True Patriot Love - July 05, 2026


[Sneak Peek] Food Prices Are Rising… But Why Is Canada Paying More?


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While it's on the tip of everyone's tongue a couple of weeks ago, the Prime Minister came out with a national strategy for food and to dig deeper on that and see where we stand, our very own Food Professor, Paul Micucci, joins us to talk about his experience in the food processing plant in Toronto.

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00:00:00.000 This to me feels like a scam in a lot of ways.
00:00:03.040 I get it.
00:00:03.600 It has to come here.
00:00:04.520 But the cost by the time it gets here, it's obviously marked up in Ontario,
00:00:09.620 not just the processing and shipping,
00:00:11.420 but there's a mark up there that Albertans probably didn't bargain for.
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00:00:33.640 the conversation today the conversation is while it's on the tip of everyone's tongue a couple of
00:00:39.460 weeks ago the prime minister came out with a national strategy for food and to kind of dig
00:00:44.880 deeper on that and see where we stand our very own food professor thank you very much paul micucci
00:00:51.440 for joining us we've had the food professor uh on before yeah yeah i won't uh proclaim to be the
00:00:57.140 food professor but I do you know what I think I mentioned on previous shows Mike uh I grew up and
00:01:03.420 I worked actually at a place called Canada Packers which is a food processing plant in Toronto and
00:01:10.980 it was very interesting experience when my uh when I was young paint the picture for me because that
00:01:16.020 seems to me like a tough job so 5,000 people basically would go to work in this plant and
00:01:22.800 uh it was right by the stockyards which is on saint claire avenue down in toronto
00:01:27.680 rail cars would come in the cattle would come off it would go to the kill and then basically they
00:01:32.960 would you know go to slaughter and then from slaughter it would actually go into the line they
00:01:38.400 would you know cut up uh you know cattle into every piece you can imagine and use every piece
00:01:44.560 um and then the Heinz of beef would uh be put into the freezers uh and then loaded onto trucks and
00:01:52.480 then there was bacon there was uh cold meats there was cheese there was all kinds of different
00:01:58.540 divisions that were and then uh guns road which is on the back is where the hooves and all the
00:02:05.240 other things were melted down so the smell yeah it's it was a tough neighborhood to be in man
00:02:10.920 well it's gone now it is yeah it's gone now and quite frankly there's a whole story to that
00:02:15.300 because it actually became a housing development that was built on top of it which i don't i don't
00:02:19.940 even know how but it was and quite frankly i know i'm not living there anytime soon no that
00:02:25.380 neighborhood still has a certain stench to it i'll be honest with you at times yeah well guns
00:02:29.560 road still exists so there still are some food processing or there's still some uh things
00:02:34.880 happening on the back with respect to leather and and okay animals so there is a slight smell
00:02:40.440 not even compared to what it was before but you know i used to get on my car and it was just
00:02:45.000 wretched you know the first half hour just about to be sick yeah uh going in and we used to go in
00:02:51.000 so interesting and i'll tie it up but it was an interesting story we used to go through and we
00:02:56.200 used to get our whites um and it was uh it was basically a jacket a white jacket white pants
00:03:03.000 and uh because i had graduated from the kill area the stockyards where they used to bring the cattle
00:03:08.920 over into and the kill line into night loading i used to get this white hat and it was because
00:03:15.560 you're working in a freezer all night right so it was warm clothes um and i used to start off
00:03:20.600 and i used to get my meat hooks so they give me my meat i everyone got two meat hooks who worked
00:03:26.040 in loading and all night long uh the guy would be up on a perch and you would walk over and it'd be
00:03:33.400 the number on it for the truck you were loading and you would put your meat hooks in and he would
00:03:38.040 knock uh the the hind of beef off onto your shoulder and you would carry it across the
00:03:44.120 loading dock and drop it into the trucks all night so you do eight to ten hours a night that's pretty
00:03:49.800 manual labor that was really and that's carrying beef on your shoulders a heavy job and there were
00:03:56.200 you know it's interesting and that's how strong so they used to call them the bullhunk gang
00:04:00.200 uh which were the guys who did it full time and they were uh these uh little you know uh eastern
00:04:06.520 european italian uh these little guys but they were all muscled like a hundred percent and that's
00:04:12.120 what they did all night and they would joke around throughout the night and they would
00:04:16.200 they would actually carry like a hundred pound 150 pound hind of beef with no hands on their
00:04:21.320 shoulders and they would do all this crazy stuff and so my dad which is interesting because my dad
00:04:27.800 you know uh was a truck driver and he had trucks and worked there uh and uh basically he would come
00:04:35.160 in and he would show off also and he would grab like 250 200 pound hinds of beef and he would
00:04:43.960 throw them on each shoulder and he would carry them across the dock and put them on a and that's
00:04:48.600 how strong these guys were because this is dead different era man this is dead weight yeah right
00:04:54.360 so i ate you know you know you think i wouldn't eat red meat but i did eat a lot of red meat
00:04:59.320 because i was around it the whole time and the interesting thing when we got ready for this show
00:05:03.800 I said to Christophe when we were doing the prep, I said, out of curiosity, what are people in Alberta, Ontario, and Nova Scotia paying for top surly on Canada Day?
00:05:16.180 I mean, this is almost a luxury item for Canadians now.
00:05:20.680 It's priced so high.
00:05:22.080 Oh, yeah.
00:05:22.520 Well, it's crazy because I know, you know, whether, and I'm not even talking, here's the thing.
00:05:27.080 I'm not even talking grass-fed.
00:05:29.420 I'm not even talking organic.
00:05:31.560 I'm just like.
00:05:31.940 just regular store chemically stimulated chemically grown cattle right which you know
00:05:38.980 they don't even get any regular grass right so you're paying 30 so in alberta they're paying
00:05:46.740 30 a kilogram what are we paying in ontario well the interesting thing is we're paying less than
00:05:53.780 ontario the beef comes from alberta paul yeah i know but we're processing it right again this is
00:05:59.780 like oil right or gas oil and gas but this is like the same thing it goes down to montana gets product
00:06:05.620 process we buy it back at a premium so albertans are sending the raw the cattle to ontario or
00:06:12.260 wherever yeah it's being processed and they're buying it back at higher than we're paying retail
00:06:17.540 rates for the cattle that came from that province yeah i don't know i don't know if they actually
00:06:21.300 talk about it a lot in alberta and the west coast but why are they paying higher rates per kilogram
00:06:26.100 than we are in ontario so that's remarkable so which is crazy and uh nova scotia quite frankly
00:06:33.020 the same now nova scotia makes sense the east coast a little bit because the logistics to get
00:06:37.960 there i understand that but the west coast quite frankly the logistics can't be that difficult
00:06:42.820 right it's not that far especially when it's coming from there so i don't know why it's not
00:06:47.460 like four or five dollars cheaper but anyways that logistics cost must be so huge or it's being
00:06:54.420 justified that way ground beef ground beef the same so having a hamburger in alberta is just as
00:06:59.920 expensive as having a hamburger on the east coast ontario it's cheaper it's cheaper by about two
00:07:05.660 dollars processed volume distribution exactly right hot dogs but you think sorry i'm so sorry
00:07:12.300 but you think that that would be still not enough to make it more expensive than its source province
00:07:19.540 yeah that to me is just ridiculous i mean you're factoring in this to me feels like a scam in a lot
00:07:28.920 of ways i get it it has to come here yeah but the cost by the time it gets here it's obviously marked
00:07:34.920 up in ontario not just the processing and shipping but there's a mark up there that albertans
00:07:40.080 probably didn't bargain for yeah i was shocked but we were out and remember that was the
00:07:46.420 interesting thing our trip out to calgary and when we were eating in restaurants it was the same
00:07:52.980 price it was yeah so we were going to steakhouses we were having you know great barbecue it was the
00:07:59.140 same or more than we would pay in toronto so we weren't finding any incremental difference in food
00:08:04.780 costs from a restaurant perspective so obviously the restaurants weren't passing down any savings
00:08:09.700 they were getting if they and they're not but it doesn't i don't think they are any savings so they
00:08:14.220 were eating the two dollar extra kilogram and charging market rate which you'd pay in any
00:08:19.880 major city in canada you know it's interesting that you say this is uh albertans you're right
00:08:25.900 i don't hear this from them we hear it about oil and gas and frankly the last time i was in calgary
00:08:30.280 about less than a month ago gas was almost the same price that it was in any other province and
00:08:36.080 i thought to myself wow that's that's remarkable i get it now no one albertans complain i'm starting
00:08:42.620 to get it i know me too well you know it's funny because we did that show where we went through
00:08:46.820 across the nation and we looked at uh the price per liter of gas remember and we went to the
00:08:51.980 middle east and we're like you guys corrected me on the show which i was astonished i was so wrong
00:08:56.280 you guys like it's six cents a liter and stuff and i'm like six cents you guys are crazy i was
00:09:01.100 at like 80 cents and you're like no it's six and i'm like i know you were right and when i when we
00:09:05.480 dug into it and i was like oh that's crazy you know you come to the west coast of canada same
00:09:11.360 price we're paying everywhere else so food's just one of those markers that there's no benefit to
00:09:15.820 being any particular place in Canada real estate's really the last passion for that and even it's not
00:09:20.960 making that big a difference now yeah well and so the interesting when we dug into it a little
00:09:25.800 further then we dig into it a little further and what do we find food inflation in Canada
00:09:31.600 is actually the highest in the g7 so we are one of the lowest producing countries in the g7 our
00:09:38.520 GDP is garbage and our food inflation is the highest in the G7.
00:09:42.680 Yeah. 0.78
00:09:44.420 So, you know, if you look at it, we've seen basically in grocery stores,
00:09:49.460 year over year, we've seen a 4.3% increase.
00:09:52.940 So the highest, again, the highest food inflation amongst the G7 countries.
00:09:57.780 And then you look at things like that are...
00:10:08.520 Thank you.