True Patriot Love - December 25, 2025


The Best Christmas Movies Ever Made


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In this week's episode, the guys discuss their favourite Christmas movies. We discuss our Christmas movies of the year, what we're looking forward to every year, and what we've failed to watch in the past.

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00:00:00.000 so jim i have been tasked uh as the resident movie guy okay to uh talk about our favorite
00:00:10.720 christmas films yes of the year and they do lend themselves to good movies they do the thing i love
00:00:17.200 about uh christmas movies and this time of year when out when we get into movies is it's it's a
00:00:22.160 time to get back to movies that are just a tight 90 minutes yes yes that are entertaining and uh
00:00:27.920 and wealth and formatted and well paced uh maybe it's because they're older films but i don't know
00:00:32.240 this might get into my uh my my criticisms of modern filmmaking but at the same time yeah these
00:00:37.920 movies uh definitely much easier watch uh to me even every year even though it's the same movie
00:00:44.480 over and over again i'm glad you brought that up nick because they're called classics for a reason
00:00:48.320 and then seem every holiday time let's watch this movie let's watch that movie and i find some of
00:00:53.920 them i pick up different things maybe i miss from the time before yeah absolutely and that's that's
00:00:58.880 a good thing about uh that's what uh that's a quality in movies that i i really do appreciate
00:01:03.440 is when you can re-watch it second third fourth whatever time and there's still something new
00:01:08.480 that you're picking out about it that that you love um something that you didn't notice the first
00:01:12.000 time that you that you really liked that that affected you okay you know um i definitely agree with
00:01:16.800 you there for sure for sure so uh what would be your what's what's the one movie you're you're looking
00:01:22.240 forward to every year every year it's rudolph the red-nosed reindeer okay okay now a lot of
00:01:28.080 people don't realize this but it's got a huge canadian contingent in it i didn't know that so most of
00:01:33.200 the voice actors larry mann who was yukon cornelius and paul souls who's hermy the elf and a lot of the
00:01:39.120 voice actors were canadian no kidding yes no kidding it's funny my uh uh my my wife's not not from canada
00:01:46.160 and uh she's uh you know not from a christian nation she's from turkey um so this was all new
00:01:53.440 all these christmas movies are new to her and i did what we did watch rudolph the red-nosed reindeer
00:01:58.400 um because it's it's also a staple for me yeah when i was a kid growing up there always came on tv
00:02:03.280 we always managed to see it and uh yeah it was just a little the old claymation it's just there's a certain
00:02:08.640 charm to it still absolutely but my wife was more taken back by it really we're used to it we're used
00:02:15.920 to it uh you know her her take is that santa just seems like a giant and i i have to
00:02:22.720 agree well he was pretty grumpy for most of the movie yeah yeah yeah quite quite prejudiced very
00:02:28.480 very off-put by this red nose and this reindeer uh unsettlingly so and i think in our modern times
00:02:34.400 perhaps there's there's something about it that just doesn't sit right with uh with a new the new
00:02:39.200 viewer but for me it's it's bumble it's yukon cornelius it's hermy uh just the whole everything
00:02:47.520 about it the story the island of misfit toys and so it's become part of our vernacular yeah and there'll
00:02:54.880 be a different group saying we're the island of misfit toys or you know like something like that and
00:03:00.080 it's it's one of those ones i i i know everything's gonna happen i see it every year yeah and i still
00:03:04.960 get excited yeah yeah no it's it's great it's it's still a great uh great special it's funny i i've
00:03:11.680 seen i've seen rudolph the red-nosed reindeer a million times but i've never seen santa claus's
00:03:15.760 coming to town oh with burger meister meister burger yes never seen the heat miser i i just know
00:03:21.600 this through people i've never actually seen it you got one foot in front of the other yeah that's the
00:03:26.240 song it's it's really good yeah i i i still i've still failed to watch okay okay but yeah again
00:03:32.160 that's that's another okay what's your number one my number one um very simple home alone really
00:03:38.560 home alone is something okay i can't watch it too early we watch home alone too early in december
00:03:44.560 that's the policy yes uh just to get our original yeah yeah we don't want to we don't want to uh uh
00:03:51.040 uh blow a shot with with home alone right away but we still want to watch home alone so we watch
00:03:55.360 home alone two which is the same movie um but not quite as good as home alone one in my opinion
00:04:02.960 it just as a parent i still can't believe they were on the plane when they realized they forgot kevin
00:04:08.640 yes this this is a stretch but i i don't know i don't know what it's like to have 12 children
00:04:15.040 you know yeah that's that that's the that's how they get away with it i guess is there's there's
00:04:20.880 so many kids that you just like you lose track of and again toronto's catherine o'hara is brilliant
00:04:25.440 in the movie catherine o'hara absolutely brilliant yeah absolutely brilliant i i watched this movie
00:04:29.600 when i was nine years old i was probably i was just a year or two younger than uh i was gonna say
00:04:34.480 mcculligan right yeah and it this movie had me just screaming in the theater just losing my mind to
00:04:42.000 seeing you know a nine-year-old kid hurt adults uh with cartoon violence and doing pg level swears
00:04:50.400 was just the most mind-blowing thing when i was nine yeah filthy animal exactly yeah filthy oh god
00:04:57.200 such great such great scenes uh again a very tight movie it's entertaining from beginning to end yep and
00:05:04.720 it brings up well it really does it really does and it's aged fairly well i mean some some i know i think
00:05:10.880 a lot of parents would say this is a bit too violent for a nine-year-old well consider the
00:05:16.160 video games that some of these nine-year-olds play so that's the thing that's the thing i mean it's
00:05:20.480 it's just uh i i i give it a pass i'd let my nine-year-old daughter who is not nine yet but would
00:05:27.920 watch this movie now my other one is the grinch the grinch who stole christmas both the original
00:05:32.480 animated and jim carrey uh with ron howard directing did a really cool one and jeffrey tamber is in it and
00:05:39.760 christina branski and it's well done but the original the grinch with max the dog and cindy
00:05:46.000 luhu and to this day when someone's being grouchy in the holidays we're like don't be a grinch don't
00:05:51.920 be a grinch yeah i mean i agree with you for the original cartoon the ron howard i just feel like
00:05:58.080 everything that needed to be said was said in that in that original cartoon and then the expanded
00:06:03.520 grinch universe said i don't care yeah this this is just me maybe i'm maybe i'm just cynical
00:06:09.120 but absolutely the grinch great story absolutely um let me think um so we we have uh you know then
00:06:16.320 there's die heart i'm i think we're best on both of our lives that's a christmas movie
00:06:21.040 it's an office christmas party the only reason john mclean flew from new york to la to the nakatomi tower
00:06:27.200 was to be with holly at the office christmas party and it ends with let it snow right exactly
00:06:32.800 absolutely it's absolutely a christmas movie and the the thing the thing with die hard people will
00:06:38.560 roll their eyes it's just a change of pace from the typical christmas movie you know sometimes we
00:06:43.760 just want to see you know some some good action and and that movie uh it's another movie where i i
00:06:50.080 find something new to appreciate appreciate about it every time i know it's it's a genre it's a genre
00:06:55.120 film it's it's people shooting at each other but you know upon watching it the last few years it's
00:07:00.960 really how great the cinematography is fantastic the pacing is so good it just keeps it keeps you
00:07:06.240 hooked the whole time ellen rickman people forget this i just read about this not that long ago i
00:07:11.520 it was his first movie first movie he was a theater stage actor and he was so brilliant as hans you know
00:07:18.240 the uppity criminal the gang leader was brilliant in it absolutely brilliant and uh i i i miss i miss
00:07:26.080 movies like this you know i still think there are only three die hard movies but yes i miss movies
00:07:31.120 like this these tight 90 minutes i think i think die hard's about two hours i think two hours and
00:07:35.200 change thunder but you you don't feel it you don't feel it because of the health issues of bruce willis
00:07:40.320 is going through right now i appreciate it even more now next door because i know that he's having a
00:07:45.600 tough time physically and his daughters and demi moore his ex-wife have been posting about it but uh at that
00:07:51.840 time bruce willis um yippie-ki-yay blank blank blank everything was it was so cool and it was such a
00:07:59.520 great late 80s movie and i just there's so many things about it like you like i i just pick up and
00:08:06.240 i enjoy it yeah no it's it's absolutely absolutely one of my faves yeah uh any easy re-watch and there
00:08:12.560 are a few movies like that for me for sure for sure so i thought we'd get into uh you know we we have
00:08:18.320 these older movies that we go on and us us old geezers here yeah well but there are but there are
00:08:23.760 newer movies okay that that are i think are worthwhile and that's why i thought we we put that
00:08:28.960 a bit um that you know we could possibly add to the repertoire i've we've had i've had three new
00:08:34.320 ads so three three movies that i watch every year now that are from the last 10 years all right so
00:08:39.440 that i think are worthwhile maybe people should check out and it depends on your taste of course but uh
00:08:43.920 the first one um is the night before have you heard of this movie is that the one with uh seth rogan
00:08:51.280 yes uh and he's wearing the uh the uh the jewish with the uh the star david hanukkah sweater right
00:08:59.280 yeah stuff like yeah um what i'd say about that one is you know it's sort of a screwball comedy it's
00:09:04.320 sort of a drug you know it's almost yeah yeah it's like a it's like the hangover but christmas yeah
00:09:08.960 yeah uh with with some with the supernatural element it's sort of a spoof there's sort of a
00:09:13.120 spoof of uh of a christmas carol yes there is a bit of that vibe to it you're right yeah yeah michael
00:09:19.040 shannon i think is the best part of of this movie he's plays a drug dealer and of course he's like
00:09:24.240 he's just now in nuremberg he's one of the most accomplished actors in hollywood well that's the
00:09:29.040 great his intensity makes it so great he's just this very intense you know he's michael shannon as a
00:09:33.920 drug dealer yeah yeah it's it's absolutely hysterical love it love it love it so yeah
00:09:38.320 night before okay that's a good not everyone's speed but i think it's definitely my speed i would
00:09:43.440 say for sure and uh next one uh klaus close have you heard of this one no it's a shame because it
00:09:52.400 almost won best animated picture a couple years back i think around the pandemic times um it lost
00:09:57.840 out to toy story four which i think is a shame um um so it's a 3d 3d film almost looks 2d it's almost
00:10:06.400 two and a half d looking um it's a it's a uh origin story movie about santa okay uh takes place in um
00:10:16.720 i forget whether it's norway it's some scandinavian scandinavian country um and just tells this this
00:10:23.040 really this really beautiful story about santa and a mailman who who invent uh the whole okay
00:10:29.120 whole santa myth who are the voices there's the uh there's jk simmons as klaus oh perfect yeah
00:10:35.760 with one of the best speaking voices in hollywood yeah uh jason schwartzman as as the the mail carrier
00:10:41.840 okay great um there's uh rashida jones as the as the lead female fantastic fantastic really great and uh
00:10:49.040 norm mcdonald the late norm mcdonald oh yeah it still makes me sad yeah um and he's and he's great
00:10:54.960 in that as well okay that's one i'll take a look for yeah yeah uh definitely easy to re-watch okay
00:10:59.120 definitely definitely a strong one in my opinion um the last one is and this this one i'm not sure i'm
00:11:06.000 not sure how people would feel is four christmases oh uh and it's with vince vaughn yes vince vaughn and
00:11:12.560 it's fantastic really good and robert devolves in it yes robert devolves yeah it's actually a really
00:11:18.080 good movie amazing you know as a guy who comes from a divorced family this is so point you know
00:11:22.640 being so in the basic plot of it is uh you know a couple um but they're trying to bounce around to
00:11:28.000 the different families and how different they are exactly they both they both come from divorced
00:11:31.840 families yes for christmases it's for for both parents yeah each of them and and you know each of
00:11:36.720 those these families are insane in their own way and it really feels like you really get that sense of
00:11:41.520 like the the battling personalities you know when you're dealing with people with troubled families and
00:11:47.200 nick there's a lot of people watching this right now who are about to experience the very same thing
00:11:51.360 absolutely absolutely that's why it hits so close to home and it's funny it's you know it's well
00:11:56.320 structured it's actually it kind of it really surprised me how much i enjoyed it yeah and how
00:12:02.160 much uh well i the kick i got out of it yeah yeah and again you can watch it again that's yeah it's
00:12:06.960 it's very rewatchable so yeah those would be my three picks i don't know if you have any i but what
00:12:11.840 it's 2009 so it's not too old close enough and it's jim carrey and gary oldman in the updated version
00:12:19.440 of the christmas carol okay and it's robert zemeckis directs it and he uses the same technology from the
00:12:25.280 polar express right and it's fantastic jim carrey his mannerisms his voice and i'm such a huge gary
00:12:33.120 oldman fan i'm really getting into slow horses now and he's so good at it and that it's such a timeless
00:12:39.040 story charles dickens the christmas carol and it's got a bit of a modern twist to it but still
00:12:44.880 true to the original with the modern actors so jim carrey and um gary oldman and i i think it's very
00:12:52.000 watchable if you if you don't want the stodgy old black and white christmas carol this is a good
00:12:57.600 version of it and it's sort of like a live animation with jim carrey gary oldman it's very well done oh yeah
00:13:02.880 i'll definitely check it out i haven't seen it but i definitely got to check it out because i'm looking
00:13:07.040 for a christmas carol to watch this this is very watchable yeah it's very watchable i mean the other
00:13:13.040 one that i guess goes with that is bill marine scrooged yes and i i was just at the tip of my
00:13:19.840 tongue i definitely want to talk about scrooged because i think that's another underrated classic
00:13:24.800 film absolutely i mean basically the premise is he's a tv director producer who wants to do a live show
00:13:32.000 like christmas eve you know all the crew and everything and it's so it's a it's a bit of a
00:13:37.200 farce but there's a lot of good story to it as well it's so dark and it's yeah it's a great retelling
00:13:45.600 it's great modern retelling you know in the 1980s new york yes and um i was gonna say i think i don't
00:13:51.920 an underrated an underrated uh i'm using underrated too much but one of my favorite characters in that
00:13:58.240 uh in that movie is uh the ghost of christmas past the cab driver uh david johansson was the actor
00:14:05.520 he was he was a singer with the new york dolls exactly yes yes yeah he's very good in it yeah
00:14:10.480 my favorite my favorite part of the movie is is uh is the is the cab driver you know and there's that
00:14:15.760 there's a one scene where that goes take me to the mbc building and he goes which floor i love it
00:14:21.520 love it yeah very good yeah yeah now we would be remiss if we're talking christmas movies if we
00:14:28.960 didn't talk about love actually ah well what's your opinion of love actually before i enjoy it and and
00:14:34.400 and there are certain scenes like bill nye when he's when he starts doing a song and he strips down
00:14:41.920 and all that and it's funny but really colin firth when he goes to the restaurant and he's speaking
00:14:47.600 portuguese to extend his love and dying love to the girl i just i don't know i love it i just
00:14:53.840 really enjoy it i i just don't know what kind of uh uses a typewriter outdoors well i'm a laptop guy
00:15:01.840 myself but it just added to the charm of the movie i guess i guess but i as a writer myself i look at
00:15:08.080 this and just go what are you doing yeah yeah yeah what are you doing still using a typewriter outdoors
00:15:12.240 yeah i i feel the same way as you do i i do i do really enjoy a lot of of love actually and i i
00:15:20.400 can re-watch it but there's there unlike these other movies there's stuff that makes me kind of go
00:15:24.960 tilt yeah a bit while watching it and and there's been a lot of uh of you know rehashing love actually
00:15:31.760 and is this actually a good movie or not i think it's a good movie sure i i definitely it definitely
00:15:36.720 obviously people love it um my criticism of love actually my biggest criticism of love actually
00:15:42.960 is the incel guy plot i i don't know if it maybe you don't remember it that well because it's i i feel
00:15:50.880 like it's the it's the worst part of the movie in my opinion and that's the guy who can't seem to get a
00:15:57.200 date can't seem to get laid right in in the uk yeah and this his whole he has this whole speech about
00:16:03.600 you know he's talking with his friend about oh i can go to america my people will want my accent
00:16:08.240 yeah and i'll get all the women and that right okay yes now yes yes okay so and and what happens 0.97
00:16:15.440 in that plot well he does do that he goes to america he got the first bar he sits his ass down into 0.91
00:16:21.040 all of a sudden he has three women on his arm right all of a sudden which happens all the time all the 0.91
00:16:26.080 time this is yes definitely if you're from the uk just go there it's just it's just free it's just you
00:16:30.720 know and it's and that that's that's that's the beginning the end of it he goes to the us yeah
00:16:36.000 and january jones suddenly is just enthralled with this guy and they they invite him back and he has
00:16:41.280 he has a threesome or foursome or something like that and it's just like is that the message you're
00:16:46.240 giving is that you know and i feel like the plot should have been he goes to the u the u.s january 0.57
00:16:53.200 jones says get out of here dork yeah you know yeah and he comes back to the uk in shame and then you know
00:16:59.920 in that moment of vulnerability he learns that you know being himself you know he he then he finds you
00:17:07.040 know a girl in the uk just just by being himself and or whatever there there's some kind of character
00:17:11.680 development here there's some kind of lesson but they're no in this this plot there's no lesson
00:17:15.840 just go you know just go to a foreign country with your with your fancy accent and and women will 1.00
00:17:20.080 throw themselves at you that to me was garbage but you have think about this colin firth 0.97
00:17:26.320 liam neeson emma thompson keira knightley alan rickman uh laura linney who i think is really
00:17:32.640 good at martin freeman and i'm a big fan of martin freeman you talk about star-studded it's incredible
00:17:38.960 absolutely absolutely great cast yeah and it's you know hugh grant here's the thing about these and
00:17:46.640 every year netflix and all the streaming services basically it's page after page a holiday movie i think
00:17:53.040 sometime with all the stress everything nick we just want to feel good sure we want to laugh maybe
00:17:58.960 there's something they do something silly or stupid and you laugh at them and that's why i think national 0.90
00:18:04.400 on poons christmas vacation when he hooks the light up there's someone that lives a couple blocks my 0.96
00:18:09.600 house that basically oh it's the we call them the griswolds because they have so many lights right yeah
00:18:15.600 oh and everyone's got a cousin eddie yes exactly it's very relatable very yeah absolutely and
00:18:22.800 absolutely funny and yeah just fantastic movie fantastic now i our daughters are in their 20s
00:18:29.200 and they sometimes cringe because my partner and i will we like these sort of sappy and they're like
00:18:33.920 oh so we have to balance it out with the kids okay which one do you want to watch we each take her 0.94
00:18:38.960 turn in that so there's a little harmony in the tv room and what do they turn to they i mean they love
00:18:45.920 they love the jim carrey grinch okay they love that um they i think rudolph is a big that's my big one
00:18:53.040 they dig they go with that but i think they just love actually is a good one charlie brown christmas
00:18:58.720 you can't go wrong with it sure i think that's a standard but just it's so somber movies yeah but the
00:19:05.280 one thing i know the girls because they're such big seth rogan fans they they do like last night 1.00
00:19:10.240 right just because that's their kind of wheelhouse for movies and stuff like that yeah again it's a
00:19:14.480 different speed of christmas movie it's darker it's more uh it's it's dirtier it's raunchier but
00:19:19.520 now the one of the ultimate it's nsfw is billy bob thornton and bad santa okay yeah now it is even he
00:19:29.520 i remember seeing an interview with him he can't believe like that he did it how popular it became
00:19:35.840 and it's you want to talk about dark movies right but there is like some tender moments in it like
00:19:41.360 it's crazy yeah well that's that's uh that's a really fun quality when you when you watch a movie
00:19:46.560 that that's you're just it's it's just seems like it's a dirty film but then it hits you somehow yes
00:19:53.040 it does yeah that's the brilliance of it and if it's if it was just sheer raunch then i think it
00:19:57.840 wouldn't have the same impact that it does absolutely and maybe one day they'll make a movie as good as
00:20:02.800 die hard someday someday they're gonna reboot it that's what they're gonna do oh no i know no please
00:20:08.160 no i don't want it either no just make a new movie for you have to make it please yes please hollywood
00:20:13.520 make a new movie america simpson's happy holidays