True Patriot Love - Trump's Strategy： Global Order Shifts

00:00:00.000 this has been an historic week not just for our prime minister mark carney but for all the wrong

00:00:10.560 reasons for u.s president donald trump and leaders of the world of the world economic forum and the

00:00:15.320 fallout is just being digested to talk more about it mike wicks and paul micucci paul how you doing

00:00:20.340 good good jim what a what a week no one could have predicted what we've witnessed this week

00:00:25.860 so the interesting part you know after so after the speech and i know you guys talked about the

00:00:30.980 speech so i won't go back into the speech because that's we got so much love from our viewers over

00:00:35.980 that one it's okay we can still have our opinions no no that was that was painful but after the speech

00:00:44.160 um i thought it was interesting um the president trump went back and he actually took questions

00:00:50.260 and you know unbelievable resilience this man has it's just unbelievable he then came back on

00:00:58.660 the stage and actually got the sharpie took it out right and he said now we're going to sign

00:01:05.420 the board of peace agreement right which i don't even know what the board of peace agreement is to

00:01:12.700 tell you the truth other than it has something to do with the contribution of a billion dollars which he

00:01:16.340 at one point said that prime minister carney was on it and then prime minister carney came back and

00:01:21.460 said hey time out i had no idea what this is more details details are always good right so he came

00:01:27.960 back but then the funny thing is he he jumped and i'll jimmy i'll let you read him out but he jumped on

00:01:33.520 he jumped on the stage and if for any of you get a chance go watch it because it looked like uh 25 is

00:01:40.820 it 25 of them something like that it's around 25 of them they they actually look shell-shocked

00:01:46.660 it's almost like it's almost like someone uh came and not tapped them and they're like i don't know

00:01:52.020 if i want to be on the stage because after a speech they're like maybe maybe i don't want to be the

00:01:55.700 guy on but now it's picture photos taken photos taken and they're all sitting there like like this and

00:02:01.300 then nobody really looked comfortable sitting there right no no they didn't look comfortable at all and

00:02:05.220 then quite frankly the the countries that were on the stage were armenia uzbekistan uh paraguay mongolia kosovo

00:02:14.420 kazakhstan bulgaria it's countries like that so you know so he got the sharpie out and he did the

00:02:21.860 the big smile with the the signing and the pen had them in there okay so i'm like oh that's a little

00:02:28.180 odd right don't know this list of countries i'm sorry sorry paul to interrupt this list of countries

00:02:34.820 seems like a club that canada probably would not necessarily be a member of well we were already on the

00:02:40.740 plane right like his plane was coming in we were we were waiting to go out think about it so we were

00:02:45.140 gone yeah um canada france italy you know big major countries all the big major uh you know

00:02:54.260 japan south carolina none of them were on there no no all the major economies all the major players

00:03:00.100 they're not there no because they don't know well and that's the thing like so now after a speech

00:03:05.460 you're kind of like oh i gotta have a little my you know my suspicion meter my wrist meter has gone

00:03:12.020 up yeah so a lot of countries like oh time right the the days of kind of blind trust are all gone

00:03:18.340 because you know the goodwill is gone so so that's why you're not getting people to sign so i'm thinking

00:03:23.860 okay that's odd odd countries looking all nervous i guess it's over um and then all of a sudden we see

00:03:31.060 well we signed a deal or we're no not we signed to do it looks like we have a deal for greenland oh

00:03:37.460 yeah right yeah for the basis of the mineral where did you get that information and i'm like you do like

00:03:43.300 holy cow i'm like wow that's and i and i was driving and i'm like he's amazing what a what a negotiating

00:03:49.300 strategy right right you know he beat them down and then quite frankly they surrendered to him and gave

00:03:54.020 him greenland like wow that's crazy however however yeah yeah so there's more to the story

00:04:00.260 as they say story so there there's no agreement nothing was uh given in detail they're still

00:04:06.340 negotiating there's little things that are leaking out now so we're starting to see little leaks about

00:04:11.700 how it's a land lease and how you know and i guess that's where he was uh going when he said it was

00:04:17.860 a long-term deal the price would be good it wasn't what he anticipated paying but he never said if

00:04:23.780 he had purchased greenland so and then so true he does have a way of leaving words out of a sentence

00:04:31.540 that are kind of key yeah that make you a liar if you leave them out yeah like a lease and owning

00:04:37.460 greece greenland are completely different and and it's amazing because then you're watching i get home

00:04:43.140 and right away i throw in the our you know canadian news little coverage i throw on fox just to see

00:04:48.580 what they're saying and it's kind of funny and they're like brilliant negotiating strategy the

00:04:53.540 way he puts this in place the way he browbeats them and then pulls back and takes and i'm like

00:04:58.980 i'm like i don't think that's true at all i think that's just like that that's just trying to what

00:05:03.380 he wants you to think yeah i guess he wants you to think but yeah you know i i don't believe that's

00:05:07.940 you know back to this list but even you ever see a bully uh remember the bullies in the schoolyard yeah

00:05:14.020 i mean you were the bully right i was bullied me too remember the group of guys that used to hang

00:05:19.060 out with the bully they're all they're a mismatch of uglies yeah yeah they didn't have a huge amount 0.90

00:05:23.140 of brains they were just following the toughest guy in the room that feels like what he did was he 0.96

00:05:27.940 got a b-list of players no offense to any of these countries yeah to make it look like he had enormous

00:05:32.980 support this is another example of that right another example of taking the truth and twisting it

00:05:39.300 around and the rest of the world waiting to go hold on a second

00:05:44.020 we gotta fact check this yeah i don't even know what this is think about this gentleman it wasn't

00:05:48.180 that long ago when the president of the united states was at a forum like this and had an initiative

00:05:55.620 you would have the who's who of nations lining up oh yeah that was that was part for the course and

00:06:01.300 you wanted your world leader your prime minister president to be part of this and now the i mean this

00:06:08.020 is the whole crux of this week is the the chasm and the relationship between the two like the rest

00:06:14.900 of the world in the united states the rest of the big players in the world and how they repair that

00:06:19.140 gavin newsom came on um after trump and after mark carney and talked about how much he loved mark carney's

00:06:25.060 speech and he he's talking about the damage being done to america the american republic and the long-term

00:06:31.140 damage and no matter who is president how they can repair it and it it's not going to be a couple years

00:06:36.660 into the new administration it could take a decade yeah uh that's that makes perfect sense to me that

00:06:43.220 he's laying groundwork that is almost a waste of time now for everybody and and these deals that he's

00:06:48.420 making are yeah there he has a lease agreement already doesn't he with greenland they have a

00:06:53.380 long-term lease agreement 51 so he's not he's not really doing anything there except making noise

00:07:00.660 that he's protecting america or protecting the hemisphere well let's wait and see right so i think a

00:07:05.700 little bit of wait and see but the interesting part so the you know maybe he does have something

00:07:09.620 he needs he's trying to uh finish it finish the negotiations you know uh mark wright of nato was

00:07:16.340 the one who was apparently champing it and so that was you know the scuttlebutt that came out of last

00:07:21.060 night then you know as we're all going to sleep and getting up this morning we're hearing that there's

00:07:25.220 an emergency meeting of of the eu to talk about this speech and also to talk about nato i don't know

00:07:32.740 what that means and and uh greenland not iceland greenland but you know to talk about it a good

00:07:38.660 distinction yeah so to talk about it and and so we're going to find out now so you know jump the

00:07:46.180 gun all over the place you know signing things and you know trying to leave saying you have a deal

00:07:52.580 okay got it right so you know all those things are happening and then i start to think to myself okay

00:07:59.860 we you know our prime minister went and uh gave a great speech i think we all agree yeah it was

00:08:06.180 you know the speech itself was written and i i'm probably the most critical i think of all of us

00:08:11.540 of the pr that our prime minister gets from his team so i don't think he gets great pr a lot of the

00:08:16.900 time on many shows i've said you know i think of a lot of his challenges since the beginning of his

00:08:22.740 taking office has been just piss poor pr yeah no yeah i agree it's just been terrible they don't

00:08:29.460 communicate with us what's being done exactly and i think that would help substantially or help quite

00:08:35.140 a bit if they would do so you know and i took so then i last night i was going through and i was

00:08:39.700 i was watching the speech again and some great lines like whoever wrote it you know uh this is a

00:08:45.780 rupture not a transition uh stop living within a lie uh integration is now a weapon strategic autonomy

00:08:56.020 is understandable but dangerous if everyone builds fortresses middle powers aren't helpless

00:09:02.820 strength at home equals freedom abroad like these are even the hair on my my hands are starting to

00:09:08.340 come up right nostalgia is not a strategy canada is taking the sign out of the window like these

00:09:15.620 are just like great lines so whoever you know the the speech writer whoever wrote it awesome job so

00:09:22.580 now i'm thinking i'm kind of fast forwarding i'm thinking okay if i'm sitting i'm back in canada

00:09:27.060 now you know he's landed he's with his cabinet today i'm back in canada he's probably thinking

00:09:33.620 himself okay you know i went there and i did my speech and i acknowledged that you know globalism

00:09:42.180 as it was with the u.s in play is dead because that's you know he's i think there's no doubt if

00:09:49.620 anyone doubts the u.s position at this point well then you you're not leaving yeah you're not all there

00:09:56.980 that'd be possible you're not all there right he's made it the one thing i got about trump that i do

00:10:01.620 give him credit for is that where it may be uh very harsh you totally understand his position so

00:10:11.540 he's you know he's numerous repetitive times he's repeated we need greenland we need greenland we have

00:10:17.860 to have greenland yeah like he does kind of hammer it seems juvenile oh it's a style but it's a style

00:10:25.140 yeah it's a style it's it can be harsh but but he has fully communicated that trade with us trade

00:10:32.340 with the world is changing it's nationalistic it's globalism in his mind is dead he's not

00:10:37.540 going to participate in it he's not going to participate in uh the green agenda he's not so

00:10:43.300 he's kind of done it given us a laundry list of all the things that he's out on and paul rook it that is

00:10:49.220 the point like you nailed it right there because for so long especially the first term oh that's

00:10:54.340 just trump oh you know he's he used to be in the apprentice he's just joking but you you just

00:10:58.820 encapsulated it no it's not a joke anymore no it's not just trump this is who he is and it's he just

00:11:04.580 laid it bare this week it's a thick fat document available for anybody so let's deal yeah let's deal 0.94

00:11:10.500 with him yeah as the threat that he is if you believe that and it's not just him tweeting silly

00:11:15.860 stuff and joking anymore right so then so you know and this is where i started going in my mind

00:11:21.940 trying to figure out so not number one our prime minister comes back gets with his cabinet because

00:11:27.060 i think he gets you know obviously from his speech uh he's an intelligent man he does get the fact that

00:11:32.580 he now is with the middle powers or on our own so i think that's you know because you know we as the

00:11:42.340 middle powers have to get together and figure things out well i in my mind again that's a very

00:11:48.820 broad statement so that's assuming so now he's got to assume that the middle powers which he's defining as

00:11:55.460 want to do that well i believe the uk france and italy and countries like that do want to work with him

00:12:02.980 and are quite upset with america and or with the current administration and with donald trump

00:12:09.460 so i think there's a lot of appetite especially with the groundwork laid this week at double

00:12:13.540 switzerland for a lot of these middle power leaders and middle power countries to to work together for

00:12:18.900 their own protection for their own future right well then so then i called mike and i was i was having

00:12:24.020 the conversation but i said this is a great article and you had the clip yeah actually this is uh

00:12:28.820 michelle rempel garner from uh the globe mail uh responding to carny's speech and so carny's speech

00:12:34.900 here's her quote and so carny's speech must not be lauded as a victory in and of itself now he must

00:12:41.060 do something much more difficult deliver concrete practical details on how canada's ruling political

00:12:46.500 class will summon the necessary resolve resources and urgency to break through a decade of inertia

00:12:52.660 and complacency smash through taboos and build a nation that is truly strong self-reliant and independent

00:12:58.980 now that is actually truthful words yeah it's great and it does it's exactly what i was feeling

00:13:04.580 it really what's the next step which is being laid out in quebec city on this thursday with his cabinet

00:13:10.980 yeah yes that's that that's what that's that is that really what's being done he comes home with no

00:13:17.540 potential with so far i don't see a clear vision what he does with alberta there's no firm deals in

00:13:23.460 place from his jaunts around the world that i've heard of no official trade arrangements that benefit

00:13:30.420 canada uh no new projects that he announced have uh really gotten underway and most of them uh it seems

00:13:36.260 like budgeting isn't even complete we've got housing problems inflation and now and we'll talk about this

00:13:42.020 coming up later on the network here we have a six stock market and this is his realm yeah yeah so he's

00:13:49.860 he arrives home to and this is just a short list that came to me as we started the show yeah he's

00:13:55.860 got a lot of challenges to face so i heard a source say the department national offense have been told to

00:14:01.940 gear up for three months of non-stop procurement that this part of this come to jesus meeting with his

00:14:09.460 cabinet after this meeting is to get serious about retooling the military building infrastructure

00:14:15.860 so the roads minister and all this kind of stuff i think i i mean what what else can he do after

00:14:21.780 this meeting and then to that point it's it's creating future jobs current jobs it's the future

00:14:29.620 of canada the new future of canada yeah but it's more now it's it's interesting because you know what

00:14:36.340 michelle was getting at and what i think my head came to right away is okay forget trump you know trump's

00:14:42.820 you know we accept yeah we get it we he said it he's basically said it so now go through our gdp

00:14:51.700 you know because our experts you know they're our number one export trading partner and we're going

00:14:57.860 to have to assume most of that is gone so whether it be you know uh real estate uh finance insurance

00:15:06.900 manufacturing uh retail public administration healthcare construction transportation energy

00:15:13.700 mining and these are all the items that make up a hundred percent of our gdp agricultural defense

00:15:20.660 and accommodations and food services sorry those are all the things that make up a basically our economy

00:15:27.140 he's going to almost have to dissect them individually and say how is this impacted and how do i either

00:15:35.460 recreate it here or reach a trade agreement there or replace it with other new and innovative ways to

00:15:44.100 generate revenue out of this country yeah and and maybe it's not on that list yet but he needs to find

00:15:49.700 them but he but realistically he can't it can't go from what it is now trade-wise the us to zero if

00:15:57.780 american companies need our nickel we'll still sell them nickel oh sure and oil and whatever other goods

00:16:04.580 and services but yeah to your point now there's a new deal with japan now there's a new deal with

00:16:09.540 england now there's a new deal with you name the country to balance out maybe what the less but

00:16:14.660 there's still always going to be a huge amount of trade in the united states of america and it will

00:16:19.460 and resources and that always makes sense but if you look at processed or manufactured items what what

00:16:25.540 what the president is saying what trump is saying is i'm going to replace those so you know like

00:16:29.620 yesterday and it will be easier and they won't have any strings attached you won't have any

00:16:34.660 auto trade he wants to come solely back to the united states right whether food processing uh retail

00:16:41.140 manufacturing all those things he wants to come so if you're going to sell it in the united states

00:16:45.860 you're going to produce it in the united states so and that's what he and okay so real quick yeah

00:16:52.340 you're an american making 35 a year already struggling to pay the bills and now he's doing

00:16:59.460 that so those nikes that are built for pennies in the dollar in vietnam are going to be built in

00:17:04.740 pennsylvania and they're going to cost you triple the price i can't buy new shoes that's going to be a

00:17:08.980 tough sell for a lot of americans who are struggling to pay the rent and feed themselves yeah and they're

00:17:14.420 probably not going to be wearing nikes in the next tent so if he has his vision you know nike will either

00:17:20.020 come home they'll sell them for a higher amount but then you know the guy who's wearing them now

00:17:27.140 because they're coming out of china or whatever yeah won't be wearing nikes anymore he'll be switching

00:17:32.260 to the boxes that the shoes came in or another brand another no-name brand but you know yeah he's

00:17:40.340 that's where he's going with this like he's not the branding of things aren't concerning him he's wanting

00:17:45.700 the manufacturing so from our perspective we got to be dissecting our economy and saying okay

00:17:52.340 if that if that's cutting off

00:17:56.980 where can we go that we can sell our stuff abroad or manufacture it here and there they have the uh

00:18:04.500 they have the information they have the details to do it they would have to in my mind start to create

00:18:11.300 the structure and i think that's where michelle's going she's like okay great now all the money we

00:18:16.740 pay to all these ministers to handle all these uh ministries it's time for you guys to go away and

00:18:23.380 share the plan for each of these gdp items how you're going to look at these impacts so for instance

00:18:29.780 energy then it's imperative we have a pipeline to bc that we can ship heavy crude to south korea japan

00:18:36.500 indonesia and the philippines there's new markets right there yeah that would be that example what

00:18:42.100 you're talking about having said that trump makes it clear in his strategy that dealing outside the

00:18:47.380 hemisphere will not be good for canada right well that's another and boy he's already pissed at

00:18:53.780 canada obviously so how can but wait a sec how could he possibly stop us from selling our oil to asian

00:18:59.780 countries taxing us and tariff but that that is what that is his national strategy yeah uh

00:19:06.500 so that's that's something we have to go have a conversation with so in my mind that's something

00:19:12.660 that's a hurdle that needs to be addressed so that's kind of the elephant in the room right now

00:19:16.740 that no one's talking about you know they've wrote it they've talked about it and they've talked about

00:19:21.060 why so now someone has to go out conversation well you know you've left us here we've got to get to

00:19:27.620 here i have to go and i have to put a overall structural plan in place for my country so with a

00:19:33.380 basically a accountability and a delivery spine that works that makes the ecosystem of canada

00:19:39.060 function so you know it doesn't just stop and become one subsidized group which right maybe maybe

00:19:45.780 you would like but it's really a full project plan with timelines milestones and and basic taking my

00:19:52.100 ministers and taking from probably ministerial sort of oversight to actually implementers right you know

00:20:00.340 so putting people in place that can set up so for tim hodge and the energy minister

00:20:04.740 front and center get the pipeline built go and do it yeah yeah yeah you have so many days here's

00:20:09.780 your assignment execute it fail twice fail twice and there's a new person taking right yeah yeah so

00:20:15.380 it's like one of those like i don't have a choice now i almost have to lay that ground infrastructure

00:20:20.580 minister we're going to build new roads and we're going to build a new power lines and new mass transit

00:20:25.700 subways going to get it built to your point guys both of you you know trump shows up and he's like

00:20:31.700 we're doing this and we've done that and we're doing this oh we're great at that we show up and

00:20:37.140 the rest of the world shows up saying we have to do this in the future there's a real different dialogue

00:20:43.940 going on there trump shows up saying we're doing our strategy yeah the rest of the world shows up and

00:20:50.660 carney frankly one of those it was a very good speech and it was endearing and motivational yes

00:20:56.900 but he didn't sit there and say we've done this to to prepare ourselves we're doing this this this

00:21:01.940 and this to open up the global stage to ourselves we're putting new deals in place that work like

00:21:07.140 this for taxation and we recommend other countries do that what he did was give a lofty spiritual uh

00:21:15.380 discussion what a contrast right so it's interesting you're and it is a little bit it's hard to follow

00:21:21.380 i understand when you're listening to trump but you're you're listening to someone tell stories about

00:21:26.900 things they're actually doing so and it's an it's a contrast because one at one different personalities

00:21:34.020 different business backgrounds different skill sets so you're listening to someone philosophically

00:21:40.500 laying out a theoretical strategy yeah and then you're listening to someone maybe too much so

00:21:47.140 talking about phone calls and granular discussions to cut deals it's very much a doer you know it it

00:21:56.180 very much is different but we now have to gravitate and i'm not i don't want to listen to their

00:22:01.300 phone calls because those are terrible stories but but i do want to start to hear the plan so then so

00:22:08.660 then i kind of fast forward so i'm thinking to myself okay you know we're we're heading to calgary

00:22:13.540 we're going to cover uh you know the uh convention um for the conservative party the federal conservative

00:22:20.100 party and i'm thinking to myself curious to think now because you know maybe when they set their agenda

00:22:27.700 and i think jim we had the agenda somewhere but yeah right here yeah when they set the agenda their

00:22:32.100 their agenda was um very domestic mostly domestic crime crime social policy health education fiscal

00:22:42.180 economy policy agricultural trade you know they're all they're all important i'm not i'm not immigration

00:22:48.980 uh foreign affairs you know there's some national security stuff on there but i'm thinking now that if

00:22:54.500 i'm i'm sitting there and i'm actually leading into this and i'm watching what's going on in the world

00:23:00.900 the key question coming out of this is what would you do different right jim and you know you and i

00:23:07.060 talked about what what is that ending speech so when the conference is over yes and the sound bite

00:23:13.460 speech comes can pierre pauliev give a similar speech to what mark carney did in davos switzerland axe attacks

00:23:22.260 if that if that's his spin i'm being serious mike if he starts falling to the old platitudes from the last

00:23:29.380 election how could not just people there's a lot of people already don't like him but the power brokers

00:23:35.300 the conservative party how would they put their faith in their money behind him if they don't get

00:23:41.220 a big-time performance of the convention why why would you do it and us and also why doesn't their

00:23:47.460 strategy i mean they we received their policy strategy for review by their executive committee

00:23:53.300 mm-hmm it was posted a week ago guys was that right about a week ago we got that strategy so

00:24:02.020 this is pretty current writing it would have been very smart for them to include a strategy of okay

00:24:09.060 how do we use the opposition a to be patriotic at a time we need to and look out for canadians

00:24:15.220 alongside and offer support for our prime minister because that is what it's going to take guys i'm sorry

00:24:20.500 but it is you have to be a little less polarized at the moment to make this country operate and and

00:24:27.860 move forward and then the other thing is why isn't he out there creating this dialogue in those

00:24:35.780 documents on the convention website in social media i'm going to ask around the studio show of hands

00:24:41.620 who's seen a poly of response to what's going on in uh in davos nothing i see not one single hand in

00:24:48.100 the room i saw it from michelle remper garner with that really well written and well thought out

00:24:52.660 article and column that she wrote yeah but but not see the air paulia and many of the other countries

00:24:59.460 at davos had the opposition gavin newsom was there at the absolutely so we didn't see poly of there and

00:25:07.300 and i'm by the way i'm not i'm not out here trying to harp on on uh uh paulia but the the reality is

00:25:14.980 i don't feel like he's really focused on this next major phase for our country mike it's not harping

00:25:21.540 think about what paul said in reading off all the itinerary for the convention this is

00:25:26.740 will the conservative party throw all their chips on the table and their money and their resources

00:25:31.540 and their time to support him in another election because if you do you think you can win fine but if

00:25:38.100 you don't think he can do what carney did in davos if you don't think he is the one if you don't think

00:25:44.180 he could become prime minister well i think this is the time to make the decision well and also jim

00:25:50.500 you know as i've been saying on a few past shows give him the direction you want him to go so yes you

00:25:58.340 know you can't you know you can't uh keep criticizing him you got to actually if you want him to stay as

00:26:04.500 the leader you got to give him some direction so i tried to figure out last night i started kind of

00:26:08.980 typing out saying okay if i'm sitting in their boardroom and i have that white board and i have

00:26:13.620 my strategy team basically around the boardroom table what things am i throwing on the board right

00:26:18.820 so this is the moment to step up and not sit out so right away i'm starting to figure out okay

00:26:24.820 how do we step up how do we get engaged to this plan choose engagement over symbolism so then i'm just

00:26:31.860 writing out okay so let's not he gave a great speech but i'd come out and say like i'm ready

00:26:37.540 to jump in roll up my sleeves and get to work and here's how show canada what a conservative prime

00:26:43.620 minister looks like abroad so i think you have to basically say that now so you know uh he you know

00:26:51.700 the middle countries he's defined our prime ministers define the middle countries what would

00:26:56.820 you do differently or would you just do the same thing so i think we need we need to figure out where

00:27:01.060 they're at um foreign policy can't be an afterthought so i think that's the one thing i put down that

00:27:08.020 the conservative party has made that mistake on the last election are they going to make the mistake

00:27:13.380 again so the priority list of things that are at the conference should start with foreign policy because

00:27:21.300 that foreign policy question is the biggest question we have with our sovereignty going forward on

00:27:27.700 potential issues with the united states and not even close yeah even close so if i had to prioritize

00:27:34.340 what i'm going to talk about it would be at least 40 to 50 percent on that issue and the rest quite

00:27:39.860 frankly i might be putting on sidebar breakout rooms you know so i could at least get my policy

00:27:45.860 platform together coming out of this to give direction for the party of where we want to go right

00:27:52.180 think of all this real quick think of all the conservative supporters who maybe can't be in

00:27:56.180 calgary or watching this go wait a sec what about what about what's going on around the world wouldn't

00:28:01.860 they be asking that yeah yeah because this is a group historically conservatives are uh the money

00:28:08.740 group right they are the people that understand money and they make the battle against uh liberal

00:28:13.860 decisions to spend money like crazy and so that's part of it but they're going to you're right jim

00:28:19.300 they're going to see across the border right away and they want to see what this is the other thing

00:28:23.620 is you i talk to conservatives and you do every day and there is no doubt that among conservative

00:28:30.500 supporters there's a little bit of questioning whether or not all he has a guy we don't know

00:28:35.300 that there'll be an election because you know it hasn't been stated but there's moment he is does not

00:28:41.620 have the likability factor unfortunately fair or not as a top and elite politician that you need he doesn't

00:28:48.740 have now okay by those standards how the hell is trump the president but half of america love him

00:28:55.860 that's why how did we get half of canada or more if i'm the conservative party to like my guy is it

00:29:02.820 make him more personable make him more knowledgeable make him more worldly i don't know if you can make

00:29:08.340 him more accountable so what i would do so this is what i would do at this point i would actually now

00:29:14.660 present a person that had a very definitive granular plan so basically and that's where i came out of

00:29:21.780 you know when i was starting to do my whiteboard i'd sit down and say i think canadians people are

00:29:27.300 fearful right now they're afraid how could you not be they don't know the risk and the uncertainty

00:29:32.340 that's in the marketplace is being shown everywhere whether it be our dollar the you know the stock markets

00:29:37.780 everywhere you know real estate look at real estate it's a disaster so i would sit down and i'd have a

00:29:43.460 very granular plan by all the gdp all the sectors that i called out and i would have a basic a project

00:29:51.220 plan that had timelines accountability had a procurement strategy so i would i would reposition

00:29:58.180 my party you know the shadow ministers i would actually roll out my shadow ministers and i would say

00:30:04.580 it's not just me here's the team that you would be buying going forward to bring you forward and

00:30:11.620 here's all their responsibilities and here's how i'm going to manage this because i think that's the

00:30:16.180 missing link in this whether it's kind of both sides right now so you know whether it's whether it's

00:30:22.660 the liberals or the conservatives the person that actually can get to the public with a plan right

00:30:27.860 now that people buy into and feel like we're coming out the other side okay is the person that's

00:30:34.500 going to get the public trust the great speeches right now and riding on the fumes of all that are

00:30:40.180 fine if things start to veer off the path and we go into recession and unemployment goes up to 12 and

00:30:48.180 things start to get people are going to forget pretty in pretty fast politics is what have you done for me

00:30:53.140 lately yeah so i'm i'm if i'm on the opposition right now i am i have my writers and my uh research teams

00:31:03.380 with my ministers writing specific plans by industry where i'm going how i'm going to go

00:31:09.300 agriculture health infrastructure all that exactly so i'm giving it to the public and i'm actually it

00:31:14.900 shows you're serious right then the next thing in my tune mike and jim i'm getting on a train i'm

00:31:20.900 getting on a plane and i'm going to those cities and i'm telling people what it is like they're not

00:31:29.940 they're not working right now they haven't been seated since christmas like think about it you

00:31:35.060 know that sounds bizarre because we've all i don't even remember much at christmas no it's been such a

00:31:41.300 busy little busy setting of media company paul yeah you know it's been busy so i would be i would be

00:31:47.860 moving into the buy of time i don't think they go back for another month or so correct i would

00:31:52.740 literally almost like a i hate that i'm not using this as a bad thing but i almost like a u.s

00:31:58.900 politician does you know you watch us the whistle stop right yeah the u.s politicians are very good at

00:32:03.700 it man they they get their platforms and and they get on the road right and they're in auditoriums

00:32:09.140 they're in arenas they're all over you know what's trump on he's on the affordability tour yeah he's

00:32:16.660 the president united states and he's on the affordability he's he's already branded his tour

00:32:21.700 he's already going to those cities right you know and that's what i would be doing now and i'd be

00:32:26.660 saying this is where i'm getting it out and you know if you're going to vote for me you're going to

00:32:30.260 vote for me because this is where i'm going right i think paul real quick and you can mike you chime in

00:32:35.780 here there's a lot of canadians of you polyev as trump light as mini trump and and and and if he is

00:32:43.060 staying on they have got to do what you said and come out as a serious politician with a plan and an

00:32:51.140 agenda and get away from if they can from the perception of who he is because that if they can't

00:32:59.300 get rid of that well then what's the point uh they had an opportunity to use humanity on their

00:33:04.820 side at a time when the nation was so fed up with trudeau uh that they could have walked in and

00:33:09.860 taken this away and i ask you both if it wasn't a robotic uh i guess arguing machine the conservative

00:33:20.340 party has been viewed as i think for several years now if they came out of the gate ready and saying

00:33:27.300 okay we are not the majority or we are not the but we do represent a lot of canada and we're going

00:33:34.020 to get behind our nation right now that's really important right but you're also going to hear from

00:33:40.260 us where we agree and don't agree with our federal government where we agree and we don't agree at the

00:33:46.260 local level and minister mccucci the shadow minister of finance this is what we'll do when we're in power

00:33:53.300 and as you said just lay it all out and give people facts and information and also i'd like to

00:33:58.980 meet with the prime minister as the leader of this party quarterly to share my discoveries to share the

00:34:05.380 feedback that we've got well that's part of the accountability and the measurement piece which any

00:34:09.220 business or any country needs to succeed right and that's where we've been we listen many shows i've

00:34:15.460 done about the lack of productivity of canada right now so there's tons of examples why we've ended to

00:34:22.500 be the i think the second last country in the in the developed country we're in second last place

00:34:28.020 productivity per capita there's there's lots of examples how do we move forward and how do we get

00:34:33.940 we don't measure ourselves and we don't put enough and i think that's where we've gotten now is with the

00:34:39.060 u.s moving off and we're sitting on our own we're like okay how do we because there's a there is a

00:34:46.020 feeling of hopelessness a little bit right now people are like i'm feeling a little hopeless like what next

00:34:51.140 yeah maybe i should start thinking about going back to my country of origin maybe i should start

00:34:55.140 well the opposition pushing up against a strategy nationally on a daily basis does not help that

00:35:01.220 psychology no because it feels like we're spinning our wheels as a nation so what you're talking about

00:35:05.540 is him getting at him or let's not even talk about him for a minute the pure policy i'm sorry that i'm

00:35:10.500 sorry we're actually but he's the guy no no for now but you think the conservatives in general let's talk

00:35:14.980 about the conservatives because i i don't want to put too much uh stress on him because i do really

00:35:19.860 believe that it's up to the party to come out of this with a campaign so whether it's the affordability

00:35:26.100 tour whether it's uh you know i don't know productivity tour productivity tour resource

00:35:34.260 canada tour whatever it is it's you know the plan or whatever and we go out and there's something

00:35:40.420 published and he starts to tell people about it that'll push which is good the debate with the liberals

00:35:47.700 and with the prime minister on getting an actual on-ground plan which is hard you know think about

00:35:56.100 it you've been you spent you know the and both of them quite frankly i think have the same a little

00:36:02.100 bit of the same malady they spent their lives in boardrooms or government offices yeah yep right and

00:36:09.140 that's a challenge sometimes because if you haven't actually went in the real world and been an

00:36:14.180 entrepreneur and ran your own business and functioned uh as normal businesses do it's sometimes

00:36:21.300 hard to transition your thinking over to what the guy on the ground needs because you're in such a

00:36:25.380 little insular bubble right also that insular bubble is tunnels and trails and pathways that are very

00:36:31.540 specific to get things done that don't exist in the real world exactly so yeah so now creating that

00:36:36.660 granular plan with your ministers and your team it's going to make both of them kind of come to ground

00:36:42.180 on not only domestic issues but how those domestic issues tie to our new foreign affairs issues so and

00:36:49.860 and that's the tie that we're missing right now and i think that's that's where it'll help and and i hope

00:36:55.060 i hope they listen and i hope you know whatever this conference ends up being it comes out with a plan

00:37:01.300 and a strategy that actually will push both parties to elevate because that's ideal yeah guys i think

00:37:09.540 canadians now especially after what you said paul and mike don't just criticize don't just give me

00:37:15.700 the sound bites okay yeah we are worried homes aren't being built we're worried about a price of a

00:37:21.780 house like this and that condos don't sell at all anymore in our country food and blah blah blah okay

00:37:27.860 what would you do how would you do it tell us just tell me yeah and and therefore you have a plan

00:37:35.220 whether the plan works perfectly or not i just think people need a leader to give them a plan to

00:37:39.940 try to take them out of it the end result will be the end result we know you think you really think

00:37:45.140 like and if think we watch trump do you think he really knows the end result out of anything he's

00:37:50.740 doing no okay no way not a chance no not a chance no but i think that he's given but he does make

00:37:56.020 outcomes but i don't think he even registers them no but he he he calculates it he makes a decision and

00:38:03.060 he goes in a direction very american but it is a way to get things done now the end result sometimes

00:38:10.340 might be you know disastrous but is it more disastrous not to have a plan and sit and fail

00:38:18.020 than to get on your feet and have a plan and at least get to an outcome where you can assess and

00:38:22.980 maybe be able to manipulate it or change it to get the outcome you wanted and i think that's where we're

00:38:29.300 failing now we're sitting we're sitting in theories and philosophies and we don't have anyone on either

00:38:36.980 side going to ground and that's what you know if i was any advice for this coming convention you know

00:38:43.860 change your agenda focus on determining that figure out what resources you need and it also comes with

00:38:52.660 we've talked about it mike many times get a media plan yeah be able to oh my goodness guys for crying

00:39:01.620 out loud for the conservative party of canada please figure out a media plan because quite frankly not

00:39:10.100 having one and not communicating very well and i'm a you know again i criticize both parties i criticize

00:39:17.860 you know the bad pr on one side the the conservative party not much better quite frankly because they

00:39:24.420 haven't figured out a way uh other than you know fundraising emails and other things to get into

00:39:31.380 anyone's inbox so you know you need to figure that out because you you have to track sorry to that end

00:39:38.020 media plan the last thing paulia have tweeted yesterday was about a carbon tax and the price of the pump

00:39:43.460 yeah we heard that before what if what if that what if that post was very impressed with our prime

00:39:51.220 minister thank you for representing us well at davos yeah looking forward okay can i add a little bit

00:39:56.820 looking looking forward to getting on and working together on a strategic granular plan on how to move

00:40:03.780 forward by sector that would be a great there's not a word it's all about grocery prices carbon tax

00:40:10.340 and the same old stuff we heard over and over again rent but there's nothing about the speech and

00:40:17.300 nothing like what you said mike when you see the conservative party in the media it's it's always painted

00:40:23.220 by a lot of traditional media and then the uh conservative uh independent media and i hope we don't fall

00:40:30.900 into that category i often worry about that we try to have a pretty balanced voice here many of them are

00:40:36.100 the rebel news and the junos of the world that are or blender that are very hard-hitting hammering

00:40:42.100 hammering hammering hashtag ezra ezra come join us we'd like to talk to you interesting guy but having

00:40:51.380 said that uh i do think that they do a very poor job of being out there when they could have a strategy

00:40:59.060 a strategy includes getting your own media out there getting your own discussions out there in front of

00:41:04.580 the public but why if you can't trust the traditional media to cover you it's an opportunity to cover

00:41:09.540 yourself with more depth with more positivity well we don't see it well you you don't see it but you

00:41:16.340 know again we criticize you know we criticize donald trump wasn't he in the same slide he was yeah i i

00:41:25.780 think he have to build himself up with a media strategy that could overcome mainstream media and

00:41:30.500 actually create huge huge huge in a bigger nation with me and you know again you know we're we're

00:41:38.020 saying you know it wasn't such a great couple days but but you know you got to give him credit he did

00:41:43.380 figure out a way to get his message into you know half of america right to get himself on a ballot to

00:41:51.140 actually go and win and then quite frankly with a strategy that was pretty granular right when you you

00:41:58.180 read what he was what he was selling at that time to americans was very definitive right i'm gonna

00:42:07.460 take so many immigrants out of the nation i'm gonna you know build the wall again like again it was very 1.00

00:42:14.500 detailed and he went to each of the again because he's on that train ride around the nation he's going

00:42:20.340 and he's talking to people and he's saying okay you need that i can do that you can need that i can do that

00:42:26.500 and here's how it ties into the bigger picture of my nationalistic view of america and destroying

00:42:34.180 globalism in our nation i don't agree with it but quite frankly i do see what he was doing and i do

00:42:40.180 see how he did it we can't complain it for the conservative party that we can't get on tvs and

00:42:46.100 radios and everywhere else because there is a way to do it it's been done so but but there you talk media

00:42:51.860 strategy why wouldn't someone in the conservative party say we are not going to put a tweet out this

00:42:57.380 week about grocery prices and the price of the pump as as wouldn't they seem like real leaders if

00:43:04.580 they said what you said paul and said hey i i felt as a proud canadian but whatever great speech but

00:43:10.500 we you know but let's get down to work and there's no mention of it hey pm call me but that's structure

00:43:16.660 right so that's who's making that call no but to me that that's a structural issue right which we hit

00:43:22.740 on here i can't get a plan until i get a team together that can execute the plan so i have to

00:43:27.780 build that team i got to get them into the right place i have to empower them set up accountability

00:43:32.740 set up reporting set up monitoring just like running a normal business right that's what i'm talking about

00:43:37.300 you know being having the ability to been in business and understand the importance of putting all

00:43:41.780 that ecosystem into place so you can run it right and i think where they where these right now it's

00:43:47.620 for them getting together they have enough business people at the table cripes they're a party full of 0.86

00:43:52.180 business people they should be able to quite frankly sit down and say okay here's how this is going to go

00:43:57.140 here's how we're going to communicate here's how the strategy is if you know the whether they have

00:44:03.140 tech people on their team whatever their pr people how they all coordinate how it gets out who

00:44:08.820 monitors the messages what's the feedback who does the reporting of it those are all the things they

00:44:13.860 should be covering but yet they're not but so someone in the party said let's not even mention

00:44:19.700 this historic speech that's being you know applauded around the world by world leaders and everyone

00:44:26.020 so like it's like it didn't exist and we'll talk about these that was a strategy i mean if it was just

00:44:30.980 missed okay but that feels like a strategy dave in the marketing side of things for the conservative

00:44:37.460 party is saying stay the course with our messaging about taxation that's the most

00:44:43.780 stay with that stay with that while carny's out there okay but this week not the week to do that

00:44:50.100 no and then and then probably quite frankly there's sort of a set of pollsters who are behind them

00:44:55.700 telling them yeah that's going to emanate or that's going to work but again as we talked to before

00:45:04.900 take it with a grain of salt right go to the go to ground with the people right because i guarantee

00:45:10.020 you you know trump when he was doing his tour quite frankly probably was listening a little

00:45:16.180 bit to polls but probably really didn't give a right he probably doubtful he did i definitely did he

00:45:21.140 was just doing it by feel and touch as he was seeing the people and by being on that train and

00:45:25.860 going to those communities you're going to learn about those issues you're going to understand them

00:45:29.860 and you're going to adapt and i think that's the that's the that's the message and you know whether

00:45:35.460 whether it's the liberal party or the conservative party someone's got to do it and it's whoever gets

00:45:43.060 to it first and does it the best is the person that's probably coming out in the outcome elected

00:45:47.700 in the next at the at the outcome but if we've seen don't do it if we don't do it it'll be a free

00:45:52.580 for all and then quite frankly that's a shame for canada absolutely that probably means the you know

00:45:58.820 unfortunately our future is not as bright as we'd like i think mike so you go to a coffee shop anywhere

00:46:06.340 in canada right now and just chat with average people i could what do you think 90 95 are mentioning

00:46:13.780 what's happened this week in davos to the world forum i i would say that there wouldn't be a single

00:46:18.740 person in canada that has any view on the news did you see what pauliep tweeted about grocery prices

00:46:24.660 i doubt that's happening not really happened this week i'll tell you not this week do you remember

00:46:28.500 hazel hazel mccallion oh of course yeah hurricane hazel so yeah you know got to know her after a

00:46:36.420 purchase of a business and uh you know it's interesting she invited me one day she says i do

00:46:40.980 these coffee shop meetings and she would go around mississauga to these really meetings right and i

00:46:47.700 thought it was kind of wacky to tell you the truth independent not only in tim hortons but she'd pick

00:46:51.380 these locations and she'd just show up at the same day and just go if no one showed up she'd just grab a 0.77

00:46:57.060 newspaper and i just chat with people have a coffee and whoever came and talked to her and then what

00:47:01.860 happened was people started all to show up at the coffee shop right and then so she would go into 0.65

00:47:06.500 like a tim hortons there'd be like 80 people waiting for it was hey i i don't like my garbage i

00:47:11.060 don't like my rent i don't like this i don't like that and they'd be just blasting her and and she'd be 1.00

00:47:15.540 like she was so funny because she'd go okay sit down one at a time right here's what i'm doing on that

00:47:21.700 here's what i'm doing she'd have her girl beside her writing down all the issues right she'd go back 1.00

00:47:27.460 and she'd send a message to all her counselors you know you take care of that you take care of that

00:47:32.340 you take her you do this you do that it's and stuff got done didn't but that's leadership planning

00:47:38.340 and organization and understanding how to go to ground you know what's interesting is that what that

00:47:43.300 became i forgot about that paul yeah that was she became famous for that yeah yeah don't hear it would

00:47:48.980 talk about a hockey night in canada yeah yeah yeah she uh she was not young when she was doing

00:47:55.140 that she was no you know oh no she didn't even get a license in your 40s right oh yeah and she hung 1.00

00:48:00.900 in there for years and years remember when she was 80 she was biking from one of these got hit by a

00:48:04.900 car going to city hall on her bike yeah yeah i kept going to work yeah no no she was a trooper but

00:48:10.820 but that's what you know again that's that's the missing link in canada right now that's really to

00:48:16.660 your point the other day i was in uh my local convenience store and i think i mentioned this

00:48:20.660 to paul and i said to the gentleman behind the counter you know god willing and the creek don't

00:48:26.020 rise sometime in the next six months we'll get to sit down with danielle smith and get an

00:48:30.980 understanding of what's happening alberta and what her opinion is and you know kind of kind of hash it

00:48:35.860 out and see if it's a good idea and he said can i send a message to her oh this got this is in

00:48:41.700 southern ontario this is yeah this is in southern ontario he's got an interest in what she's going to do

00:48:46.420 okay his message by the way i will record it if i if i can get permission because he said i i would

00:48:51.780 like you to record it and send it to her okay show it to her if you meet her and i thought okay

00:48:56.340 but his message was beautiful his message was this i would have not voted for this prime minister

00:49:02.420 i would have voted conservative please take the opinion of a canadian that's new and loving this

00:49:09.780 country and he's been here for 25 years so he's not that new that i want you to work with our prime

00:49:15.300 minister i want you to work with our government because if you don't i can't vote for you and if

00:49:21.780 i'm in alberta that's how i feel and if i am looking at the national conservative party that's how i feel

00:49:27.300 and he said i'm conservative it's so difficult right now i think there's a lot of people from coast to

00:49:34.660 coast who maybe feel the same way don't just argue show us your plan yeah i love this idea getting into

00:49:41.220 the communities and saying okay we see what the prime minister is doing we don't agree with everything

00:49:45.540 we agree with some of it but we're focused on this and this is our strategy in this area

00:49:51.300 and actually get out there and because they do have some power in that parliament

00:49:57.620 if you're pushing your agenda along all the time you take the tile you look reliable and you go up to

00:50:04.100 the big nickel in sudbury or uh whatever and you're the shadow minister the conservatives and you're

00:50:09.540 actually at the coffee shop with the miners and asking them and talking to them and giving face

00:50:15.380 time wouldn't that make a big impact here's our plan give me your input yeah what do you think yeah

00:50:20.500 what do you think guys what are your top three problems here definitely they're going to tell you

00:50:24.020 they're going to tell you way more than you're going to learn being in ottawa go to a factory when

00:50:27.860 they have a shift change guys we're going to build this ring of fire out what would be a good

00:50:31.860 way to lay out a city here oh so let's say ring of fire okay yeah that's interesting so we talk

00:50:36.100 about the ring of fire we've had this discussion before are we serious about the ring of fire

00:50:41.060 well they are in china they bring they build mining cities all the time yeah there's but they're

00:50:45.940 serious right so within a year we've seen it right they they they get a million homes they

00:50:52.500 uh bring shopping malls shopping malls bowling out bowling alleys grocery so at the end of this

00:50:57.220 calendar year at the very least the the bare bones of a serious road to the mine should be laid out

00:51:04.420 right yeah and a plan and it was going to be there at least the housing camp whether it be

00:51:08.900 very rudimentary and then start building out from it yeah you creeps i remember years ago i watched the

00:51:14.260 the chinese in uh jamaica come in and they dropped containers they they actually needed jamaican for a

00:51:22.420 vote and nato and they cut this deal to build a convention center and they came in and they actually

00:51:28.660 brought all their containers dropped the containers unloaded the containers of construction supplies that

00:51:34.020 they couldn't get in jamaica and then converted them to a housing fortress lived in it with showers 0.83

00:51:39.940 and beds and cars and everything else built the built the convention center airlifted the containers

00:51:46.020 back out and left they were done they were done but they made up their mind and they made a commitment

00:51:52.660 and they went and did it right so a duck for the premier of ontario seems very serious hell-bent to get

00:51:58.100 it done and mark carney's talked about it so maybe with this cabinet meeting going in quebec city and

00:52:03.780 this thursday that's a big part of it is okay bank start cutting down trees laying down the roads

00:52:10.020 carving out a path and then this is where we're going to do this and this is we're going to do that and

00:52:14.420 show investors we're serious give a hiring incentive to get people to relocate up yes put up temporary

00:52:20.020 housing you know i you know last night i got two two phone calls one from an electrician and one from a

00:52:28.020 tile set or a tile guy um both looking for work really don't have any projects right now right if you

00:52:35.460 said to them they could leave and go and start working on that road crew tomorrow they would be

00:52:42.740 there tomorrow yeah you would have no problem they'd be gone they'd be gone they'd leave their family

00:52:46.900 they'd leave their wives and kids in school here and they'd be up in in the camps building whatever

00:52:51.620 they need to build i have a contractor friend they're doing work uh some of these it's called

00:52:55.940 the county for people who don't live in ontario prince edward county in east ontario because it's

00:53:00.820 become the second sort of cottage country and he says i have a lot of projects there because well

00:53:04.740 there's money there so i had to i have to ship my crews over there to do the work because they they

00:53:09.460 want the work yeah yeah so we'll go they're all traveling now oh yeah and you know paul we've discussed

00:53:15.140 this before as well that that is uh in some ways that's a badge of honor for these guys

00:53:21.700 you know if i built that yeah if you're in sudbury and you got called away to do a project someplace

00:53:26.100 and it's a major project that you can be proud of dad i saw this in tiktok yeah buddy i built that

00:53:32.260 i built that but that's part of the organization and commitment and plan that needs to be laid down by

00:53:37.540 someone yeah that'll give people the confidence we're moving out of this and the sector the middle

00:53:42.900 powers that would say hey look at this we'll invest in that i like what you're doing here yeah

00:53:49.460 yeah of course well we'll see at the convention what they do right i mean there may be an addendum

00:53:54.340 to this there may be an entire breakout on it i hope so too this is a huge thing for the conserves

00:53:59.700 a huge part in their history don't you think well this is the opportunity to change yeah survival of

00:54:04.740 the party they have to they have to show that they're attuned with the average canadian to get a board

00:54:09.540 to get a plan laid down to at least get moving that's a i never thought of that yeah it's survival

00:54:15.220 paul right yeah it is anything anything else and of course you know it's funny because we reach out we

00:54:23.140 to get media access to people and stuff like that it's very difficult they don't really like uh anybody

00:54:30.100 interviewing them that makes sense but that needs to open up a little bit more to have reasonable

00:54:34.580 conversations with people and share the share the opinions again i hate to use him as an example

00:54:40.500 because i know the last couple days he's walking on an airflow he's answering questions he's in an

00:54:47.700 airplane he's answering questions right your platform should not be something that you're hiding

00:54:55.220 your plan should not be embarrassing your thoughts on what should be moving forward for the country

00:55:01.460 should be openly shared as the leader of a country that's your job not just opposing what the other

00:55:07.140 guy's doing yeah you should be able to go into a coffee shop or a restaurant an airfield off a plane

00:55:12.900 and someone asks you a question stop and give them a straight answer whether they like it or not

00:55:17.780 that's the answer and that's why you elect people into power because they have the guts to to proceed

00:55:24.740 with the plan even when some people don't love it so say you go to the coffee shop and he rolls in

00:55:30.260 there whoever the politician is and starts chit-chatting having a conversation like you

00:55:34.420 said hazel mccallion did yeah you're like you know i may not agree with him but i think he seems like

00:55:38.260 a pretty decent person yeah that's it you talk about a likability like like regular person oh i'll

00:55:44.340 have some tim bits and a coffee please oh hey how's it going what do you do blah blah blah blah blah yeah

00:55:49.140 there's that fantastic scene in um darkest hour where gary oldman's playing winston churchill he takes the

00:55:55.540 subway and he starts going what do you do well we're going to need bricklayers to rebuild london what do you do

00:56:01.060 hey what do you think about this and all the people start talking to him and it was part of

00:56:04.820 his charm oh yeah yeah and he was like here's the prime minister of england of the war talking to

00:56:09.620 someone on the subway look at look at chen he would he'd have guys into the backyard sorry he'd have

00:56:15.220 guys into the backyard for a beer to talk about he would go missing from his security detail wandering

00:56:20.820 around the city which churchill used to get on a train ad hoc just because he didn't want to be

00:56:26.260 in parliament anymore and take a train across the nation and talk to people he just they'd be like

00:56:30.900 where are you going i'm just jumping on my train because he had his own train guys like hey i go

00:56:35.540 fast you want to golf with me we need someone for a foursome and you'd be like paul macucci i'm golfing

00:56:40.340 with kurchin he's like yeah come on and it's interesting but when when those people come

00:56:44.740 away from those experiences with a human that they've had a discussion with i mean you could

00:56:51.060 saddle up next to uh pauliev and say hey all you do is argue and have him say you know it's a strategy

00:56:57.700 we tried for a long time yeah we now have a plan i don't know if you've heard about it we have

00:57:02.100 transitioned we've pivoted but you know i used to come back to hazel for a minute and this is an interesting

00:57:06.980 uh test case you know her whole life you know amazing life in the end she built a city she 1.00

00:57:15.620 attracted the uh largest number of fortune 500 companies to come to her city with tax initiatives

00:57:24.180 and tax breaks and everything to set up and create a community that led to the building of a city

00:57:29.540 which is square one yeah the hershey center the hockey arena like you talked about all the stuff

00:57:37.060 yeah and now they're building the lrt line up highway 10 to go from mississauga square one all

00:57:41.380 the way up to brampton meadowville business park yeah it's all things that she had envisioned and it

00:57:47.380 was just through conversations and picking up the phone talking because if you can talk to the guy in

00:57:53.060 the coffee shop and also talk to the ceo you can figure out how to attach the two of them together

00:57:59.380 and that's the missing link with now with a plan on how to get canadians back i couldn't agree more

00:58:04.980 that is especially at this point in our history okay calgary we're coming your way yeah and we're

00:58:10.100 coming for that convention uh hopefully we'll come back with some very interesting discussions with people

00:58:15.780 and uh um get a little bit closer to the bottom line on what they're going to do policy wise

00:58:21.620 but i do agree it's do or die time and it will be fascinating to hear average conservatives talking

00:58:27.780 to you both when you're in calgary with their concerns and their thoughts and their ideas and

00:58:32.980 hopefully people listen to them well we'll listen to them yeah we know we will that's what we do here

00:58:37.780 yeah yep yep get the app check us out uh tplmedia.ca and by the way we operate on your support

00:58:46.820 don't hesitate thanks so much see you patriotic means looking out for each other and fixing things

00:58:55.060 together true patriotism is being in a country you love surrounded by people you love and great

00:59:01.300 weather being a patriot is being a part of your community and caring for it it doesn't matter who

00:59:05.460 you are or where you're from patriotism is the one thing we all share it's okay to be critical of

00:59:11.700 government and still be a patriot it's gratitude to your country of course i'm a patriot i'm canadian

00:59:18.020 it's my home well actually true patriot love is the mission

True Patriot Love - January 23, 2026

Trump's Strategy： Global Order Shifts

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