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True Patriot Love
- September 25, 2026
Toronto’s Wildest Muay Thai Night? Inside Iron 8 ft. Benson, Karina & Fighters
Hosted by
Shara Micucci
Mike Wixson
Guests
Benson
Mentioned
Muay Thai
Karina
Is Your Home Ready for the Next Extreme Storm? ft. Tony Romanelli
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if you're a fan of fights uh mma ufc boxing wrestling all of these are fantastic forms
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of fight and they are highly entertaining but if you've missed muay thai you might have missed the
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greatest fighting on earth and it's got a vast history coming up in toronto thanks to ish
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productions we will have the iron eight grand prix an elimination fight tournament right here
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in toronto to talk more about that with me today benson and karina from ish how are you thanks for
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having us now you guys are just a promoter you're also running a gym simultaneously we're running a
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gym we're running a fight team uh she runs the women's program the kids program she's also an
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ontario certified teacher so she does it all for us as well and not not only that but you are
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a lovely couple yes oh yeah i mean we're outing me now yeah yeah we are i'm so sorry nobody
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you're so lucky so uh let's talk a little bit about this this is not a small thing uh putting
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on a promotion like this it's a big deal not only that but it's an exciting matchup that you've put
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together oh yeah uh how did this come about where did you start the process of putting this kind of
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tournament together so um it started pretty much well from my experience when i used to fight
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and i remember i used to fight in new york quite a bit and they had this one promotion the friday
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night fights they did a lot of boxing shows and muay thai shows and they would do a annual
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eight-man tournament and same same same idea top the best guys in the north america they have them
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all matched up together and obviously they make all the canadian guys face each other first
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cancel each other out so we can fight an american in the finals and uh yeah it was just i always
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knew that there was like something i want to bring here in toronto especially you know muay thai is
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such a ontario is such a hotbed for muay thai uh there's more muay thai gyms than 7-elevens it's
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amazing i i do want to address that actually i think that it's uh because it is something that
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you can begin at such a young age as a training uh process that there are and i noticed that
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there are and even people in my age group that participate there's a club and they are all my
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age and these guys are rolling every day they're they're doing and kicking every day they're putting
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it in the work yeah those guys it's amazing it's a lifestyle at that point i think so and i think
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that the benefits to it for your health and things like that especially in just the training and gym
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scenario are so beneficial uh it gives keeps you the agility and absolutely you know this sense of
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balance and confidence that you might not otherwise have yeah great for your mental as
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well you know it's just it's just so bad so much benefits you can't even like you know you don't
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have to compete in muay thai you know and just the overall mental physical benefits of it and
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you know some people they just find a place for community and that's what really what works for
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us in our gym as well i think the community is a big part of it when people really come together
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they have the support people working towards just bettering themselves in general doesn't
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I'd say, like, of people who train, maybe, what, 4% actually go on to compete?
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Like, it's actually a very small percent.
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And most people come there just for community health exercise.
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So thank you. Now back to the show.
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So let's talk about the promotion, Karina.
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What's the, tell me about the event itself.
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What's going to make it so exciting?
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Yeah, so honestly, I think it all, so back to his point about how he used to compete in the eight-man.
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I was in the audience at that point, and I remember seeing it from the audience perspective,
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like seeing these eight men going back-to-back fighting, and I loved it, too.
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So I think just what we're trying to recreate for this event is just that energy throughout the entire night.
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Our promotion is known for being very high-energy live events.
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Some people have compared it to, like, I feel like I went to a club,
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or some other people have said, I just felt overstimulated.
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Like, the last show we had, we had mariachi bands and a luchador coming in with a smoke gun.
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It was insane.
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What?
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yeah and i think i have dreams like this it was exactly like that it was exactly like that
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yeah i think we both like we like to party and we like a good time we like to bring people together
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and so i think yeah it's all about so yes it's fight nights it's muay thai but also like the
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overall experience and like you know the production the lights the sound the dj the people the ring
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girls like it's all part of like an experience like you leave and you're like wow that was a
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good night you know i think we're gonna have the opportunity to speak to the fighters as they come
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of the ring which will be a big deal for me but what do you expect to uh what do you expect the
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fighters to go through in a grueling night where it eliminates yeah eight you know seven people
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what's that like for the fighters i mean i'll speak for experience it's just you gotta you
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gotta first of all enter this tournament with the attitude that i'm gonna go through every single
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one i don't care if it's you you or you and line them up and i'll knock them all down you know and
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it's gonna be tough you know you're gonna have to win a couple and after you win there may be a
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chance for them to say hey guess what you're fighting in about an hour from now half an hour
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from now wow get your ish together they say that pressure is something else and i think it's cool
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too the fact that one of the other interviews with um i think it was will ortiz and he was saying you
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know normally you prep before a fight but you don't know who you're fighting right you're studying
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all seven of these guys right yeah yeah this sounds to me like a pay-per-view uh like pay-per-view
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bait to be honest with you yeah so uh tell me about some of the fighters that we're gonna see
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that night uh you don't have to give me them all but you know give me a highlight spotlight some of
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the people that are gonna be in the ring like karina just first mentioned will ortiz you know
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he's the muay thai ontario champion muay thai canada i mean like that guy is uh uh he's i'm
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pretty sure the only toronto uh fighter in this tournament so uh we've got our guys from the
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derham area we've got two guys coming flying down from mexico states from the midwest and
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hamilton but will ortiz you know he's gonna definitely be the local fan favorite for sure
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and he's you know he conducts himself like an absolute champion and he comes from a very
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reputable gym under uh crew mikey perez uh south side you know a very well reputable gym um known
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all around the world now and you know then you're gonna have guys like um the wild card like uh
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rion mcnab you know he's uh you know people ask him what gym he's out of and he's kind of like
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a ronin a masterless samurai almost i want to market him as you know and he brings on a lot
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of pressure he's an exciting guy to watch and then you got these guys from mexico two different parts
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of mexico coming down and they're they're one guy actually already cleaned house in the canadian
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muay thai open oh my god and he actually has fought some of the guys he's fought rion so
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it's it's a lot there's a lot of stories are on there there's a leo leo wind from um the
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kitchener area from the tri-city area and he's um a former teammate of rion so there's a lot of
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drama going into this a lot of history and drama going into this tournament if there isn't before
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there's going to be afterward because these guys are all going to be looking at each other all
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night long wondering who's next who's next uh it sounds to me okay so how do they find out
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who's fighting who like what's the process well that's oh yeah yeah i'll let you know i was gonna
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say that's actually where rama gaming comes in which is awesome so it's all going to be lottery
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based so rama gaming is a local uh is your sponsor locally sponsored locally okay fantastic yes yes
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so very exciting to have them on board so um the eight men are going to come into the ring they're
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all going to line up and then there's going to be a bingo drum with eight balls inside and they're
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all going to be numbered one to eight oh nice and one at a time the guys are going to go they have
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no idea what what they're going to do i mean who they're going to fight next they're going to pick
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a ball it'll be number one verse number two number three verse number four five or six seven
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verse eight so then they'll all line up and they won't even know who they're fighting so one might
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get picked and then number four might get picked and then finally number two we just made a match
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so we're gonna on the spot they'll find out while the audience also find out so it's gonna be like
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it's a lot of drum rolls a lot of drum rolls every single time yeah fantastic and thanks
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for that as well yes yes big shout out to uh that that sounds fantastic so uh okay now let's just
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paint the picture anybody who hasn't been to a muay thai event what's the difference between
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what you would see in mma and in the ufc in general and what you're going to find that night
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i get the excitement's going to be there that's cool what are you going to see this different in
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the fight styles definitely well in terms of uh the way a muay thai show is conducted you know
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there is this thing a traditional uh ceremonial dance that the fighters do they they come inside
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they seal the ring they go around the ropes and seal the rings to traditionally to ward off any
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bad juju energy you know and um uh just like a like almost like a dance to say it's um
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what's the word i want to look for like just giving things to their their coaches and perform
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their like you know their gym's traditional dance ceremonial dance so to speak so there's that
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aspect that's a very cool aspect right so there's the culture side of that and speaking of the
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culture side of it you know um they're also gonna you know just we all we it's it's gonna be a
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competitive night but at the end of the day you know we still put our hands together say thank
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you so much it was an honor it's traditionally that's how it is for most muay thai fighters you
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know and it's pretty frowned upon and you know you know other other fight other fight realms don't
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have this yeah no very evidence uh show of respect through it all and i think that's too something
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that we both said like we want to be really true to and still keep that culture alive like
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you know to that at the end of the day it is muay thai it's a beautiful sport so like they're
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coming in it's competitive like he said but at the end of the day there's still that love and
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mutual respect for their opponents so i am looking forward to the event where can people find out
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more if they're watching this and they want to come out that night yeah yeah um yeah tickets are
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on uh eventbrite so uh follow us on instagram ish fight promotions um yeah tickets are live
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there's a general admission vip sales get the vip you get ring drink service from the ring girl so
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that's really exciting oh that's cool ring girls gonna be serving drinks and also if you can't
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come in live you can still watch it and stream it live on millions.com yes i'm gonna come there
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live i'm glad that it's streaming but i'll be there live awesome thank you both uh it is the
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iron man grand prix going on in toronto yes uh and uh details we'll make sure are available
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in the description link below thanks so much thank you so much appreciate you
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all right so today i'm lucky enough to have two muay thai experts with me omar muhammad and adele
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hamruni so you guys are about to compete in the iron eight so it's at the warehouse at downsview
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we're so excited doors opening at five six o'clock the bell goes off so tell me guys so
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um we just uh met benton a few weeks ago and i've been watching muay thai probably for about three
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four years now so because i i love watching the fights and i'm my age i watch all the legend stuff
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so the legends of muay thai how did you guys get in like omar how did you get into muay thai
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so we always started from back home algeria um i had like a lot of friends they trained like
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martial arts like judo boxing kickboxing it was my first start with kickboxing because i really
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liked the sport it was a lot of striking quick movements a lot of it was just a sport that
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really impressed me that i said let me jump on it so i jumped on a couple years i liked it then
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started fighting well it all started from there yeah good how'd you get into it it was uh when
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i was a kid i used to always get in um fights and stuff especially in school and then you know my
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dad put me in judo at first that's where i started my dad used to take me and then i wanted to um
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start strike because obviously i had grappling but i wanted to do striking and um yeah i found muay
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thai and i i liked it and i'm here now and how do you guys meet benton uh that was actually a
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interesting story so basically after i came to canada i had my little brother i wanted to put
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him more striking sport shout out to him he's one of the old bro um so i brought him to the gym
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uh because i seen the gym basically was next to the house i brought him then he met benson
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told him like take care of my brother whatever then i stopped watching my brother he started
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really progressing really fast and he jumped into his first fight which was at the age promotion
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and he made an incredible debut and since then like i said let me just jump and see how it is
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so i'll start training muay thai which is kind of similar to kickboxing but there's more of stuff
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added to it like elbows knees clinching and yeah since then i started jumping to muay thai fights
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him yeah good how'd you meet him benson yeah in his promotion um well he's my coach so i when i
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started training at virtue you know i was there but then when i became a fighter he started um
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respecting me more so he became you know close with me and stuff so yeah no good good big fight
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coming up give me some insight how do you feel training wise training going good you're feeling
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strong i feel good to be honest i'm i'm confident you know i thought i thought people with you know
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better experience than this guy so it's not it's not gonna be he's not gonna he's not gonna be a
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problem to me but still i'm not gonna take i'm not gonna take him lightly i'm still gonna be
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training hard and um you know go in there and show my talent and yeah so more physical is important
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mentally as well as physically right of course yes no mentally i try i used to before when i
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started i used to get you know think about the fight how it's gonna go but now i usually i just
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don't think about it at all i just train and just let it flow just let everything flow and um you
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You know, when I get to the fight, I'll trust my training
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and just start fighting and just flow.
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That's literally what it is.
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All right, back to the show.
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The last few seconds before you go in the ring, tell me how it feels.
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because for those viewers out there who don't know what it's like you know when the crowd is
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there you got a thousand people and the crowd's yelling and screaming and you're about to go up
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what is the dopamine rush what's the how do you stay calm right like how do you how do you keep
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that control so it all starts from like before if you train hard enough you'll obviously be
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confident enough about your fight obviously never you'll have like a little bit of adrenaline rush
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whatever you'll be stressed out it never changes before every fight but what splits between a scared
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fighter and a confident fighter is training the more you sweat into the fight the less you bleed
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in the fight wow that's good good advice so for the iron eight right how do you conserve your
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energy so that's an interesting thing right like you got to conserve your energy to get
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any advice to the fighters for yourself on how do you conserve your as you're going through
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the elimination i'm not doing i'm doing a single fight oh just one yeah yeah all right for me
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energy it's you know i just go in there and just fight until i'm done and then just get out that's
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that's about it for me oh good how about you yeah i don't over complicate it like whenever it goes
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to the fight it depends like what i have a plan for my coach and yeah i just get through it oh
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good i just stick to the plan good good so career-wise so tell me about muay thai where
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you want to go with it sort of i know you enjoy you guys are young what's the next step you as
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you're fighting is it something you look to do yeah so my next step obviously we're committing
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our whole life to this sport you know leaving our jobs our school a lot of stuff to just get these
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a couple hours of training these extra times that can progress and takes you to the next level
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um i see myself in the one championship in the future i really like the the promotion it's a
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big promotion especially i like the small gloves and i have some good hands i feel like i can do
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something and be knocking people out um i like i'm also like getting some training some ma training
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I'm getting better in my grappling.
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I wrestle more.
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Maybe then I can get some MMA fights and see how it goes.
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Right now, I don't have a specific plan.
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If I'm going to keep fighting a Muay Thai, I'm going to keep fighting MMA.
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So I'm just kind of doing both.
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And whenever the opportunity comes, I'll take it.
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Good for you.
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Adele, how about you?
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Personally, same thing.
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Obviously, I want to make it to one championship.
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You know, fighting at one championship is literally a dream, you know.
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um especially like he says small gloves it's gonna be you know it's gonna be fun but yeah i
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like i love muay thai you know mma a lot of people you know they say there's a lot of money in mma but
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i i love muay thai to be honest i'll stick with muay thai for for now yeah no no you got to do
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it turn john right i boxed as a kid right so uh i loved it at the time you know so going forward
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right so we know you know you guys want to get to one or you want to do mma right for those people
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coming so give me some to the people that are coming out on uh the third october 3rd you're
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going to come through those doors what are they going to see like what are they going to feel
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because you guys have been to fights if you haven't been to a fight before if you're new to the fight
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game if you want to bring your kids to the fight what are you going to see and basically what are
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they going to learn yeah so basically whenever it comes to the ish promotion like we've seen
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i've seen one of them only which is was the debut of my brother promotion always you're
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going to see a lot of crowd a lot of pressure a lot of people excited to see a good show so
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obviously we walked in there have to put on a show you have to get used to the environment whatever
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and just get through and put on a show for the people you know lights fun entertainment it's
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going to be a full night you're going to see ring girls you're going to see a lot of energy so so
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you know what this is what it's all about right so that's the fun stuff you know and benson and
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his wife do a great job at putting that show on guys i wish you all the best i can't wait to come
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i'll be there of course and i'm bringing my whole team so we're going to come watch and support um
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we know you guys are going to do well so you know you look like you both are in great shape
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so enjoy have fun enjoy the ride trust me you're only young so long um and uh i wish you guys well
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i'll see you on the third and uh thanks for taking the time today appreciate it appreciate it thank
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you third october see y'all soon all right so october 3rd is fast approaching the iron 8 is
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almost here and at the warehouse on downs view so we're so excited we're nice we're so happy to be
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part of it today i was lucky enough for asdar wish came and thank you brother for spending the time
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thank you you're in the uh co-event uh co-main event co-main event so you have a 12 5-0 so you're
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a seasoned fighter you've been doing this for a while before we get into the actual fight and who
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you're fighting uh how did you get into this sport because um you know muay thai is uh you know it's
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an interesting sport it's been around for thousands of years we love it but i just i'm always interested
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how people start absolutely uh i've been uh i've been in the fighting scene since i was super super
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young i started with karate okay um wasn't violent enough you know i had to throw some
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eyeballs some knees some stuff like that my father was a fighter my uncle was a fighter
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my grandfather um it's just in our blood okay i'm palestinian very proud of that so we're fighting
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we're fighting people yeah so um i started training when i was 12 years old 13 years old
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that is siam number one um we moved around a lot um as a young family um then i ended up going to
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bodybuilding for a while it wasn't until uh covet hit that uh you know um i got covet and i was i
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was a very big i was a very big bodybuilder so i lost a lot of weight okay and in that whole
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covet time the only thing i was doing was watching muay thai fights i'm like i'm gonna get back into
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it the minute gyms open i knew about my current home york muay thai since i was since i was at
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i am since it was a um chained off gym kind of thing and um i joined as soon as gyms opened and
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i've been competing ever since wow that's a great story yes so you like discipline yeah yeah you
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love that that that something like you can feel it in your voice when you're talking like you like
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that well bodybuilding is true discipline right and then muay thai is even more because you know
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people start from uh you know over in thailand they start from a very young age and they work
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their way up so you you were doing the same yeah so um we got a fight coming up so talk to us a
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little bit about the fight you know your co-main event uh you're going to be fighting gentlemen
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from the midwest how are you feeling like are you feeling your training going well yeah i've been in
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fight camp for five years straight i don't take a single day off um i got this call um not too long
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actually and uh my crews know it's already a yes from me so um i was all in especially when i heard
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it's american even better for me you know i love the rivalry i love the i want all the smoke they
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say you know it's an a-class fight it's gonna be no gear i'm gonna give uh the doctors a job to do
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that night you know so it's gonna be it's gonna be pure violence for sure oh no gear yeah so what
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does that what does that mean so no headgear no shin pads okay just just uh elbow pads that's it
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when you started so you so you when you started at uh covid time right so you came out of covid
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you start this you really get into this sport have you noticed i guess you noticed your advancement
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as you're going through it right you notice kind of and what what's the thing you notice the most
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like as you're as you're developing as a fighter i'm just the technique honestly i've always had
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power um i was always a bigger guy but now that i've slimmed down i'm at my perfect like prime
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weight i would say yeah my technique has just been there um i'm always studying i'm always
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seeing what's what style is the best and stuff like that so i've just been putting my whole
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arsenal together right what weight are you going in at uh it's going to be a catch weight of 170
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170 that's a good weight yeah yeah and you feel that is that your yeah you know people have
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strongest weight right do you feel that's one of your strongest weights yeah i mean uh my first
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six six to eight fights were around 81 kilos so it was a bit heavier but even like just this year
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i i moved up weight classes overnight just they got a fight because my opponent dropped okay um
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so 75 kilo 81 kilo it doesn't matter to me i know what i bring to the table so it's fine oh wow good
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good um training now so uh you know where's the sport if you look at yourself where do you want
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to go with it so you know you've got into moita after covid yeah you know you're picking up some
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fights you're 17 fights in right so are you looking at what's the next level for you just
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keep going i mean i've been waiting to get the a-class since i started my first for my first
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fight because you know now now when the now when the gear comes off you see yeah you have a little
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little bit more time two minutes is just too too fast for me now we get three minutes a little bit
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better down the road there's going to be five rounds title fights um i want to fight all over
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the place fought in the u.s i want to go you know i see people go to mexico i'm going to thailand in
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january i mean i just want to fight all over the globe i want to do it i've been wanting to do it
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since i was a kid so i'm going to do it till my wheels fall off base kind of thing oh nice you're
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going to thailand in january january yeah wow who are you fighting over there i'll find someone
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okay oh wow that's so cool um and your family are they they're in your obviously in your corner
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right absolutely and they come watch all your fights absolutely oh good good what did they fight
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in um you mentioned your dad and your yeah i mean it was so long ago i mean but uh my dad used to
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fight back home you know back in the middle east stuff like that my uncle was a canadian muay thai
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champion over here oh wow in the 90s so he fought in calgary he fought over here um he has all his
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type fights on uh vcr that's at that time right so we always we always pop them in we we see those
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those old old classic fights yeah so they can and your style is moi mat yeah right and i know there's
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uh different uh moi styles right so how does moi mat different than the other styles uh moi mat's
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basically a heavy puncher um my my hands have always been my strong suit i mean but uh again
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as i'm training i mean my legs my knees my elbows i mean i've had a couple stoppages in my elbows so
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that's that's all falling into place too so i'm dangerous everywhere yeah uh but uh you know my
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hands are my my go-to wow it sounds amazing uh you know so we the feeling i always ask the fighters
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this because you know i boxed as a kid and uh the feeling the night of the fight right you're
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going to be there thousand people cheering the music playing what's in your head because that's
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what i think the the viewers i'd like to share with them because that was the coolest part for
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me when i was a kid and i fight because it was that it's that butterflies it's that feeling it's
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that anxiety kind of but you know trying to keep calm to remember everything you trained to do
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talk about a little bit about because for the viewers because i i get tingles when i'm talking
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to you buddy yeah i mean to be honest with you those tingles left at like the fifth sixth fight
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i mean now i just know where i need to be um the fight night's the easy night the training where
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i'm sweating every single ounce of liquid in me i'm bleeding where everything's going on you know
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that's the hard part uh five six days a week that that's that's the fight you know what i mean
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the fight night's the easy part that's where we have fun that's where your family your friends
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everyone's coming your hand gets raised you go out you celebrate that's that's that's the fun part
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that's the congratulatory part of it you know what i mean yeah so i mean anxiety i definitely wouldn't
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say i have anxiety i'm excited to be there and i i could fight today if i could wow you you're
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really loving it you love it you can you can feel it in your voice right the the discipline that's
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good man the you won some awards right you won i was just reading your bio before mto fighter of
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year yes can you tell what that is and how you got it that was uh i think 20 24 um seven and all run
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in c class 81 kilos most part of the year that was provided to me by moita ontario wow that's
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so cool um balance right so because you're training you're working uh how do you how do
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do you pull it all together with with just life right is it is it your single occupation right
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now or is it you know are you doing other things or is this just where you're going right no i mean
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i do i do i have a job i do have a business um in the car industry i'm a finance manager so i work
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with dealerships and stuff like that i also have a tire business as well i've been doing that since
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i was about 15 years old tires and stuff like that so i've always been in the car industry
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i've always had a job and a career um but fighting is you know it's right up there you know what i
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mean so it's it's from office to the gym right away like and then then we go home you know so
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it's that's that's that fills my week six days a week cars and fighting cars and fighting that's
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everyone knows me they know cars and they know fighting you're gonna be doing a movie next
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no i appreciate it i wish you all the best so good luck you know and uh i'll be there i'm bringing
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a whole crew to the fight and i hope uh all of you will be there um october 3rd downs you uh
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the warehouse and doors open at five six o'clock the bell rings come on out it's going to be a fun
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night lots of music lots of fun lots of energy and great fighters so thank you and i appreciate
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you taking the time.
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Appreciate it.
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