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Should 16-Year-Olds Get the Vote in Canada？ ｜ Vote16.ca Debate


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The United Kingdom voted to lower the voting age from 18 to 16 years old, and there s a growing consensus that it would be good for democracy if we lowered the age of voting in Canada from 18 years old to 16. Why not introduce a voting age of 16 in Canada?

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00:00:00.000 What were you doing at the age of 16?
00:00:12.060 Full disclosure at 16, I was an absolute mess.
00:00:14.960 I couldn't do much of anything without supervision,
00:00:17.060 but times have changed.
00:00:18.740 And at 16, young men and women across Canada
00:00:21.660 are very, very sophisticated.
00:00:23.380 They're intellectual, they're knowledgeable,
00:00:25.120 they're educated, and they know things.
00:00:27.320 So should they be allowed to vote at the age of 16?
00:00:30.080 Because the United Kingdom just voted
00:00:32.220 to lower the voting age from 18 to 16,
00:00:35.020 and there's a lot of people, including politicians in Canada,
00:00:37.980 think it would be good for democracy
00:00:39.400 if we did the same thing.
00:00:41.020 Mike Wixon joining me.
00:00:42.220 Mike, how are you?
00:00:43.080 James, thank you so much for having me on.
00:00:45.280 I know that I come from the goofball side of things around here,
00:00:48.620 but this is a really interesting topic.
00:00:52.320 I'm happy to delve in as a dad
00:00:54.380 who was just past those teenage years.
00:00:56.740 The same, and a lot of countries around the world,
00:00:59.860 around South America, around Europe,
00:01:01.540 have done the same and followed suit.
00:01:03.360 And a mayor in B.C. pointed out something.
00:01:05.820 At 16, we trust our young people to drive.
00:01:09.080 They can pay taxes.
00:01:10.960 They can work, get jobs.
00:01:13.220 It's a legal age of consent.
00:01:15.080 Yeah.
00:01:15.480 Why shouldn't they be allowed to vote?
00:01:18.020 Well, it's a good question.
00:01:19.720 You know, I think that getting youth involved in some way at that age
00:01:25.520 makes a lot of sense because they're learning about it in school.
00:01:29.240 It's just at that place where, you know,
00:01:31.220 I took a look at the curriculum, and it does line up with, you know.
00:01:34.360 Civics and careers.
00:01:35.420 Absolutely.
00:01:36.100 And how bureaucracy works and, you know,
00:01:39.360 how being a citizen actually operates.
00:01:43.200 That's kind of in that sweet spot of education.
00:01:45.840 So it's a good time to get them.
00:01:47.800 Every year, every election, municipal, provincial, federal,
00:01:50.660 there's a complaint about the lack of voter turnout.
00:01:53.280 If you have engaged 16, 17, 18-year-old young people in the country,
00:01:58.820 and according to Stats Canada,
00:02:00.020 there's just over 1.3 million people in this country at that age,
00:02:03.860 that could really change the parameters and change the paradigm
00:02:07.520 when it comes to voter turnout in this country.
00:02:09.920 And it could swing a lot of seats in the country,
00:02:12.460 depending on how passionate they are about a leader, about a party,
00:02:15.900 about the people running and their riding.
00:02:17.840 Yeah.
00:02:18.580 You know, it's so funny.
00:02:19.700 As you were talking about this,
00:02:20.880 I started to chuckle because I thought, great,
00:02:23.260 I need more competition for my party in my own household.
00:02:27.800 But I can tell you this.
00:02:29.020 Based on the response that I get to my overall politics in life
00:02:32.680 and as an old grumpy guy, how I feel about stuff as a Canadian,
00:02:36.280 I know that I would have opposition right there every night at the dinner table
00:02:40.400 if they were actually engaged in a vote themselves.
00:02:43.240 And I will say this, as our daughters and our family,
00:02:46.440 my partner and I, as they exited the teens and now in their 20s,
00:02:50.320 they've become quite knowledgeable in their own way
00:02:54.080 about what the touch points are in politics in Canada,
00:02:57.380 whether it's social services, infrastructure, healthcare, education,
00:03:03.460 protecting women's rights.
00:03:05.140 That's something very important to them.
00:03:06.980 And maybe they don't consume it the old way,
00:03:09.360 watching Lloyd Robertson and Peter Mansbridge on the national news,
00:03:13.680 but they're doing it their own way through social media,
00:03:16.160 through TikTok, through Instagram.
00:03:18.060 And they have a lot more knowledge about the topics
00:03:21.120 and what's important to them than I think we give them credit for.
00:03:23.900 I wonder if that's true because I see a lot of stuff on social media
00:03:28.300 that is Bigfoot chasing around a politician
00:03:32.680 between AI and topic matter that is not verified.
00:03:37.980 I mean, that's one thing social media does.
00:03:40.080 It gives a lot of opinions.
00:03:42.060 And everybody's got, anyway, it doesn't matter.
00:03:45.540 Everybody's got an opinion.
00:03:46.580 I had a little sentence,
00:03:47.920 but I don't know how clean you like to keep it around your land.
00:03:50.040 But what I think is that if that's our leading new voting population
00:03:56.940 and they're being led not by credible news,
00:03:59.320 but by social media, by what's happening on Reddit,
00:04:04.080 even if they dove deep,
00:04:06.000 you get into some of the sub-stack stuff
00:04:07.700 and it's not exactly accurate.
00:04:09.440 It's more conjecture.
00:04:11.440 But are they getting their information from their local party,
00:04:14.860 their local person running for whatever party in their writing?
00:04:18.040 Are they engaging in candidate meetings?
00:04:21.460 Are they watching debates?
00:04:22.940 Are they consuming different streams of information?
00:04:26.760 Maybe it's not mainstream media,
00:04:28.520 but maybe they are as informed as maybe other people,
00:04:31.540 but in their own way.
00:04:32.760 Can you imagine if the local politician,
00:04:35.300 part of their campaign is,
00:04:36.860 I've got to go to every high school in the neighborhood
00:04:38.560 and really make a case because these people are voting
00:04:41.120 and I need to hear what they have to say?
00:04:43.000 Now, it does make me wonder, Jim,
00:04:45.100 and I don't want to say it in this way,
00:04:47.100 but I've had teenagers and these are soft individuals.
00:04:50.280 These are liberals with a huge L,
00:04:52.960 which of course-
00:04:53.680 Are they all though?
00:04:54.940 Not all of them.
00:04:55.780 This is the truth.
00:04:56.620 You're right about that.
00:04:57.320 And here's what we found with the last federal election.
00:04:59.920 A lot of young people have great concern
00:05:02.260 about the ability to rent a place on their own,
00:05:05.100 home ownership, the cost of food, the cost of living,
00:05:08.980 and they're wondering for their own purposes,
00:05:11.180 not for the boomers and not for the retired people, 0.86
00:05:13.440 but for them as they look forward to the future,
00:05:16.080 can they own a place to live in Canada?
00:05:18.180 And what party is going to help them?
00:05:19.500 You know, I look around the room because we were at,
00:05:21.860 I can't remember what event it was,
00:05:24.680 but there was a young man at one of these political rallies
00:05:27.260 back around election time.
00:05:29.380 Jim, it blew my mind.
00:05:30.300 He approached us and had a conversation with us
00:05:34.420 about how he and all of his friends, 15, 16, 17,
00:05:39.120 were going to all of the conservative rallies
00:05:41.460 because they wanted to start to support
00:05:43.800 the conservative party now,
00:05:45.480 that they wanted to influence their family,
00:05:48.000 their friends, and when it was time to vote,
00:05:51.900 that they would have this edge out there.
00:05:54.560 So you may be right.
00:05:55.840 I don't know.
00:05:56.280 I say it in jest because I get told that I'm too harsh
00:06:00.440 on the economic side of things,
00:06:02.820 that I ask too many questions
00:06:04.340 about how we're doing immigration in this country
00:06:06.300 and how we're leaving migrants with their hands in the air 0.82
00:06:10.860 and that sort of thing.
00:06:12.780 And I get a lot of blowback from the youth in my household
00:06:17.240 that is more in line with the virtue than the reality.
00:06:21.360 It's a difficult question.
00:06:23.260 My grandfather immigrated to Canada post-World War I
00:06:27.580 when he had no hope at all in Europe.
00:06:29.660 My in-laws immigrated to Canada post-World War II
00:06:33.220 when their country was shattered from the war
00:06:35.260 and they had nothing.
00:06:37.100 And this is a nation built on people
00:06:39.540 coming for the hope of a better good.
00:06:42.840 I just actually finished reading Pierre Burton's
00:06:45.040 The Last Spike.
00:06:46.340 That's a classic.
00:06:47.720 And I've always wanted to read it,
00:06:49.300 but you realize that they were telling immigrants 0.96
00:06:52.500 from other parts of the world,
00:06:53.920 come to Western Canada, 0.65
00:06:55.120 we'll give you 160 acres
00:06:57.440 as we push the railway through
00:06:59.300 and you have some land.
00:07:01.220 And we're still in a lot of ways
00:07:03.140 an underdeveloped country,
00:07:05.100 comparatively speaking,
00:07:06.260 to the rest of the world.
00:07:07.700 Now, by being engaged politically,
00:07:09.760 our young people telling our politicians
00:07:11.400 of whatever stripe
00:07:12.920 that, hey, we want to grow as Canadians,
00:07:15.940 we want to bring people around the world,
00:07:17.560 but at the same time, we want you as politicians
00:07:20.000 to do the job to make sure
00:07:21.680 the infrastructure is there,
00:07:23.460 the housing is there,
00:07:25.040 you know, education is there.
00:07:27.420 And so, yeah, let's do this,
00:07:28.920 but let's do it the right way.
00:07:30.200 And I think it's okay
00:07:31.280 if a 16 or 17-year-old asks a tough question.
00:07:34.480 No, in fact, they ask really tough questions. 0.98
00:07:36.540 And sometimes they're dumb questions, 0.96
00:07:38.040 but they've been taught recently, 0.98
00:07:40.180 ask questions,
00:07:41.040 because only smart people ask questions.
00:07:43.420 I don't know if I subscribe to that,
00:07:44.640 but I do love that a youth would sit there
00:07:46.960 and really engage in
00:07:50.040 even uninformed discussion
00:07:52.880 about how they feel
00:07:54.060 about how the country's being run.
00:07:55.380 And what about this?
00:07:56.620 You've got a 16-year-old or 15-year-old guy
00:07:59.060 or girl that is just about to vote
00:08:02.220 for the first time.
00:08:03.460 They are afraid of what's happening here
00:08:05.340 financially in the future,
00:08:06.520 and they've not so, in the distant past,
00:08:09.780 maybe arrived here as an immigrant themselves
00:08:12.380 to a promised land that didn't have everything
00:08:15.440 that their family needed,
00:08:16.880 that didn't have all the resources
00:08:18.540 that were required.
00:08:20.040 Maybe they are in the sweet spot
00:08:21.740 actually to see what's going on.
00:08:24.880 Well, the stats are
00:08:27.060 that there are thousands of immigrants
00:08:29.920 in this country
00:08:30.760 who were trained as doctors and nurses
00:08:33.180 and other professionals
00:08:34.200 who are working at your local fast food store
00:08:36.780 or driving, nothing wrong with that,
00:08:39.200 but driving a delivery truck
00:08:40.420 when, at the same time,
00:08:42.300 I know from my mother-in-law
00:08:43.920 in her senior's home,
00:08:45.000 they're crying out for PSWs. 0.99
00:08:47.060 There's such a lack of personnel in healthcare.
00:08:51.200 They're always short nurses. 1.00
00:08:53.080 Short ER doctors are working themselves
00:08:54.960 until they're ready to collapse.
00:08:56.900 So maybe there's a way
00:08:58.220 through the different levels of government
00:08:59.800 to take these people
00:09:01.180 who are trained in the medical field
00:09:03.040 in another country
00:09:03.760 to qualify them to work in Canada.
00:09:06.400 I think that something has to happen.
00:09:08.040 I mean, I don't think it's any secret around here.
00:09:10.220 You know, my wife, my partner,
00:09:13.520 is a very skilled, trained, professional individual
00:09:18.860 in the mental health field.
00:09:20.580 Oh.
00:09:21.180 We need that more than ever.
00:09:23.380 And, you know,
00:09:24.380 as she goes through the process here in Canada,
00:09:27.300 yeah, I believe that there should be
00:09:28.920 some checks and balances.
00:09:30.400 I totally agree.
00:09:31.560 But I will tell you this.
00:09:32.680 I see things going on with her training
00:09:35.460 out of a different country
00:09:37.820 far advanced
00:09:40.020 to what's being required in this country.
00:09:43.120 So there might need to be a system.
00:09:45.100 And I would suggest that somebody look into it.
00:09:47.380 If you're 15 and thinking about voting,
00:09:49.320 maybe bring this up with your local politician.
00:09:51.740 How would it have been easier
00:09:52.940 for my dad, who's a neurosurgeon,
00:09:54.600 or my mom, who's a marine biologist,
00:09:57.980 to have gotten their qualifications,
00:09:59.320 pushed along to help our family out?
00:10:01.640 Because the struggle between that point
00:10:04.740 and success is hugely encumbered by that.
00:10:10.700 Well, I mean, it's good for the country
00:10:12.380 if we have more nurses and doctors,
00:10:14.320 and it's good for the immigrant experience
00:10:16.120 if they come here,
00:10:17.620 and knowing that if they're working
00:10:18.840 in a manual labor job,
00:10:21.020 a menial job while they're training,
00:10:23.120 that there's light at the end of the tunnel,
00:10:24.720 that after 12, 18 months,
00:10:27.160 they've reached the qualification
00:10:28.500 in their province in Canada
00:10:30.300 where they can apply their skills
00:10:31.960 that they learned in another country.
00:10:34.180 Because, I mean,
00:10:34.820 if you look at a lot of small towns
00:10:36.180 in this country right now,
00:10:37.880 they are so desperate
00:10:39.600 for any kind of even nurse practitioner,
00:10:42.900 nurse, health clinic doctor,
00:10:46.440 or any kind of doctor
00:10:47.420 to service the community.
00:10:49.400 I don't think they're going to really care
00:10:51.500 what original country they came from.
00:10:53.740 They're in Canada now.
00:10:54.860 Yeah.
00:10:55.040 Let's train them up and let them work.
00:10:56.780 Let's get,
00:10:57.460 that's, I think,
00:10:58.240 what really needs to be tightened.
00:10:59.660 That span of time
00:11:02.040 and the process
00:11:03.080 and the finance,
00:11:04.240 I mean,
00:11:04.440 we really should be helping people financially
00:11:06.660 who arrive here with that diploma,
00:11:09.300 that degree,
00:11:10.360 that skill set
00:11:11.540 to immediately get into training
00:11:14.400 and get up to speed
00:11:15.380 as soon as possible.
00:11:16.920 Rather than,
00:11:17.980 you know,
00:11:18.560 filling positions at companies
00:11:20.660 based on,
00:11:22.040 on,
00:11:22.560 I don't know,
00:11:23.320 some sort of weird chart format
00:11:24.880 that is required.
00:11:26.140 Let's get skilled people back and,
00:11:28.660 okay,
00:11:29.020 so listen,
00:11:29.520 back to the kids voting.
00:11:31.520 And I say kids.
00:11:32.180 But this ties into it,
00:11:33.660 trust us.
00:11:33.940 It totally does.
00:11:34.780 Yeah.
00:11:35.060 But back to that,
00:11:35.800 it just,
00:11:36.220 as we talked about this,
00:11:38.200 it occurred to me,
00:11:39.060 what would campaign advertising look like
00:11:41.720 if we had to include 15 and 16 year olds?
00:11:43.800 It wouldn't include Mike Myers
00:11:45.140 from Wayne's World,
00:11:47.120 right?
00:11:47.920 You're talking about
00:11:49.340 a lot younger subsect of people,
00:11:52.480 a lot sort of younger personalities
00:11:54.280 to appeal to young Canadians.
00:11:57.000 I mean,
00:11:58.020 even if you say Justin Bieber,
00:12:00.200 he's almost out of their age group.
00:12:02.440 Yeah.
00:12:02.760 They're looking at maybe someone from,
00:12:04.880 you know,
00:12:05.220 a Canadian version of BTS
00:12:06.940 if there is one.
00:12:08.100 But you have to look,
00:12:09.540 I mean,
00:12:09.760 if you're a part of-
00:12:10.560 There must be one.
00:12:11.140 I just think we can't think of it right now.
00:12:12.600 Exactly.
00:12:13.280 Well,
00:12:13.400 if there isn't one,
00:12:14.980 there should be one.
00:12:15.640 There's definitely a void in the market
00:12:17.560 you and I should fill.
00:12:18.640 But the point being is,
00:12:20.180 no matter what your political party,
00:12:21.820 and if you're a campaign manager,
00:12:23.860 whomever your candidate is,
00:12:25.400 you'd have to do some due diligence
00:12:27.380 on 15, 16, 17 year old kids.
00:12:31.540 What movie are they watching?
00:12:32.900 What songs and music are they listening to?
00:12:35.320 What is their,
00:12:36.080 maybe there is an influencer,
00:12:38.420 a Canadian influencer in social media
00:12:39.980 who is very popular with that age group
00:12:42.460 that will help get the message across.
00:12:44.540 I wonder.
00:12:44.960 And the other thing is,
00:12:45.720 does that make our candidate selection
00:12:47.480 completely different as well?
00:12:49.440 Does that bring down a,
00:12:50.620 you know,
00:12:51.300 I don't,
00:12:51.720 oh my God,
00:12:52.140 I don't want my dad running for prime minister.
00:12:54.320 I need somebody that's more a peer,
00:12:56.840 more of my contemporary.
00:12:58.380 So what if it is someone in their 30s?
00:13:00.540 Is that the worst thing to say?
00:13:01.820 They're educated and experienced.
00:13:03.300 They're in their 30s,
00:13:04.000 so they're not too far removed from the teen world,
00:13:06.360 but they don't look like your dad.
00:13:07.840 And once upon a time,
00:13:10.260 John F.
00:13:10.660 Kennedy got elected,
00:13:11.800 you know,
00:13:12.140 and they thought it's unbelievable.
00:13:13.140 He's in his 40s.
00:13:13.940 How could that be?
00:13:14.900 Because all the presidents up until then
00:13:16.600 were really old men.
00:13:18.520 I don't think there's anything wrong
00:13:20.000 with younger people,
00:13:21.500 people of different backgrounds,
00:13:23.160 attaining higher office.
00:13:24.400 It would be good for the country.
00:13:25.860 Yeah.
00:13:26.100 And I think it would be good
00:13:27.060 for a lot of the younger people
00:13:28.160 to see that hope that,
00:13:29.340 oh,
00:13:29.420 maybe I should get into politics.
00:13:31.100 You hear that youth pastors,
00:13:32.920 get your campaign ready.
00:13:34.860 Well,
00:13:35.040 some like good potentials.
00:13:37.160 And that leads us to the next thing
00:13:38.620 we want to talk about.
00:13:39.540 It is social media.
00:13:40.760 And social media played a huge part in,
00:13:43.100 well,
00:13:43.300 now it plays a huge part
00:13:44.960 in all elections in all countries.
00:13:46.860 But it also does a lot of harm.
00:13:49.140 And there's a lot of people concerned
00:13:52.020 about the 13,
00:13:53.980 14,
00:13:54.680 15-year-old young person
00:13:55.880 with social media.
00:13:56.720 And they're doing in-depth research
00:13:58.920 saying the potential risks
00:14:00.720 are mental health issues,
00:14:02.760 anxiety,
00:14:03.640 depression,
00:14:04.700 cyberbullying,
00:14:05.980 exposure to harmful content,
00:14:08.280 and privacy concerns.
00:14:09.680 In Australia,
00:14:10.440 like a lot of other countries,
00:14:11.760 just voted
00:14:12.420 to make it illegal
00:14:14.120 for anyone under the age of 16
00:14:16.180 to have social media.
00:14:18.800 Sorry, what?
00:14:19.500 So that in Australia now,
00:14:22.980 you have to be 16 or over 0.91
00:14:24.360 to have social media.
00:14:25.740 And there's a lot of sociologists
00:14:27.500 and a lot of experts in Canada
00:14:29.480 thinking,
00:14:30.060 and other countries
00:14:30.780 who are looking at
00:14:31.500 what Australia is doing,
00:14:32.760 which is a very progressive
00:14:33.960 Western country,
00:14:34.780 much like Canada,
00:14:36.120 and thinking,
00:14:36.880 that's not a bad thing
00:14:38.480 to say you have to be 16
00:14:39.760 in Canada
00:14:40.400 until you get social media.
00:14:43.540 God,
00:14:44.160 what would the kids do?
00:14:46.060 Well,
00:14:46.480 there's other things you can do.
00:14:48.100 Like what, Jim?
00:14:48.620 Give me one thing.
00:14:50.680 Take a walk.
00:14:51.680 Do your homework.
00:14:53.020 Oh.
00:14:54.560 Help around the house.
00:14:56.440 Do chores.
00:14:57.700 Right.
00:14:58.500 You still have your phone.
00:15:00.500 You could still call your friend.
00:15:02.980 You could still text your friend.
00:15:04.060 What are we going to talk about?
00:15:04.880 There's no memes.
00:15:05.720 I got no memes.
00:15:07.040 Like I think that
00:15:07.960 this is a great notion.
00:15:09.540 Yes.
00:15:10.000 But I also think
00:15:10.860 that the unplug
00:15:11.480 is going to be
00:15:12.240 a really big,
00:15:13.580 big challenge.
00:15:15.500 There's no question
00:15:16.440 it's going to be
00:15:16.940 a big challenge.
00:15:17.580 And they've done research
00:15:19.820 and they're so worried
00:15:22.340 about the 13
00:15:23.740 to 18-year-old group
00:15:24.860 and the rise
00:15:26.320 of social anxiety,
00:15:29.160 depression
00:15:29.640 among adolescents.
00:15:31.700 And they're feeling
00:15:32.680 that maybe,
00:15:33.440 just maybe,
00:15:34.640 that this could help it
00:15:36.040 if 14 to 15-year-olds
00:15:37.460 and 13-year-olds
00:15:38.340 are not trying
00:15:39.320 to compare themselves
00:15:40.340 with body image
00:15:41.660 and lifestyle
00:15:42.360 and income
00:15:43.720 through different levels
00:15:44.960 of social media.
00:15:45.820 Avoiding the trolls,
00:15:47.220 avoiding the hate
00:15:47.980 that comes with it
00:15:48.780 and waiting
00:15:49.580 until you're maybe
00:15:50.200 a little more
00:15:50.820 physically and mentally
00:15:52.100 mature to handle it
00:15:53.100 as in 16 or over.
00:15:54.880 Have you ever had a case
00:15:55.660 of the TTDCs?
00:15:57.000 And what is that?
00:15:57.740 That's a TikTok douche chill.
00:15:59.320 When you see somebody else
00:16:00.300 doing their TikTok dance
00:16:01.980 and you know that that's,
00:16:04.220 they've set it up,
00:16:05.400 they've picked their wardrobe
00:16:06.360 and all that.
00:16:07.560 And you're the guy
00:16:08.120 in the distance
00:16:08.700 watching them do this
00:16:09.660 in a public place.
00:16:10.440 That's a TTDC.
00:16:12.620 But I wonder if
00:16:14.160 that expression of creativity,
00:16:17.300 that expression of self,
00:16:19.400 all of that is forgotten
00:16:22.040 and like,
00:16:22.600 let's strip this away.
00:16:23.700 Maybe what we need to do
00:16:24.720 is be educating our kids
00:16:26.000 to be better people.
00:16:27.560 You know,
00:16:27.740 don't be out there
00:16:28.520 using social media
00:16:29.360 for this purpose.
00:16:30.240 Don't be using it
00:16:31.000 to that purpose.
00:16:32.140 I mean,
00:16:32.580 if we really cared,
00:16:34.340 we'd take alcohol
00:16:35.180 off the shelves,
00:16:35.980 but instead we say to kids,
00:16:37.280 don't over drink.
00:16:38.280 When you get to that age,
00:16:39.540 don't over drink.
00:16:40.340 Or, you know,
00:16:41.200 we've got sugar
00:16:42.040 in the cupboard.
00:16:43.420 Don't eat all the sugar
00:16:44.360 in the cupboard.
00:16:45.220 All of that requires
00:16:46.560 a family,
00:16:48.820 a community,
00:16:49.840 some rules.
00:16:50.460 And better mental health
00:16:51.880 facilities
00:16:53.420 and support
00:16:55.140 in the community
00:16:56.040 and mental health experts,
00:16:58.340 especially in schools,
00:17:00.040 especially among
00:17:00.780 the youth,
00:17:01.280 which is lacking.
00:17:02.540 Well,
00:17:02.640 I think that there's
00:17:03.220 a certain lack
00:17:03.920 of camaraderie
00:17:04.640 when all you do
00:17:05.700 is post stuff
00:17:06.820 and your friends
00:17:07.720 send you love
00:17:09.080 and accolades that way.
00:17:11.740 Likes.
00:17:12.300 It's the quest for likes,
00:17:13.520 correct?
00:17:14.040 Yeah.
00:17:14.180 And so then you have
00:17:16.940 a situation where
00:17:17.940 By the way,
00:17:19.200 if you're going to do this,
00:17:20.640 the quest for likes
00:17:21.620 must end
00:17:22.500 because you will never
00:17:24.480 get the likes
00:17:25.220 that you expect
00:17:26.080 and you will get
00:17:26.560 all the hate
00:17:27.280 you don't expect.
00:17:29.320 And so I don't know
00:17:30.440 that the social media
00:17:32.440 environment is really
00:17:33.340 healthy for anybody.
00:17:34.720 You know,
00:17:34.860 you see child stars,
00:17:36.860 child celebrities.
00:17:38.200 Oh, my God.
00:17:38.920 I don't even know
00:17:39.480 what's going on
00:17:39.840 with Corey Feldman.
00:17:40.560 He was a child star
00:17:43.200 at one time.
00:17:43.700 And the net result
00:17:44.960 of it.
00:17:45.700 Britney Spears.
00:17:46.980 Yeah.
00:17:47.700 Yeah.
00:17:48.020 Her meltdown.
00:17:49.200 Listen,
00:17:49.780 I have close friends
00:17:51.140 that were child stars
00:17:52.240 that went through
00:17:53.920 major struggle
00:17:54.860 because even before
00:17:55.920 social media was there,
00:17:57.780 there was feedback
00:17:58.940 that was not natural.
00:18:00.820 Right?
00:18:01.160 So what do you do
00:18:02.000 if you're a 15-year-old
00:18:03.040 child star now?
00:18:04.140 If you're popular at 15,
00:18:05.660 if you're an athlete
00:18:06.480 or you're well-known
00:18:08.040 at 15 and you have
00:18:09.200 to deal with the hate
00:18:10.200 that comes out
00:18:10.740 in social media?
00:18:11.620 On top of that.
00:18:12.440 On top of that.
00:18:13.260 Because the problem
00:18:14.200 is back then,
00:18:15.800 unless someone ran into you,
00:18:18.260 they couldn't anomalously
00:18:20.060 troll you.
00:18:21.180 Oh, easy for you 0.90
00:18:21.880 to say, Jim.
00:18:22.800 But the problem is that...
00:18:23.880 Anonymity is the biggest problem.
00:18:25.860 Absolutely.
00:18:26.140 Because it creates
00:18:27.640 imagery that is not real.
00:18:29.280 It creates body types
00:18:30.220 that aren't real.
00:18:30.780 Add AI to it.
00:18:32.260 And now you've got scenarios
00:18:33.560 that aren't real.
00:18:34.200 The other day,
00:18:34.980 I saw that Joe Biden
00:18:37.380 now has tentacles
00:18:38.320 instead of ears.
00:18:39.080 I mean,
00:18:40.000 like what you're being...
00:18:42.960 Well, the AI...
00:18:43.880 Maybe it's my feed
00:18:44.900 and my algorithm,
00:18:47.280 but I get a lot
00:18:47.880 of weird AI nonsense
00:18:49.520 now that is just off-putting.
00:18:51.380 Everyone,
00:18:52.100 I don't care
00:18:52.660 what your feed is
00:18:53.480 and what your algorithm,
00:18:54.800 AI is seeped
00:18:56.440 into everyone's
00:18:57.200 social media feed
00:18:58.120 at every age group.
00:18:59.200 Yeah.
00:18:59.500 You could be a singer
00:19:00.420 in a quilting bee
00:19:01.580 and all of a sudden
00:19:02.980 you're getting AI
00:19:03.860 of some celebrity quilting.
00:19:05.520 It's that pervasive now
00:19:07.860 and it's that difficult
00:19:09.180 sometimes to tell
00:19:10.020 the reality
00:19:10.700 from the fantasy
00:19:11.540 from what's real
00:19:12.540 and what's not real.
00:19:13.360 Now, that's an adult
00:19:14.380 who's got life experience,
00:19:16.400 who's educated.
00:19:17.560 How does someone
00:19:18.220 14 and 15
00:19:19.220 who is still
00:19:19.720 figuring things out
00:19:20.740 figure out what's real
00:19:21.880 and not real
00:19:22.440 with AI and social media?
00:19:23.860 You know what I saw
00:19:24.340 last night?
00:19:25.220 What?
00:19:25.500 I'm flipping around
00:19:26.240 on Roku
00:19:26.880 and there is
00:19:28.580 a music channel
00:19:30.180 called TikTok Radio.
00:19:32.300 Really?
00:19:32.680 And all it does
00:19:33.660 is it plays music
00:19:34.860 in the background
00:19:35.460 and carousels
00:19:36.720 to the front
00:19:37.420 and you can see
00:19:38.560 the other ones coming
00:19:39.340 and the ones
00:19:39.680 that have gone
00:19:40.160 and it just carousels
00:19:41.500 to the front
00:19:42.060 random TikTok posts
00:19:43.840 and I thought to myself,
00:19:45.800 we need this?
00:19:47.280 Well, how much time
00:19:48.400 in a day
00:19:48.980 does the average person
00:19:50.520 waste looking
00:19:51.820 at their social media feed?
00:19:54.080 Realistically.
00:19:55.040 Now, we're telling
00:19:56.060 teenagers
00:19:56.720 who are piling on
00:19:58.320 an after school job
00:19:59.860 likely
00:20:00.300 of some sort
00:20:01.360 of after school activity
00:20:02.600 their school work,
00:20:04.620 their home life
00:20:05.700 and then they're
00:20:06.540 throwing this in there
00:20:07.560 and
00:20:08.520 They could turn it
00:20:09.660 into an educational property.
00:20:11.680 We were the mean parents.
00:20:13.120 We didn't let our kids
00:20:14.140 take their phones
00:20:14.960 into their bedrooms
00:20:15.760 at night when they slept.
00:20:17.020 We made them plug them in
00:20:18.100 and leave it
00:20:18.500 in the kitchen counter
00:20:19.340 and I get up
00:20:20.600 very early for work
00:20:21.640 and I would get up
00:20:22.560 and see text messages
00:20:23.840 on a Tuesday
00:20:25.280 at 1.30 or 2 in the morning
00:20:26.800 from their friends
00:20:27.640 who were not sleeping,
00:20:29.380 who were, you know,
00:20:30.700 looking for responses
00:20:31.740 and
00:20:32.700 fair or not,
00:20:34.480 like it or not,
00:20:35.520 a 13, 14, 15-year-old child,
00:20:38.400 a young person
00:20:39.100 needs a certain amount
00:20:40.240 of sleep
00:20:40.680 to function properly
00:20:42.160 the next day.
00:20:43.180 That's just,
00:20:43.760 that's science.
00:20:44.860 It's interesting that
00:20:46.160 it's funny that you say that
00:20:47.880 because I could almost
00:20:49.020 make a call
00:20:50.340 on the personality types
00:20:52.480 and problems
00:20:53.120 of my kids' friends
00:20:54.360 based on what time
00:20:55.440 they were getting texts
00:20:56.240 from that kid.
00:20:56.900 you know,
00:20:57.700 where's the mom or dad?
00:20:59.340 Where's the older sibling
00:21:01.440 that's not pulling
00:21:02.280 the phone out of their hands
00:21:03.160 and saying,
00:21:03.540 go to bed?
00:21:04.280 And where's the rules?
00:21:05.560 Where's the structure?
00:21:06.540 You have to make some structure.
00:21:07.560 Now, social media
00:21:08.580 is not all bad.
00:21:09.860 I mean,
00:21:10.200 that's why I wonder,
00:21:11.040 could we put it
00:21:11.720 into the realm
00:21:12.480 of education
00:21:13.400 because I learn,
00:21:14.280 I learn most of the stuff
00:21:15.900 I know, Jim,
00:21:17.040 on Instagram.
00:21:18.780 Well, there is
00:21:19.860 some good things
00:21:20.900 that you learn.
00:21:21.280 Now, this is
00:21:21.980 the classic
00:21:22.560 red solo cup.
00:21:23.660 It's at every cookout
00:21:24.540 and barbecue
00:21:25.200 and get-together
00:21:26.480 and beer pong
00:21:27.840 at every school
00:21:28.780 in the world.
00:21:29.900 I honestly thought
00:21:30.580 it was only
00:21:31.240 a beer pong item.
00:21:34.160 Yeah, well,
00:21:35.120 there are lines
00:21:36.040 on the cup
00:21:36.640 that start in the bottom
00:21:37.760 and work their way up
00:21:38.680 and they actually
00:21:39.380 have a purpose.
00:21:41.060 What?
00:21:42.100 The bottom line
00:21:43.380 is one ounce
00:21:45.040 is a shot.
00:21:45.940 Okay.
00:21:46.580 And then the next line
00:21:47.680 is four ounces.
00:21:49.260 The line up to that,
00:21:50.740 the next one
00:21:51.360 that jumps up
00:21:51.920 is 12 ounces
00:21:52.780 like you would see
00:21:53.560 in a soft drink
00:21:54.860 or beer can.
00:21:55.680 I don't know if you can see that.
00:21:56.260 And then it goes
00:21:56.820 14, 16,
00:21:57.960 to 18 to the top.
00:21:59.300 So each line represents
00:22:00.900 a figure
00:22:02.700 or amount of liquid.
00:22:03.900 Yeah, it's a measurement.
00:22:05.040 Yeah.
00:22:05.460 So you've got four ounces,
00:22:07.100 four ounces,
00:22:08.000 12 ounces,
00:22:08.940 14 ounces.
00:22:09.460 Right.
00:22:10.140 And then right to the top
00:22:11.080 is 18.
00:22:11.440 18.
00:22:12.340 Okay, so what I think is
00:22:14.560 this is an excellent gauge.
00:22:16.680 Yes.
00:22:17.080 Because you can actually
00:22:18.620 gauge the various universities
00:22:21.780 in Canada
00:22:22.540 by each of these lines
00:22:24.160 as well.
00:22:24.620 So for example,
00:22:26.000 at the four inch
00:22:27.240 or the four ounce mark,
00:22:29.460 Waterloo.
00:22:30.260 Welcome to Waterloo.
00:22:31.120 Enjoy your education.
00:22:32.460 They're scientists.
00:22:33.320 Come on.
00:22:33.740 They've got to really focus.
00:22:35.420 12,
00:22:35.840 and by the way,
00:22:36.440 they've probably got
00:22:37.360 some concoction
00:22:38.200 at Waterloo
00:22:38.920 that only requires four ounces.
00:22:40.620 Which is the equivalent
00:22:41.400 of 24 ounces.
00:22:42.440 Exactly.
00:22:43.120 12 ounces,
00:22:44.520 let's be honest,
00:22:45.980 high University of Calgary,
00:22:47.440 that's you right there.
00:22:49.520 And 14 ounces,
00:22:51.780 Queen's University
00:22:52.700 comes in at 14.
00:22:54.720 And of course,
00:22:55.140 anything above 14.
00:22:56.680 Bishops.
00:22:57.400 Bishops.
00:22:57.960 Bishops.
00:22:58.180 100%.
00:22:58.580 I hear it's quite the party.
00:23:00.560 All right,
00:23:00.780 there you go.
00:23:01.520 Our family,
00:23:02.220 we just had to buy
00:23:02.880 a new stove
00:23:03.420 because our stove died.
00:23:04.360 But where did you learn this?
00:23:05.800 This was a life hack.
00:23:07.040 A life hack.
00:23:07.760 And so our big struggle
00:23:09.580 is the new stove,
00:23:10.620 we love it.
00:23:11.220 It's one without
00:23:11.920 the little head in the back,
00:23:13.120 so it's all flat.
00:23:14.160 It's all uniform.
00:23:14.700 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
00:23:16.780 Is this a negative edge
00:23:17.840 stove?
00:23:20.220 An infinity stove?
00:23:21.720 Like an infinity pool?
00:23:22.840 It kind of looks like that.
00:23:23.840 And there's a little screen
00:23:24.480 in the front
00:23:24.920 that runs everything.
00:23:26.440 But in the bottom...
00:23:28.180 Why are you so rich?
00:23:29.740 No, it was cheaper.
00:23:31.860 It was cheaper.
00:23:32.980 So trust me,
00:23:33.880 so the bottom drawer
00:23:35.160 of my heart in her life,
00:23:36.600 she was really struggling
00:23:37.700 because it wasn't
00:23:38.540 as big as the old stove
00:23:39.580 because we put so much
00:23:41.100 baking sheets
00:23:41.740 and stuff like that.
00:23:42.580 I just found out,
00:23:43.680 actually...
00:23:44.800 Oh, you mean the...
00:23:45.800 Okay, so you put...
00:23:46.840 The drawer in the bottom
00:23:47.600 of your stove...
00:23:48.200 Yeah, where you put
00:23:48.560 the lids and stuff.
00:23:49.700 Is to keep food warm
00:23:51.460 and not be box and pants.
00:23:54.880 That's not true.
00:23:55.900 That's not true.
00:23:56.660 It's true.
00:23:57.400 That's supposed to be
00:23:58.160 what it's for.
00:24:00.000 It's a food warmer.
00:24:01.140 It is.
00:24:01.680 It's on the internet.
00:24:02.460 It's true.
00:24:03.560 Wait a second.
00:24:04.220 What you just said
00:24:04.840 is the craziest thing
00:24:05.680 I've ever heard.
00:24:06.180 It's on the internet.
00:24:07.080 It's true.
00:24:07.780 It's on the internet.
00:24:08.700 It's true.
00:24:09.320 Wow, Jim.
00:24:10.400 It makes sense, doesn't it?
00:24:11.860 I know.
00:24:12.540 So, and apparently
00:24:14.080 a garage is for your car, too.
00:24:16.100 Yeah, yeah.
00:24:16.580 Well...
00:24:16.860 Not in our house.
00:24:17.780 No, I was going to say
00:24:18.560 that's staying in the driveway.
00:24:20.100 I can't make any arrangements
00:24:21.340 for that.
00:24:21.900 There's too much in there.
00:24:23.120 See, that's something
00:24:23.980 I never would have...
00:24:24.780 I didn't know that.
00:24:26.240 How old were you
00:24:27.040 when you realized 0.99
00:24:27.780 that damn it, I'm mad 0.99
00:24:28.920 spelled backwards 0.99
00:24:29.700 is damn it, I'm mad? 0.99
00:24:31.660 Oh, you know what? 0.99
00:24:32.560 These anagrams,
00:24:33.920 I think that's called,
00:24:34.660 isn't it?
00:24:34.980 Now, these kind of fun
00:24:38.400 things like this,
00:24:39.180 they're frivolous
00:24:40.000 and trivial,
00:24:41.040 but that is fun.
00:24:42.100 No one's being
00:24:42.780 trolled over it.
00:24:44.420 No one's being
00:24:45.020 cyberbullied over it.
00:24:46.680 It's when young people 1.00
00:24:48.980 put something
00:24:49.680 on their social media
00:24:50.940 that they did in school
00:24:52.360 or that they like
00:24:53.300 or don't like
00:24:54.000 or they listen to this
00:24:55.000 and anonymous people
00:24:56.840 get on there.
00:24:58.420 People they don't know
00:24:59.320 with some sort
00:25:00.620 of fake account name
00:25:01.620 starts hammering at them.
00:25:03.420 And that's...
00:25:04.780 I can see how
00:25:05.760 a 13, 14-year-old
00:25:07.180 on social media
00:25:08.480 starts taking
00:25:09.600 verbal abuse
00:25:10.960 through their
00:25:11.580 social media feed.
00:25:12.680 How would it affect them?
00:25:13.960 How could it not affect them?
00:25:15.760 You know,
00:25:16.220 one of my favorite things
00:25:17.060 to do is go to Instagram
00:25:18.540 and by the way,
00:25:19.580 social media seems
00:25:20.800 to have
00:25:21.600 started to evaporate
00:25:24.720 in the lives of youth.
00:25:25.640 Anyway,
00:25:26.240 I'm told they think
00:25:27.640 it's goofy.
00:25:29.280 Well, okay,
00:25:29.840 well, I will say this.
00:25:30.760 Elon Musk
00:25:31.380 has helped kill X
00:25:32.980 for a lot of young people 0.82
00:25:33.960 because of who he is
00:25:35.960 and his affiliations
00:25:37.040 with Donald Trump.
00:25:38.680 I am...
00:25:39.640 Our lives,
00:25:40.240 our children,
00:25:40.920 they still like
00:25:41.780 their Instagram.
00:25:42.660 That's still...
00:25:43.040 That's probably
00:25:43.480 their number one.
00:25:44.420 There's a little bit
00:25:44.980 of TikTok,
00:25:45.900 but Facebook
00:25:46.480 is for old people 1.00
00:25:47.380 like me.
00:25:48.040 That would never happen
00:25:49.020 and they want
00:25:50.360 really nothing
00:25:50.900 to do with X.
00:25:51.920 Do what I do
00:25:52.500 when somebody shows me
00:25:53.520 TikTok around the house?
00:25:54.860 What?
00:25:55.340 Dad, you got to see
00:25:55.900 this TikTok.
00:25:56.560 I say the same thing
00:25:57.700 every time.
00:25:58.320 Get that spyware
00:25:59.560 off your phone.
00:26:01.600 I have no choice
00:26:02.680 in the matter.
00:26:03.240 I'm like,
00:26:03.580 until I watch it,
00:26:05.140 I can't leave.
00:26:05.960 I can't do the rest
00:26:07.440 of my day.
00:26:07.940 I can't get anything done.
00:26:08.900 I am actually
00:26:09.840 the subject
00:26:10.300 of three or four
00:26:11.280 TikTok videos
00:26:12.620 where I am
00:26:15.380 in the video
00:26:16.080 with my daughter.
00:26:16.880 So I have to say
00:26:17.840 I've been a participant.
00:26:19.080 So what our family does
00:26:20.320 is we have,
00:26:20.940 you know,
00:26:21.560 one daughter
00:26:22.280 in one province,
00:26:23.120 another daughter
00:26:23.660 in another province now.
00:26:25.100 So what we end up doing,
00:26:26.200 we have our group
00:26:27.020 text chat,
00:26:27.760 but we have our group
00:26:28.380 Instagram chat.
00:26:29.600 So we'll find silly things
00:26:31.620 and that's sort of like
00:26:33.500 we make each other
00:26:34.280 laugh every day,
00:26:35.480 which to me is a good way
00:26:36.560 because our kids
00:26:37.640 are busy living their lives
00:26:38.860 and doing their thing
00:26:39.560 in different parts
00:26:40.160 of the country.
00:26:41.200 And so, hey,
00:26:41.860 you might find this funny.
00:26:43.540 And I'll go,
00:26:44.240 oh, this is dad.
00:26:45.140 Oh, this is you.
00:26:46.240 And then it sort of
00:26:47.180 gives them a smile.
00:26:48.100 To me, that's okay.
00:26:49.220 By the way,
00:26:49.800 a shout out to Mass
00:26:51.380 and Kaz
00:26:52.420 and all my buddies
00:26:53.400 who are in
00:26:54.300 on the Degenerate
00:26:55.260 meme share on Instagram.
00:26:57.520 I love you.
00:26:58.560 You're the best part
00:26:59.200 of my day.
00:27:00.160 Thank you.
00:27:00.820 And that's my buddies,
00:27:01.980 Steve, Mike,
00:27:02.760 and Scotty from hockey.
00:27:04.060 And it's all 1.00
00:27:04.660 stupid golf videos. 1.00
00:27:07.000 The guys driving 1.00
00:27:07.880 the cart in the pond
00:27:08.860 and hockey fights
00:27:11.060 and stuff like that.
00:27:12.980 And that's what,
00:27:13.540 and like being,
00:27:14.840 being a dad
00:27:15.560 and being married
00:27:16.320 and doing,
00:27:17.800 like,
00:27:18.120 that's what we share all day.
00:27:19.280 Like literally,
00:27:19.880 it is one of my favorite
00:27:21.340 things to do.
00:27:22.100 So I can understand
00:27:23.100 if the family's got one,
00:27:24.360 that means the Langs
00:27:25.580 are pretty darn cool.
00:27:27.180 No, but I do,
00:27:28.300 I do see this.
00:27:29.240 I see all the bad things
00:27:30.760 that could be detrimental
00:27:32.540 to youth,
00:27:33.260 but I see that
00:27:34.000 in so many places
00:27:34.840 in so many ways.
00:27:35.940 For example,
00:27:36.600 scooters,
00:27:37.020 put a helmet on.
00:27:39.240 Oh, for the e-scooters.
00:27:40.700 Anything.
00:27:41.180 Have you seen
00:27:41.660 how fast Oak can go?
00:27:43.200 Yeah.
00:27:44.040 There's ways
00:27:44.740 that you can override
00:27:45.700 the system
00:27:46.300 and turn into
00:27:47.500 a speed demon,
00:27:48.620 into Evel Knievel.
00:27:50.100 Old reference,
00:27:50.860 1974.
00:27:51.800 You're welcome.
00:27:52.820 Or something maybe
00:27:53.760 from F1 the movie
00:27:54.840 with Brad Pitt
00:27:55.560 or Lewis Hamilton
00:27:56.380 from the real F1.
00:27:57.620 Exactly.
00:27:58.300 Right.
00:27:58.600 Like,
00:27:59.000 it's too much.
00:27:59.860 Speaking of which,
00:28:00.700 did you see the guy,
00:28:01.980 we are doing the show
00:28:03.140 from just outside Toronto.
00:28:05.100 We were in Toronto.
00:28:05.820 What am I talking about?
00:28:06.500 On the west end, yeah.
00:28:07.300 On the west end of Toronto.
00:28:08.500 Did you see the video
00:28:10.000 of the dude
00:28:11.060 driving on the sidewalk
00:28:12.240 in Brampton?
00:28:12.980 A very special place
00:28:13.940 to drive.
00:28:14.360 In a Lexus
00:28:15.120 at a pretty high rate
00:28:16.980 of speed.
00:28:17.440 Now,
00:28:18.080 I have been in parts
00:28:20.620 of North America
00:28:21.400 seeing people drive
00:28:22.460 on the paved shoulder,
00:28:24.060 back up on on-ramps
00:28:25.540 because there was
00:28:26.400 stuff like that.
00:28:27.560 But the rate of speed
00:28:28.560 that individual was,
00:28:29.720 who has been caught
00:28:30.560 and charged,
00:28:31.160 by the way,
00:28:31.580 for careless driving.
00:28:32.140 Oh, okay, good.
00:28:32.320 I was going to ask you.
00:28:32.740 Yeah, no,
00:28:33.100 they got charged
00:28:34.160 for careless driving.
00:28:36.240 Folks,
00:28:36.900 if you're stuck in traffic,
00:28:38.580 don't drive on the sidewalk.
00:28:40.020 Also,
00:28:40.620 like,
00:28:41.040 social media,
00:28:41.680 like we're talking about,
00:28:42.800 it's going to nip you
00:28:43.820 in the bud.
00:28:44.680 Trust me.
00:28:45.520 Well,
00:28:45.780 look what happened
00:28:46.460 in the Coldplay concert.
00:28:48.020 Oh, my goodness.
00:28:49.520 That is,
00:28:50.100 that is the biggest,
00:28:51.460 most viral thing
00:28:52.400 I've seen
00:28:53.060 in a long time.
00:28:54.880 That thing is bigger
00:28:55.960 than Coldplay ever has been.
00:28:57.720 It is bigger than Coldplay.
00:28:59.080 My kids,
00:28:59.720 who don't even really like Coldplay,
00:29:01.240 are talking about Coldplay
00:29:02.240 because of the viral meme.
00:29:03.620 You don't get to change
00:29:04.340 the name of the band
00:29:04.900 and cold sore now.
00:29:08.560 But again,
00:29:09.500 the recap,
00:29:10.580 I am in favor
00:29:11.660 of lowering
00:29:12.040 the voting age
00:29:12.780 in Canada
00:29:13.200 from 18 to 16.
00:29:14.520 You're undecided.
00:29:15.900 You're not sure
00:29:16.440 it's a good idea.
00:29:17.300 I say we try it once
00:29:18.660 and if we don't like it,
00:29:19.480 take it away from them.
00:29:20.600 Now,
00:29:20.960 I know in Australia,
00:29:22.220 they've gone
00:29:23.020 to the 16
00:29:24.840 and under 16,
00:29:26.420 you can't have social media.
00:29:27.820 I would cut it off
00:29:28.660 in Canada at 14.
00:29:29.900 15 and over,
00:29:31.060 you can have social media,
00:29:32.000 which would give you
00:29:33.100 sort of some buildup
00:29:34.300 towards an election
00:29:35.240 about being informed
00:29:36.500 and maybe getting
00:29:37.540 some information about that.
00:29:39.000 And on that note,
00:29:40.460 I oppose you
00:29:41.520 saying that
00:29:42.920 it is in the hands
00:29:43.880 of family,
00:29:44.580 parents,
00:29:44.980 communities,
00:29:45.500 and friends
00:29:46.060 to make sure
00:29:46.940 that we just behave
00:29:48.080 socially.
00:29:49.800 It's social media.
00:29:51.840 We need to build
00:29:53.600 our own boundaries.
00:29:57.740 We need to create
00:29:58.380 our own ethics.
00:29:59.400 We do,
00:30:00.340 but how many teens
00:30:01.880 have lied
00:30:03.620 in their application
00:30:04.780 and have betting apps now?
00:30:06.440 We're going to let them vote.
00:30:09.420 They're going to lie
00:30:10.160 on their vote.
00:30:10.820 They're going to use,
00:30:11.460 they're going to make
00:30:11.880 an AI vote.
00:30:12.800 But you can't.
00:30:13.920 Okay,
00:30:14.200 that's true.
00:30:14.840 You can't because
00:30:15.660 it's your birth certificate.
00:30:17.380 You can't when it comes
00:30:18.520 to voting.
00:30:19.300 Okay,
00:30:19.600 that's fair.
00:30:20.280 Yeah,
00:30:20.500 so voting,
00:30:21.660 you can't hack that
00:30:22.840 to vote in Canada.
00:30:23.820 I don't think so.
00:30:24.620 We're at this place
00:30:25.260 where we're talking
00:30:25.760 about them not using
00:30:26.700 social media,
00:30:27.380 yet voting.
00:30:28.920 It's a tough age
00:30:29.920 to be 15,
00:30:30.740 16.
00:30:31.100 Tougher than it was
00:30:32.300 when we were that age.
00:30:33.440 And just for the boys
00:30:34.720 at least,
00:30:35.540 I mean,
00:30:35.840 they're not going
00:30:36.180 to be focused
00:30:36.760 on anything
00:30:37.500 we're talking about
00:30:38.280 and I think
00:30:38.740 you know I'm right.
00:30:39.780 Well,
00:30:40.440 the point being
00:30:41.220 is the internet
00:30:42.660 and social media,
00:30:44.040 it can do good,
00:30:45.380 but what they're seeing
00:30:46.460 is,
00:30:47.000 and experts
00:30:47.540 and sociologists
00:30:48.440 and early childhood
00:30:49.540 education experts
00:30:50.540 are seeing
00:30:51.020 that there's
00:30:51.780 some worrisome trends,
00:30:52.980 body image,
00:30:54.220 cyberbullying,
00:30:55.040 mental health.
00:30:55.840 So it's not
00:30:57.680 a free-for-all.
00:30:58.420 It can't be a free-fall.
00:30:59.740 And even if Canada
00:31:00.580 doesn't get to the point
00:31:01.500 where they go to the measures
00:31:02.640 that Australia did,
00:31:03.980 there can be some checks
00:31:05.340 and balances in it
00:31:06.300 that makes it maybe
00:31:07.400 more palatable
00:31:08.160 for families.
00:31:09.460 And, you know,
00:31:10.460 a parent unfortunately
00:31:11.260 has to work
00:31:11.920 and has their own life.
00:31:12.840 They can't be a hover
00:31:13.800 around their kids 24-7.
00:31:15.600 No kid would want that.
00:31:17.140 So there has to be
00:31:18.000 a way to protect them
00:31:19.780 until they're old enough
00:31:20.840 to understand
00:31:21.380 what they're getting into.
00:31:23.000 Don't forget to follow me
00:31:24.200 on my new Instagram handle.
00:31:25.760 Jim Lang's trying
00:31:26.420 to take our social media away.
00:31:29.220 It's Langer's world.
00:31:30.780 It's very easy.
00:31:32.140 It's,
00:31:32.400 my kids bug me.
00:31:33.280 All it is
00:31:33.740 is me drinking coffee,
00:31:36.020 hockey stuff,
00:31:37.240 and the dog.
00:31:38.220 No, literally,
00:31:38.940 when I need
00:31:39.460 to get some rest,
00:31:40.300 when I need to turn it off,
00:31:41.440 I go to your social media
00:31:42.660 right away, Jim.
00:31:43.700 That would do it.
00:31:45.000 I'm honest to God,
00:31:45.900 that would do it.
00:31:46.800 You know what I do
00:31:47.320 when I need some peace?
00:31:48.160 I go over to MySpace.
00:31:49.220 There's nobody there.
00:31:50.140 It's very comfortable.
00:31:51.380 I'm Jim Lang.
00:31:51.800 He's Mike Wixson.
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