling

00:33:12.020 canada right you're supposed to be buying canada right yeah yeah we're not on a shopping trip

00:33:17.820 yeah just you know a sales trip pack pack a couple boxes of maple syrup and take it on your

00:33:22.760 trip and try to sell some right you know what i'd recommend maybe on the next tour

00:33:26.460 uh mark carney takes you with him i just love to go and i just you know and i'll be the guy

00:33:34.460 you just i'll hit a button every time you you go to buy something you know it's like you know

00:33:40.000 you know the shopaholic button yeah yeah i'll be the shopaholic button so you know oh yeah we'll

00:33:45.080 buy that for you no oh sorry yeah says no we can't do that yeah but we will sell you this

00:33:51.960 what do you mean you don't want it i will be uh curious to see what he brings home and how

00:33:57.120 it's communicated but so far not really well i think from norway we're getting a uh arctic

00:34:03.540 tracking system so which is that's good great but we bought it yeah i would i would have rather

00:34:11.160 we produced it here make that we couldn't make that like you know i think uh i think we did have

00:34:16.440 a fairly uh large part in creating radar that's what i remember actually there was someone famous

00:34:23.880 who did a canadian who did that of a famous part in that and and and we've been protecting that

00:34:28.840 northern arctic for a while for some time now maybe somebody could have donated one yeah we

00:34:33.800 could attach them to a skidoo or something and then been up there but okay well look uh the tour

00:34:39.080 will wrap up, I guess, in the next

00:34:40.920 seven days. Where the Prime Minister

00:34:42.940 goes after that, I'm not sure. I think back to

00:34:44.900 Ottawa. And

00:34:46.300 I'll tell you this, there's one more tour

00:34:48.740 we're going to talk about. Coming

00:34:50.860 up in the next couple

00:34:52.780 of days, we're going to focus on

00:34:54.840 the opposition's tour and what

00:34:56.820 that meant to Canadians and what it means to the

00:34:58.720 Conservative Party. Thanks for joining us.

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True Patriot Love - March 15, 2026

Mark Carney’s World Tour – What Is Canada’s PM Actually Doing？

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