True Patriot Love - March 09, 2026


Social Media Is Getting Dangerous (2026)


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00:00:00.000 as we roll on in 2026 the good the bad and the ugly social media is being highlighted around
00:00:11.040 the world and it could be good at times but it could be very very ugly as well to talk more
00:00:15.820 about it thrilled to be joined by one of our newest members here at tpl media shalisa backer
00:00:20.520 shalisa how are you hey good how are you jim good good let's let's get before we get into some of
00:00:25.860 stuff that's going on when exactly did social media take a hold on society the way it is right
00:00:32.020 now when did that start that's a really good question you know what i think i think covid
00:00:37.300 had a lot to do with it people were bored obviously that's when tick tock really blew up as well
00:00:42.740 and it has just had a hold on everybody and it doesn't matter how old you are ever since in some
00:00:48.660 way shape or form social media has some sort of hold on you you know i thought tick tock was
00:00:53.140 strictly uh you know pre-teens teens college kids but i i have a one of my wife's cousins a dairy
00:01:00.740 farmer in his 50s who watched tick tock videos of other dairy farmers milking and i like you do
00:01:07.540 and what is it about the tick tock algorithm that made it what it is i i don't know what it is i
00:01:14.580 don't know how they know what's going on inside my head but somehow somehow it just always knows
00:01:19.380 knows what you're going through and somehow it ends up on your algorithm like that needs to be
00:01:23.180 studied how they know exactly what's going on in everybody's life if they know exactly what content
00:01:27.720 to feed you and also i get nervous to like look things up on tiktok sometimes because i'm like
00:01:32.880 well now my whole feed is going to be this so when did it go from uh sharing information about where
00:01:39.340 you're going to eat from dinner and birthday messages and letting people know i saw a good
00:01:44.380 movie to turning to toxic where you say something a and it goes down whether it's people who are
00:01:52.400 just trolls or bot farms and it spirals out of control yeah and i think that also makes us think
00:01:58.700 like are people really that bored that they have like nothing to do then just troll online and leave
00:02:05.140 stupid comments for lack of a better term stupid comments and it's like aren't we tired of it and i
00:02:11.860 i really wish i could tell you when that shift happened but i think it happened so gradually
00:02:17.380 and now looking back on it we're like what happened how did we get here so a little social
00:02:22.900 experiment i posted something on my facebook that went on my threads i didn't mention trump
00:02:28.420 i didn't mention america i didn't mention player names i didn't mention canada or the us i just
00:02:33.860 said to paraphrase i could look it up but when i watch hockey i don't think politics i just watched
00:02:39.780 the hockey game i just want to watch it i did see that and i liked it so that's fun to thousands of
00:02:45.940 comments from people who thought i was commenting on trump and america and one individual said well
00:02:53.380 i guess i know who you voted for so i put a response saying well i voted ndp i'm canadian
00:02:59.620 and they said why are you commenting on american subject matter and i didn't and this is what like
00:03:05.220 i was like i was no names no country it was as generic as possible and it went crazy and i was
00:03:14.260 fascinated to see how one comment fed off the other and they started to fight with each other
00:03:19.940 it really it really is fascinating and sometimes you're just wondering like how how that it just
00:03:26.740 it doesn't make sense to me sometimes and this is like somebody who's chronically online i'm
00:03:30.340 on social media all the time more than i'd like to admit but it it just it gets really really scary
00:03:36.980 and it's it's crazy how some content that you think is harmless like just like that one post
00:03:42.100 on threads or whatever the case is how it just completely blows up and something that's actually
00:03:46.580 important like important subject matter to what's going on in the world it gets like no hits and no
00:03:52.660 views right so what how do you know if you're on social media that it's a bot commenting on what
00:03:58.980 you did and if it's just some rando who just feels like spewing hate well i think usually if you look
00:04:04.980 at their profiles usually their their username is also a good tell you know you'll see like a random
00:04:10.340 numbers or it'll say like user 59977 something like that no profile picture yes uh and if you
00:04:16.740 look at their actual feed they probably have no posts or just like generic posts that are maybe
00:04:22.340 ai created and things like that and then you'll see you know real people most likely will have
00:04:26.900 a photo of themselves as their as their profile picture you look at their feed and see what
00:04:30.420 they're posting or what they're reposting and it's sometimes hard to tell because these bots
00:04:34.740 and ai are getting very convincing these days so i i'm a believer in using different social
00:04:40.660 media platforms for different topics you know facebook is more personal family um you know
00:04:47.060 instagram i find my buddies and we're talking hockey and golf and dogs and like silly stuff
00:04:51.860 like that am i right is it should you use different platforms for different things in your life i mean
00:04:57.460 i do it too i do too i mean i barely use facebook anymore to tell you the truth if i didn't if i
00:05:03.060 didn't need it for work i wouldn't use it i'll be honest and i feel like instagram is kind of
00:05:07.300 becoming that too and i don't know if this is a generational thing but i used to i love instagram
00:05:11.620 i used to love instagram that was my number one platform but now i'm finding oh is that right yeah
00:05:15.940 Yeah. And, you know, back in the day when Instagram started, what, 10, 10, 15 years ago, it was like posting food photos.
00:05:23.600 Right. You know, that was a big thing. Right. That was what Instagram was used for. And then it just it progressed into, I don't know.
00:05:31.060 Now it just feels like it is flooded with things that are just untrue. A lot of fake news on the platform, a lot of AI generated content that is becoming so convincing, like people are believing it.
00:05:43.140 And I also think this has to do a lot with Bill C-19 here in Canada because they have blocked all news sources on meta platforms.
00:05:53.380 So Facebook, Instagram threads, you can't see any news.
00:05:57.080 So any local news, any national news, even some radio stations have been blocked.
00:06:02.780 So don't you think that's feeding into the fake news phenomenon that's going on?
00:06:07.320 And people don't have any trusted content and trusted sources.
00:06:11.540 Well, there was a big incident this week where Ben Mulroney on Global News posted what he thought was a video from the war in Iran.
00:06:20.480 And it was a video from a like an actual video game.
00:06:23.600 Yeah, it was a visual from a video game.
00:06:25.900 And they have to obviously have a student apology.
00:06:27.660 Yeah. And all of these deep fakes and AI photos of like celebrities in the hospital.
00:06:33.840 And it's looking more and more convincing.
00:06:36.220 and even like with the things that are going on in iran and all around the world really everything
00:06:41.100 in the middle east it is so hard to find verified content you're scrolling seeing all of these
00:06:46.220 videos and my first thought like as somebody who's on social media all the time it's like
00:06:50.460 okay is this real or not if you were 12 shaliza could you have handled social media i i don't
00:06:57.260 think so not with the way it is now and i always say this i'm so grateful for the generation that
00:07:02.140 i grew up in we were kind of like the crash test dummies right for social media you know we started
00:07:07.180 with the dial-up internet then we got into msn messenger and then we slowly progressed to
00:07:12.460 facebook and beyond as you got older as we got older yeah as a as a teen as a preteen now there
00:07:19.020 is so much content being thrown at them i don't know how to handle it i couldn't handle it i can't
00:07:25.340 handle it as an adult and with a with an undeveloped nervous system with an undeveloped brain you're
00:07:30.620 looking at all of these things and i was actually having a really interesting conversation with
00:07:34.060 someone the other day they were talking about how her 12 year old daughter her algorithm is all like
00:07:41.500 dieting and and um beauty things and at 12 and it's like how do they know this and for for boys
00:07:50.060 for 12 year old boys it's a lot of violence it's a lot of video game violence and and shooting
00:07:55.980 things and that kind of also makes me think of the tumblr ridge shooting in british columbia
00:08:02.460 when you have a troubled teen who maybe had some identity yes uh she identified as a girl but she
00:08:08.140 was born a male and that's fine trans right i'm here for the lgbtq plus community that's besides
00:08:14.220 the point it's all of the things that they are exposed to on social media really really messes
00:08:18.700 with your head and am i correct that uh ai chat gpt had flagged this individual's account yes but
00:08:25.580 didn't tell the authorities nope so then what's the point of doing all that then what's the point
00:08:30.300 of having access to that so i i had a conversation with someone recently and we talked about the
00:08:36.780 social media restrictions in australia now to me australia is a very democratic progressive country
00:08:43.020 but they had identified a problem with their youth and put in restrictions that you can't have social
00:08:48.300 media if you're a certain age now i am pro freedom pro everyone do what you do but i am seeing
00:08:54.300 evidence that it's having a real adverse effect on our youth and i'm okay saying if you're 14 or
00:09:00.460 under in canada you can't be in social media i agree i completely agree and right now i think
00:09:05.900 it's it's a tough spot for a lot of parents because a lot of them don't want to give in
00:09:10.060 they don't want to give them the phone they don't want to do this but then they're seeing all their
00:09:13.340 friends have it and everyone else is on social media so then you feel left out and then you
00:09:16.700 feel isolated so then that's another mental health issue where you feel like you can't connect with
00:09:21.500 your peers right so it's like where do we draw the line and there was a well it's actually quite
00:09:27.020 a sad stat a story that came out in ontario the amount of young men seeking help for online
00:09:33.180 gambling problems because of all the gambling apps on their phone as well it was staggering the
00:09:38.060 amount of young men asking for help also can i just point this out actually as i'm doom scrolling
00:09:43.900 on tick tock because i am guilty of doom scrolling i will tell you that but i am seeing a crazy
00:09:49.820 amount of ads for sports betting apps and for uh gambling apps as well yes it's it's very strange
00:09:56.460 like if i were to open tick tock right now i can guarantee you the first ad i will see is for like
00:10:00.220 bet 365. am i allowed to say the names of them whoa we are now we are now but for bet 365 and
00:10:07.660 like i don't even remember the names of them but i'm like why is this being pushed out to people
00:10:13.420 so much well that i don't understand so i i know with my wife and i my partner and i when we'll
00:10:19.340 look up hey we want to go to ikea get a shelf or we're looking at uh you know doing something
00:10:24.780 all of a sudden all our feeds are populated with you know ads and stories like i've just grown to
00:10:30.780 be accustomed to that they're listening but it is weird to me that in your um algorithm which
00:10:37.900 is nothing to do with sports gambling or online betting you're getting ads for but that's what i
00:10:43.580 don't understand my algorithm is very simple it's it's it's makeup it's true it's it's you know fun
00:10:50.220 light-hearted things it's millennial nostalgia and then i just keep seeing all of these casino apps
00:10:55.500 so if you're a 13 year old boy in canada who maybe is looking at basketball and video games
00:11:03.420 and i don't know cats and you're getting gambling ads in the algorithm what's to stop them from
00:11:09.740 starting to look into and getting sucked exactly and i mean you can put an age restriction on
00:11:14.380 those things but there's a way around them right you know it's the same thing as you know doing
00:11:20.140 under 18 things when but the kids have been doing that exactly for hundreds of years exactly there's
00:11:26.380 always a way around it i mean i may or may not have had a fake id back in the day but that's
00:11:29.740 That's a conversation for me.
00:11:30.760 What?
00:11:31.220 No, I'm an angel.
00:11:32.700 So I think there are still some good about social media and good things about it.
00:11:37.600 For you, what are the pros?
00:11:38.840 What are the things where it is a good thing?
00:11:40.760 Oh, there are absolutely so many pros.
00:11:42.400 I mean, for businesses, for small businesses, there are so many ways for them to get their content out there.
00:11:46.920 And, you know, bakeries, people who are running businesses out of their homes, a lot of people who do like lash extensions and beauty services and things like that.
00:11:54.420 I think it's fabulous.
00:11:55.720 and even for news outlets to get their content out there because let's be honest not a lot of
00:12:01.320 people are watching traditional news and receiving it in the way that they did 20 years ago so i
00:12:06.380 think it is very helpful for news outlets to get clips of major headlines out there but again that's
00:12:12.580 on tiktok unfortunately that's not the case on meta platforms because it's all blocked now i
00:12:18.900 keep hearing that they may be coming to a resolution will that happen in 2026 i'm really
00:12:24.760 hoping so but i've been hearing that for years and it's been what two or three years since the
00:12:29.480 bill c19 went into place and it's just getting worse and i mean i'm seeing like older people
00:12:35.320 like uh you know my mom my aunts things like that they're showing me all these videos oh look queen
00:12:39.560 latifah's in the hospital and she's asking and i'm like dude that's not real but when you look at it
00:12:45.560 it really does look like her well a sports reporter i know from london ontario reposted that phil
00:12:52.280 esposito a hockey legend hall of famer with died and it looked so real they had excuse me i got
00:12:59.020 sucked into a fake ai generated it looked like an actual official post feels very much alive
00:13:05.000 and but it happens every day and that also that also reminded me of a really good point as well
00:13:11.840 where social media if you are posting something for clarity on your own account like for example
00:13:16.300 pink there were it was in the headlines that she and her husband had split up again for a second
00:13:20.920 her own video she went on she went on to i think it was instagram and tiktok i think it was all of
00:13:25.320 her platforms she's like hey so this is news to me apparently my husband and i are splitting up
00:13:30.520 huh he's upstairs my kids are right here we're not splitting up so but the world bought into it
00:13:36.680 and it went on every entertainment site tmz it's it's spread like that far absolutely and that's
00:13:43.320 the culture that we live in now because of social media you know one outlet posts it and everybody
00:13:47.880 else is picking it up. But then it's like that comes back to, and I think both of us will feel
00:13:52.840 this way with a journalism, with a news reporting background. What are your sources? Where did you
00:13:58.980 get this from? And I think that needs to be translated on social media. We need to be
00:14:03.140 fact-checking things. We need to have reliable sources, which is not the case now.
00:14:08.200 Unfortunately, Tumblr Ridge, we saw the ugly side of social media with people spreading a lot of
00:14:13.400 unfounded stories and rumors and photos they had no business doing and that was really
00:14:18.220 disappointing and very also very disheartening for the lgbtq plus community so many insane things
00:14:24.940 about trans people and just because the shooter was a trans person that does not mean that all of
00:14:31.100 these things are true um where do we go from here in social media i mean i mean the restrictions
00:14:36.080 aside, what can a provincial federal government, a group of countries do to control what is a
00:14:44.480 multi-billion dollar beast? And I think at the end of the day, they don't want to damage people's
00:14:49.740 incomes. They don't want to affect people who can profit off of social media. But at the same time,
00:14:54.520 something needs to be done. We are seeing an unprecedented amount of mental health issues
00:14:59.020 amongst our youth, amongst even adults. And it's all because of social media. And why,
00:15:04.860 When did it become okay, aside from the government, when did it become okay for us to be so mean to each other?
00:15:10.660 That's a great question.
00:15:11.760 There was a sense of civility where you would only cross that line in dire circumstances, in extreme circumstances.
00:15:20.680 A family member is about to be threatened.
00:15:23.240 You're going to cross the line and you're going to be angry.
00:15:25.840 But just for an innocuous comment about, I don't like this.
00:15:29.520 I don't like ketchup on my fries.
00:15:31.180 And people start yelling at me.
00:15:33.040 Or people who like ketchup on their mac and cheese.
00:15:35.920 Yes, you're insane.
00:15:37.260 You're insane.
00:15:38.600 And I don't know.
00:15:39.940 It just, the government does need to intervene in some way.
00:15:43.360 But also, I think the way that our culture is now,
00:15:47.900 a lot of people have a hard time believing in the government.
00:15:50.920 Well, that is true.
00:15:51.900 So if they, even if they do intervene,
00:15:54.280 what is that really going to do?
00:15:55.520 Are people going to conform to it?
00:15:57.420 Are they going to listen?
00:15:58.340 What are the consequences going to be?
00:16:00.200 So Mark Zuckerberg famously was at a congressional hearing in Washington, D.C. to talk about Meta, Facebook, all his platforms.
00:16:09.680 Extremely wealthy, extremely influential, powerful man.
00:16:13.480 After that, I don't know what's changed.
00:16:16.480 Exactly.
00:16:17.220 And if you are this billionaire, you are behind all of these platforms, you have the opportunity to use your voice, to use your influence, to actually make a difference.
00:16:26.040 And I, like literally, and I'm going to keep coming back to this.
00:16:29.340 If I were ever in a room with Mark Zuckerberg, the first thing I would do is ask him,
00:16:32.600 what do you have against news on your platforms?
00:16:35.820 Yeah.
00:16:36.180 Like, what was the need for that?
00:16:38.560 Well, for my belief is he feels that he can control the news, the message, and the narrative on his platforms
00:16:45.740 without having journalistic, verified stories to interfere with it.
00:16:50.240 That's what it feels like to me.
00:16:51.960 And that's what the world is becoming.
00:16:54.220 everything is becoming so mission mashed together so watered down nothing is reliable i keep saying
00:17:02.560 the same thing over and over again but it's true and there needs to be some sort of reform when it
00:17:08.980 comes to social media i i know for my facebook it's it's a way for my family and friends to stay
00:17:14.460 connected and you know trade messages on instagram i find uh you know our daughters my wife we uh
00:17:21.080 we'll trade silly AI generated dachshund videos where the dachshunds are driving cars because I
00:17:26.440 think it's funny and um the recipes or we'll go hey there's a new there's this new tire restaurant
00:17:33.360 in Richmond Hill you know when you guys are in town let's go check it out I think that's okay
00:17:39.320 um but I'm just so conflicted because I hate seeing the damage that it's doing to society
00:17:47.460 the damage it's doing to mental health absolutely and i still enjoy social media but be aware of
00:17:52.980 that it's bad sometimes yeah and and that's that's the question where do you draw the line and how do
00:17:58.100 you teach kids this is where you draw the line this is when you need to realize you've gone too
00:18:02.740 far and i mean we can put like timers there there are timers on you can put like uh a restriction
00:18:08.420 on your instagram or tiktok to say hey you've had enough but you can just ignore it and continue and
00:18:12.580 right i've i've fallen victim to it as well i will sit there doom scrolling for like an hour and i
00:18:16.820 don't realize how much time has gone by and i'm like oh my gosh we're just mindlessly staring
00:18:21.380 busy as you are chalisa that'll happen to you i mean honestly sometime i'm gonna get into bed and
00:18:26.660 i'm like well i'm not sleepy yet i could watch tv i could read a book or i could scroll on
00:18:33.380 and and i i'm guilty i am guilty of it as well and then you're seeing your partner reels about
00:18:39.780 something you guys want to do or something or it's like hey look this guy was mean to his girlfriend
00:18:44.260 you did that too this is okay i know a lot of people saying i i'm plugging from social media
00:18:53.700 i've had it i'm getting rid of some of my platforms and deleting some of my apps but
00:18:59.300 i just have a feeling it's here to stay it is unfortunately it is and i i was talking
00:19:04.260 about this as well you can withdraw all you want but in a way that kind of removes you
00:19:10.500 from being in the loop with a lot of things because as i said a lot of people aren't consuming media
00:19:15.700 the way that they have traditionally in the past so sometimes and this could be a pro and a con of
00:19:20.900 social media it keeps you connected it keeps you up to date with what's going on in the world i mean
00:19:26.340 as soon as you know the bombs hit the middle east yes it was on social media right away
00:19:30.900 you didn't need to go to a tv or go to the internet to see it all you had to do was open instagram or
00:19:36.500 or x and x is a x is a problem as well it is a problem but you raise a good point when they have
00:19:42.340 a normal word that because of what's happening in the middle east the price of gas is going up my
00:19:47.140 first thought is i better top up my gas tank i gotta fill my tank because it's going to go up
00:19:52.460 six ten twelve cents a liter yeah and that's going to affect me and that information was readily
00:19:57.160 available to us within seconds as soon as someone like dan mctaig said something like that it's right
00:20:02.180 there on social media and prior to that you'd have to wait till like the six o'clock news in
00:20:06.980 your community in canada and like oh no i missed the window i'll be honest my dad still does that
00:20:11.880 my dad will sit there in the car and wait on the radio for them to tell you if gas prices are going
00:20:15.820 up or down and i'm like dad you could just look it up and so if the government does something like
00:20:22.800 that put some restrictions would that affect would zuckerberg and meta maybe push back against
00:20:28.780 the government if they're starting to put restrictions. I wonder how vindictive Zuckerberg
00:20:33.520 and Meadow would be and other social media platforms would be if countries like Canada
00:20:37.980 follow Australia's lead and other countries lead and start putting restrictions in. I think if it
00:20:42.760 affects their profitability, it definitely will make a difference for them. But also, I think we
00:20:48.220 just need to look at Australia as an example in general. I mean, look at how they went through the
00:20:53.440 COVID-19 pandemic versus how the rest of the world did.
00:20:56.480 Yes.
00:20:56.820 With discipline and rules, things are very, very different.
00:21:00.820 And people who are willing to follow the rules, it makes such a big difference.
00:21:05.320 They did not have to shut down their entire country like we did.
00:21:09.640 So that should reflect in this as well.
00:21:12.560 They are seeing actual results from their ban on social media for younger, for younger kids.
00:21:17.900 They are, they are.
00:21:19.520 And the quality of life is different.
00:21:21.700 you know, they're more prone to like go outside and play instead of wondering what my friend's
00:21:25.720 doing on Instagram, what this one posted to their story. Oh, these people are together and I wasn't
00:21:29.560 invited. I think those are things that are often overlooked. Obviously, you know, we raised two
00:21:35.120 daughters and you lived through with that 11, 12, 13 year old window for a young woman is very,
00:21:40.800 very challenging. And could you imagine like Cassandra at 13 years old looking like, oh my
00:21:45.180 gosh, this person posted on their story. And you're like, what do I do with this? Well, I remember
00:21:50.340 when she was 16 and saw one of her friends went to the Dominican Republic for March break and
00:21:57.300 how come we're not going like well we just can't we didn't we couldn't afford it sweetie we didn't
00:22:02.540 plan it we didn't plan it and and so it wasn't you know it didn't take long till when they got
00:22:08.400 their phones got into social media though those questions started to come up yeah and I think
00:22:13.800 too a lot of people put one side of their life on social media right you don't see what's going on
00:22:19.260 behind the scenes for example like your favorite influencers are probably going through it behind
00:22:24.360 the scenes they are putting out that content to clear the track they are putting out that content
00:22:28.380 to make it seem like their life is glamorous and whatnot but behind the scenes a lot of people are
00:22:34.280 struggling now i'm glad you brought that up because i started to follow someone on youtube
00:22:38.420 help men's health and mental health and physical health influencer chris williamson who's originally
00:22:45.400 from england lives in the usa you know often every once i'll post a video like you know what
00:22:49.960 my physical health is bad i had to get basically go to the doctor get a tune-up because i'm going
00:22:54.360 through some like he'll post a real video and i'll be honest with you the response is massive
00:23:00.920 when he's actually that open and honest like hey this is not working i'm struggling with this i
00:23:05.880 need help with that because people feel like oh okay he said it now i can yeah i can respond and
00:23:11.240 tell you that i'm doing going through the same thing as well that's real life stuff and that's
00:23:15.640 honestly i think that's what people want to see more than anything but because of the way social
00:23:20.360 media has become we feel like we have to put on a show for it now how much and i'm not picking on
00:23:27.880 celebrities but we recently just had an award show and we were talking off the air it seemed
00:23:33.080 like everyone was like on hyper ozembek and i love the osborne family but kelly osborne did not look
00:23:40.600 good everyone worries about ariana grande and that's what a lot of pre-teen and teen girls
00:23:46.280 and people are seeing on their social media feed yeah but i think i also think the other side to
00:23:51.080 that ariana and kelly both have gone on their social medias to say listen like i'm fine like
00:23:56.200 there's no health issues here and so i didn't realize that yeah so kelly kelly osborne was
00:24:01.080 actually very very upset i believe last week because people were leaving some insane comments
00:24:06.360 on her social media because of her appearance yes because and she was at the grammys with her family
00:24:10.540 they they performed a tribute to ozzy osbourne and she was in the in the audience just vibing
00:24:14.740 with her family and people like she's mourning her father and you're gonna make comments about
00:24:20.080 her appearance and she was like you know what like i've had enough of this i i can't take this
00:24:24.280 anymore and again this comes back to my point when did it become okay to just comment on people you
00:24:29.640 don't know comment on their body comment on their their physical state just sometimes keep it to
00:24:36.280 yourself is it a case shaliza where because social media you're anonymous you're not standing in
00:24:42.340 front of pink or kelly osborne or an athlete or you know you're slagging on lebron because he
00:24:48.640 missed a shot because you're not in front of them you feel you can say anything absolutely that is
00:24:53.460 definitely what people think on the internet and it's like well you can only hide yourself for so
00:24:58.040 long it still doesn't mean that you are not a real person making a comment about a real person
00:25:04.720 regardless of if they're a celebrity or not there's still people at the end of the day yeah i i as much
00:25:09.940 as i i respect a lot of our hired or elected officials and politicians i still think that
00:25:16.600 all levels of government still don't know what to do with social media in canada struggle with
00:25:21.740 how to contain it what to do with it they're still struggling as you said with c19 and what to do
00:25:26.820 with meta and its influence on canada and until we figure out a way and have a a blueprint as a
00:25:32.640 nation how to deal with the impact of social media we're still gonna have these issues well let me
00:25:37.260 ask you then as a dad as someone who has raised two girls what do you think a good first step
00:25:41.740 would be for the government right away no social media for anyone 14 or under in canada and how do
00:25:47.280 you regulate that well yeah well don't they aren't they able to put restrictions when yes but i mean
00:25:54.260 you can you can lie about your age on these devices okay you can put in an incorrect birthday
00:25:59.000 when you sign up for instagram right so that i think that's my thing i think i think it's a great
00:26:04.600 idea in the in big picture but how do you regulate it and i think this comes down to the parents a
00:26:11.720 lot as well parents have backed off a lot like the parents today are not like my parents i will tell
00:26:17.960 you that i'm sure they're not like you either and you know you can't be afraid of your kids you need
00:26:22.920 to be able to put your foot down and say listen this is not good for you and you can understand
00:26:29.880 it when you're older now it could it be a possible that um rogers bell tell us all the cell phone
00:26:37.880 providers and telecoms in canada if you're buying a phone for your 12 or 30 year old son or daughter
00:26:45.240 they know they have a restriction they can't even download the app in the first place that's a good
00:26:49.560 point that i think that's something that could happen because they could have a phone you could
00:26:53.640 text mom and dad yeah you can look up the weather like there's three or four things but you cannot
00:26:58.520 it will not let you yeah download those social media apps a tech tick tock x whatever it is
00:27:04.680 until you reach a certain age that's actually a good point that's a good start but again that's
00:27:09.320 something that everybody needs to be on board with right and i think that's probably the major
00:27:14.120 challenge is getting everybody on board because shaliza i'm reading and seeing and hearing a lot
00:27:19.000 lot of stories from psychologists and sociologists and mental health therapists and they are near
00:27:25.320 tears describing the struggles they're going through helping the youth deal with the impact
00:27:30.500 negative impact of social media and you know what i don't think it's just limited to youth i think
00:27:35.480 adults well you know we see people living these beautiful shiny lives on on social media or in
00:27:41.980 what seem to be super happy relationships on social media and you're like well why can't i
00:27:47.140 have that why don't i have that what do i need to do to get what this person has and we're we are
00:27:52.740 seeing stories that it's not just women it's men having body image issues uh women um as you say
00:27:59.300 why don't i live in that house why don't i have that car and question themselves and i would love
00:28:03.860 to hear from the cmha and other mental health organizations in the country if they've had a
00:28:09.220 spike in adults dealing with issues as a result of social media yeah yeah i think i think we need
00:28:15.060 right now a lot more numbers and data on mental health issues caused by social media and i think
00:28:21.300 maybe that would open a lot of people's eyes we have commissions and royal commissions in
00:28:25.780 this country for a lot of topics i i believe we're long overdue to have a serious all parties
00:28:31.220 all levels of government uh different experts in the field to have almost a group think tank
00:28:37.060 and come together like this is social media this is the problems with it this is what's happening
00:28:42.580 the canadians and maybe have like a blueprint maybe how to fix it yeah i think that would be
00:28:48.660 a great idea that's just a step that we need to take that the government needs to take how much
00:28:53.220 of it shaliza as we close here is it some people can handle social media has no effect on them and
00:28:59.700 some people it has great effect and that's just part of their personality yeah i think every
00:29:04.260 obviously everybody's different everybody receives things in different ways but i also think it's a
00:29:10.260 lot of onus on yourself as well you need to check in with yourself if you find that you're scrolling
00:29:15.460 tick tock and you find yourself spiraling you find yourself feeling burnt out exhausted like you need
00:29:21.220 to put the phone down and take a break and walk away too so we can't blame the government and
00:29:26.500 social media we have to take a look inside and look at ourselves as well go for a walk maybe go
00:29:31.540 to the gym or you know do anything but stare at that phone all day yeah and not every aspect of
00:29:38.340 of our lives needs to be recorded yes as a lot of like content creators influencers make it seem
00:29:43.920 like speaking of the gym and walks i see people walking around like this all the time like
00:29:48.440 vlogging their gym yeah in the gym at pilates just going for walks like it's everywhere my pet
00:29:56.220 is when i'm walking the dog and people are on their speaker phone and they got it cranked up
00:30:00.800 and they got their phone this far away and sometimes my dog looks up like what's going on
00:30:05.480 Or you gotta love the people walking their dogs not paying attention to their dogs when they're just like this.
00:30:09.600 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:10.740 But, again, we need to look at ourselves as well before we blame everybody else for what's going on.
00:30:17.100 Good point.
00:30:17.800 She's Shaliza.
00:30:18.640 I'm Jim.
00:30:19.260 Thanks for watching.