True Patriot Love - July 18, 2026


TPL On The Road: The Montreal Fashion Industry


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Today on True Patriot Love, I m lucky enough to be on the East Coast Road Tour now in Montreal with Oliver Chernaschik. We talk about growing up in the 60s and 70s in Montreal, his love for the city, and what it s like to grow up in a cultural melting pot.

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00:00:00.000 today on true patriot love i'm lucky enough to be on the east coast road tour now in montreal
00:00:11.360 and i'm with oliver sury chernaschik and i hope i said the name you didn't need thank you thank you
00:00:17.040 i had a little background right so i always love to talk about people's background because
00:00:23.200 me being italian and quite frankly having a scottish mother and italian father
00:00:27.680 Mm-hmm.
00:00:28.980 Indian father.
00:00:30.280 Indian father, English father, Indian and English father,
00:00:33.280 and Slovak mother. 0.59
00:00:34.580 Oh, okay, yeah.
00:00:35.880 Well, that's, and that's what, you know, makes our cultures great,
00:00:39.120 because we actually come here, and we meet each other,
00:00:41.580 and just like my parents did, you know,
00:00:43.940 you create more stronger, creative children,
00:00:46.680 and that's a terrific thing.
00:00:49.180 So Montreal, we're here.
00:00:50.680 We made it, finally.
00:00:52.180 We got through Kingston.
00:00:53.480 We went to Ottawa through all the challenges, technically,
00:00:56.880 and everything else we got here, but we're here.
00:00:59.320 And we were looking forward to meeting with you
00:01:01.120 because when Montreal came up in our discussions,
00:01:04.780 and we have, I mentioned to you,
00:01:06.800 True Patriot Love has nine pillars in it.
00:01:09.240 We handle economy, politics, housing, healthcare,
00:01:13.480 and happiness.
00:01:14.520 So when we came to the summer, we said,
00:01:16.240 you know, we're gonna do more shows,
00:01:18.020 and more shows about stuff that makes people happy,
00:01:21.120 and of course, fashion.
00:01:22.600 And I know as a kid, my fond memories of Montreal
00:01:26.720 were coming to Montreal with my mom.
00:01:29.780 So we would go down, my mom was this fashionista,
00:01:33.180 you know, she really was.
00:01:34.680 I got to, you know, God love her soul.
00:01:36.940 We would, every season she would go out
00:01:40.020 and she'd buy three new outfits.
00:01:42.040 And, you know, she'd buy like spring, summer, fall,
00:01:45.540 you know, in that generation, right?
00:01:47.860 And when my mom went back to work,
00:01:49.680 she went back to work and she wore a tie,
00:01:53.360 which was kind of cool for a woman of that era, right?
00:01:55.520 You know, worked at A&P, but she would put us on the train.
00:01:59.420 She liked to travel, and my dad worked six days a week.
00:02:02.460 He was a hardworking guy, so he wouldn't come with us.
00:02:06.080 And we would come to Montreal, get off the train,
00:02:08.720 and we would go to Taylor's, right?
00:02:12.020 Like bespoke Taylor's.
00:02:14.180 Yeah, yeah, and we would have our clothes made.
00:02:16.720 In those days, we'd even get our shoes.
00:02:19.780 So we'd have our feet fitted, and we'd have shoes made.
00:02:23.920 It was a cool experience, and we would eat like crazy.
00:02:27.960 We'd stay in a hotel, eat, you know, get fitted for the day,
00:02:31.320 and then, quite frankly, catch the next train late the next day
00:02:34.780 after we go around the city and shop and have fun and eat in great restaurants.
00:02:40.220 So, you know, coming back was near and dear to my heart
00:02:42.720 because of what I remember about that memory.
00:02:44.980 So how do you get into this?
00:02:47.080 So I'm thinking about my childhood, and then I'm thinking I met you, you know,
00:02:50.440 and I'm thinking it's a pretty cool environment.
00:02:52.980 so tell me like yeah yeah what brought you here well i mean i'm born in kitchen in ontario but i
00:03:00.500 grew up in montreal um been here pretty much all my life what brings me to fashion itself i'm
00:03:08.700 guessing you're asking um i've always been a creative kid drew a lot when i was young
00:03:16.380 and always had I would say an interest for how how to present myself but also how to present
00:03:25.320 others and so eventually that sort of young creativity developed into more of a of an interest
00:03:34.860 as to how clothing can really come to be a means to express oneself yeah and
00:03:42.720 And I'm a COVID baby, so I started sewing.
00:03:49.840 My grandmother taught me how to sew at the start of COVID.
00:03:52.980 And since then, it's been through my own projects.
00:03:56.460 It's been through some internships, some work contracts.
00:04:01.140 And yeah, that's what sort of got me here.
00:04:03.820 Yeah.
00:04:04.340 Okay, the name of your company, right?
00:04:06.080 OSC is what I first got.
00:04:07.620 OSC is my namesake clothing label.
00:04:10.180 Yeah.
00:04:10.400 After my initials. And Untold Cowboy is a collective exhibition project.
00:04:18.660 Oh, okay. Collective exhibition. Give me more.
00:04:22.120 So Untold Cowboy is a series of multidisciplinary visual productions that are dedicated to creating eclectic cowboy characters
00:04:34.920 that challenge the myth of the heroic, glamorized American cowboy
00:04:42.160 and creatively reclaim and reimagine the omitted history
00:04:47.580 of black and indigenous cowboys in Canada.
00:04:50.420 Oh, cool.
00:04:51.380 Well, that's interesting.
00:04:52.760 Yeah.
00:04:53.500 Well, you know, and one day, you know, another show on that one,
00:04:57.280 for sure, because I like to hear, you know,
00:04:59.540 I spent a lot of time, I think, another show that I did recently
00:05:03.300 was with a farmer. I'm heading out, you know, to PEI. So I have a potato farm, a family of potato
00:05:09.700 farmers owned a farm earlier in my life quite a few times. We used to go camping there as a
00:05:16.340 when I was young. Yeah. Oh, nice. The red sand. Yeah, it's beautiful. So what is like this place
00:05:22.420 where we're at today? So we're pretty cool. We're sitting in the sort of exhibit room of Atelier
00:05:29.140 Textile, which is a textile printing and dyeing school that has a partnership with my own studio,
00:05:40.340 which is Ligne de Fuite. So Ligne de Fuite is a Montreal based fashion talent incubator. So they
00:05:48.340 host quite a few young emerging designers in their space. They also do lots of events,
00:05:54.100 They produce runway shows. But both of our spaces, Atelier Textile and Ling de Fut,
00:06:00.340 have a partnership, a collaboration agreement, if you will. So we sort of exchange services,
00:06:06.900 use the space, vice versa. So while Ling de Fut is really based around fashion, garments, making,
00:06:14.660 sewing. Atelier Textile, on the other hand, is focused on textile art, so dyeing, printing, etc.
00:06:24.660 Oh, good combination, right? Exactly. It's a rare one. I think we're one of the very few,
00:06:32.980 definitely in Montreal, perhaps in Canada as well, that have this sort of dynamic going on between
00:06:39.780 garments and textile so kitchener right which i know well because uh you know from ontario
00:06:48.260 grew up there so you make it to montreal i make it yeah my parents my parents studied
00:06:54.740 architecture in waterloo had me flew to europe for a couple years to move to montreal oh okay
00:07:03.540 all right and so you grew up in montreal went to school here yep right and then you decided
00:07:08.580 to get into fashion and then off you go so help me out here so you get into fashion you decide
00:07:14.660 how do you figure out kind of what part of fashion you want to enter into because that seems to me
00:07:20.180 always to be the most complicated thing right how do you how do you figure that what like it's it's
00:07:25.060 a good question because it comes i can only speak from my own experience but it comes from a very
00:07:30.580 sort of or develops in a very organic way right there's an interest at the start that that grows
00:07:37.780 into a passion and grows then into a need and then grows into a means to something right
00:07:44.860 fashion now has become a means for me to um to keep developing my craft um but in terms of how
00:07:54.600 what areas of fashion um there are so many but since i my context is one that's outside of school
00:08:03.140 right I'm self-taught so I didn't go to fashion school I really had to to figure it out on the go
00:08:12.400 so it started as my first fashion experience if you will was as a pattern cutter in the in
00:08:19.840 for a brand in the garment district then once that settled it was really through developing
00:08:27.340 my own projects and so my and i'm i'm you know a emerging designer that has a label and a project
00:08:35.760 going on so and there it's a saturated market the one i'm the one i operate in um but fashion has so
00:08:43.760 many different facets there's a creative side there's a designer side there's a very technical
00:08:49.720 side, there's also, it's a business in itself, right? So, you can, it's a huge, huge global
00:08:58.100 industry and I operate as a very small prism of that. Yeah, no, no, and I love the story because
00:09:06.160 quite frankly, so I tell it similar probably age to what you are now. I started basically building
00:09:14.700 homes um and i i started kind of from the ground up from foundations and basically from there i
00:09:21.820 learned carpentry and from there i learned so now you know just before covet hit uh we were building
00:09:28.380 homes uh and and it was great right because over time i just from without any traditional
00:09:36.060 education i wasn't trained as a project manager didn't become a red seal carpenter you know but
00:09:42.700 but i did a little bit of everything as my my family was in that uh that business so
00:09:49.900 then i learned it when you so when you talking about starting out and being a pattern cutter
00:09:54.620 i love that right because you're right there you know you're learning the trade hands-on
00:09:59.420 and then you get into it. So, hey, before I forget, behind you.