True Patriot Love - June 27, 2026


[Sneak Peek] Rural Canada： Immigration & the Future of Agriculture ft. Eden Morchaev


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In this episode of the True Patriot Love podcast, I sit down with Edin Mordecev to talk about the current state of the economy in the rural west of Canada and the challenges the government is facing as far as employment is concerned.

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00:00:00.160 you have 100 000 refugees or 100 000 immigrants applying we can select who we want and we can
00:00:05.280 select do we want sales people do we want um warehouse managers do we want farmland people
00:00:12.000 do we want technicians we should be able to get the technicians and we should be able to set them
00:00:16.080 up in a proper way and and especially in rural canada western canada and put them on that career
00:00:21.440 path but they're not today on true patriot love i'm lucky to have edin mordecaev and we're going
00:00:32.000 to talk about canadian rural west and the economy and employment welcome thank you hey to be here
00:00:39.520 so interesting background i was talking to mike and he said i needed to talk to you because mike
00:00:44.480 just came back from the west coast of canada and he had crazy stories about what's happening in the
00:00:51.200 agri-world what's happening across western canada as far as employment so you're in that space yeah
00:00:57.600 so take us through give me a feel for what you're working with right now and some of the challenges
00:01:02.160 you're seeing yeah my as i mentioned before you know my background is in and global trade
00:01:07.280 compliance my title before was trade management executive so everything related to exactly what
00:01:12.720 we're talking about i currently lead a recruitment agency and recruitment in logistics hiring across
00:01:17.920 canada so everything from warehouse workers all the way up to operation managers directors and vps
00:01:24.160 everything related to logistics supply chain um so pretty much right up this alley yeah so what
00:01:30.960 you know people come to you i need i need someone from a logistics specialist on the west coast to
00:01:37.680 help me with my farming business with my rural cannabis who are they looking for right now so
00:01:43.200 this is the interesting because we do a lot of immigration shows and it's very interesting to
00:01:47.040 see in these shows you know they're saying okay we're not gonna uh we're not gonna get these work
00:01:52.800 permits extended we're not going to do this we're going to send people back who's who are they
00:01:58.640 looking for and why and and you know there's so many things going on with agriculture in the west
00:02:04.240 right now and so many opportunities and with automation and technology and engineering it's
00:02:10.080 so interesting to me that the government's not trying to redeploy the resources we have in the
00:02:15.360 country and they're taking this kind of you know brush and they're swiping across and saying all
00:02:20.400 you're going to go eventually um what are you finding uh the first one is they want to find
00:02:28.000 real trades workers right there's there's a difference from you know you mentioned immigration
00:02:32.560 and immigrants there's a difference from skilled trade workers and blue color workers right so
00:02:36.720 those who have certificates you know pretty much stuff like that um i understand that that that is
00:02:42.800 important and technicians and managing farmlands and managing logistics companies they need to have
00:02:47.840 those certificates yeah the government does give them the ability to go out and get those do they
00:02:53.120 get them it's a different is a different you know story right um i don't think they really did it
00:02:58.640 properly the first time of bringing in the correct you know the correct immigrants and the correct
00:03:02.960 people keep in mind that you know there is fault on the companies as well it goes both ways right
00:03:09.280 i mean let's take a step back right just from the rural side and we'll get right back into it
00:03:14.720 look at corporate america all across canada and united states companies are hiring and firing and
00:03:19.920 mass layoffs are happening right what happened in the 1950s 1960s 1970s you were a company man
00:03:26.640 you went and you worked for a company for 20 30 40 years you retired you were able to be a factory
00:03:31.440 worker and live on that and and buy a house with two car garage and you know go on vacation
00:03:36.640 and it really went away and it's funny you know you mentioned sending them back and and all that
00:03:42.960 when you look at meta when you look at google when you look at even canadian companies that
00:03:46.880 are doing mass layoffs it created the scarcity among people and you know we're a recruitment
00:03:52.720 agency and they can't the first thing candidates ask us right now has this company done mass layoffs
00:03:58.800 even there's a 78 on on employees that even though they weren't affected by the layoffs
00:04:05.360 they didn't get fired they still want to leave the company over the toxicness and the culture
00:04:10.080 that they created when you look at why they created it when you look at why these companies
00:04:13.920 hire and fire and mass are in mass fire it's because they know that nobody wants to go work
00:04:18.480 for them and the truth is not just that recruiting for them is really difficult but the truth is
00:04:23.920 that they can now go to government and say hey look we can't fill this position it's been open
00:04:29.040 for a year well yeah you created that scarcity you created that culture where you know americans
00:04:33.360 and Canadians don't want to go work for you just so you can create that scarcity just so you go to 0.94
00:04:38.000 government and not bring in employees from other countries at a much lower rate now as shitty as
00:04:45.440 that is what they're doing right is they're getting the skilled employees they need when
00:04:48.960 the government finally approves them in Canada we didn't do that especially in rural especially
00:04:53.360 in farmland we didn't bring in those you know the right ones so it's kind of up to you and
00:05:00.160 how you want to look at it the fault is on both sides i like do you really want to get the 0.97
00:05:04.880 immigrants who wanted to leave there or blame them they wanted to leave their country at any cost
00:05:09.360 right they didn't come here knowing that the government didn't prepare them properly 0.80
00:05:13.440 um but that's the truth that they didn't prepare them properly yeah yeah yeah no in a lot of
00:05:18.720 senses you know they were sold the dream right the streets are filled with gold you're gonna
00:05:23.120 come here get a great job get an education and find a job immediately that's not working out 0.88
00:05:28.480 in a lot of cases right and as you know now in the agri world on the west coast right now so
00:05:34.640 it's interesting because we have uh we've done a few shows on it and you know we're starting
00:05:39.920 to see the development um and i think in a big way and probably uh in the agri world especially
00:05:48.480 when we're coming through all these kuzma issues you know with mexico you know the labor demand in
00:05:54.720 the agri-world and also what are you seeing from a logistics perspective with people starting to
00:06:01.520 figure out ways to grow things to build things to actually develop the agri-world out in the west
00:06:06.560 coast are you seeing a big change through technology or or in the demands that people are having
00:06:14.080 not as fast as it should be not as how other countries are doing it um uk believe it or not
00:06:20.320 has better technology with their farmers and they're giving it and we don't have that yet and
00:06:26.080 you know look at the immigration what are the numbers like 6.2 percent on i mean unemployment
00:06:32.160 but within canadian citizens 6.2 percent immigrants are around 11 but what's interesting is long-term
00:06:38.880 immigrants are almost the same numbers as canadian citizens like born in canada so long-term
00:06:44.800 immigrants have figured it out the new immigrants that are coming in within the last five years
00:06:49.040 have not i think five to ten years is 8.2 percent uh one to five years is uh um 11 and then long 0.99
00:06:58.880 term that over 10 years here are at you know 6.2 which is really great because it's long term as
00:07:04.800 well just like canadian citizens born here in canada um but they come here and you know they 0.98
00:07:09.760 don't want to do the work they don't have the right technology to do the work um and they don't
00:07:13.600 want to write spaces for it as well so do you blame them i don't know i'll tell you my my family
00:07:20.240 story we migrated here from israel when i was 80 years old single mom and you know four kids
00:07:24.960 not to get personal but my mom worked a bunch of factory jobs uh before her sister got her
00:07:30.800 job in orthopedic medical supplies you know small office for custom-made orthotics and all that
00:07:36.080 uh we then went and and it took years to get there but we opened up our own as a family and
00:07:41.760 we managed to buy a house you know four bedrooms a nice car and all that yeah so the question now
00:07:47.280 comes is the government setting up the right processes and working with farmers especially
00:07:52.000 out in winnipeg especially out there um what it you know exactly what what the process is is it
00:07:58.080 supposed to be a temporary job until you get yourself set up and ready to go and you know you
00:08:03.360 go out on your own venture and do things or is it supposed to be a long term you know for the rest
00:08:07.920 of your life job it is but they won't do it because they can't break their backs all day long
00:08:14.080 right uh but at the same time you need to do something so kind of works both ways yeah well
00:08:22.000 you know it's interesting because the it's been around since i've been a kid you know and i'm
00:08:26.160 going on my 60s right now and and farmers have always had a hard time convincing their kids to
00:08:32.560 stay on the farm and you know when i was i was in my 30s uh late 30s i actually spent some time uh
00:08:39.280 with a farm i enjoyed it immensely but then i looked at it and i thought is this a long-term
00:08:44.480 thing for me and i realized it wasn't quite frankly um i i was going to switch careers at
00:08:49.440 that point uh i made the decision to stay what i was doing and all the young people that were
00:08:55.200 around me and were working with me at the same time we're heading to toronto we're heading to bc
00:08:59.680 none of them were staying on the farms and working and it becomes an issue of how do i then
00:09:04.480 how do i sell my farm get someone to come and take it over and if canadians don't want to do it 0.99
00:09:11.840 how do we get new immigrants to do it and that's the challenge especially now with all the
00:09:16.000 technology farming you know farming is not i think you hit on it farming has become technologically 0.99
00:09:23.040 very complicated it's not like when i was you know younger and used to see the guy out there
00:09:27.360 with just the basic tractor now you know it's ai driven it's gps synced it's you know that
00:09:33.440 you almost have to be a computer software engineer to run a farm just to make it work
00:09:38.880 how do you find how do you find new canadians coming in that actually will do that work you
00:09:44.000 know that's the challenge and make the financial commitment to do it thousands i mean a lot of
00:09:50.000 of people are applying it's who we're taking right it's who we're accepting into it so