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00:00:00.000 well well well if it isn't the holidays time to get together with friends people you know maybe

00:00:10.620 people you don't know or don't like but for business and social reasons you do have to see

00:00:15.360 them and that creates an anxiety all its own and there is a fascinating article by our good friend

00:00:21.060 sim chabra from horizon within called office christmas party anxiety when chat gpt isn't

00:00:27.380 enough and isn't that the case and sim joins us today on true picture love sim how are you

00:00:31.720 i'm well thanks for having me it's a pleasure you bring up a fascinating topic i have um a function

00:00:38.400 i have to go to in about 10 days i'm not terribly looking forward to it but it's a business related

00:00:44.280 thing it's a obligatory thing so i'm going to go put on my best face hang out for a bit eat some food

00:00:51.500 and okay but i'm not stressed or anxious over it but from your article and your research there are

00:00:58.060 a lot of people that are freaking out about those kind of social situations coming up for the next

00:01:02.700 few weeks yeah it's interesting because um when i was doing my research um and also you know when i'm

00:01:10.400 when i work with clients because i work with a lot of anxiety management issues uh this whole back to

00:01:17.020 work mandate that's been happening over the last year uh what i'm noticing with clients is that

00:01:23.260 the dreaded christmas party hangout and what's different now than from times past and there's

00:01:32.440 there's you know two things one a lot of people work from home so it was easy not to go for over

00:01:37.980 the last three four years so you worked with the company but you know you didn't have to go to the

00:01:43.180 social events now because of this back to work there's this hidden expectation of attendance

00:01:51.980 and it's gonna interfere or it may impede your growth or they may look they may come across as

00:02:00.380 you don't want to be a team player and so that's driving the anxiety trigger but the aspect of hanging

00:02:11.340 out with people and you know work events have never been pleasant didn't matter whether it was pre or

00:02:17.180 post covid so i'm kind of like that's that's what i'm noticing a lot happening and that's why i decided

00:02:22.300 to write this article because people are going to chat gpt and then prompting in what do i need to do to

00:02:28.620 manage my anxiety or you know how can i survive a christmas party and the main takeaway is that it gives you

00:02:37.820 tips but it doesn't work through why you're feeling what you're feeling and what you can do to regulate

00:02:44.460 that well and and i'm fascinated by a certain section that you brought up the example about

00:02:49.580 using chat gpt ai to answer questions before going to the the office party you maybe not want to be a

00:02:56.060 part of sim will i look composed will it look bad if i leave early do i appear committed if i don't attend

00:03:02.780 and a lot of people have that but it's in i guess i'm naive to just how all pervasive chat gpt and ai

00:03:10.700 is entering our society that people are turning to that to answer those questions because it gives you

00:03:18.060 a platform of uh non-judgment and it it feels safe and that's that's where the drive is so if you look at

00:03:27.740 it through like say a generational lens right like so you know if you work it across so you have your

00:03:33.660 boomers all the way to gen alpha we all have to experience the christmas party how each generation

00:03:41.580 uses chat gpt is a bit different so so for example if you take um the baby boomers right for them it was 1.00

00:03:50.620 norm going to christmas parties was a norm uh the you know getting comfortable and doing that it was

00:03:58.860 the norms of society got a bit of an eruption during covet so for them you know that question

00:04:04.220 is more prevalent because it's like will i be noticed because now all of a sudden they're like

00:04:09.340 i don't want to go to a christmas party and then you work your way down to your millennials right

00:04:15.900 they didn't experience that many christmas parties pre-covid so for them it's more like what do i do

00:04:22.620 how do i am like what do i say what if i leave early yeah should i be laughing should i be quiet

00:04:29.260 you know what if c-suite comes in how do i go and approach them so that's where this chat gpt is very

00:04:36.860 um personal because now the the boomer is going more like do i need to go what can i do versus

00:04:45.260 the millennial who has no reference point in there they're actually taking the cues that chat chat gpt

00:04:52.380 is giving them what to say how to be so my first thought is if i if i'm going to an office christmas

00:04:58.300 party with a group of people there may be a few i'm close with but a few i'm like whatever i show up

00:05:04.060 i have some need i'm social for a little bit then i do the oh i gotta run happy holidays we'll see you

00:05:10.060 next year and you make an appearance you have something to eat you're you engage a bit but if

00:05:15.820 you don't want to stay too long you don't i i i that's how i always thought i always viewed it but

00:05:21.740 i guess i'm missing the part sim that there's a big segment of the population that that brings

00:05:27.180 on a whole sense of anxiety that i that doesn't happen to me true uh and it's more in the youngers

00:05:36.060 so you're looking at people that i you know they got into the workforce so you look at

00:05:41.820 right around covet right so they got introduced into the workforce but they didn't get introduced

00:05:46.780 into the office social culture because there was none there was none and all of a sudden they have

00:05:52.460 to be introduced to an office social culture with a expectation of showing up pre-covid it was like

00:06:01.260 yeah you know my dog was sick or like and it worked because people knew i gotta pick up my mom at the

00:06:07.420 airport yeah you know what i mean it's like look at the time it's 7 30. it's bedtime and you'd get away

00:06:13.900 with it yeah so so it's that's what it is it's also that people don't have direct experience or they

00:06:21.180 just got on board with a new company and you know they were work from home and then all of a sudden now

00:06:25.820 they work from office and so it's it's those elements where this becomes a a dependent clutch

00:06:33.020 and because it's so prevalent like anything is chat gpt you know google it look it up and um a lot of

00:06:39.980 people are going there and they're not they're not taking the time to actually understand that it's just

00:06:44.380 a skill that they have to um learn or develop yeah absolutely i can't recommend the article highly

00:06:51.820 enough on horizon within and and it ties into something that happened with one of our daughters

00:06:57.980 our oldest daughter was being involved in a work function and she's very she works in a lab she's

00:07:04.780 very studious she was unsure and we just said sweetie just go for a little bit hang out you have

00:07:11.100 some need and then turns out she had the time of her life and now she's going to host the event with 0.69

00:07:15.980 some of her other workmates because she had such a good time and she hadn't been in an event like that

00:07:21.980 because of covet as you said and my partner said sweetie just go just go for a bit and hang out

00:07:27.980 she ended up really enjoyed it ended up realizing she has a lot in common with these other people

00:07:32.220 that she didn't understand at first until they were in a social setting and now they've had a couple of

00:07:37.900 gatherings together so i know the chat gpt is doing this but where is the the mentor parent maybe older

00:07:46.380 friend influence in pushing someone to say you know what just go and try it for a little bit you might

00:07:51.340 have some fun it's individual okay um because some some of us have a social structure or have a home

00:07:59.340 structure that allows us that um a good example of where that would answer that best would be um

00:08:08.300 a new resident or a new um migrant absolutely i could say that yes or it could be even somebody

00:08:15.340 that moved from uh another province because the different cultures different customs or even you

00:08:19.900 know you say you know you got relocated from vancouver to toronto and you don't have that that that social

00:08:25.980 network yeah that would nudge you out and you don't have a a personality that allows you to be like

00:08:33.020 wow let me be explorative because social work social cultures tend to be a little bit more punishing for

00:08:41.900 or deviant behavior versus private functioning so like say for example you know you're a new resident

00:08:50.380 of toronto and you're like i want to go to the pub or go to a social hangout and get to meet people

00:08:59.340 it's different than i have to go to a work environment and meet people right so the common element is

00:09:04.540 something new but because the environment is got a consequence the avoidance and the anxiety becomes

00:09:11.500 that much greater right and because the anxiety and avoidance got that much greater my dependency for

00:09:18.460 will i be what do i do how can i becomes that much more necessary because you may think susie and

00:09:26.540 accounting has it in for you but then you end up somehow going to the function and realize susie and

00:09:31.820 accounting is not that bad after all and maybe it was all in my head right or you could be susie in

00:09:38.060 accounting that doesn't like talking to people and know that people have assumptions of you because

00:09:42.700 you're from accounting right and not quiet right right so i i find this fascinating too and the article

00:09:50.380 make a good distinction that therapy is relational and personal and there is something so in un impersonal

00:09:59.020 about going into your smartphone and using your smartphone and tick tock and chat gpt for your

00:10:06.140 therapist because how could they get that interaction because i could imagine sitting across from you

00:10:12.220 and you're reading my body language listening to my words you might have something completely different

00:10:17.500 to say to me than what my phone does right because that's one thing that i wish people would kind of

00:10:24.940 like take with a grain of salt is it's giving you impersonal information it's giving you data point

00:10:31.260 it's not taking the time to go okay like say for the example that we you know whether it's your

00:10:35.980 daughter or whether it's somebody that's just resettled in toronto if they're sitting across from me

00:10:41.820 i can take the time to understand you know oh you just moved here well that makes sense it's a total

00:10:47.980 valid point and a different mindset right and your sense of nervousness is different so like say for

00:10:53.660 example you know uh it's either one and they're sitting across from me and they kind of go through

00:10:59.740 that thing if you look i'm nervous that i know what do i do how do i go about it and i i usually tell

00:11:05.820 people you know there's you got to learn how to break the ice and humor is one of the easiest ways

00:11:11.980 to break it right and with canadians we are very good at humor and canadians have a very dry like you

00:11:18.940 you know overt kind of sense of humor and actually i had a client that was kind of going through that

00:11:25.900 and i go you know you everyone congregates around the food table it's guaranteed it's there right

00:11:33.900 and and we kind of like role played a bit and i go you know just have your solo cup and kind of

00:11:39.260 like make eye contact and take a sip or two and then make eye contact and go you know this could have been

00:11:45.820 an email just say that that's it that's really good and i go i guarantee you you're gonna get at

00:11:53.100 least one laugh yes and that's all you need because now you've cut the air and create a conversation

00:11:59.740 point right you've you've all because everybody's like i don't want to be here everyone has the same

00:12:05.180 common element we just may not have the ability to express and what you did is you just sliced the

00:12:10.540 tension right through and and you said something that is relevant and comical because it's like

00:12:16.220 this could have been an email well especially this time of year sim they're like i've got to do this i've

00:12:20.380 got to do that i got to get ready everyone's under the time crunch and the deeper into december goes

00:12:25.740 the more pressure to get everything done so they're probably all thinking that right and and they loved

00:12:30.940 it and in fact they just had their christmas party this past weekend and i have a follow-up appointment with

00:12:36.060 them uh this week so it's going to be interesting to see uh just kind of like and i have a feeling

00:12:42.060 it's going to be kind of like the you know what your daughter experienced yeah they're all of a sudden

00:12:45.020 it'd be like oh my god you know i can't wait till we have the you know the easter get together yeah

00:12:49.980 baby from hr actually is not that bad yeah thinking to speaking to sim from uh horizons i i i i the other

00:12:59.100 thing i i enjoy about it is it shines a light sim you know i know my kids are younger so they're into

00:13:06.700 tick tock a lot and i i did a search hashtag mental health on tick tock and there is page after

00:13:14.380 page i mean you could go down a rabbit hole and either people giving crackerjack box therapy on social

00:13:22.220 media and tick tock and i think the work that you do as a professional you might have to do some of that

00:13:27.660 because a young person would go down this tick tock rabbit hole thinking they're getting their

00:13:31.660 therapy or chat gpt and it could be totally wrong for what they need uh i am so on the same page with

00:13:38.700 you because it turns into like being armed chair psychologist oh yeah okay you see and and from a

00:13:45.980 from a professional lens what makes it harder for me is is that now you're coming in with the

00:13:50.380 predisposition which you have validity to it's one thing to come with a sense of reasoning and

00:13:57.740 questioning but it's another to come from a sense of belief and the way i the one of the best ways to

00:14:05.580 bracket it are again looking at it through generational lenses right so when what i notice is when people go

00:14:13.420 on chat gpt or google they're looking for something about themselves they want to get to know themselves a

00:14:19.500 little bit okay i mean that's your prompt right like whether it's the christmas party what do i do to

00:14:25.100 manage being in an environment that is professional but i'm not comfortable in so if you look at it from

00:14:33.340 you know the big picture is i want to know something about myself then when you kind of like funnel it

00:14:39.420 down a little bit more you're going okay where can i go to find about myself in our times you went to

00:14:44.860 chapters you looked at a self-help book and you kind of write a book and you did that you fast forward

00:14:49.660 in time it went to just generic google fast forward further in time and now we have gemini and chat gpt

00:14:56.300 so that's your middle the bottom which you just mentioned is you have people that are like creating word

00:15:02.220 salad right affirmation uh self-care no self-care is important um authenticity boundaries um safe space

00:15:14.140 that's the one that triggers me oh fomo like that's that one like you know what i mean like

00:15:19.980 yeah um but social media is full of it sim right so if you look at like uh the ones that really create

00:15:27.100 the stir right so like i was able to kind of like okay what do i hear more often right authentic self

00:15:34.540 okay but there's that quest to what is an authentic self

00:15:38.860 um imposter syndrome ah yes right and my favorite fake it till you make it i i was taught that now

00:15:51.260 you put those three together right it's a vortex what is an authentic self that's a good question

00:15:59.660 what is an imposter syndrome how do you know if you're being an authentic self

00:16:03.500 then how does imposter syndrome come into being and if you're faking it to making it then how do

00:16:11.500 you know you're authentic because you've faked it to become see that yeah right yeah real quick i was

00:16:18.620 just taught that hey if you look like a professional act like a professional eventually

00:16:23.500 you could develop and evolve into a professional right so i'm going to take it one step further now

00:16:29.420 and you look at that trifecta through generational lens the boomers like we're more gen x right yes

00:16:36.220 so the boomer now went through this fake it till you make it right authentic self imposter syndrome

00:16:42.700 so that's constant with everybody for them now when they go into tick tock and they look at it and

00:16:47.820 they're like you know uh maybe i'm behind on times maybe i missed the boat maybe i didn't get this right

00:16:53.660 right you jump one more generation you go to the gen xers right same three same trifecta

00:16:59.180 same source they're more like how come i don't have my life together oh you jump one more you come

00:17:05.980 to the millennials right they're like i better get my life together you jump one more the next gen y 0.94

00:17:14.300 millennials yes all right then the the millennials they're more like well everybody has their life

00:17:20.300 together oh gen z well you know what i need to get my life together i need to be an authentic self

00:17:26.940 i don't need to have imposter syndrome and i want to be authentic while i make it right so that's

00:17:31.580 your gen z your gen alpha which is your newest generation which is completely ai and chat driven

00:17:37.740 they're like i better be the perfect being because if they find out who i am i don't know who i am but

00:17:43.180 if they find out who i am it's not gonna be good for me oh really so it feeds very differently into each

00:17:48.460 generation so as a therapist i have to find that first so then i can understand where is it that

00:17:56.940 you feel that chat gpt or the issue that you find is true or not so if you're like say gen xer yes we

00:18:06.060 can have a conversation and then now we can look back and go okay but look at your accomplishments look

00:18:10.300 at this look at that look at that and now all of a sudden you can be like well you know what i am real

00:18:15.580 because my achievements are real and then you can update your file and saying i don't need to tell

00:18:22.140 myself figure to make them i don't need to fake anything what i need to now do is go how do i

00:18:27.740 authentically now your authentic self has value because you have genuine experiences that validate it

00:18:33.820 sim i guess my question for you your depth of knowledge as a therapist is the technology the

00:18:39.900 smartphones the chat gpt the social media am i right to say that it affects some people more than

00:18:46.700 others like i see some of the stuff i'm like oh okay whatever then i hear other people that they get

00:18:51.340 really deep into this and they can't pull themselves out of it absolutely absolutely because

00:18:58.380 a lot of times we're looking for validation oh and it always boils down to that

00:19:03.180 it this is where you need a person working with you versus chat gpt validating because chat gpt doesn't

00:19:14.700 have a way of discerning life experiences doesn't have a way of taking the time and going

00:19:20.780 it will what makes this individual uh have such a high need because we all have a need for validation

00:19:29.900 yeah it's human nature is it not it's human nature it's it because it's a feel-good thing right right

00:19:35.660 it's a natural feel-good thing so but some of us have a higher dependency on that versus some of us

00:19:42.540 that have kind of like worked through it um a good example and i'm not saying this is you know accurate

00:19:48.780 i've seen more of it is people that play sports in the younger years are more um accustomed to

00:19:56.700 disappointment than those that don't play sports that's right i'm not talking about the new where

00:20:01.660 everybody gets a medal we're not no we're not here to um decide or determine i'm just saying in general

00:20:09.260 you are more adverse to disappointment because that's what playing sports are about you're going

00:20:14.140 to lose once in a while right and it's how do you rebound from it right psychologically that's what

00:20:21.180 you look for is more experiences that you've had where you've learned to rebound from it's easy

00:20:26.540 for you to reference to then you don't make it personal you become a little bit more informative

00:20:31.980 you become a little bit more inquisitive you take that discerning hat versus someone that

00:20:38.140 hasn't had right and we all have unique life experiences and that's what my role as a therapist

00:20:43.660 is is to understand your unique life experience your unique world outlook and then go okay

00:20:51.580 okay where where do we need to have a conversation where would we need to then say okay let's look at

00:20:58.940 it from a different right interesting to get more details horizon within dot ca to speak to sim

00:21:07.820 about his professional what he can do for you as a therapist i guess you know yours from your years of

00:21:14.940 experience you think you've seen and done it all but even at your level and your level where you're at sim

00:21:21.180 who do you speak to when you have a question so i i i have someone that i go and oh okay have an

00:21:28.060 appointment with uh at least once a month right and it's not about um oh look i have a problem whatever

00:21:36.700 it's it's um genuinely like for personal growth right but i'm also under supervision so i meet with my

00:21:46.700 supervisor twice a month and we go over my caseload we go over some of the challenges that i may have

00:21:54.700 um some of the things that i may need to develop on so there's a there's this continuous personal personal

00:22:02.300 appointments and then there's the supervision where i'm sitting down and we're discussing and we're

00:22:09.100 coming up with okay how would i have looked at it from a different lens or what would i have done

00:22:13.180 differently in this scenario or you know you know i'm hitting a roadblock with this specific issue

00:22:21.020 and i don't just don't know how to get around it so that's that's what we do that's what i do and the

00:22:24.940 reason i bring it up is we have this society where we're like get active keep your steps in get your

00:22:30.780 heart moving stay healthy we need to also have a parallel translation to that saying also maybe talk to

00:22:37.020 someone once a month maybe speaks to someone you may think you're fine but it's almost like maintenance

00:22:42.140 for your car yeah like it's just you don't know like there may be something there you don't know

00:22:46.780 what's happening and then it'll help you from like live your life every day you bring up a very good

00:22:52.380 point because one of the misconceptions people have and it's like well do i need to get into my path do i

00:22:59.980 need to get into my childhood do i need to and you necessarily don't there are um certain times where

00:23:08.700 it necessitates it uh shop go like i offer a 15 minute console you can go online book an appointment

00:23:17.820 we can have a chat if you feel hey you know what yeah i can i can work with you or you know what you

00:23:25.100 can help me address what needs to be addressed okay or you could be something that has a little bit

00:23:32.620 more of an under layer going look you know like i have this continuous issue or i struggle with this

00:23:38.380 and we find the root of it but at the same time can i also develop you know a tool that will allow me

00:23:46.220 to then have function and that's usually where my mindset comes from is i need to give you some

00:23:54.540 a tool that you can work with and once you have found a way to work and create baseline or stable

00:24:03.340 now if you want to explore something deeper absolutely but you have something you can work with

00:24:11.500 that will allow you to then decipher what it is that you want to do so to give you a very good example

00:24:18.300 aside from the joke of this could have been an email because you know you got to read the crowd

00:24:24.300 right uh if you're a bunch of c-suites you can't you can't say it no so to help them get out of their

00:24:31.420 mind mind space um you know you heard the cliche right well look at it from another point of view

00:24:38.140 what is another point of view that's a good question right so i i'll show you something that i

00:24:44.220 impart with with my clients with have you ever heard the concept of parallax the word parallel yes i have

00:24:51.260 yes right through astronomy yes right so for the for the uh listeners parallax is basically what

00:24:58.460 astronomers use to measure distance of um stars right and if you um would you mind uh kind of like

00:25:08.940 exampling it out and if i can walk you through it absolutely okay so what i would like you to do is have

00:25:13.260 your thumb out and then have me in center right close one of your eyes put your hand over one of

00:25:20.860 them okay to a point where i'm blocked out okay okay now what i'd like to keep that eye open okay and

00:25:26.700 i'm blocked by your thumb correct now i want you to move that hand that's covering the other your eye to

00:25:31.180 the other eye no but keep the thumb so i'm blocked yep and now that your hand that's on your eye goes to

00:25:36.460 the other okay like this yeah so see i've shifted oh yeah it's way over here right so i call that red light

00:25:41.900 green light oh right red light yeah red light can't see me yes green light that's way over here you

00:25:49.420 can see me yeah so so what i tell them mentally is whatever you're dealing with if it's blocked red light

00:25:58.140 shift perspective so mentally we i work them through where they mentally then go

00:26:03.820 huh another perspective green light which means thoughts are flowing and now they can discern the

00:26:10.620 noise in their mind where it could be what if what if what if to what can what can't right right

00:26:21.420 and then this is um to me the best thing about what you do sim is it's so easy to understand when

00:26:26.700 you explain it because i think there is a perception a lot of people like i'm just you know i don't have

00:26:32.060 great education they're going to be speaking words and talking with terms and i won't understand it's not

00:26:36.780 going to help me but anyone could understand what you just explained yeah so that's that's what when

00:26:42.700 i'm working with with clients that's what i bring to the forefront it's kind of like working with them

00:26:49.900 and meeting them where they are and then going okay what would you need there to have what you need so

00:26:58.300 you can go and function to an office party yeah anything yeah right because most of the time it's

00:27:06.780 that how do i engage in society right it somewhere fundamentally it's it's an interaction i have to

00:27:13.260 interact with it builds anxiety starts when you were young just like how you know when you say with

00:27:19.420 your daughter right like she's in her mid-20s but her response was equally apprehensive as she was when

00:27:26.700 she was young because the mind went to something new oh ah now as a parent as a support person as a

00:27:34.300 partner whatever environment structure they feed into it and say here's your nudge the same there

00:27:41.340 it's the same as getting them on the slide when they were four because it's it's a mental thing

00:27:46.460 it's a natural these are natural loops now some people may have had an adverse experience that

00:27:52.700 inhibits them from accessing so that's why i give them a tool that is something more neutral and something

00:27:57.820 more present once they're stable they like they got function like this person being able to go to their

00:28:03.660 party on saturday which is important for them absolutely right but they went with two tools

00:28:09.180 they went with something internal red light green light because i can't control the noise in the mind

00:28:14.940 but i gave them a tool for them to differentiate it right but also give them an icebreaker they could use

00:28:21.980 that will allow them to then not be the center of it interesting you know sim the article is so good

00:28:28.700 on horizon within and you you brought up two points the the covid and chat gpt is it the fact that colbert

00:28:37.740 and the lockdown and everything came at the worst possible time with the prevalence of ai chat gpt

00:28:43.100 or is that just coincidental are they all just sort of meeting to conspire a lot of people in this

00:28:48.380 generation in this society are turning to their phone instead of a human being to get their therapy

00:28:54.700 mix i would say like chicken or the egg kind of thing okay right because we can't say if ai was going to

00:29:03.340 crest itself in 2025 right because we didn't know whether there was conversation about it so but there's

00:29:13.180 a greater attraction to it i think because of a social trauma that we still don't understand what we

00:29:19.980 experience really think about it we were locked down for two and a half three years yeah i guess

00:29:24.380 and then what happened one day things were back to me okay just go go ahead yeah right and and we kind

00:29:30.380 of like adapted but there was no like understanding of it and none of us want to go back to decode it

00:29:35.500 but it's affected right like i know it took me a good year to be socially comfortable in large crowd even

00:29:44.860 you really i'm a human being oh no i know i mean like have you got so many red lights green lights

00:29:50.460 going yeah okay that's interesting right yeah so i you know like going to a raptors game yeah right

00:29:58.540 like for me in 23 i was like i don't ever want to be around 20 000 people in february right because it

00:30:05.900 was imprinted but then using the tools that i kind of share with others i then said i have to

00:30:13.580 reintegrate into society because that is part and parcel of being in society yes i can be more

00:30:20.300 mindful you know i can be a little bit more like you did somebody's unwell or whatever you know afford

00:30:25.900 that or more vitamin c better health like what things can i do that are personal to me that allow

00:30:32.620 me to have you're gonna get sick you'll have to be fearful of the same as five years ago i can bring

00:30:38.860 rationale in this is where personal help comes in because yes i have i'm inhuman i have my journeys

00:30:44.860 i have my experiences just because i'm a therapist doesn't mean i'm immune to that's a good point no

00:30:50.700 yeah yeah that's what makes a therapist more human is that they also acknowledge that we're we're dealing

00:30:57.580 with emotions and have some of the same pitfalls that the client may have we all have the same

00:31:02.140 people right we just process it differently that's the most unique aspect that i bring to every session

00:31:11.660 is we're the same we just may do it differently and because i come from a professional lens

00:31:19.100 i can pick certain things quickly because i've been trained to do those things right or to recognize

00:31:26.300 a pattern and then to have a conversation about it and say okay how would you like to do it and then

00:31:34.540 we always work with what tool would you need so you can function then we can go back and say okay what

00:31:42.700 will we need you're not crippled by it sim how how long will this trend of using ai chat gpt

00:31:51.420 to answer mental health questions continue this is for this is with us forever oh it's you got to look

00:31:59.500 at which generation is going to adapt to it the most right the the the responsibility also sits with

00:32:08.060 the people that provide the information so like you can't simplify trauma you can't simplify anxiety there

00:32:17.500 are no quick fixes that's what scares me is the number of followers a lot of these accounts yes

00:32:25.740 these influencers have and you know i'm not coming from a position of opinion but i'm coming from a

00:32:32.060 position of observation and working with people and understanding the complexities of it and then when

00:32:37.820 i look at the imprints and i'm sorry the truth of your motivation is numbers of course which is your

00:32:46.780 business and money exactly so you're looking at how do you sensationalize the next problem right

00:32:55.420 without under without being able to understand that it has a consequence and that's the unfortunate part

00:33:03.740 of what technology is and then we're in an office party for the holidays sim and someone goes did you see

00:33:10.460 the podcast or do you hear the youtube video with so-and-so and they were talking about this and your

00:33:15.420 must be like oh no yeah well you know if they go this could have been an email

00:33:23.500 uh it's a very trademark that actually oh my god it's fantastic yeah you can use that actually please

00:33:29.180 uh i recommend everyone horizon within with sinchabra uh check it out horizonwithin.ca uh office christmas

00:33:36.220 party anxiety when chat gpt is not enough if you want a complimentary consultation 905-871-5502

00:33:45.180 i speak to a human being like sim and maybe just if you might find out it'll help you a lot more than

00:33:51.740 chat gpt sim happy holidays all the best over the holidays in the new year and merry christmas and i

00:33:57.260 just love that thank you so much thank you so much and thank you for having me it's a pleasure yeah thank

00:34:00.860 you

The Dangers of TikTok Therapy

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