Olympic Funding - "What It Really Costs To Represent Canada" (with Jane Roos)
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Jane Roos is the founder of CanFund, an organization that has helped support thousands of Canadian athletes on their Olympic journey, often stepping in where traditional funding falls short. In a country as wealthy as Canada, why are some of our Olympic athletes still struggling to survive financially?
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Right now, Canadians across the country are glued to their screens, watching our athletes
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We see the flags, we hear the anthem, and for a moment, the entire country stands still,
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But what most Canadians don't see is what it actually costs to get there.
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Behind the scenes, many of these athletes are not millionaires.
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Some are working second jobs, some are relying on their families, some are fundraising just
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to stay in the sport long enough to wear that Maple Leaf on the world stage.
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In a country as wealthy as Canada, why are some of our Olympic athletes still struggling
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Earlier today, Jim Lang and I had a chance to speak to Jane Roos, the founder of CanFund,
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an organization that has helped support thousands of Canadian athletes on their Olympic journey,
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often stepping in where traditional funding falls short.
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Jane, thanks for joining us and taking the time at what is probably
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Of course, we are day 11, I believe, of the Olympics today.
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The Winter Olympics are underway, and one of the real important cogs in the wheel that
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make it possible for athletes to get to where they are in this country is Jane and CanFund.
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And so, to me, it was a big deal at this time to get you on with us so that while people are
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thinking about the Olympics, they can think about how, as Canadians, we can support our
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And, of course, you are the queen of that in Canada and have been for some time.
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Maybe tell us a little bit about what CanFund does, and then we can work backwards from why
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it's necessary and some of the stories associated.
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So, CanFund gives money directly to the athletes.
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So, on average, we have two applications a year, 700 to 800 athletes apply.
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And because of Canadians who show up, we're able to give each athlete who's approved $8,000.
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So, the more we raise, the more athletes we fund.
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And we are in the game of we create really cool campaigns.
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So, I always say CanFund does our best work when the athletes are out of the spotlight, but
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And I'm glad you brought that up, Jane, because I'll freely admit I got emotional watching
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Perry Sound's Megan Oldham win that gold medal and watching her with her hand over her heart
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But we forget between the time and all the thankless hours of training and falling in the
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hill to get to the point she could win a gold to getting Milana and Cortina.
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Yeah, I feel like most people don't understand that the journey is so costly and so few people
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I always say, I compare CanFund to like entrepreneurs getting seed money.
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I, I think I can't, there's nearly every Canadian athlete since 2003, able bodied and para who's
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competed for Canada on the world stage has been a CanFund recipient.
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And not only that, but you know, you hear the stories.
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I hope that's still an ongoing thing because it's so important for the people that sponsor
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But some of the amazing stories from both the Paralympics, winter and summer Olympics,
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there were elements of how important and at the moment when they needed it most,
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these athletes became recipients of the CanFund funding.
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And you know, it just became apparent to me and maybe you can share some of these with
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us, uh, Jane, but there are athletes that would not have made the Olympics, but for that bit of
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funding that made it possible at some point in their, uh, training on the way to the, to the Olympics.
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I think when you're living on basically nothing and you're budgeting everything, I mean, I haven't
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Like there's such an honor and a privilege to represent your country on the world stage.
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And what we do is we engage people to show up for them.
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So when you're an athlete who is, you know, $60,000 in debt, getting 16,000 from us a year
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And some of the athletes will say that we're their only sponsor.
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So Canadians are showing up and we have so many unique campaigns.
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And the biggest thing is with every donation, you get a tax receipt and you find out which
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Like, you know, like when I, I, so I started camping from a hospital bed.
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I used to be an athlete and I was in a really bad car accident and my best friend was driving
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And one of the things I really wanted to start when can fun was in the earlier stages when
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we weren't a charity yet was just the transparency.
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So when you donate, you find out who you help, because I think following somebody on their journey
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and, and getting to see their, how they improve being part of their, um, highs and lows.
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Cause there's many of those with athletes is really important.
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You, if you're following the story, if you have a vested interest and, uh, sponsoring that
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athlete specifically, you're going to be more engaged in our athletes and the Olympics overall.
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And I think with us right now, you know, we have a program where people are monthly donors.
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We call them patrons of sport because they stay with us throughout the whole year.
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And then in 2019, I noticed that we didn't have, um, a lot of female donors.
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So women across the country are giving $150 or more.
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Well, I wanted to touch on that, Jane, because our oldest daughter lives in Edmonton
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and she's obsessed with our Canadian figure skating team in Milano and Cortina.
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And when she found out about Canadian athletes now can find, and I told her I was going to
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be talking to you, she was so excited because her and her partner want to get on that and
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start doing monthly donations towards the figure skaters.
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Like we go all the way back to like, even right now.
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So in, um, Xavier McKeever, who was in the cross country, um, Olympian at these games,
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his mom, Melanie from 2005 is a can fund recipient.
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And then, and you go to figure skating, like, and what I love about our.
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Like I see in figure skating, we go back to, um, like Scott Moyer was a can fund recipient
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Like one of the early, early skaters, but then we also have the support.
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Like Kurt Browning has done stuff for can fund Brian Orser has done stuff, Tracy Wilson.
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We're trying to like level the playing field for our athletes, but we're trying to say,
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This country gave them so much that they're so proud to be Canadian.
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You know, they're going to watch 16 days of the games.
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And right now, when you watch these games, I mean, even a Blondie who just competed today
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and won gold can fund has been supporting even since 2009 saying with Valerie Montez,
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both the flag bearers walking into the opening ceremonies are can fund recipients.
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Like everybody relies on this charity because getting sponsorship and getting money,
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you know, when you're not in the spotlight, when you're in the thick of it, when you have to pay
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for coaches and equipment and travel, it's not there.
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And then we approve and make this massive waiting list.
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And then we'll have a call with 12 athletes and we invite donors to listen in on the call.
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And I always ask them, like, if you got camp on right now,
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how would that impact your journey or your where you're at?
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And there's tears and it's so different for every athlete.
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Some say that it will help them pay for more physio and more treatments.
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Some athletes will say that this will get them to their final training
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Like so much of the money we gave out leading into these games,
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So, you know, I think the really cool thing about CanFun is every donor should be really
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proud that the money that they're giving is being used to, you know,
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because I feel like the athletes are in the arena.
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They're getting their butts kicked, right?
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And when you donate, you know that that money is actually making a significant difference,
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Many of these athletes have, like you say, Jane,
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they've put their lives completely on hold and some of them are young.
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So putting university on hold relationships or, you know, just getting into the career
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that they studied in university and they're doing that to represent their country.
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And some of these events and Jane, maybe I'm wrong about this.
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You know, certain snowboarding, skiing, and the high-flying games, they're
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Those athletes might stand a better chance of getting sponsorship through the process.
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But there are events that are just not as brand significant, I guess, to sponsorship.
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And I think those athletes really do represent a lot of the games for us.
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And they're a little bit stranded, I think, on a desert island when it comes to sponsorship.
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I would say you'd be surprised nearly every athlete competing at these games
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Figure skaters, your speed skaters, your snowboarders, everybody.
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I think it just costs so much and the funding's just not there for them in ways that it should be.
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And so CanFund becomes this, you know, it, everyone says to us it's a significant difference maker.
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Like I just had a call two days ago with, there was 10 Paralympians on the call
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and eight of them were on the sledge hockey team.
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And I same question, if you got $8,000 today, what would it mean?
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And you see grown people like men, boy, people teary-eyed.
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Like getting CanFund, yes, it alleviates all the costs or some of them, like, you know,
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You know, Jane, I know Tyler McGregor fairly well.
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I've got to know him over the years and his story to becoming one of the great sledge hockey
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players in the world is pretty incredible, but the sledges aren't cheap.
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And I can see those sledge hockey players getting emotional because that's the difference between
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Some of the athletes will say getting CanFund is the difference between qualifying and not
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standing on the podium or not staying in sport longer.
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And we show up to for athletes who get injured.
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Like, you know, I don't really care about the medals, really.
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I mean, I have in moments, we did a campaign in Vancouver where Eric Sprott was giving us
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a hundred thousand for every gold medal won because he said, what's your biggest problem?
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I said, for the next games, like after these Paralympic winter games, nobody cares for another
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You know, like I said earlier, like so few people wear the Maple Leaf.
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And when you watch the games right now and you look at their Facebook feeds, they just want
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We need them all to donate and fund because the money is going right to the athletes.
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And I would give we would give the athletes more than eight thousand.
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I read the documentation from the government about where they put funding towards sport and
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developing our athletes to get to the Olympics.
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And it's a lot of money and it seems to go to ward facilities.
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Is there a it just seems to me that if we put more into our athletes and that requires funding
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because it's so expensive for the training and the treatments and the travel and everything
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required to be in and among the best in the world, we should be creating the right kind
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of funding that gets to these athletes at the federal level.
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At the same time, it seems like they've been a little bit abandoned on that at the personal
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Maybe maybe the infrastructure is being built to get them to the place where they want to
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And frankly, is there some better way that we could be supporting our athletes
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I think the whole sports system needs kind of like a do over.
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I think that there's a lot of infrastructure that money goes to, but it doesn't get to the athletes.
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Like Italy's our 12th Olympics and I've seen like the carding, you know, one of our campaigns
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that we did kind of embarrassed the Canadian government and they increased carding.
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my goal is could corporate Canada, like we have an adopt an athlete program where it's $10,000.
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I mean, couldn't we get every company in this, you know, country to give $10,000 to adopt an
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I mean, I don't think it would take a lot from everybody if they all showed up.
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But I think the challenge is the government, the infrastructure isn't set.
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artistic swimming was paying $5,000 in team fees.
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They were the first team that was paying like a team fee.
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Fast forward to now, nearly every winter athlete, every sport, and the team fees are up to $30,000.
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So if you don't pay $30,000, you're not competing.
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Not only do you have to be the best, you have to have $30,000 in your pocket potentially to do it.
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And so I think it's super frustrating for the athletes because they're already, you know,
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they're getting carded, but then that's going into their team fees.
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And then they're still paying for extra physio, extra, you know, travel.
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I think Canadians are shocked to know that the athletes will be $50,000, $60,000 in debt coming
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And, you know, we always have the conversation, well, it's their choice.
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But I think we celebrate moments in this country.
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Like when the women's rugby were at the World Cup, an entire country was watching that.
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Yeah, and all those girls, 13 of those players are CanFund recipients.
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But they've made a choice to represent all of us, to represent us as patriots in love
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I just want to add, the politicians of the country are the first ones to hop on for video
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and photo for social media with the athlete from their riding when they win a medal.
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Yeah, I just think, you know, I always say every donation, you can't bottle Canadian pride,
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And I feel like all of our donors stay with us.
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We, you know, when you become a monthly donor, we have a monthly donor, the quarterly newsletters.
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These people who donate to CanFund go behind the scenes.
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You know, we do a really great job, I think, of having to connect our donors
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Because again, there are 86,000 charities and people work hard for their money.
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But I also think the moments that they're competing for our country, not even at the,
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just at the Olympics, but World Cups and World Championships and everywhere,
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And I think if you take away like what they do for our country,
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it matters and these moments matter and the pride.
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And I think that's what we're trying to tell people that this is your donation
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to celebrate the moments that bring an entire country to its feet, that lift us all up, that
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Like when you see excellence, you believe it's possible in your own life.
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I love asking for money because you get to know these athletes and we're rooting for them.
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The whole buzz with CanFund, in my experience, is that they are family members to each of these
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important athletes and the way that they treat them and the regard that the athletes have for
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I endorse in any way that I can people donating to CanFund.
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If you want to see women advance, make the $150 donation.
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And for goodness sake, for $10 a month, be inspired to be part of our athletic program
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here in Canada and get our athletes up on the podium.
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And I'm certainly inspired by what you do and your story.
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That's canadianathletesnow.ca to get to CanFund, $10 a month.
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But I have something else I want to share because it's...
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And one of the things we do, I've done is it's called Art of Accomplishment.
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And I've given painted canvases to famous Canadians, like Gord Downey wrote lyrics on them.
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It's the first time I've ever done something like this.
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Your word's going to go on a painting that's 10 feet by four feet.
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And I want to get a million people because I want to create something that will live forever,
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that people showed up in 2026 saying this is who we are to the world.
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Most people have never been on a piece of artwork.
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So people are doing it for every family member, every employee.
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You still find out which athlete you're funding.
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And then what we're doing is we're taking all the words.
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So it would be like, Mike, your word, the city you're from.
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And we're putting this in a huge booklet that will travel with the painting.
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My goal is that this artwork will hang in the National Gallery of Canada one day.
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It's an access to something that people will never, I think, ever get to be part of a painting.
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And the small amount to contribute is going to our Canadian athletes.
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I mean, if we got a million people, $25 million, that would fund five applications.
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But it also, the end result is this beautiful canvas that celebrates us.
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I'm so happy the women won gold today already.
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Thanks for helping make this wonderful time possible for all of us Canadians.
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We're enjoying the athletes that you've got behind.