00:04:29.760So, you know, it could have been even one of those lunch events where you pay a little money or in this case, probably a lot of money to come in.
00:04:37.940He's got enough money in his political war chest that he's amassed.
00:18:47.060And he takes a departure to do something that we can't really identify as a little nebulous and doesn't feel like it accomplishes anything.
00:18:53.680I think right now especially right now like you point out those messages that he is constant with
00:19:01.200need to be amplified and expanded on here at home right maybe a trip across Canada would be a better
00:19:08.000opportunity for Pierre Polyev at this moment oh yeah well I've said that for both leaders right
00:19:12.980you know quite frankly we're you know the one uh our prime minister didn't even show up to talk
00:19:19.560about the debate in the iran war you know he was missing in action he was still traveling and quite
00:19:26.100frankly now pierre has you know done his duty his duty in the house and he's off going to texas
00:19:34.420yeah we hear he might be on the rogan show yeah so once again pierre you know we have a podcast
00:19:40.000studio too you can come work out if you want well uh well yeah you know and that's interesting you
00:19:45.680know to see what evolves from that now i don't know if that would be a good idea or a bad idea
00:19:49.980my that's a tough one right and whether you would want to take the risk right now and go down and do
00:19:58.260a uh very popular american podcast yeah and how that comes out and because it you know uh his
00:20:10.200shows quite frankly he's not very positive on canada right now no he's very negative about the
00:20:15.160liberals in Canada and calling us socialists and stuff like that so either Pierre comes off
00:20:20.600anti-Canadian yeah which isn't helping him anymore because he's been kind of always compared to a
00:20:27.320Trump character so how does that really help you know I don't whoever's doing his PR I think they
00:20:32.540have to really think through how you spin that my guess is and if I had to guess why he's there
00:20:37.720quite frankly because I don't know if there's we're not hearing there's a club or a group he's
00:20:42.680speaking with no it's just he's just down there for meetings yeah right which if you think about
00:20:47.860it all of our oil and gas companies are headquartered you mentioned that earlier
00:20:51.900are headquartered in texas right yeah so quite frankly he's probably there to meet the head
00:20:57.080offices of the oil and gas guys who most likely are big conservative contributors
00:21:02.780so he's down there kind of you know explaining what's going on probably talking to them about
00:21:09.820opportunities if there are any kind of doing a think tank with them to try to figure out
00:21:15.180if they can do anything to expand oil and gas production in case the you know the war goes on
00:21:21.420in iran longer who knows but but sorry the leader of the opposition is going to take care of that
00:21:27.020for us no i don't i probably honestly if the question you'd have to ask him is you know who
00:21:34.940asked him to go did they want him to come down and have a conversation or is he just going down to
00:21:40.620you know try to entice some conversation and do more fundraising probably and it's my guess is
00:21:46.140it's more of a fundraising mission yeah i think that they're trying they're trying to position
00:21:49.580him as an international uh internationally known figure which he is not um and getting introduced
00:21:57.820around the world but really that's three three places but again but again the kind of the weird
00:22:03.900part is you know you come back from germany and where do you go you go to texas like who goes to
00:22:10.140texas like quite frankly so you go to washington you go to new york on the east coast you know you
00:22:15.820probably head into california you know maybe texas i don't know you know i spent time i i
00:22:22.940built properties in oklahoma i built properties in texas too but quite frankly it's not somewhere i
00:22:28.860would say wow you know the first place i go in america is texas as a political no no no not at
00:22:34.620all well it's got kind of backward politically it's a little bit you know it's i was going to
00:22:38.940say it really does paint him as a super mega conservative i think in a lot of ways 100 100
00:22:45.820right it's the home you know and i'm not sure that's the look i would be going for right off
00:22:51.180the hop you know now you to your point you might throw in a podcast and maybe that gets everyone
00:22:56.860just oh you know it was an exposure trip but i don't know what what benefits do you get out of
00:23:02.620american podcasting back into canada well my last point was this whole thing just looks like
00:23:07.420political theater so i'm tired of that frankly yeah oh yeah like be here doing something here
00:23:16.220to show canadians put your hand in the hands of canadians humanize a little more find platforms
00:23:21.980in canada where you can actually get voters behind you you know it's interesting so you know i keep
00:23:27.420bringing it up 110 days to july 1st yep so the kuzma is fast approaching what i would be doing
00:23:34.300now is i would be if i was in his shoes and i had all my ministers and all my people around the
00:23:38.780table i would almost produce a uh what if uh plan so i would literally uh you know create a book
00:23:48.220a document and say here's the three scenarios that i how i would react if number one uh terrorists
00:23:56.220which we just got tariff news today right the media was jumping all over the fact that you know
00:24:01.260it might be some relief for canadian tariffs i don't think the news we got today says that it
00:24:06.700might actually stick kuzma for another year yeah well up until july right so they might extend it
00:24:13.900this might create the extension until they can figure out how to tariff us yeah exactly yeah
00:24:18.620that's that's a good point but but i but you know my my thinking on is i would sit down and i'd be
00:24:24.300developing almost a uh parallel budget that i would drop it's a good idea yeah because you you
00:24:31.580know quite frankly you're not spending any time on by elections so you've kind of conceded that
00:24:36.620you you know you're you you know the based on the fact that you basically i don't know how much time
00:24:42.460you spent picking the candidates to run in those writings i guess you did not long enough to
00:24:48.860convince them to stay you were in the uk you're in germany when it was all happening you dropped
00:24:53.100the by-election now you're going to texas like maybe you were thinking about it before maybe
00:24:57.020your group your strategy team has already picked them so you're okay but you know you're not right
00:25:03.740now doing a lot to help them so quite frankly it is what it is right so you've kind of conceded
00:25:09.820whatever happens there right you know it doesn't look quite frankly in quebec or ontario that you
00:25:15.020are in very good shape to win those so and they only need two more seats to get majority so maybe
00:25:21.980you've kind of chalked that one up right so now if i'm interested what i would be doing now is
00:25:27.100i'd be doing kind of a budget strategy paper of what i would do after july 1st if the world starts
00:25:33.660to unravel so you know right now mexico is already in discussions on uh kuzma with the americans
00:25:41.980bilaterally this is a really good idea you have because if he traveled across the country with
00:25:46.620the book in his hand yeah who's the last guy to do that oh uh malroney was money kertian did it
00:25:55.100the red book yeah no but i would yeah the blue book the red book but you know honestly i i would
00:26:01.580be traveling across the country and now and saying here's here's a plan for your province
00:26:06.700and here's how you fit into the whole picture wow and here's what we're going to do because each
00:26:10.780each province has unique issues yeah that's true this is how we're going to fund them you know
00:26:16.380yeah we we tend to think that think this is like a secret formula that we don't know
00:26:22.380we know the populations we know the demographic we know the industries in each of the provinces
00:26:28.140we know all these things that's a really good point like putting the plan together for each of
00:26:34.220them is not a really tricky thing to do and then and then an overall book that show a chapter in
00:26:41.240this book that shows how this gets integrated another chapter another section that talks about
00:26:47.100how that works internationally yeah no i really think that traveling is probably not the best
00:26:53.200idea for pierre paliev if i was to be honest with you and i think that it's with the money that they
00:26:58.600have right now they need to put it to work right on the ground boots on the ground getting the
00:27:04.840right people lined up getting the right faces ready for these by elections and getting control
00:27:10.960of the party well how about i got one for you just just to think about how about a retreat
00:27:16.460you've had you've had members leave you've kind of why not why not just go away for a little while
00:27:24.040put that strategy paper together try to get everyone back on the same page get everyone
00:27:28.780involved so quite frankly you get a team effort going forward you get some you know lighten up
00:27:34.700your central control and get some ministers involved so they feel like they're part of a
00:27:38.880solution build a team right get get them going again and quite frankly get them motivated to
00:27:45.760be back in the field there's general ministers that have exact uh information and exact planning
00:27:52.360of our federal government because they're there on the on the back bench having said that
00:27:57.800you're right they should be called to the floor we need i think this is one of the things that
00:28:03.640if i was you know one of the conservative party planners would be to put some faces out there
00:28:10.500that aren't just pierre pollios i would be getting some faces out there that are showing
00:28:14.800who they are in the community why they're viable why they were a good choice to run in that riding
00:28:20.120and what they could be doing for our our nation and parliament but we we really do have the lens
00:28:26.240focused on one guy well we really do and then he loves it quite frankly he's loving it and you know
00:28:32.240from from when he ran last time for during the election he wants the blue sign with his name on
00:28:39.240it all over yeah right so you never really knew who you were voting for locally you never got to
00:28:46.400know them you never built in uh sort of an uh an adoration for that person in your community as a
00:28:53.180as a person you'd vote for it's interesting but in my writing i missed somebody that i didn't even
00:29:01.040know was running oh really yeah i saw the pier signs and and how to miss on who was running and
00:29:07.720and the individual that was running in my riding was a good choice yeah people love her there would
00:29:15.800have been no question in their mind that's who they wanted but if they liked her and didn't care
00:29:20.920for pierre that vote was lost yeah so at the local level i think that there needs to be
00:29:28.680it doesn't need to be autonomy but there should be some personality development across the country
00:29:34.760that says hi i'm mike i'm a conservative don't clip that uh hi i'm paul i'm a conservative and
00:29:42.440i do this in the community and i do that and da da da da yeah that's my that that's what i would
00:29:48.600do to put a face on the party at the moment and i would not worry so much about the and put the
00:29:54.460leader up beside these people or are you just going to get six more people walk across tomorrow
00:30:00.320you know you definition of insanity right you know the same thing yeah you keep doing the same
00:30:06.940thing we keep doing result he keeps doing the same thing he's now going internationally trying
00:30:12.160to get his name out by himself not traveling with anyone it's all the same mo it's all the same
00:30:20.740stuff and quite frankly one brand pierre one brand and one brand and one brand that fails
00:30:26.740with a population over 65 time and time again fails with females in canada internationally
00:30:34.580doesn't have any name recognition can that work no i think the work needs to be done here boots
00:30:40.820on the ground with a plan thanks paul patriotic means looking out for each other and fixing things
00:30:54.980together true patriotism is being in the country you love surrounded by people you love and great
00:31:01.140weather being a patriot is being a part of your community and caring for it it doesn't matter who
00:31:05.380you are or where you're from patriotism is the one thing we all share it's okay to be critical
00:31:11.460of government and still be a patriot it's gratitude to your country of course i'm a patriot i'm