True Patriot Love - October 02, 2025


Riyadh Comedy Festival： Comedy vs Conscience


Episode Stats

Length

23 minutes

Words per Minute

188.08685

Word Count

4,447

Sentence Count

365

Misogynist Sentences

8

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The whole world deserves to laugh.
00:00:02.100 If the whole world could just laugh, right?
00:00:05.140 Unless you're performing for laughs at the Riyadh Comedy Festival.
00:00:09.680 Today we're talking about that.
00:00:11.180 It's a big topic, not just in the comedy world,
00:00:13.760 but in the entertainment world and the world of global politics suddenly.
00:00:17.840 We're talking about that today on The Daily Cancel.
00:00:26.580 Okay, joining me today for this topic,
00:00:28.540 two of the funnier people I know,
00:00:31.620 Nick Delinsky, producer here and writer at TPL,
00:00:35.860 and of course our very own correspondent and executive producer, Brady Wedham.
00:00:40.340 Guys, thanks for joining me.
00:00:41.680 Now, I have to position you as experts because you kind of are.
00:00:47.120 In fact, all of us are huge fans of comedy,
00:00:49.440 but this one has really caused waves, man.
00:00:53.660 It's a desert storm of controversy.
00:00:59.540 Well, Mike, thank you for having me on The Daily Canceled.
00:01:02.260 I am very glad to be here.
00:01:05.040 I don't know if this is a group of people who have sold their souls
00:01:10.100 or if they're just doing it for the paycheck
00:01:12.500 because they got to, you know, pay the bills.
00:01:14.380 But there has been a lot of controversy in the past couple of weeks
00:01:17.580 talking about the Riyadh Comedy Festival.
00:01:19.660 You may know some of these names.
00:01:20.940 Kevin Hart, Dave Chappelle, Andrew Schultz, Aziz Ansari,
00:01:24.040 Bill Burr, Chris DiStefano,
00:01:27.280 Chris Tucker for a second there.
00:01:28.740 I was like, was that Tucker Carlson?
00:01:31.820 I mean, anyway, Hannibal Buress, big deal.
00:01:34.660 Jimmy Carr, Joe Coy, Louis CK, Mark Norman,
00:01:37.340 big names, big names, Pete Davidson.
00:01:40.360 I think he's a comedian still.
00:01:41.980 Sebastian Maniscalco.
00:01:44.160 These are all very big names in the comedy world, Nick.
00:01:47.000 Yeah, for sure, for sure.
00:01:48.620 And, I mean, I think, you know,
00:01:51.540 my opinion has already been said enough,
00:01:53.220 so I'll spare it just to think, like,
00:01:54.560 if these people are, you know,
00:01:56.780 supposed to be, you know,
00:01:58.980 arbiters of free speech and things like this,
00:02:00.800 why are they, you know,
00:02:02.440 being paid by such an oppressive government, you know?
00:02:05.380 But to me...
00:02:06.380 Wait, wait, wait.
00:02:06.820 Give me that one again, but slow down.
00:02:08.300 I want to understand the logic of this one.
00:02:10.140 If these people are so for free speech,
00:02:11.960 why are they taking money from people
00:02:13.520 that hamper free speech so much?
00:02:15.720 Yeah, they just killed a journalist.
00:02:17.780 Right.
00:02:19.180 And there's Jamal Khashoggi.
00:02:21.340 That was another case.
00:02:23.240 And so, yeah, again, this is not a new opinion,
00:02:26.520 but it's sort of, it's just, to me,
00:02:29.200 it's another example of, you know,
00:02:30.900 what I realize is that, you know,
00:02:34.280 funny doesn't exactly equal being right about everything.
00:02:38.600 Yeah.
00:02:39.220 Yep.
00:02:39.760 Yeah.
00:02:40.400 I think people make this conflation
00:02:43.020 that just because you laugh at something,
00:02:44.260 I have, I know so many comedians
00:02:45.740 that I find hilarious,
00:02:47.360 but their politics just make me,
00:02:50.640 just make me gross.
00:02:51.820 So, so what do you think?
00:02:53.300 Do you, do you avoid them or do you?
00:02:55.700 I've just, you know, I, I used to avoid them
00:02:57.580 and now I think like, get, they're not,
00:02:59.800 you know, they're, I don't need to take their opinion.
00:03:02.780 I don't think people should,
00:03:03.720 should be getting their opinions from, from comedians.
00:03:06.200 I don't.
00:03:06.780 No, I think so too.
00:03:07.540 I mean, like, when did we ever think Rodney Dangerfield
00:03:09.820 was going to give us anything meaningful
00:03:11.400 or Sam Kinison or Richard Pryor?
00:03:15.400 There's a new era of righteousness
00:03:17.240 in every element of fame.
00:03:19.180 Well, I think it started with George Carlin, right?
00:03:22.040 When George Carlin,
00:03:22.820 because when George first started,
00:03:24.440 and people that are smarter than I can tell you
00:03:26.760 way more information than I can on George Carlin.
00:03:28.800 I'm a big fan of George Carlin,
00:03:29.880 but not a historian on him.
00:03:31.180 But I know that his comedy style
00:03:32.540 when he first started
00:03:33.440 is a lot different than when it ended.
00:03:35.500 Yeah.
00:03:35.680 And he was very political in his stance, right?
00:03:40.300 I, I don't know if I agree with that.
00:03:43.600 I think that if a human being is put on a stage
00:03:47.280 and has a microphone
00:03:47.980 and he's there to make people laugh
00:03:49.300 and he says something prolific
00:03:50.460 or something that you can take away from it
00:03:51.980 and apply it to your life
00:03:53.020 to either benefit your life
00:03:55.220 or just to look at something
00:03:56.280 from a different perspective,
00:03:57.220 I think that happens.
00:03:58.540 And that could happen through not only jokes,
00:04:00.080 but it could happen through horror stories too, right?
00:04:02.660 Like, I think there's things to learn
00:04:04.720 from anybody that's in a position
00:04:06.160 where they seem like they're stable.
00:04:08.460 Now, if we're talking about, you know,
00:04:10.400 Bobby Lee, for instance,
00:04:11.480 and this is no shame on Bobby Lee,
00:04:13.140 but I don't care what Bobby Lee's political opinion is.
00:04:17.020 I couldn't give a shit.
00:04:18.460 But Russell Peters, I might.
00:04:20.500 Yeah.
00:04:21.380 Right?
00:04:21.760 Like, I might be able to listen to Russell talk about...
00:04:24.120 Dave Chappelle seems to be a bit of an orator now
00:04:26.300 alongside being a comedian.
00:04:29.360 Yeah, he got political when his comeback.
00:04:32.220 Very much so.
00:04:32.920 He wasn't political before.
00:04:34.380 No.
00:04:34.640 Not really.
00:04:35.140 He was pooping dick jokes.
00:04:36.620 Yeah.
00:04:37.000 Yeah, pretty much.
00:04:37.740 It's interesting you brought up Russell Peters
00:04:39.860 because even before all this,
00:04:41.860 he had a whole bit in his act
00:04:44.080 talking about performing for Saudis.
00:04:46.400 And in the story,
00:04:49.060 he talks about talking to Osama bin Laden's brother
00:04:51.080 over the phone.
00:04:52.300 I vaguely remember that.
00:04:53.540 Yeah.
00:04:53.840 Yeah.
00:04:54.540 To get the booking done,
00:04:55.960 he was the paying customer.
00:04:58.260 Yeah.
00:04:58.800 Yeah, yeah.
00:04:59.560 I'm sure he made boatloads of cash.
00:05:01.440 He wouldn't be there.
00:05:02.060 Well, some of the people on this list
00:05:03.380 are definitely in the $10 million list.
00:05:05.060 I'm guessing.
00:05:06.800 Yeah.
00:05:07.340 You know, Kevin Hart isn't doing this
00:05:09.780 and selling his name potentially.
00:05:12.220 Now, honestly.
00:05:13.740 Kevin Hart doesn't need any more money.
00:05:15.980 Well, then why is he doing this?
00:05:17.780 Well, he would do...
00:05:19.900 He'll do anything.
00:05:21.160 He would do a show for, you know, Al-Qaeda.
00:05:24.060 You know, he does anything.
00:05:25.780 He doesn't care.
00:05:26.120 Yeah.
00:05:26.920 Well, I think that that's the question then.
00:05:29.140 Is this a group of sellouts?
00:05:30.800 Is this people who just don't care at all?
00:05:33.500 I think when you're looking at the Tom Seguras of the world
00:05:35.640 who have already came out since COVID
00:05:37.720 and said, you know,
00:05:38.720 I don't do my podcast to relate to the poors.
00:05:43.000 I do my podcast so I can buy nice cars and nice things.
00:05:46.580 And you guys can all sit there and admire it
00:05:48.360 and boo-hoo for you.
00:05:50.360 So...
00:05:50.560 I guess.
00:05:51.440 So Tom Seguras, I understand,
00:05:53.400 taking the paycheck
00:05:54.000 because they're openly honest about that.
00:05:55.620 And respectfully,
00:05:56.660 you've got to respect anybody
00:05:57.600 who's going to be open and honest,
00:05:58.940 I guess, if that's their opinion.
00:06:00.160 I've got to agree with them.
00:06:01.260 But things like Jimmy Carr surprised me.
00:06:04.640 Yeah, a couple of names on here
00:06:05.780 actually did surprise me.
00:06:06.700 Bill Burr was shocking to me.
00:06:08.140 I'm not surprised by Bill Burr.
00:06:09.380 Not after the past couple of years.
00:06:10.600 Really?
00:06:10.840 He seems to be Mr. All-American.
00:06:13.900 Come on, let's be...
00:06:15.040 I think if you bought into the shtick
00:06:16.160 of him hating billionaires
00:06:17.240 and listening to that
00:06:18.220 for that he's been spewing
00:06:19.200 for the past couple of years,
00:06:20.160 then maybe you would have, you know,
00:06:22.160 thought there was truth.
00:06:23.220 I can see Ray through it
00:06:24.880 because I was such a big fan of Bill.
00:06:27.300 Bill's the same guy that said
00:06:28.200 anybody who watches a Star Wars movie
00:06:29.760 is a loser
00:06:30.860 and needs to do something with their life.
00:06:32.580 And a couple of years later,
00:06:33.340 takes a massive paycheck
00:06:34.440 and has his own Star Wars action figure.
00:06:36.300 So I don't think
00:06:37.880 anything that he has ever said
00:06:40.500 or put out there
00:06:41.300 should be anything
00:06:41.880 that you hold your hat on with Bill.
00:06:43.640 So I'm not surprised with Bill.
00:06:44.800 Now, there's some quality comedians on here.
00:06:46.600 I mean, except for Joe Coy.
00:06:48.000 There's like some really good comedians
00:06:49.460 on this list.
00:06:50.940 How do you think they justify...
00:06:53.500 I'm just kidding.
00:06:54.140 Joe Coy is marginally funny.
00:06:56.460 What do you think the logic was in their mind
00:06:59.400 knowing that this...
00:07:00.920 Or do you think that these comedians
00:07:02.280 even had a single clue
00:07:04.200 that there would be blowback on this?
00:07:06.840 I mean, there could have been panic
00:07:08.220 in their minds of just like,
00:07:09.520 let's just get as much money as we can
00:07:11.600 before the economy implodes.
00:07:13.100 Yeah.
00:07:14.860 I also think possibly they didn't think
00:07:17.600 people would really know about this.
00:07:20.580 I mean, it's not a secret,
00:07:21.740 but at the same time,
00:07:23.140 it's a lot of things
00:07:23.880 just fly under the radar.
00:07:25.020 Well, once Tim Dillon got invited,
00:07:26.960 of course, the whole world
00:07:28.160 was going to know
00:07:28.840 that it was going on.
00:07:30.020 Can we talk about that for a second?
00:07:32.360 Comedian Tim Dillon,
00:07:33.380 if you didn't listen to his podcast,
00:07:35.360 you can go back.
00:07:36.000 By the way, I love Tim Dillon.
00:07:38.020 I can get 14, 18 minutes
00:07:41.080 into his podcast
00:07:42.100 and I have to take a break
00:07:43.700 because he's like the neighbor
00:07:45.580 yelling at you
00:07:46.620 about things you want to talk about.
00:07:48.540 If Wilson was drunk
00:07:49.640 on Home Improvement.
00:07:50.520 It was.
00:07:51.340 Exactly.
00:07:52.500 Anyway, he was like very forthcoming
00:07:54.480 that he went on and said
00:07:56.380 that he didn't care.
00:07:59.760 He was going to take the money
00:08:00.960 and all of it.
00:08:02.240 But it really quickly became satire,
00:08:04.600 I think, from Tim
00:08:05.540 as he said it out loud
00:08:07.060 and realized,
00:08:07.720 okay, well, these people,
00:08:08.800 you know, have a slave system historically.
00:08:11.120 They treat people badly.
00:08:12.720 I don't care.
00:08:13.540 I want the money, he said.
00:08:16.020 Well, I think, you know,
00:08:17.500 he made a couple of comments
00:08:18.580 that went a little too far
00:08:19.640 and next thing you know,
00:08:20.860 he was canceled anyway.
00:08:22.120 That's what I think the story
00:08:23.540 and the narrative
00:08:24.100 has been put out there.
00:08:25.020 This is what I think.
00:08:25.820 I think whoever booked this
00:08:27.500 and works for his excellency
00:08:29.040 went through a list
00:08:30.280 of the biggest numbers
00:08:31.200 and drawing comedians
00:08:32.380 and said, get them all.
00:08:33.480 Get as many as you can.
00:08:34.400 Whoever will take it.
00:08:35.240 Bring this huge comedy festival.
00:08:36.880 And then they get,
00:08:37.680 they get the list back
00:08:38.600 and one of them is Tim.
00:08:40.040 And then they hear a comment about,
00:08:41.820 what do you mean
00:08:42.120 that this comedian's talking
00:08:43.140 about this already,
00:08:43.880 about the deal?
00:08:44.860 And they look into him
00:08:45.820 and they were like,
00:08:46.380 this is the guy
00:08:47.820 that has a picture of him.
00:08:51.260 Don't say it.
00:08:51.940 We all saw the picture.
00:08:52.960 Look up Tim Dillon pictures.
00:08:54.680 Yeah.
00:08:55.300 Yeah.
00:08:55.900 Even, I'd re-add to it
00:08:57.280 and you'd probably
00:08:57.920 get a little closer,
00:08:58.800 but he was caught.
00:09:00.280 He was pretty,
00:09:01.160 pretty quickly.
00:09:02.540 People that they throw up.
00:09:03.500 The Riyadh Comedy Festival
00:09:03.860 threw up images of,
00:09:05.800 no, this is why
00:09:06.660 he's not coming on the show.
00:09:07.760 I'm pretty sure
00:09:08.120 they were only bringing him there
00:09:09.120 to throw him off the building
00:09:10.300 like they do everybody else
00:09:11.480 who is a homosexual
00:09:12.340 in Saudi Arabia.
00:09:13.760 He said that actually
00:09:14.980 on his show.
00:09:15.520 He goes,
00:09:15.660 now I'm suspicious.
00:09:16.800 This could be,
00:09:17.620 by the way,
00:09:17.960 a very clever lineup.
00:09:19.500 You know,
00:09:20.000 they'll come for the money
00:09:21.000 and then we can get rid
00:09:22.220 of all of them
00:09:23.200 at the same time.
00:09:24.760 I don't think it's that evil.
00:09:26.160 Pete Davidson.
00:09:27.640 Yeah.
00:09:28.120 Also,
00:09:28.700 there was all comedians
00:09:30.340 on this list
00:09:31.000 and then Pete Davidson.
00:09:32.760 That confused me.
00:09:33.800 Oh, and Whitney Cummings.
00:09:34.760 You missed that.
00:09:35.160 Oh, yeah, sorry.
00:09:35.860 No, so they must have
00:09:36.820 some other,
00:09:37.240 maybe they're doing wrestling
00:09:38.340 or something.
00:09:39.040 Both of their names.
00:09:39.560 Everything,
00:09:40.220 anybody that doesn't know
00:09:41.140 who Pete Davidson is,
00:09:42.160 he's a comedian.
00:09:43.220 I think he's still dating
00:09:44.480 Kim Kardashian,
00:09:46.000 Kanye's ex
00:09:46.620 or something like that.
00:09:47.280 Oh, I don't really know.
00:09:47.800 Anyway,
00:09:49.100 SNL alumni.
00:09:50.600 He's been in SNL forever.
00:09:51.760 Well, look at his story.
00:09:53.000 His story's pretty crazy.
00:09:54.240 There's no way
00:09:54.620 that he's done the math
00:09:55.460 on this, right?
00:09:55.720 His father
00:09:56.500 was in the very first
00:09:58.960 team of firemen
00:10:00.180 who arrived on the scene
00:10:01.820 9-11
00:10:03.640 at the World Trade Center
00:10:04.700 and ended up passing away
00:10:05.800 him and his entire firehouse.
00:10:07.680 Passed away
00:10:08.180 in that tragedy.
00:10:10.440 And some people,
00:10:12.080 majority of people,
00:10:12.900 think that some of that
00:10:14.000 was organized
00:10:14.900 by Saudi Arabia.
00:10:16.560 And 24 years later,
00:10:19.840 Pete is going over there
00:10:21.320 to take a paycheck
00:10:21.900 from the same group of people.
00:10:23.820 Allegedly.
00:10:24.520 Allegedly.
00:10:25.480 So,
00:10:26.600 where does that leave?
00:10:27.400 What's alleged?
00:10:29.100 Oh, right.
00:10:30.120 It's real.
00:10:30.880 Oh, okay.
00:10:31.600 I mean,
00:10:31.860 is there any evidence
00:10:34.220 against that
00:10:34.800 the Saudis didn't?
00:10:36.200 I'm so sorry.
00:10:36.760 I don't know why
00:10:37.140 I said allegedly.
00:10:39.540 I mean,
00:10:39.860 allegedly,
00:10:40.660 he just took the money
00:10:42.340 knowing this.
00:10:43.800 I only speak about comedy
00:10:45.060 on TPL.
00:10:45.940 I can't comment
00:10:47.460 on anything else you're saying.
00:10:49.120 Allegedly,
00:10:49.720 it was with regard
00:10:50.500 to Pete Davidson's
00:10:51.860 understanding
00:10:52.640 that,
00:10:53.940 yeah,
00:10:54.100 he's taking money
00:10:54.640 from the same guys
00:10:55.300 who killed us badly.
00:10:56.100 I mean,
00:10:56.360 is there any debate
00:10:57.160 that the Saudis
00:10:57.820 weren't involved
00:10:58.940 in 9-11?
00:10:59.720 Is this a conspiracy theory?
00:11:01.300 There's no debate.
00:11:02.000 I want to stipulate again.
00:11:06.740 Let's debate it right now.
00:11:08.180 Okay,
00:11:08.580 well,
00:11:08.780 I don't think they did.
00:11:09.560 All right.
00:11:10.200 I don't think they had
00:11:10.900 anything to do with it.
00:11:11.720 These people love comedy.
00:11:12.900 They love comedy.
00:11:14.700 Why would they do comedy?
00:11:15.960 It couldn't be bad.
00:11:16.940 No.
00:11:17.080 It couldn't be bad.
00:11:17.960 No,
00:11:18.180 but you're right,
00:11:18.680 and that connection
00:11:19.440 has been made.
00:11:20.460 And then the other name
00:11:21.160 is Whitney Cummings,
00:11:22.040 who has spent
00:11:22.560 a very long time
00:11:23.440 talking about women's rights
00:11:24.460 and being a feminist.
00:11:25.820 I like that Nick waits
00:11:25.840 until we're doing a show
00:11:26.780 to hate me.
00:11:29.500 I was confused.
00:11:32.440 I was excited.
00:11:33.140 No,
00:11:33.300 there's no confusion.
00:11:34.340 I misspoke.
00:11:35.820 What I meant was,
00:11:36.760 allegedly,
00:11:37.900 he has not made
00:11:38.500 the connection,
00:11:39.160 or I don't know.
00:11:40.340 Anyway,
00:11:40.720 Pete Davidson,
00:11:41.400 I guess,
00:11:41.840 shame on you.
00:11:43.120 Whitney Cummings,
00:11:44.000 another one,
00:11:44.500 who is a voice
00:11:45.160 of women's rights
00:11:46.980 and feminism
00:11:47.620 and standing up
00:11:48.920 for anything
00:11:49.300 that has to do
00:11:50.020 with stuff like this.
00:11:52.140 She's on the plane,
00:11:53.180 on the way.
00:11:53.960 Yeah.
00:11:54.460 Yeah.
00:11:55.480 I wonder how they'll
00:11:56.400 deal with it on stage
00:11:57.240 there.
00:11:57.420 Now,
00:11:57.960 the rest of the comedy
00:11:59.040 community that wasn't
00:12:00.220 invited or didn't take
00:12:01.360 the gig is out there
00:12:02.780 certainly with their opinions.
00:12:04.280 One of them is David Cross,
00:12:05.820 who published an article.
00:12:07.080 Yes,
00:12:07.340 I've actually seen that article.
00:12:08.680 I have it here in front of me.
00:12:09.980 Well,
00:12:10.120 first of all,
00:12:10.500 let me just say this.
00:12:11.360 David Cross,
00:12:11.980 I don't trust
00:12:14.700 bald guys with glasses.
00:12:17.540 I don't find you credible.
00:12:18.700 So just,
00:12:19.280 we're going to start there,
00:12:19.980 okay?
00:12:23.900 I think the best line,
00:12:26.340 he told him to say that.
00:12:28.360 Totally.
00:12:29.440 And he stumbled it out.
00:12:31.420 And he stumbled out
00:12:32.500 and we had no response for him.
00:12:33.900 do you mind if I try it again?
00:12:34.780 Let's do it again.
00:12:35.540 All right.
00:12:36.060 All right.
00:12:37.220 David Cross,
00:12:37.960 let me just say this.
00:12:39.400 These guys never want to have
00:12:40.700 a part in anything you produce.
00:12:42.080 I,
00:12:42.400 however,
00:12:42.700 would love it.
00:12:43.380 I think you're a fantastic guy.
00:12:47.800 You wrote a good article.
00:12:49.020 Let's hear it.
00:12:50.400 The best part for me was,
00:12:51.680 was,
00:12:52.580 yeah,
00:12:53.020 what's the last one?
00:12:53.380 A little further down.
00:12:54.400 It says,
00:12:54.560 I don't understand how being rich
00:12:56.040 can make someone such a whore.
00:12:58.700 Wow.
00:12:59.480 That's really,
00:13:00.860 I mean,
00:13:01.300 Nick,
00:13:01.560 to be honest with you,
00:13:02.220 that sounds like you wrote it.
00:13:03.540 Yeah.
00:13:04.040 That sounds like you wrote that.
00:13:06.060 I've heard Nick say that.
00:13:07.160 I don't know how being rich
00:13:08.080 could make you such a whore.
00:13:09.420 Get rich and find out,
00:13:10.640 buddy.
00:13:11.140 Okay.
00:13:11.960 I mean,
00:13:12.220 I guess it's addictive.
00:13:13.060 You'll be as big a whore
00:13:14.040 as any of them.
00:13:14.680 I see it in your eyes.
00:13:15.380 I guess.
00:13:16.260 I guess.
00:13:16.920 But it is a good line
00:13:17.940 because all of these people
00:13:20.400 pretty much are set
00:13:21.260 in their comedy careers.
00:13:22.060 Yeah.
00:13:22.680 Yeah.
00:13:23.140 I mean,
00:13:23.360 these aren't starving artists,
00:13:24.740 this list.
00:13:25.840 Let's get one thing straight.
00:13:27.040 This isn't,
00:13:27.720 oh,
00:13:27.920 they need to pay their rent
00:13:28.940 so they're doing the Riyadh
00:13:29.780 Comedy Festival.
00:13:31.880 These are people
00:13:32.740 who are millionaires.
00:13:33.780 Yeah.
00:13:34.040 Yeah.
00:13:34.240 I don't see Timmy No-Breaks
00:13:35.560 on the venue list.
00:13:37.300 You know what I mean?
00:13:37.840 Like,
00:13:38.000 they're not giving,
00:13:38.980 you're right,
00:13:39.420 there's nobody in here
00:13:40.300 that's considered
00:13:40.740 an independent comedian
00:13:41.780 or a young,
00:13:43.340 hustling,
00:13:43.800 grinding comedian.
00:13:44.760 No.
00:13:45.120 No.
00:13:45.400 These are all established
00:13:46.440 stadium acts
00:13:47.320 who draw 15,000 to 30,000
00:13:49.920 people per show.
00:13:51.380 I like this, though.
00:13:52.960 I remember the backlash
00:13:54.260 I got for appearing
00:13:55.200 in Alvin and the Chipmunks.
00:13:56.620 You would have thought
00:13:57.400 I had taken the money
00:13:58.140 from a bunch of people
00:13:59.080 responsible for funding
00:14:00.220 Al-Qaeda.
00:14:01.900 What?
00:14:03.740 So,
00:14:04.340 anyway,
00:14:04.740 listen,
00:14:05.060 David,
00:14:05.480 nobody cares about
00:14:06.440 that part of your career.
00:14:07.380 Just wanted to say that.
00:14:08.920 The other stuff in here,
00:14:10.080 okay,
00:14:10.600 a little self-righteous.
00:14:12.040 I get it.
00:14:12.740 You didn't get an invitation.
00:14:14.040 I think the comedy,
00:14:14.940 community reacting
00:14:16.420 to other comedians
00:14:18.020 is ridiculous, too.
00:14:20.760 I don't think comedians
00:14:21.600 should be taken seriously.
00:14:23.180 They are comedians.
00:14:24.540 I don't think it matters
00:14:25.980 where they perform.
00:14:27.520 They're the lowest rung
00:14:28.860 on the entertainment ladder.
00:14:31.240 Jeez.
00:14:32.240 Right above radio hosts
00:14:33.660 and just below podcast hosts,
00:14:36.860 which is where most of them
00:14:37.740 make their fame now.
00:14:38.780 Yeah.
00:14:39.560 I don't think that we should
00:14:41.320 put any value at all
00:14:44.600 incompetent comedians
00:14:47.000 as social markers.
00:14:49.260 I don't think they want it.
00:14:50.680 I don't think they need it.
00:14:51.760 And they certainly,
00:14:52.340 I don't think,
00:14:52.760 deserve it.
00:14:53.480 What we need is to laugh.
00:14:56.100 We need to laugh.
00:14:57.440 Whether they have to perform
00:14:59.380 here or there
00:15:00.320 or anywhere,
00:15:01.680 I don't think we should care,
00:15:04.060 to be honest with you.
00:15:05.040 Do you care if somebody
00:15:05.820 goes to work in Saudi Arabia
00:15:06.900 as a doctor?
00:15:09.260 No.
00:15:10.000 No.
00:15:10.660 Do you care if somebody
00:15:11.440 goes to Saudi Arabia
00:15:12.240 to be a wrestler?
00:15:16.660 Yeah.
00:15:17.300 Why?
00:15:18.620 Yeah,
00:15:18.980 because I've seen a lot of them
00:15:20.220 say that they never would
00:15:21.560 when they weren't in the company
00:15:22.860 and the second they go back
00:15:23.960 to the company,
00:15:24.740 the very first thing they do
00:15:25.580 is get on a plane
00:15:26.140 and go to Saudi Arabia.
00:15:27.600 I don't want to see people
00:15:28.520 be hypocrites.
00:15:29.300 Me personally,
00:15:30.000 I don't care.
00:15:31.460 I don't care.
00:15:32.580 Yeah.
00:15:32.960 Me personally.
00:15:33.800 Yeah,
00:15:33.960 that's what I'm saying.
00:15:34.360 In my life,
00:15:34.840 what affects me going to sleep?
00:15:36.200 That was my question.
00:15:36.520 You personally.
00:15:37.240 No.
00:15:37.900 No,
00:15:38.260 I don't give a shit.
00:15:39.020 Right.
00:15:39.480 Yeah.
00:15:40.060 The same way I would hope
00:15:41.140 that none of these comedians
00:15:42.120 care where I go to work
00:15:43.160 because they don't.
00:15:44.800 You know,
00:15:45.040 a lot of people go to Saudi Arabia
00:15:46.120 to do business.
00:15:47.800 A lot of people do that.
00:15:49.560 People that are respected
00:15:50.960 and have,
00:15:51.840 you know,
00:15:52.080 big positions,
00:15:52.960 a lot of finance
00:15:53.620 goes through there.
00:15:55.460 I've got to be honest with you.
00:15:57.160 I think this was just
00:15:58.400 an easy marker
00:15:59.860 for people to get on top of them
00:16:02.000 and hate them
00:16:03.960 because they took a job
00:16:05.160 in Saudi Arabia
00:16:05.960 that's visible.
00:16:07.880 The same thing
00:16:09.260 that if Taylor Swift
00:16:11.040 performed there.
00:16:11.880 And I think she did.
00:16:12.900 If anybody ever looked
00:16:14.620 my name up,
00:16:15.300 they would see that,
00:16:16.140 you know,
00:16:16.520 over the past couple of years,
00:16:17.600 I've done MMA
00:16:18.660 and wrestling podcasts
00:16:19.940 and radio shows.
00:16:20.940 And I have talked
00:16:22.480 about events in Riyadh
00:16:24.000 and UFC going there
00:16:25.900 and building their relationship
00:16:27.240 with His Excellency over there.
00:16:29.420 I would be a hypocrite
00:16:32.400 if I said
00:16:32.960 that I stopped watching
00:16:34.420 the UFC
00:16:34.840 because they went
00:16:35.460 to Saudi Arabia.
00:16:36.300 So I'd be a hypocrite
00:16:37.120 to say that I'm going
00:16:37.680 to turn my back
00:16:38.300 on any of these comedians.
00:16:39.400 I'm just surprised.
00:16:41.140 Me personally,
00:16:42.040 I'm actually kind of
00:16:42.880 blown back
00:16:43.500 by seeing some of these names
00:16:44.980 because I,
00:16:46.180 maybe it's my own fault
00:16:47.360 for painting an image
00:16:48.400 of these people
00:16:49.020 that maybe,
00:16:49.840 they're characters.
00:16:50.720 They're on stage
00:16:51.480 playing a character,
00:16:52.360 no different than a wrestler.
00:16:53.820 Right?
00:16:54.700 Maybe I,
00:16:56.180 to me,
00:16:56.540 I just thought that
00:16:57.180 a guy like Jimmy Carter
00:16:58.240 wouldn't do this.
00:16:59.460 Not on my belief system.
00:17:01.020 Based off of his belief system
00:17:02.340 and the way
00:17:02.640 that he has portrayed himself,
00:17:03.920 I just see this
00:17:04.740 as a complete 180
00:17:05.760 from who I thought he was.
00:17:08.420 So then I'm left
00:17:09.340 with a kind of a,
00:17:10.080 I think it's a,
00:17:12.400 it is what it is
00:17:13.240 and this is the way
00:17:13.860 the world is
00:17:14.560 kind of feeling from it.
00:17:15.940 David Cross,
00:17:16.720 what do you think?
00:17:19.360 Sorry,
00:17:19.800 his glasses got me.
00:17:22.720 I'm a little less
00:17:23.860 casual about it.
00:17:25.280 You know,
00:17:25.580 I do kind of think
00:17:26.400 they're kind of hypocrites
00:17:27.420 for doing this,
00:17:28.500 even what I said previously.
00:17:31.180 You know,
00:17:31.720 again,
00:17:32.160 these were people crying
00:17:33.180 about,
00:17:33.820 you know,
00:17:34.080 being silenced
00:17:34.840 and what have you.
00:17:35.720 Then you go in
00:17:36.460 and work for
00:17:37.020 an oppressive government.
00:17:39.040 That's hard to argue with.
00:17:40.400 It is.
00:17:40.740 That right there
00:17:43.120 is like the sticking point,
00:17:44.940 you know,
00:17:45.420 allegedly.
00:17:46.100 And I'm very curious
00:17:46.760 what Bill Burr's reaction
00:17:48.720 to this will be,
00:17:49.740 like what he'll actually say.
00:17:50.840 Yeah, me too.
00:17:51.020 That's my next question,
00:17:52.160 you guys.
00:17:52.500 How do you think
00:17:53.040 they react
00:17:53.780 to the world's reaction?
00:17:55.220 Let's hope that
00:17:56.060 Bill Burr acts
00:17:56.800 the same way he did
00:17:57.640 during that
00:17:58.060 Opie and Anthony
00:17:58.720 festival in Philly.
00:18:00.100 Oh,
00:18:00.380 that would be the best
00:18:01.600 where he just tore down
00:18:02.640 Philadelphia for,
00:18:04.260 he made,
00:18:04.940 and at one point
00:18:05.520 he said,
00:18:06.880 no,
00:18:07.160 no,
00:18:07.360 no,
00:18:07.560 I'm doing my full 15.
00:18:09.460 Hey guys.
00:18:10.280 I don't care.
00:18:11.980 No,
00:18:12.380 I can't even say,
00:18:13.160 I can't even joke
00:18:13.780 about what he would say
00:18:14.720 if he was on stage
00:18:15.620 mad at Saudi Arabia
00:18:16.760 and being,
00:18:17.820 you know,
00:18:18.500 because in Canada
00:18:19.180 you'll get cancelled
00:18:19.960 because we have
00:18:20.560 similar speech laws
00:18:21.880 apparently.
00:18:23.060 Yeah.
00:18:24.040 Yeah,
00:18:24.520 no,
00:18:24.660 but I,
00:18:24.940 and I do see
00:18:25.500 that side of it,
00:18:26.180 Nick,
00:18:26.360 that's really hard
00:18:27.120 to justify
00:18:27.860 that a country
00:18:29.140 that is so oppressive,
00:18:31.220 you'd want to go
00:18:31.980 and participate
00:18:32.620 in comedy
00:18:33.880 that is so,
00:18:35.080 you know,
00:18:36.100 meant to be
00:18:36.660 so open
00:18:37.680 and so unoppressed.
00:18:39.500 But I do agree
00:18:40.240 with you that,
00:18:41.600 you know,
00:18:41.780 we shouldn't be
00:18:42.160 taking these people,
00:18:42.980 I think this is evidence
00:18:43.940 that we should not
00:18:44.700 be taking these people
00:18:45.560 as seriously
00:18:46.200 as we have
00:18:47.000 in the past
00:18:47.660 10 years or so.
00:18:49.020 Yeah,
00:18:49.420 100%.
00:18:50.100 I remember
00:18:51.840 comedians having
00:18:53.200 garbage opinions
00:18:53.880 when I was young,
00:18:55.740 you know,
00:18:56.520 Sam Kinison,
00:18:57.700 Jim was talking
00:18:58.380 with a Sam Kinison
00:18:59.080 bit about kids
00:18:59.760 in Africa.
00:19:00.400 I think that joke
00:19:00.860 sucks.
00:19:01.740 Right.
00:19:02.000 You know,
00:19:03.180 I don't agree
00:19:03.960 with him at all.
00:19:04.540 It was never,
00:19:06.060 that's the thing,
00:19:06.960 we need to be able
00:19:07.800 to decide for ourselves
00:19:09.380 what's funny
00:19:11.080 and not funny
00:19:11.920 in that realm.
00:19:14.080 But I don't think
00:19:15.520 this is really
00:19:16.440 the same
00:19:16.840 in the sense
00:19:17.300 that those people
00:19:18.180 are taking
00:19:18.480 their regular acts
00:19:19.340 maybe updating
00:19:19.940 it a little bit
00:19:20.600 and performing
00:19:22.400 somewhere
00:19:23.060 and somehow
00:19:23.920 we put some meaning
00:19:25.300 behind
00:19:25.860 their presence
00:19:28.000 here.
00:19:28.580 You know what I mean?
00:19:29.320 Because they have podcasts
00:19:30.460 because they appear
00:19:31.840 on Joe Rogan
00:19:32.620 who by the way
00:19:33.320 is a comedian
00:19:33.940 and a fighter
00:19:34.640 and has been given
00:19:36.060 such elevation
00:19:37.940 by the whole world
00:19:39.660 that we take
00:19:41.580 all comedians
00:19:42.380 seriously
00:19:42.780 who have a podcast
00:19:43.540 or appear on one now.
00:19:44.740 like they have
00:19:45.320 real opinions
00:19:46.140 like they have
00:19:46.800 real weight
00:19:48.260 in this world.
00:19:49.720 You know,
00:19:50.060 maybe this is one
00:19:51.020 of the reasons
00:19:51.440 why I just loved
00:19:52.560 Norm and thought
00:19:53.340 he was the best.
00:19:54.180 Norm MacDonald.
00:19:55.240 He always played
00:19:55.980 the dumb guy
00:19:56.480 in the room.
00:19:57.600 Anytime the microphone
00:19:58.400 was put on
00:19:59.040 and he wasn't put
00:19:59.800 on the spot
00:20:00.360 or anytime he was
00:20:01.140 in the green room
00:20:02.140 somewhere
00:20:02.580 he always played
00:20:03.320 the dumb guy
00:20:03.860 although he was
00:20:05.380 the smartest guy
00:20:05.960 in the room.
00:20:07.180 He always played
00:20:07.820 the dumb guy
00:20:08.340 because he had
00:20:09.140 that same kind
00:20:09.700 of opinion.
00:20:10.400 It's not why
00:20:10.880 we're hired.
00:20:11.820 We're hired
00:20:12.400 to make people laugh
00:20:13.300 not spew out
00:20:14.780 our opinion.
00:20:15.900 Yeah.
00:20:16.220 I think that
00:20:16.860 that's where
00:20:18.000 I think we all
00:20:18.460 do agree.
00:20:18.960 A lot of opinionated
00:20:20.880 credibility
00:20:22.980 has been given
00:20:23.540 to comedians lately
00:20:24.500 and really
00:20:25.140 what I like best
00:20:26.880 about comedians
00:20:27.560 is that they say
00:20:28.220 something horrible
00:20:28.820 that makes me laugh
00:20:29.620 so hard
00:20:30.100 I can't feel my legs
00:20:31.100 for a half hour.
00:20:32.300 One of the most
00:20:33.420 openly criticized
00:20:34.620 comedians
00:20:35.440 in the world
00:20:35.900 right now
00:20:36.420 literally just stood up
00:20:38.160 for his belief system
00:20:39.880 on this
00:20:40.300 and said
00:20:40.700 stop calling me
00:20:41.660 and doubling
00:20:42.060 the money
00:20:42.580 because I'll
00:20:43.360 eventually take it
00:20:44.200 I'd rather you
00:20:44.640 just lose my number.
00:20:45.680 Shane Gillis.
00:20:46.280 Shane Gillis.
00:20:47.120 I guess they called him
00:20:47.920 they doubled it
00:20:48.640 he said no
00:20:49.380 they doubled that number
00:20:50.520 he said no
00:20:51.140 they doubled it again
00:20:52.000 and he said
00:20:52.280 lose my number
00:20:53.020 he can't
00:20:53.980 he can't call me anymore
00:20:54.960 because eventually
00:20:55.600 I will say yes.
00:20:57.480 Yeah.
00:20:58.340 Yeah.
00:20:58.800 So is that the stance
00:20:59.980 that you think
00:21:01.080 that comedians
00:21:01.680 should have taken
00:21:02.320 or do you think
00:21:02.920 that they should
00:21:03.420 like if you were
00:21:04.320 if you were the end all
00:21:05.960 be all
00:21:06.360 and your opinion
00:21:06.920 is the only thing
00:21:07.560 that mattered
00:21:08.040 Mike
00:21:08.400 just because we're
00:21:09.140 on your show
00:21:10.700 would you rather be
00:21:11.580 in the category
00:21:12.160 of the Shane Gillis
00:21:13.000 these people
00:21:13.680 be in that category
00:21:14.680 or would you rather
00:21:15.200 just go out
00:21:15.720 and get their bag
00:21:16.380 and stop everybody
00:21:17.940 judging them
00:21:18.520 like what do you think
00:21:19.860 or is that too
00:21:21.040 you know I just
00:21:21.460 thought of something
00:21:22.060 when you asked me that
00:21:22.980 and maybe
00:21:24.080 this is like a stretch
00:21:26.340 right
00:21:26.700 but maybe
00:21:27.800 these people
00:21:28.440 going and reflecting
00:21:29.540 different values
00:21:31.520 in that country
00:21:32.220 could change
00:21:34.180 some things
00:21:34.760 not if they're
00:21:35.720 but they've been
00:21:36.160 signed an agreement
00:21:36.760 not to say certain things
00:21:37.860 so negative
00:21:40.640 that's probably true
00:21:42.400 ladies and gentlemen
00:21:43.260 our guest this week
00:21:44.360 was Mr. Cross
00:21:45.400 and
00:21:46.160 Mr. David Cross
00:21:47.780 I just had to double up
00:21:48.640 that mic joke
00:21:49.380 just because that
00:21:50.380 was a perfect answer
00:21:51.260 Nick
00:21:51.540 yeah no I get that
00:21:53.280 it really was a good answer
00:21:54.040 I get that
00:21:54.660 right
00:21:55.040 I think that
00:21:56.780 maybe
00:21:58.040 it wasn't time
00:22:00.180 for the Riyadh
00:22:00.720 Comedy Festival
00:22:01.520 to
00:22:01.900 I mean
00:22:02.820 is it just
00:22:03.500 American comedians
00:22:04.420 by the way
00:22:04.780 I see a list
00:22:05.260 of American comedians
00:22:06.260 and of course
00:22:07.080 Jimmy Carter
00:22:07.600 Russell
00:22:07.680 Russell
00:22:08.520 now American
00:22:10.600 Julio
00:22:12.360 Iglesias
00:22:12.840 I didn't even
00:22:13.400 know he did comedy
00:22:14.140 well they had
00:22:16.980 a Saudi comedian
00:22:17.540 but his head fell off
00:22:18.460 oh
00:22:19.420 wow
00:22:22.480 if we made it
00:22:24.460 that far
00:22:25.200 you know what
00:22:26.020 it was almost
00:22:26.420 the end of the show
00:22:27.080 and you might have
00:22:27.660 noticed a really
00:22:28.260 rough cut just now
00:22:29.280 and that
00:22:29.940 that was caused
00:22:31.400 by Nick
00:22:32.180 right there
00:22:33.900 very funny joke
00:22:35.460 and you know what
00:22:36.140 we'll see you next year
00:22:37.400 at the Riyadh Comedy Festival
00:22:38.580 I think that one's
00:22:40.340 gonna kill
00:22:40.740 look
00:22:42.200 share your opinion
00:22:43.700 tell us what you think
00:22:44.760 by the way
00:22:45.500 to all the comedians
00:22:46.200 that I listed
00:22:46.680 and made fun of today
00:22:47.580 the ones that I forgot
00:22:48.580 were Mark Norman
00:22:49.560 not great
00:22:50.080 Chris DiStefano
00:22:51.980 I don't know
00:22:52.900 Kennedy
00:22:53.300 I like Norman
00:22:55.220 I'm just kidding
00:22:56.520 I like them all
00:22:57.160 except for Kevin Hart
00:22:58.200 thank you for joining us
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