True Patriot Love - April 08, 2026


Trump Blinks on Iran as Fallout Hits Markets


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Join us as we unravel what s going on in the Middle East and the world at large as we unpack the latest in the ongoing saga of Donald Trump and Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamezadeh.

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00:00:00.000 well we are not in the studio and that's because so much is happening right now uh in the world
00:00:10.320 certainly in the middle east as uh donald trump and uh iran have taken a step back from each other
00:00:17.840 uh through a uh looks like a a brokered deal through pakistan which has put on hold the uh
00:00:26.400 shock and awe that donald trump promised just this morning in some of the most incredibly uh
00:00:32.880 non-diplomatic terms i think the world has seen ever uh joining me paul micucci jim lang
00:00:38.960 and brady wedham as we unravel what's going on in the middle east tonight
00:00:46.160 well i gotta tell you i i this is taco i mean we were joking about it earlier trump always
00:00:53.920 chickens out it's gone viral on social media i mean he had a deadline back on march 23rd
00:01:00.320 and after some of the most vitriolic profane uh most beyond the pale social media post over
00:01:08.240 the last few days basically threatening to annihilate the entire iranian people off the
00:01:13.520 face of the earth he all of a sudden out of nowhere drops this two-week pause and the price
00:01:20.560 of oil is going down like 18 a barrel how about that yeah hey guys so it's interesting i just uh
00:01:28.320 just pulled up true social so um trump gets on and he says the alleged statement put on by cnn
00:01:36.160 world news is a fraud as cnn well knows the false statement was linked to a fake news site
00:01:43.200 from nigeria and of course immediately picked up by cnn and blared out as a legitimate headline
00:01:50.000 the official statement by iran was just released and posted on true social below
00:01:55.360 authorities are looking to determine whether or not the crime was committed on the issuance of
00:02:00.080 a fake cnn world statement or was in uh was it a sick a rogue player cnn is being ordered to
00:02:08.080 immediately withdraw the statement from full and with full apologies from their as usual terrible
00:02:14.960 reporting results of the investigation will be announced in the near future so you know right
00:02:20.720 away cnn came out and said iran claims victory says it forced to accept 10 point plan um and
00:02:28.560 then trump is now saying you know no that's not the case yeah interesting wow so he's fighting
00:02:36.480 you know he's fighting at home and he's been fighting all day jim and mike and brady you know
00:02:42.240 tucker carlson as we talked about a day ago he's just been going uh bananas and trump and him of
00:02:48.960 going back and forth uh trump went as far as in the new york post to call uh tucker a low
00:02:55.920 iq person who didn't know anything uh and was not in the know pecker coming out uh going at him for
00:03:02.560 his easter day post his profanity um you know even went as far to ask people around trump to watch it
00:03:09.840 he didn't uh press the button uh criticize him for not putting his hand on the bottle during
00:03:16.240 inauguration there's a bunch of stuff you know uh he accused him of war crimes paul he did he
00:03:22.800 accused him of war crimes and he asked christians to remove which it's a comment i made a day before
00:03:28.320 uh tucker came out i talked to mike and you on the show jim and i said listen yeah you're looking
00:03:33.520 at it from a christian perspective you know trump's not tucker came out and said there's
00:03:38.720 no way he's a christian he's not acting like a christian uh take your sport away if you're a
00:03:44.720 christian even went so far as to actually talk to say that um the school bombing um might not have
00:03:52.000 been by accident like really really scathing stuff to be going back and forth between what
00:03:57.920 is considered a true supporter of the uh republican party uh and you know a big supporter in the past
00:04:06.480 but it seems to have lost it and you know the podcasting world just left him left you know
00:04:13.120 megan kelly uh joe rogan tim dylan um and even now yeah yeah yeah and then alex jones on monday
00:04:26.400 was asking for the 25th amendment yeah so to be exercised so this is i think this is the big issue
00:04:34.720 paul is it's one thing for have carney macron starmer and all the world leaders say like i'm
00:04:42.000 done with them but he always thought i think he had his core right-wing alt-right podcasters
00:04:49.600 who have a huge influence on america and the american public would always have his back
00:04:54.560 now he's lost them so what does he have he he doesn't have much first thing you don't have to
00:05:01.440 agree with tucker or agree with him to realize that the statement of saying that he's not intelligent 0.55
00:05:08.000 is stupid that's a very unintelligent oh yeah no yeah tucker carlson whether you agree with
00:05:14.560 him or not is a highly intelligent human being and that's why he's in the position that he's in
00:05:18.480 it's not just blind following um what trump is doing and what anyone else that supports this
00:05:25.840 is doing is very unchristian like now whether you believe in christianity or you follow the
00:05:30.480 morals of christianity that's on you to come up with your own assumptions and your own conclusions
00:05:35.520 but realistically if we're using what tucker is saying that this isn't christian he is 100 right
00:05:40.240 and trump claims that he's a christian he did this even on his campaign one i'm going to end wars and
00:05:46.080 i'm not going to start wars two i'm i need to get into heaven i think that ship has sailed brady
00:05:53.280 i think that ship is tailed well you know guys it's really interesting because uh a couple of
00:05:59.640 things have disturbed me to no end about this that maybe are bothering you as well uh it's the
00:06:05.160 economic end of it i mean uh today you're seeing people create human chains around uh you know
00:06:11.860 prominent uh and and sensitive areas in iran uh spoke volumes uh about uh what the humanity is
00:06:20.000 this and we can talk about that for certain but the one thing uh that i think keeps coming up is
00:06:26.320 the impact that this has had on the global economy and uh you know just the stability of certain
00:06:33.440 nations alongside um you know the impact of the lies you know it is really hard to get behind a
00:06:43.520 guy who says this war ends when you open the strait of her moves it was open before you
00:06:50.720 bombed the place what the hell are you talking about and the second thing that i will say is
00:06:57.440 uh i read this about what happened in in the 24 hours that uh trump was swinging it around out
00:07:04.080 there and uh saying some pretty wild things uh i don't know if you guys saw this i kind of mentioned
00:07:09.840 it to you before the show but i found it really disturbing how much had gone on in the last 24
00:07:16.480 hours apparently since trump made the announcement 24 hours leading up to the deadline uh that trump
00:07:24.320 put in place iran hit uh major industry industrial cities in saudi arabia the largest petrochemical
00:07:33.440 complex on earth uh the zone that produces 60 million tons of petrochemicals a year six to
00:07:39.920 eight percent of everything the world manufactures was blown up uh sabic the fourth largest petro
00:07:47.840 chemical manufacturer on earth is on fire right now dow chemicals uh uh sadara complex 29 production
00:07:56.240 units in total already suspended production like weeks ago and now saudi uh uh saudi aramco
00:08:05.360 paid 70 billion dollars for their stake in sabic and that investment literally burning up right
00:08:13.520 now so the economy that got hit here and the refineries and the petrochemical areas that are
00:08:21.760 the fall out of all of this have no real direct effect on america but in certain states around
00:08:29.440 them major things happened in the last 24 hours as a result of this deadline yeah so iran
00:08:37.120 getting harder than i think trump wants to admit and consider this gentleman so say this all goes
00:08:43.920 away and everyone goes back to their respective corners i see no appetite for the american people
00:08:50.880 for any american military to go back there they're like let's just stay away from that place let's
00:08:56.240 keep the straighter hormones open and because if they were going to do this to actually get proper
00:09:02.960 regime change and boots on the ground the amount of bloodshed and casualties the american public
00:09:07.920 have no stomach for that and the american economy does i think it would cause massive damage i think
00:09:14.640 this is it they thought they could get a quick victory in a few days they blew it they were
00:09:20.000 wrong they suffered big casualties lost a lot of very very expensive sometimes irreplaceable
00:09:26.100 equipment and trump is ending up with egg in his face and the whole thing with hegsys and the
00:09:31.600 generals will be talked about for years i'm going to be honest with you guys i didn't expect the
00:09:38.120 taco i expected that uh we would start to see some pretty heavy uh bombing tonight because
00:09:44.820 uh i don't think uh in my mind it didn't seem feasible that trump wanted to lose face over this
00:09:51.640 uh even though so much of the world was leaning against him on it uh denying him access in their
00:09:57.720 airspace um i still well i will say this by quickly someone must have got to him because
00:10:03.440 one of the flight trackers i monitor the b-52s were over the mediterranean and turned around
00:10:10.380 headed back to the base in england so the leader of pakistan there he stepped in he pleaded with
00:10:16.380 trump earlier this afternoon when we were all still in office wrapping up at the studio and by
00:10:20.620 the time i had gotten back to my place a couple hours outside of the city um they had referenced
00:10:25.660 that this was probably the leader of pakistan so give it up to pakistan for yeah if that's the
00:10:32.300 truth um for stopping this well because the b-52s you could see them all like a whole squadron of
00:10:39.100 them turning around heading back to england like so something was going to happen yeah unfortunately
00:10:44.860 so yeah if this all plays out that pakistan played that role good on them good on them yeah if that's
00:10:51.340 true good on them paul well you know it's interesting and you're just talking about the
00:10:57.020 impacts you know the impacts that are happening now and mike was alluding to some of the things
00:11:01.900 going on and the other golf dates but you know this 10-point plan is really surrounding
00:11:08.460 uh the discussion about it a lot of it is about how to pay for the damage they did i i found it
00:11:14.140 interesting that the key initiative in in the 10-point plan is actually talking about a two
00:11:20.380 million dollar fee per ship and that two million dollar fee is going to go into a fund then that
00:11:26.700 fund is going to be used for the reconstruction of all the things that were damaged the infrastructure
00:11:31.900 and the buildings and everything that went on so you know we just spent you know all these days
00:11:38.300 destroying all this infrastructure buildings all this stuff people dying and quite frankly the thing
00:11:44.860 they're negotiating now is how to put it back together which i think you know again is is the
00:11:50.860 ships turn around and they go back to the us and everyone goes back into their corners and everything
00:11:56.060 sort of hopefully calms down you know everyone lifts their sanctions and stops bombing each
00:12:02.380 other and stops the strikes the rebuilding and the actual impacts on the economies will still
00:12:08.540 sustain they'll still happen now you know and that's the challenge the high-tech industry
00:12:14.760 which i know you know it's kind of odd right now you look at the the markets and jim and i were
00:12:20.480 talking bray and i were talking before the show got on you know the the dow leapt 900 points after
00:12:25.940 the announcement uh the nasdaq uh the s p 500 all up to over two percent right away and jim was
00:12:35.380 mentioning a barrel of oil went down 15 percent yeah like like like that okay so paul you you see
00:12:44.900 in just saudi in saudi alone uh their investments uh over a hundred billion dollars went up in 24
00:12:53.620 hours meanwhile we see trump obviously playing the rise and fall of the stock market that he can
00:13:01.060 control with a press release it's a little frustrating and to the point of a million uh
00:13:06.980 two million dollars per ship going through an estimated two trillion dollars damage has been
00:13:12.420 done in the process uh and losses in years to come on oil unable to be uh processed and shipped
00:13:20.980 that's a million shifts through the strait of her moves before they're back and even i don't see how
00:13:28.100 that's going to happen but you know what it's interesting mike you know and this was a tucker
00:13:33.780 carlson comment uh earlier this week and you know his comment was you're going to take a lot of money
00:13:39.460 out of the economy that was coming from these states so you're going to take it and it's not
00:13:43.300 going to go primarily into the high-tech industries that were going into america so you know this is
00:13:49.380 where it's going to be you know americans think that you know their gas prices are going to go
00:13:53.380 down we think that you know everything's going to go back to normal it's not going to go back
00:13:57.220 to normal this is going to have a shock wave through the economies that's yet to come and i
00:14:01.860 think whoever's just trying to game this uh the markets right now make a few bucks is just doing
00:14:07.540 that they're gaming it they're day trading it and very frankly what we're going to see next is the
00:14:13.140 the real fallout of this and that's unfortunate because that's what's going to you know cause us
00:14:18.660 all uh to have to do and rethink what's happening in the western hemisphere and you know earlier on
00:14:24.580 we talked about it on our show that's kind of the reality we're in right now you know we're we're
00:14:30.020 we've uh it's a better outcome but it does have impacts and quite frankly who's who going forward
00:14:37.140 is really going to take any more of these threats that seriously probably it's not going to be hard
00:14:42.820 to find it really what's that but paul you raise a good point think about mark carney and all his
00:14:49.140 trips looking for investors from the middle east for these big infrastructure projects that he
00:14:55.060 hopes will rebuild the canadian economy if if qatar and dubai and saudi arabia have to rebuild their
00:15:02.260 own infrastructure they don't have money to get put invest in the canada do they well they have
00:15:08.260 all the money so there may be a bit to stretch out but i think you're right jim like they're
00:15:12.900 that that runs out real quick after a war well and brady and jim got you got to be thinking they got
00:15:20.100 to be at this point they're going to be thinking of ways to insulate themselves or from future
00:15:25.300 conflicts so if yeah one thing one thing all these conflicts teach us is that we we do learn
00:15:32.100 something unfortunately you know and when it comes to canada and what we've learned back in 1970 and
00:15:37.700 before that we don't seem to learn very quickly where our risks are and and you know they've just
00:15:43.380 firsthand learned that they were vulnerable to all these things so i i assume not only are they
00:15:48.500 going to rebuild they're going to rebuild to insulate themselves from anything or any of
00:15:52.260 these shock waves going forward you know this this straight issue that we look at the picture
00:15:57.060 you threw up in the on the uh on the screen brady it's absolutely bizarre to tell you the truth that
00:16:04.020 anyone would think that was a sustainable model and that didn't have risks associated with it i'm
00:16:10.580 sure they're all saying we're never going to be in this spot again so they're going to
00:16:14.500 rebuild pipelines they're going to rebuild infrastructure i'm sure they're thinking that
00:16:18.500 right now it's always been a dangerous spot even before this war you know they always had to worry
00:16:24.180 about pirates and such right in these yeah like it's always been it's as small as it looks and
00:16:29.140 even on the screen it is small in terms of bodies of water it's always been a problem but like mike
00:16:35.540 said at the beginning of the show it wasn't the problem they have now so i've heard four reasons
00:16:40.580 why this war is going on one regime change two um evil terrorists and nuclear missiles i guess
00:16:49.700 that's two and three and then four now that they had to open up this straight so what is the actual
00:16:54.580 reason why this war started that is still to be worked out and real quick i will say this
00:17:00.820 every naval expert in the world would be prepared to tell donald trump that you can't
00:17:07.220 win a war with the red unless you have the means to protect ships going in and out of the strait 0.56
00:17:12.660 of hormuz that's the key that's like trying to win back france in world war ii without going
00:17:19.300 to normandy you have to do it if you look at the land masses around where you need to pass
00:17:25.940 it's dangerous territory i mean if if you look at it from a western a good old western uh uh plot
00:17:35.140 that's like walking into uh the ambush yeah in an ambush it's it's uh to see that on a map
00:17:44.740 one of the things and paul you know i i wanted to ask you because uh i i know that you'll watch
00:17:51.460 the markets and you'll see what's going on here the fact that you think that there's going to be
00:17:55.780 reverberations on this on the economy what do you think the next move is for carney on this topic
00:18:03.700 yeah good question i think honestly you have to get your resource base in play it's almost
00:18:10.580 a nationalistic play you have to uh take a look at the resources you have to be an independent
00:18:16.660 nation and you have to start to figure out how to utilize them because you're not going to get
00:18:21.220 you're not definitely going to get funding um like we talked about from those states that are
00:18:26.580 trying to rebuild you know europe is in no better shape than we are right now as far as economies
00:18:31.620 they're they're carrying higher deficits higher debt loads than we are right now so you really
00:18:37.860 have to take a look at your resource base try to figure out a way to optimize it and that has to
00:18:42.740 where you have to regroup from a canadian perspective and you know you almost have to
00:18:47.620 i know we've deferred our budget now to the fall which in hindsight is a really good idea because
00:18:53.700 we're going to have to go back and figure out where the allocation of funds to to optimize
00:18:58.260 the capital spend for projects that are resource driven and we've we've talked about it on previous
00:19:03.940 shows but it sure as heck has come full circle to the point where um you know that discussion on
00:19:10.500 pipelines that discussion on lng that discussion on mining you know you were looking at it now you
00:19:16.580 know we're doing a show tomorrow which is interesting and i was just getting ready for it
00:19:20.180 before we jumped on this call lithium we only produce 2.6 of the amount of lithium in the world
00:19:26.740 so and that lithium is coming from china it's coming from australia it's coming from chile
00:19:32.020 with these trade routes and everything going on in the world now we're at risk in our i know we
00:19:37.140 wanted to be all battery operated i thought quite frankly when i got into the show we produced a lot
00:19:42.580 more lithium so that's shocking to me i i yeah i really thought that that was a boon for us
00:19:50.820 that we might be able to take advantage of but you know paul you raise a good point
00:19:54.420 and sorry jim i i no no please mike i think that if you take a look at it from a nationalistic
00:20:00.580 effort, that's an opportunity for Carney at the moment. It gives him the opportunity to say,
00:20:07.200 okay, we have to make some changes to how we handle resources, to how quickly we push together
00:20:14.880 all of the appropriate passing of bills that, you know, all of the process and protocols to
00:20:22.600 get businesses going in certain industries and certain resources are quickly put into place
00:20:28.160 because we are trying to rebuild and get back to an affordable place on earth and that might be the
00:20:35.280 opportunity he has to say okay i got to put net zero aside okay we have to move uh closer to
00:20:41.520 getting industry moving i wonder if you think that'll happen well and this goes back to like
00:20:46.960 there was the announcement that they want to build a high-speed rail at 90 billion dollars and even
00:20:52.000 andrew coin from the gold nelson wait a second and pier poliev has a point we don't have the
00:20:57.640 money for that right now we need to spend that money on pipelines to bc and natural gas pipelines
00:21:04.540 to churchill and other things and with the economy in the world right now we don't have the luxury
00:21:09.240 spending 90 billion dollars on a high-speed rail that only goes 500 kilometers well i think i i
00:21:15.560 think that plan was put in place um before the world is was doing exactly what it's doing now
00:21:20.920 so hopefully that gets thrown out and pipelines start to get built well i don't think they have
00:21:25.800 a choice right paul no they don't have a choice i think that's the that's the discussion this
00:21:30.920 week that i think is going to have to take place in montreal is you know they're going to have to
00:21:34.600 come to grips with what they have to do it you know the other the other one that comes is the
00:21:39.240 full defense you know you look at this yeah just look at this from you know face value of what went
00:21:44.280 down in the in the last you know two months we've got to kind of recalibrate and say okay what are
00:21:50.360 we doing are we are we truly are we a standalone country do we want to have our own defense
00:21:56.120 you know that this has brought a lot of things to light with our with you know our neighbor and
00:22:00.920 quite frankly you know there's always a discussion about whether we co-mingle defense and all that
00:22:06.680 good stuff you know we might want to be on our own right now and have our own defenses in play and
00:22:11.880 and that's a discussion that we have to have like we have to start uh and that's where i think the
00:22:17.000 us is correct and i think the conversation about us either poning up or actually putting enough
00:22:22.200 money in it to sustain ourselves is a good conversation that you know as a mature country
00:22:28.120 we need to sit down and really look at ourselves and say okay you know we need we need tomorrow
00:22:35.640 300 000 men and women to be in the canadian armed forces we need to we need to man up or woman up or
00:22:43.080 person up to that conversation and say to the canadians there's got to be 300 000 of you step
00:22:49.720 up right now and volunteer to do this because that's what uh at the minimum that's what an
00:22:56.120 armed force has to look like to be at what the world needs and quite frankly i know that's a
00:23:02.120 tough conversation but that's that's where we're at right now and paul i i i couldn't agree more
00:23:08.120 but that this is the challenge for minister mcginty and mark carney is just having the
00:23:13.480 infrastructure to process that many new people to the military and equip them i mean that's where
00:23:19.880 all this new defense money a lot of that's just going to have to be basic training giving them
00:23:24.840 the trade in their specialty and the equipment they need to do that for that many new people
00:23:31.640 a post-war effort right at this point sorry brady this is a post-war effort at this point
00:23:37.400 accommodations are going to have to be made budget budgetary yes we can't spend 90 billion
00:23:43.560 here we need to spend 90 billion making a career in the military seem like a good option that you're
00:23:49.480 going to have a pension and a good pay and that you're going to be posted in places around the
00:23:53.080 world where you're going to make a difference you're fully trained i i do think that's necessary
00:23:57.800 guys a quick question brady uh you go first but i do want to ask a question after that about all
00:24:03.160 the rumblings about canada joining the uh european union no well yeah well don't get me started on
00:24:09.960 that one okay i'll get this thought out quick and we'll go we'll go into that direction um
00:24:14.440 well we've got to look at it this way if we need those 300 000 soldiers and we need to pull
00:24:18.600 resources and keep this all in house we need to get those soldiers now um because this takes
00:24:23.880 years jim would probably know better than i how long would it take to put 300 000 soldiers
00:24:28.440 in position to be actually ready to defend this country i mean in a crisis situation
00:24:34.880 if all things were like 10 months a year okay so one year that means we're two years away from
00:24:42.060 getting resources or getting oil out of the ground and a refinery built and getting that done so we
00:24:46.560 need them having one year in and of experience to know what to do when we start stockpiling our
00:24:51.360 resources and we ended up getting ahead because if canada gets ahead paul's right we need defense
00:24:57.320 big time and that's it and that's an allocation of resources also from you know we got to give
00:25:05.860 up this affordable housing plate and we got to move on to do housing for military housing for
00:25:11.600 uh essential services we're we're going in the wrong direction there we've said that on the show
00:25:17.540 for a while we're going totally you know i know we want to appease a bunch of people that uh feel
00:25:23.840 that they you know want a cheaper uh affordable housing i understand that but right now with
00:25:31.360 what's going on in canada that that shouldn't be a priority we're focused on given our real
00:25:36.560 estate woes in central canada and our real estate woes and other places on the west coast so i i
00:25:42.800 think that has to be re-looked at but the eu uh that's another one mike i'm gonna i'm gonna let
00:25:48.960 you kind of jump in on that one for a minute with jim but um and then i'll jump in on that one i
00:25:55.200 don't want it so i i've traveled to europe on you know and experienced the eu where you drive from
00:26:02.720 france to germany uh to spain to italy you don't have to show a passport it's great you just use 0.67
00:26:09.200 the euro everyone everywhere that's great i can't help but think that this sort of pole that came
00:26:15.680 out of nowhere was floated by some people in the mark carney office in the liberal office
00:26:21.360 to gauge public sentiment of it's almost like a trial balloon because i'm trying to think what
00:26:27.680 would the benefit be to canada and does that mean we lose the canadian dollar we're part of the euro
00:26:33.040 isn't that what happens to all the countries in the european union i just don't know how
00:26:37.120 much baked beans i can eat would we have to do that you know even even england didn't want to
00:26:44.240 to be part of the eu so i you know but i like schnitzel and germany's in the eu so all you
00:26:49.360 do it for the schnitzel oh you know what jim i've rethought the whole thing on schnitzel too
00:26:54.420 yeah okay okay we don't want to be part of the eu guys no no i do think it was uh i think it
00:27:01.900 was an air burger that was floated by the liberal party just to see where where people stand but it
00:27:08.100 came at a time where the rest of the world was denying donald trump uh any sort of attention
00:27:12.680 or any positivity toward his actions in iran and so i think that it got a little bit more volume
00:27:19.240 because of that i don't think there's any sensibility to it at all it had about as much
00:27:24.520 weight as the 51st state comment yeah what do you think about that now it sounds to me like trump
00:27:31.000 backstepped or i don't know somebody caught a a a moment with him tacos are gonna taco
00:27:37.000 all right okay well it's talk it's almost the end of taco tuesday do we have any final thoughts on
00:27:45.180 what's going on and where do we think this actually ends up does this does this go the
00:27:49.320 full two weeks um do they negotiate do we have a 10 point system like where are we at here guys
00:27:54.160 jim i'm gonna say it it goes at least 10 days um trump has got to rebuild a lot of support
00:28:03.720 within his own country and his own government before he even thinks about breaking this plan
00:28:09.080 they have got to find a way around this and both mike and paul have mentioned it even if this does
00:28:14.840 come to some sort of end a fertilizer um microprocessors petroleum um there's so many
00:28:23.460 things that will take weeks months maybe even longer to get back to full speed and we'll be
00:28:29.180 feeling the effects of this around the world for months to come so i i think this is and and with
00:28:35.260 nothing to show for you know for as an american you're like what did we actually do what did we
00:28:42.340 win one of the most difficult times in the history of in my history in my life uh economically and
00:28:50.860 uh sociologically wow this this then hit you know we needed this post-pandemic like a hole in the
00:28:59.260 head and it seems to have had it seems to be to no good end paul no yeah i'm thinking i'm thinking
00:29:08.700 three days right now oh really yeah i'm thinking three days i i really kind of on the with brady
00:29:14.540 on this one i don't i'll take that bet yeah i i really think that they haven't been able to keep
00:29:19.420 any peace plans in play
00:29:21.660 since this year,
00:29:27.220 probably the last two years.
00:29:28.840 Two years, Russia and Ukraine
00:29:30.900 had ceasefires every other couple days
00:29:33.160 and they kept...
00:29:34.840 Yeah, so I think that,
00:29:37.060 and we don't talk about it,
00:29:38.920 but you have Israel sitting there right now.
00:29:40.880 They're kind of the wild for us.
00:29:42.580 You notice tonight that they're very quiet.
00:29:45.960 You haven't seen much statements.
00:29:48.080 You haven't seen much coming up.
00:29:49.420 from them. There was a lot of scuttlebutt. There's a lot of kind of fake news during the day of
00:29:54.700 bridges and everything going on from Israel. So there's a lot of stuff flying around. So I think
00:30:00.520 you still have to wait and see what the reaction is from them. I think you got some other things
00:30:06.260 to look at. So I think definitely you got some challenges that are up right now that you got
00:30:10.560 to really pay attention to. Yeah, I did just think it's going to be hard and I hope not, but
00:30:18.860 you know i'm still thinking that look at i hope this this ceasefire lasts forever
00:30:25.180 like i hope this is it like this is done and i know that we all agree on that there's no good
00:30:30.300 outcome of a war going on um we're not stock traders right otherwise i couldn't see there
00:30:37.200 being a reason why you're going to benefit from something like this so i hope this is it i hope
00:30:41.600 the ceasefire is forever but realistically i think we hear something probably by the end of tomorrow
00:30:48.020 if not three days i i i'm in the three-day window as well i have to admit guys yeah it's not good
00:30:54.500 and i do know this the long-term image of donald trump has been shattered and i don't know if you
00:31:00.260 can ever fix it it's done and i you know i behave on this network i don't really say anything
00:31:06.980 negative about him i let jim does enough for all of us right but this is uh this is it you're not
00:31:14.500 getting into heaven buddy just call it call it in i think the tough part i think that the tough part
00:31:21.300 you know and i we've talked about it before but i think the tough part is you know even with the
00:31:26.340 peace plan getting done and even having to head back home the questions that are going to come
00:31:32.180 you know and he's facing uh primaries and all the things coming on so i think he's got so many
00:31:38.740 questions heading back home questions why why we started why they started you know that becomes
00:31:47.620 paramount for his you know future and unfortunately you know when they see the side effects of this
00:31:56.500 when it hits the economy back home and here i think the next set of questions come so that's
00:32:01.860 the challenge right it's just you know we just before this we hit the tariff bump and then we
00:32:07.620 we had all the tariffs, the Supreme Court decision and all that going on. And then we
00:32:11.760 decide to do this. And, you know, it just seemed like it's a cascade of things that are sort of
00:32:17.180 going sideways now. And, you know, his media support, his podcasting team that support him
00:32:24.000 seems to be, you know, starting to give up and move sideways. So there just seems to be so many
00:32:29.580 things going on that it's going to be hard to face up to. And then, quite frankly, what happens
00:32:35.140 next you know because uh if the country uh gets deadlocked you have a few more years left where
00:32:42.420 quite frankly you're just going to see gridlock and and nothing's going to pass nothing's going
00:32:46.740 to go forward there's going to be legal challenges that doesn't help growth and productivity in the
00:32:52.660 country either so there you know that that's the challenge right you know he whether you liked him
00:32:58.340 or didn't like him he did have a plan he did have a vision he did want to go in a direction whether
00:33:04.020 it was going to work or not i have no idea you know there were days i thought it did have some
00:33:08.340 glimpse of hope and other days i thought it was crazy but um does he he does he even get close to
00:33:14.740 enacting it now even this happened probably not i think you're right i think the next
00:33:22.580 unfortunate thing for the u.s is stagnation as they sit in gridlock and uh their situation um
00:33:30.420 And gas stagnation is the word that I think I come up with
00:33:35.360 because I don't see how they advance themselves.
00:33:38.760 I don't see how their immigration plan executes anymore
00:33:43.180 without, frankly, civil war.
00:33:46.600 I think that the polarity of the nation
00:33:49.500 is definitely going to intensify
00:33:54.380 and it's going to leave Americans in a worse position.
00:33:58.760 Yep, hear, hear.
00:34:00.420 No, and, you know, now the interesting thing is, I guess, if you look at the international global perspective of this, you know, this ends, and maybe after three days and it ends, he goes, you know, they float their boats home, they get back home.
00:34:20.540 what happens around the world what happens what happens in china what happens in india what
00:34:27.000 happens in russia those are all the things that i think you got to look at and i think those are
00:34:32.740 the things that are gonna be our next set of shows because if there's no uh pure global order
00:34:40.200 then quite frankly the other countries just uh increase their footprint in the world and and
00:34:46.800 that's that's the outcome of this crazy uh yeah you know conflict or war that we really didn't
00:34:53.120 see an end to yeah that's that's a perspective tough to look at but uh entirely entirely logical
00:35:02.160 uh you know uh well it remains to be seen over the next couple of days what happens i know this
00:35:08.320 if we're getting together in our jammies after work like this guys we'll probably keep some
00:35:13.360 good coverage while we're in the studio so i'll recommend people stay with us through uh this
00:35:18.480 process we're watching it from all kinds of angles and certainly with a canadian perspective on it
00:35:24.960 and a canadian eye on things brady thank you for coordinating all this tonight paul and jim
00:35:31.840 thanks for being here and thank you for being with us i hope that you'll recommend us to a friend
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