00:23:13.820You know, Justin, if you get it watching the show, please call me.
00:23:16.860But, you know, he figured out that his lifestyle being in Toronto, traveling around in traffic and the day-to-day grind wasn't for him and his wife.
00:23:27.120Sold everything, leveraged himself, went in, bought a cattle farm and actually is doing fairly well last time I talked to him.
00:23:33.240And you hear these stories, but, you know, with automation and everything going on and the capital investment, you're starting to see the government, which is great.
00:23:42.340and I'm seeing it through BDC programs, which is really nice,
00:24:30.360It's an African tracking system, AI-powered.1.00
00:24:32.980I didn't want to do this because I wanted to.0.96
00:24:35.680i was just so frustrated over the the the software that my recruiters and i use i'm like i'll rather
00:24:41.180just go and invent her own and um i decided that i'm not going to incorporate that business in
00:24:46.120canada i'm going to incorporate in the u.s and and and i didn't want to deal with canada anymore
00:24:49.940especially under you know trudeau's um more money than you could imagine uh went into this uh a lot
00:24:57.120more than i thought and would have reconsidered it before starting it probably yeah i knew it
00:25:00.880before the product even launches we're spending around eight grand a month on servers data centers
00:25:06.240and all that um and i didn't mind it and but i'm like i'm not i'm not doing it canada is a huge
00:25:12.560problem and with canadians that are starting their businesses in the us so we're not even
00:25:17.600paying taxes here for corporations we're all paying for it in the us his new program um they
00:25:23.120actually if you're using a canadian data center they'll refund you about 50 of the cost if you're
00:25:29.120using azure or or aws if you're using a canadian based uh data center like they're they're a small
00:25:34.880company in canada they'll refund you out of 75 80 percent i look at that i looked at all the other
00:25:40.720government government programs mark carney created in the new i think it was june 4th when he announced
00:25:45.440it i i said i'm moving my corporation back over here oh nice i did it yeah i i i said i'm going
00:25:53.200to move it back over here it makes sense finally to be here in canada um and i did it you know
00:25:58.240microsoft gave us um credit uh the government of canada gave us credit and it made sense to
00:26:03.680bring businesses over here um agriculture over here we're still not innovating we're buying
00:26:08.720we're purchasing from other countries and and you think you think canada would be the number
00:26:13.120one innovator because it's cold you know 70 of the year we can create ways around it and and
00:26:20.080we're not um so innovation is where it should be i don't think the credit should just be to go and
00:26:24.960just incorporate ai into your existing but to innovate ai is where it should be um we need to
00:26:30.880have you know governments going in and properly funding actual businesses not just saying that
00:26:35.360hey if you incorporate ai so they have a chance to do it you know who does this really well by
00:26:40.240the way who israel when you look at israel i was gonna ask you yeah when you look at israel it is
00:26:45.680you know a very very tiny country yeah um it has one of the best agricultures in the world i went
00:26:50.560to costco the other day and i saw pomegranates from israel because they're they're one of the
00:26:54.160best when it comes to vertical farming um they don't even import that much because they can
00:26:59.120they just grow their own fruits their own vegetables for such a small country and they
00:27:03.520they're agriculture experts their innovation it is incredible um you look at a country that is just
00:27:10.560based on survival and forget the politics behind everything else just let's let's talk about the
00:27:14.880innovation side of it um they have no resources whatsoever zero they have no natural they have
00:27:21.040known they were just in the desert um yet they managed they knew that they needed you know to
00:27:26.800get have control over their own water um they are the number one country and the innovators and the
00:27:32.320founders of distilling water from the ocean into into drinkable water in fact israel has a problem
00:27:38.480that they have too much water uh the drinking water so they ask people to actually leave the
00:27:42.880faucets on and all that they did such a good job at it but they did it because of survival they
00:27:47.680needed it for their own survival and they innovate and they create it now they're actually going to
00:27:51.600all the other countries around africa and other parts of the world uh and they're training them
00:27:55.520on how to build that entire system to take ocean water um and convert it into drinking water and
00:28:00.720then all the access salt they actually sell into chemicals and you know skin care and all that where
00:28:05.440you can actually make money off of it but that's what happens when you you have a need and you did
00:28:10.320same thing with agriculture by the way they realized that hey we can't depend on any other
00:28:15.040country we need to do this on our own and now they're exporting it and the technology
00:28:18.800so what is canada doing to innovate on the technology side i i generally don't know i
00:28:24.080don't have that i i tried i really really tried googling it when was the last time we had a
00:28:28.400company in canada go for an ipo i think it's been years yeah no we're not doing anything we're not
00:28:33.760i don't think we've had a real canadian company go for an ipo um it's one of the let's see the
00:28:38.720actually opposite the truth they're delisting more than they're listing so yeah yeah so when you look
00:28:44.320at your your first question how do you get canadians back over there we we first of all we
00:28:50.800need to train them we need to educate them about all the jobs all the opportunities i live downtown
00:28:55.040i don't know a single person has done it but also um you know within the world of downtown i don't
00:28:59.920know a single person has ever even thought about farming or thought about innovating um but at the
00:29:04.880same time out of all my friends i'm the only one who lives downtown everybody else moved up north
00:29:09.120king city and and you know are even more than right than that so there is an opportunity oh i
00:29:15.440think there is i think there is you know the void though you know and i think you hit on it it's
00:29:20.960trying to figure out a way to get people through to get those skills to actually do it and and get
00:29:26.960there going to countries like israel so that's an interesting one because you know all the focus on
00:29:32.560on israel lately but you know techno technology wise they're very savvy country they've actually
00:29:38.560figured out a lot of processes like you said being in the middle of the desert we do a lot of shows
00:29:43.920actually where we talk about norway because norway has been a very interesting focus of ours for the
00:29:49.040last few months and and you look at norway and you look at all the innovative things they do in their
00:29:55.120climate it's amazing like israel they've advanced their technology they've created a wealth fund
00:30:00.560you know they use oil strategically they do all these really cool things that actually build the
00:30:05.600communities we have it we talk about it we talk about us being mineral resource water resource
00:30:11.280we talk all about all these things we need to start figuring out how to do it and align it
00:30:16.080that's the crazy thing that i'm so happy you you said i'm moving my company back to canada that's
00:30:22.160amazing now you know trying to help this government figure out how to align the pieces that's that's
00:30:28.320you know where we talk a lot on the shows we do at tpl um to try to get people and you know one
00:30:35.680of the things we're we're constantly talking about is you know how to use ai um strategically to do
00:30:43.040that the challenge right now is you know ai ai in agriculture or ai in the rural west um it's being
00:30:51.680rebuffed a little bit right people are kind of going oh i'm okay i don't need a data center i
00:30:56.480don't need any so we're kind of as canadians we're kind of hot and cold on this idea do you when you
00:31:02.160talk to your clients you know are are they talking about kind of data centers in the west you know
00:31:08.400what they're going to do they need employees that's what they talk to me they need employees
00:31:12.640their companies clients are getting upset clients are leaving them there and the client is just
00:31:19.440going down to another logistics company down the street and that is facing the exact same thing
00:31:24.240they need they need employees that's the first thing they're thinking of yeah uh it's they're
00:31:29.040not filling jobs they're not and we're trying to and uh we're trying to figure it out we're
00:31:34.240we're trying to figure out how to exactly recruit candidates um for them but the truth is it is very
00:31:39.200very difficult right um that's the number one thing data centers we looked them for we looked
00:31:46.000at them for different for for recruitable for our software company and again i i think you kind of
00:31:50.960have to stick with the big ones which really sucks rogers is not doing a really good job with it to
00:31:55.600be honest rogers is getting more subsidy than anyone else yet they're innovating the least
00:32:00.080i don't understand why we're giving money towards them and for their innovation it makes absolutely
00:32:04.720no sense um data centers could be you know huge but if we had if we had the electricity cost if
00:32:12.880we had everything else it makes no sense it just doesn't we have the we have the cold we have the
00:32:18.560water we have the hydroelectricity you know bell's gone into it big time right saskatchewan you hear
00:32:24.800about it um but you know uh they've been rebuffed in other places you know alberta just shut down
00:32:30.880kinetic core right so there's there's hit and miss when you go to the west coast to see who's
00:32:36.160really gonna get into data centers and make it work and and it's a shame because manitoba also
00:32:42.240you know jet ai got turned down so how do you how do you balance that out and if you can't find the
00:32:48.080right people even to get into farming how do you get people to go into technology in rural
00:32:52.960uh canada in the ai centers it's tough it is um i think this is where you know we start blaming
00:33:01.360the government we start blaming you know companies where they need to give them more
00:33:05.280incentives to to go over there companies you know i recruited for a company they had an incredible
00:33:11.120incredible guy over there who was bringing in you know x amount of number this was a
00:33:15.040for a logistic sales job um let's let's say i'm not going to give the action but let's say it's
00:33:19.680a million dollars a year in toronto they offered him 130k base and and and about 250 000 ote
00:33:26.240in winnipeg the the candidate brought in more than the the guy in toronto yet they offered him a a
00:33:31.840smaller salary and he's like why because that's the cost of living but he's driving more revenue
00:33:37.120who cares what the cost of living is he's driving more revenue to your business and they're like no
00:33:40.880okay well then now you're going to come to me and complain that you can't find people
00:33:45.580how is that on us he you know he drives more revenue how how is that on us right um so you
00:33:51.220know companies need to figure that out as well yeah well hopefully we will we're growing right
00:33:56.060so that you know and every day i think we're learning you know before you go i just wanted
00:34:02.360to talk tell us a little more about your company because we at the beginning you kind of gave me a
00:34:06.960you know a quick snapshot of it you're doing recruiting you're doing uh resourcing yeah you
00:34:13.760know just tell the tell the folks because i think it's interesting you know you came back
00:34:19.440you're making it happen how can you help like how can you help if i have a farm or i have a
00:34:24.320business out west how can you help them yeah if you have you know if you need employees anywhere
00:34:30.160you need operations directors technology people you need you have you know logistics employees
00:34:35.440uh we have logistics talent agency and what we do is we go out and we head hunt so we convince
00:34:40.400people to leave their current jobs and go out and you know to your job we need to create a business
00:34:45.120case of why that needs to happen we we've moved candidates from toronto to winnipeg it's happened
00:34:49.520we've done it multiple times we've done it from vancouver to eastern canada we've done it multiple
00:34:54.320times uh most people don't know that those jobs even exist right they don't know that it's an
00:34:59.360option it's it's very very doable uh i can i can assure you based on what we spoke before
00:35:05.040um people in toronto want to leave they want a quieter life they want all of it so as long as
00:35:10.000the companies offer the same salary and they realize hey i make 120 000 a year over here
00:35:15.840um you know here i'm getting all i can do is live paycheck to paycheck with a one-bedroom
00:35:19.520apartment if i move to halifax if i move to winnipeg i can get a house yeah with it um that's
00:35:24.720that's what we do we convince them to leave their jobs and and realize that there's a much better
00:35:28.640you know life elsewhere uh but i'm going to put the blame back into the company and say you need
00:35:33.760to offer him the same wages thank you and thank you for taking the time today yeah great insight
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