00:00:00.000But, you know, it's interesting because Brad Bradford, who's a mayoral candidate from the Beaches, East York, he's a councillor currently, he comes out on the heels of this and says, we need a thousand new officers.
00:00:14.240So if I get elected a thousand new officers, that's on the day that the police chief, the existing police chief, reports that it's down.
00:00:21.480thanks for joining us tpl media tplmedia.ca tplmedia.ca
00:00:31.120slash local because we might be in your neighborhood uh joining me as always paul
00:00:36.880micucci for this week's crime update or i guess this week we could say crime down date as it seems
00:00:45.020like we uh we're getting news that uh crime uh crime stats showed that crime is down certainly
00:00:52.700out of toronto yeah out of toronto so uh chief demq he actually showed up about three days ago
00:01:00.220in uh in a hearing uh where he was a couple things at the board one thing he was looking for
00:01:07.180a extension of contract uh which he got he got a four-year extension of his contract but he did
00:01:13.500report to us that actually our crime rate index is down by six percent mike okay so now can i throw
00:01:20.780something at you seems it seems uh i don't know that seems tough to swallow to be honest with you
00:01:27.180well you know it's interesting so i i love stats so i dug into the stats me paul stats me all right
00:01:32.940so the operating budget this is for the toronto police service tps is 1.7 billion dollars that's
00:01:40.700a huge tab it's a big tab right um year over year they got a 93 million dollar increase
00:01:48.700which turns out to be a seven percent increase they got 143 additional officers um for
00:01:57.82020.5 million and i'm sorry how many officers 143 new officers okay right so they've got
00:02:05.980it doesn't seem like a lot of officers per capita in toronto uh well that's new ones right that's
00:02:12.300on top so that's the new ones to come in on board so again we saw this seven percent increase in
00:02:17.660budget we see a six percent decrease in crimes now crimes have been going down apparently when
00:02:23.900you look at the crime index across canada everywhere but new brunswick and noon of it
00:02:28.460why i have no idea mike so you know i don't feel like they're going down i don't feel like i'm
00:02:36.980hearing less about crime you know and this was an interesting so what kind of got me going when i
00:02:42.660looked at this i'm thinking okay you know we just came uh off you know a mass shooting uh uh at a
00:02:50.780festival we had on lawrence um the ryan wedding which we're going to talk about in a minute massive
00:02:57.100project south matt's massive bus bust big implication directly with the police force
00:03:02.700exactly so that was all in the news and then you know windsor we saw this you know tons and tons
00:03:09.260of drugs guns actually confiscated on a logistics bust that was transportation across canada um and
00:03:18.380they had you know boatloads of drugs on a table we saw it on the news so i'm thinking to myself
00:03:24.380well man everything i see so when i watch you know news and tv i seem to be seeing a lot of crime
00:03:33.660then i started to think to myself am i just being fed so much crime that my mind is telling me
00:03:40.860because the stats don't match the news the news not not the news but the the percentage of news
00:03:48.940time dedicated to and the number of stories dedicated uh to crime right i get you i don't
00:03:57.580disagree paul so and the fact mike that news cycles all day long so here's the interesting
00:04:04.060thing so some of you who are too young you won't remember we used to watch news you know once a day
00:04:10.500maybe twice a day if you stayed up late they had six and eleven eleven yeah the news at six and
00:04:17.26011 with you know ron burgundy right you know yeah so that's what we used to your kids are drinking
00:04:23.020lead in their water at school more news at 11. remember they used to catch you with a headline
00:04:28.540and you'd be like yeah well i'm going to wait up an extra hour because i want to see what they're
00:04:32.460talking about so you used to watch so then once you processed it you went to bed or you ate dinner
00:04:39.180or you went outside and you know played tennis or you did something or you went into your garage
00:04:45.100worked on your car you listened to the radio the radio quite frankly in those days you used to
00:04:50.700listen to sports so you used to listen to a baseball game or whatever my dad it wasn't news
00:04:55.420around the clock no no my dad would have a yankees game on you know quite frankly a baseball game
00:05:00.620before the blue jays you know we'd listen to the maple leaf games in the winter and then off we go
00:05:05.820now you know i was thinking this weekend as we were getting ready for the show all weekend these
00:05:11.420news stations process the cycle the same news and they cut off at six so their live news goes from
00:05:17.660like six or on the weekends from eight in the morning to you know six at night right and then
00:05:24.060it cycles all night so when you have it on at night or when you go through it you're not getting any
00:05:28.700new news you're just getting the news from the day that's cycling through so you're seeing the same
00:05:34.460crimes the same incidents the same things so as part of that the stats because the stats don't
00:05:39.900jive well i don't hold on i think you're right i think you're right okay i don't think i think
00:05:46.320the stats yeah i think the stats and the news are disconnected the report that you and i watched
00:05:51.900god bless john musselman at ctv news right he got on there and he gave us the stats he didn't he
00:05:57.200didn't really dive into why does it feel like this or that but the truth is that's the same
00:06:03.700news people that put the festival on st lawrence or on lawrence the uh salsa festival on lawrence
00:06:11.300in toronto they put it on tv for weeks at a time i'm not going to say what story you and i were
00:06:19.300involved in but we might have had a life of crime at one point and made the news and you might
00:06:23.940recall at that time paul what we what we were on the news about had very little to do with reality
00:06:31.460and it was there every day for how long a week and a half oh yeah over a state one single statement
00:06:37.060that we made that was misconstrued and it made the news forever more there afterward giving the
00:06:43.620impression that it was something that it wasn't and i think that is what we're experiencing with
00:06:47.300crime if it bleeds it leads that has never changed right yeah yeah no and but it's confusing because
00:06:53.300here we are here we are watching all this uh this crime through through our news stations then we
00:06:59.380have the police chief get up and say you know it's going down now he's kind of saying it's going down
00:07:04.340based on the uh crimes that he is addressing so that's the you know the devil's in the details
00:07:14.020so he's not talking about convictions he's not talking about charges no these are based solely
00:07:19.940on crimes reported reported right so now that makes it confusing because the definition of
00:07:26.180reported so uh that you know so where do these stats begin and end yeah like how recently
00:07:34.420you know well this was 2025 i think mike is where he was okay he was reporting on but to your point
00:07:40.420you know and you've given a shout out the um police chief of vancouver oh yeah steve ray right
00:07:46.660so shout out to him because you know like it or not he actually does an amazing job of analytics
00:07:53.380So when you go on the Vancouver site and you take a look, again, he's reporting crimes are down, too.
00:07:59.620And he's got this new task force barrage that he's trying to go against gangs and everything else.
00:09:30.440So this is an amusing Toronto as an example here.
00:09:32.880So because, you know, I'm not picking on them because I do like I do like the crew there.
00:09:36.720But but, you know, it's interesting because Brad Bradford, who's a mayoral candidate from the beaches, East York, he's a counselor currently.
00:09:46.840He comes out on the heels of this and says, we need a thousand new officers.
00:09:51.560So if I get elected a thousand new officers because there are staffing concerns, there's issues, you know, they're they're basically understaffed.
00:10:24.280that's how many, I think, RCMP we asked for last year
00:10:27.160in the federal budget to come into play.
00:10:30.500He's asking for Toronto alone to get 1,000 people into play.
00:10:34.200so who's gonna now this is the interesting part so now it's become trendy for mayors
00:10:40.980now to not be part of the police boards well you mentioned to me that uh carolyn parrish
00:10:47.840walked away based on protest of the uh the upcoming budget yes um olivia chow as a
00:10:54.580representative on the police board so i'm just there's a few there's i'm not picking on them
00:10:59.220either there's a multiple number of mayors who don't sit on police boards now they don't want
00:11:03.260to be too close to crime but bradford said he wants to no well his his proposal is that every
00:11:09.180mayor should sit on the police board and they should if you're going to find if you're if your
00:11:14.340job is to actually public safety how can you do it well when you don't sit directly on the police
00:11:19.960board whether you like the budget don't like the budget whether you like what the police chiefs do
00:11:24.040or don't like the police chief you should have a vote on the board to try to determine or direct
00:11:29.980that group to actually you know increase safety in your community i don't disagree so i don't i
00:11:36.540don't know where that i don't know how that we allowed that to happen you know it was kind of
00:11:40.180funny when he it was a weird kind of coming into the weekend you got these stats saying it's going
00:11:45.380down you got him saying a thousand people you got all the sudden he's talking about the fact that
00:11:50.140and i i kind of looked into it when he said it because i was like skeptical i i went and i grew
00:11:54.780and i'm like oh mayors don't sit on police boards when did that start i always i just assumed that
00:11:59.840they did well they did they used to and honestly it was kind of like given in my mind and i'm like
00:12:04.080oh why doesn't that happen if they're funding it they should definitely have eyes on it yeah now
00:12:08.560you know there is this push for more rec centers and more early involvement with people to try to
00:12:13.920get kids and that off the street okay but crime is down right yeah crime is down you know and
00:12:22.320it's interesting so i'll keep saying it until we believe it paul i mean but but on the heels of
00:12:27.040this morning hate crime is up so we got up this morning and now we're hearing hate crime is up so
00:12:33.360quite frankly we're hearing now the definition of hate crime has changed over the last year
00:12:38.640so that's the other thing i think we need to well these aren't crimes that's the other thing these
00:12:43.440aren't crimes these are crimes reported not convictions not charges not arrests right crimes
00:12:52.400reported not convictions none of that is part of that thought process right so how about this why
00:13:00.480don't we have one set of stats based on one set of definitions therefore we can create a benchmark
00:13:07.280and figure out where our hot zones are like it just seems mike again we're it's frustrating
00:13:13.840because we're all over the place on this one i i have to tell you i much like you i feel like
00:13:21.120it seems impossible that crime overall is down i mean but is that is that an is that the optics
00:13:28.160that you're getting see maybe your brain is telling you it's up because you keep seeing it
00:13:32.400i think that that is it maybe your brain and i you know i'm now going to question i'm you know
00:13:37.440after this uh conversation that we had pre-show i'm really going to dig into it we're going to
00:13:42.560spend some time and really dig in and and i think what needs to happen now is someone's got to go
00:13:47.920across there's got to be someone doing it someone's got to go across and ask each of the jurisdictions
00:13:53.200each of the uh provinces and territories what are their reported crime stats for 2025 based on what
00:14:01.760definitions yeah i think you're standardizing a definition of what is uh the crime index the crime
00:14:09.760severity index itself is a complex confusing thing it's based on it it's an algorithm right yes so
00:14:17.360You know, the other thing that I will say is this, if it is that we are constantly seeing this barrage of crime through the reporting that it's on TV, it's lazy.
00:14:31.920And you need to know if you're consuming media like that, that maybe the first six minutes of the news is worthwhile because you're getting updated.
00:14:41.020But if you watch more than six minutes of that news or you continue watching it, you're going to get the same six minutes, 30 minutes of conjecture, the same six minutes, 30 minutes of conjecture.
00:14:52.220It doesn't really make a lot of sense to the brain.
00:14:54.740I have to say, I think that that does that place in heavily here.
00:14:58.640The media is being lazy about actually doing journalism and they fill the gaps with don't forget there was a crime.
00:24:37.020This is almost, you know, seven, eight months after the original arrest, and some suspect it's because the charge just fell off the investigation table.
00:25:31.320Ontario Provincial Police and 25 local police services announced more than 200 charges against 63 people in a province-wide online child exploitation investigation, which was conducted during June.
00:25:46.500154 investigations are still ongoing now, even that the release of the information is there.
00:25:54.260And I told you, and we talked about this, that on our journey out west, we noticed a lot of trafficking, human trafficking, child exploitation warnings, all along that very same highway.
00:26:35.640The Crown bypassed preliminary hearings via indictments to send five active officers and one retired officer straight to Superior Court trial.
00:26:45.800So this one's kind of, this one's picking up scene.
00:26:48.800Now, the one gentleman who pled guilty, so he actually has been convicted already, and he was an existing police officer, and he had stole cell phones and property from a police station to actually send information to the gang in order to facilitate.
00:27:14.300So this is the one with, you know, the prison officer.
00:27:31.080And as it's going, you're hearing more and more details.
00:27:34.540The U.S. and the Canadian enforcement, drug enforcement,
00:27:40.220actually have a bunch of things they're about to release.
00:27:43.000so this one's pending and we're going to hear more about it over the next few months but this one
00:27:47.000this one just keeps getting uh muddier and muddier and more is coming into this so again you know
00:27:53.980this is an interesting one where you know we just talked about uh the announcement that our crime
00:27:59.240rates have gone down but you know only a couple months ago was the same group kind of sitting at
00:28:04.780a podium telling us they had to clean up everything yeah that's crime rates among civilians
00:28:09.580ball yeah yeah i don't know who again this is the importance of getting these stats into place mike
00:28:15.580also you know full reporting is a big deal i mean we this is when you say it's a muddy scenario
00:28:22.380that's because no this is clear the police aren't giving information to journalists who don't aren't
00:28:28.380there there's no journalists there saying wait a minute but unravel this forum yeah define this
00:28:33.260yeah yeah and and that's the challenge so this one we just get you know and the us is kind of
00:28:38.700prodding us yeah so this is one where americans are sort of saying okay you got to unravel this
00:28:43.580now you know because they're the ones who did the arrest they're tying they're making all the ties
00:28:48.300in and they're releasing so this is one where quite frankly we're in a little bit of an uh we
00:28:53.500the police force is in a little bit of an odd situation because the americans just keep
00:28:58.620disclosing more and more and we're kind of stuck responding to why it happened instead of on our
00:29:05.260side instead of actually reporting it we're bringing it forth ourself no no it's unraveling
00:29:11.020it's unraveling from south of the border that's why they're calling it project south and it's
00:29:15.100actually hitting here and we're seeing the outcome of it uh every week we have at least one wackadoodle
00:29:21.740story uh isaiah adams thank you for providing this week's uh nfl uh i guess uh pro football
00:29:30.940player for the cardinals isaiah adams offensive lineman actually i'm not i'm not a football guy
00:29:37.260is he kind of a big deal yeah he's a really big deal um young player you know signed a rookie
00:29:43.260contract uh 1.3 million a year four-year deal so it's roughly you know a 6 million 5.9 million dollar
00:29:50.620deal um you know so he's doing okay bright future ahead of him how old is he young guy 25 25 uh
00:29:57.980caught with uh you know a family member it is i assume from the what said but the the kind of odd
00:30:05.260part of it uh when they actually they found three kilograms of fentanyl um in the vehicle that he
00:30:12.700was in in the vehicle he's in they go back and search the house that he's staying at or living
00:30:18.620at and they find a uh oversized uh uh cartridge for uh any uh stolen weapon from georgia and they
00:30:30.140find an uzi like a news you know not many people who's looking for trouble out here not many people
00:30:37.260in pickering or i think it was pickering not many people in pickering you know have to arm themselves
00:30:43.500with an uzi so it's a kind of an odd story he is back at training camp in the u.s which leads you
00:30:49.740to believe maybe they have sort of cleared him on this or i don't know what his lawyer said yeah
00:30:55.500he had nothing to do with it i don't know but it's a very odd one for the week when you saw it you're
00:30:59.260like wow why would anyone you know for the kids at home right those are the ones you know i always
00:31:05.500have that conversation you know my son i say to him you know hey if you suspect something weird
00:31:12.220the best thing is to no and you know i used to you know it's kind of funny and that's advice i
00:31:18.140got from my dad but but you know i always used to use it if i went to a party and i had a funny
00:31:22.860inkling if something was not right i would just go home right you know what i mean like so if
00:31:27.820something caught me funny like someone did something or someone was off or something was
00:31:33.420i would just in those days we used to have a lot of house parties so i would just vacate
00:31:37.020and people would say well you just dropped by and i said yeah you know i took a rain check tonight
00:31:42.620i'll see you another night right you know and they call me the next day i would just go hey
00:31:47.100man you're not gonna believe what happened last night such and such went through the coffee table
00:31:50.700yeah i'm glad i left two hours earlier right that note isaiah adams instincts may not be good i have
00:31:56.620a feeling he just got his family or whomever it is that's around him uh here in canada was up to
00:32:04.540something and he got dragged in by the sounds of it i hope that he's he's free and clear um but you
00:32:12.520know and here's another note to the kids if if you're making that kind of money and uh you got
00:32:18.460people back home who are involved in something just stay with your money where you're making it
00:32:23.840and get on with your life well yeah so here's the thing right you got you know football we're talking
00:32:30.140football now you have a limited career yeah right you gotta so i sure did no no no but you got to
00:32:36.860commit yourself to the period that you're going to play yeah so you got to say okay you know i'm
00:32:40.780going to stay clean and above board for the period if from 24 until i my brain can't take it anymore
00:32:48.70027. let's say you get four years in right maybe five i think the average lifespan is not even five
00:32:54.220of a career of a of an nfl player but let's say you know you you commit yourself to five years
00:32:59.180so i said next five years and then after that i can determine what i want to do for a living
00:33:03.740whether you know i want to do something untoward or whether i just want to go and have a nice family
00:33:07.980that's up to you right with that period of time that period of time you got enough money you can
00:33:13.580this is always my thing you can pay for a driver so you can have a few drinks you can pay for some
00:33:18.860security when you need it you can pay for your own home condo or townhouse right you don't really
00:33:24.780need and quite frankly as far as friends go uh when you're making that kind of money in the nfl
00:33:30.540you got to pick really listen be choosy yeah right frankly uh you're kind of on your own
00:33:36.380like you know for those five years you're depending on yourself you're not really you
00:33:39.980you can't the hanger-ons you got to be careful about because quite frankly those are the ones
00:33:44.380that kind of take you down i agree you got to relax have your career the benefits to having a
00:33:51.020nice clean career and that's where they you know they have mentorship programs for the nfl players
00:33:56.300now i think they're wonderful where guys come in and talk about mistakes they made yeah but you
00:34:01.180know um i was lucky enough in my lifetime to meet lots of lots of nfl players some good some bad
00:34:08.860and you know i i did a big project in baltimore and i met a bunch of interesting football players
00:34:15.740some good some bad uh you know and quite frankly you know you got to be very choosy because
00:34:22.940you don't know where they come from and what they're into and life in different jurisdictions
00:34:27.500especially in the united states is very complicated they uh they tend to just look out for each other
00:34:31.900as well uh and they got they're big guys with big money they can do big mistakes pretty quick
00:34:38.060yeah and they get away with a lot of stuff that is your crime report that is paul micucci i'm mike
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