True Patriot Love - June 27, 2026


[Sneak Peek] Rural Canadaļ¼š Immigration & the Future of Agriculture ft. Eden Morchaev


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9 minutes

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1,937

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5

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00:00:00.160 you have 100 000 refugees or 100 000 immigrants applying we can select who we want and we can
00:00:05.280 select do we want sales people do we want um warehouse managers do we want farmland people
00:00:12.000 do we want technicians we should be able to get the technicians and we should be able to set them
00:00:16.080 up in a proper way and and especially in rural canada western canada and put them on that career
00:00:21.440 path but they're not today on true patriot love i'm lucky to have edin mordecaev and we're going
00:00:32.000 to talk about canadian rural west and the economy and employment welcome thank you hey to be here
00:00:39.520 so interesting background i was talking to mike and he said i needed to talk to you because mike
00:00:44.480 just came back from the west coast of canada and he had crazy stories about what's happening in the
00:00:51.200 agri-world what's happening across western canada as far as employment so you're in that space yeah
00:00:57.600 so take us through give me a feel for what you're working with right now and some of the challenges
00:01:02.160 you're seeing yeah my as i mentioned before you know my background is in and global trade
00:01:07.280 compliance my title before was trade management executive so everything related to exactly what
00:01:12.720 we're talking about i currently lead a recruitment agency and recruitment in logistics hiring across
00:01:17.920 canada so everything from warehouse workers all the way up to operation managers directors and vps
00:01:24.160 everything related to logistics supply chain um so pretty much right up this alley yeah so what
00:01:30.960 you know people come to you i need i need someone from a logistics specialist on the west coast to
00:01:37.680 help me with my farming business with my rural cannabis who are they looking for right now so
00:01:43.200 this is the interesting because we do a lot of immigration shows and it's very interesting to
00:01:47.040 see in these shows you know they're saying okay we're not gonna uh we're not gonna get these work
00:01:52.800 permits extended we're not going to do this we're going to send people back who's who are they
00:01:58.640 looking for and why and and you know there's so many things going on with agriculture in the west
00:02:04.240 right now and so many opportunities and with automation and technology and engineering it's
00:02:10.080 so interesting to me that the government's not trying to redeploy the resources we have in the
00:02:15.360 country and they're taking this kind of you know brush and they're swiping across and saying all
00:02:20.400 you're going to go eventually um what are you finding uh the first one is they want to find
00:02:28.000 real trades workers right there's there's a difference from you know you mentioned immigration
00:02:32.560 and immigrants there's a difference from skilled trade workers and blue color workers right so
00:02:36.720 those who have certificates you know pretty much stuff like that um i understand that that that is
00:02:42.800 important and technicians and managing farmlands and managing logistics companies they need to have
00:02:47.840 those certificates yeah the government does give them the ability to go out and get those do they
00:02:53.120 get them it's a different is a different you know story right um i don't think they really did it
00:02:58.640 properly the first time of bringing in the correct you know the correct immigrants and the correct
00:03:02.960 people keep in mind that you know there is fault on the companies as well it goes both ways right
00:03:09.280 i mean let's take a step back right just from the rural side and we'll get right back into it
00:03:14.720 look at corporate america all across canada and united states companies are hiring and firing and
00:03:19.920 mass layoffs are happening right what happened in the 1950s 1960s 1970s you were a company man
00:03:26.640 you went and you worked for a company for 20 30 40 years you retired you were able to be a factory
00:03:31.440 worker and live on that and and buy a house with two car garage and you know go on vacation
00:03:36.640 and it really went away and it's funny you know you mentioned sending them back and and all that
00:03:42.960 when you look at meta when you look at google when you look at even canadian companies that
00:03:46.880 are doing mass layoffs it created the scarcity among people and you know we're a recruitment
00:03:52.720 agency and they can't the first thing candidates ask us right now has this company done mass layoffs
00:03:58.800 even there's a 78 on on employees that even though they weren't affected by the layoffs
00:04:05.360 they didn't get fired they still want to leave the company over the toxicness and the culture
00:04:10.080 that they created when you look at why they created it when you look at why these companies
00:04:13.920 hire and fire and mass are in mass fire it's because they know that nobody wants to go work
00:04:18.480 for them and the truth is not just that recruiting for them is really difficult but the truth is
00:04:23.920 that they can now go to government and say hey look we can't fill this position it's been open
00:04:29.040 for a year well yeah you created that scarcity you created that culture where you know americans
00:04:33.360 and Canadians don't want to go work for you just so you can create that scarcity just so you go to 0.94
00:04:38.000 government and not bring in employees from other countries at a much lower rate now as shitty as
00:04:45.440 that is what they're doing right is they're getting the skilled employees they need when
00:04:48.960 the government finally approves them in Canada we didn't do that especially in rural especially
00:04:53.360 in farmland we didn't bring in those you know the right ones so it's kind of up to you and
00:05:00.160 how you want to look at it the fault is on both sides i like do you really want to get the 0.97
00:05:04.880 immigrants who wanted to leave there or blame them they wanted to leave their country at any cost
00:05:09.360 right they didn't come here knowing that the government didn't prepare them properly 0.80
00:05:13.440 um but that's the truth that they didn't prepare them properly yeah yeah yeah no in a lot of
00:05:18.720 senses you know they were sold the dream right the streets are filled with gold you're gonna
00:05:23.120 come here get a great job get an education and find a job immediately that's not working out 0.88
00:05:28.480 in a lot of cases right and as you know now in the agri world on the west coast right now so
00:05:34.640 it's interesting because we have uh we've done a few shows on it and you know we're starting
00:05:39.920 to see the development um and i think in a big way and probably uh in the agri world especially
00:05:48.480 when we're coming through all these kuzma issues you know with mexico you know the labor demand in
00:05:54.720 the agri-world and also what are you seeing from a logistics perspective with people starting to
00:06:01.520 figure out ways to grow things to build things to actually develop the agri-world out in the west
00:06:06.560 coast are you seeing a big change through technology or or in the demands that people are having
00:06:14.080 not as fast as it should be not as how other countries are doing it um uk believe it or not
00:06:20.320 has better technology with their farmers and they're giving it and we don't have that yet and
00:06:26.080 you know look at the immigration what are the numbers like 6.2 percent on i mean unemployment
00:06:32.160 but within canadian citizens 6.2 percent immigrants are around 11 but what's interesting is long-term
00:06:38.880 immigrants are almost the same numbers as canadian citizens like born in canada so long-term
00:06:44.800 immigrants have figured it out the new immigrants that are coming in within the last five years
00:06:49.040 have not i think five to ten years is 8.2 percent uh one to five years is uh um 11 and then long 0.99
00:06:58.880 term that over 10 years here are at you know 6.2 which is really great because it's long term as
00:07:04.800 well just like canadian citizens born here in canada um but they come here and you know they 0.98
00:07:09.760 don't want to do the work they don't have the right technology to do the work um and they don't
00:07:13.600 want to write spaces for it as well so do you blame them i don't know i'll tell you my my family
00:07:20.240 story we migrated here from israel when i was 80 years old single mom and you know four kids
00:07:24.960 not to get personal but my mom worked a bunch of factory jobs uh before her sister got her
00:07:30.800 job in orthopedic medical supplies you know small office for custom-made orthotics and all that
00:07:36.080 uh we then went and and it took years to get there but we opened up our own as a family and
00:07:41.760 we managed to buy a house you know four bedrooms a nice car and all that yeah so the question now
00:07:47.280 comes is the government setting up the right processes and working with farmers especially
00:07:52.000 out in winnipeg especially out there um what it you know exactly what what the process is is it
00:07:58.080 supposed to be a temporary job until you get yourself set up and ready to go and you know you
00:08:03.360 go out on your own venture and do things or is it supposed to be a long term you know for the rest
00:08:07.920 of your life job it is but they won't do it because they can't break their backs all day long
00:08:14.080 right uh but at the same time you need to do something so kind of works both ways yeah well
00:08:22.000 you know it's interesting because the it's been around since i've been a kid you know and i'm
00:08:26.160 going on my 60s right now and and farmers have always had a hard time convincing their kids to
00:08:32.560 stay on the farm and you know when i was i was in my 30s uh late 30s i actually spent some time uh
00:08:39.280 with a farm i enjoyed it immensely but then i looked at it and i thought is this a long-term
00:08:44.480 thing for me and i realized it wasn't quite frankly um i i was going to switch careers at
00:08:49.440 that point uh i made the decision to stay what i was doing and all the young people that were
00:08:55.200 around me and were working with me at the same time we're heading to toronto we're heading to bc
00:08:59.680 none of them were staying on the farms and working and it becomes an issue of how do i then
00:09:04.480 how do i sell my farm get someone to come and take it over and if canadians don't want to do it 0.99
00:09:11.840 how do we get new immigrants to do it and that's the challenge especially now with all the
00:09:16.000 technology farming you know farming is not i think you hit on it farming has become technologically 0.99
00:09:23.040 very complicated it's not like when i was you know younger and used to see the guy out there
00:09:27.360 with just the basic tractor now you know it's ai driven it's gps synced it's you know that
00:09:33.440 you almost have to be a computer software engineer to run a farm just to make it work
00:09:38.880 how do you find how do you find new canadians coming in that actually will do that work you
00:09:44.000 know that's the challenge and make the financial commitment to do it thousands i mean a lot of
00:09:50.000 of people are applying it's who we're taking right it's who we're accepting into it so