Trump’s 60-Day War Clock: Will Congress Stop the Iran War? | Jim, Paul & Mike
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As we take this show on Thursday afternoon, things are changing hour by hour with the war in Iran, through the persian gulf, the straight horror moves, and everything else going on, is always thrilled to be joined by Paul and Mike.
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as we take this show on thursday afternoon things are changing hour by hour with the war in iran
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through the persian gulf the straight horror moves and everything else going on is always
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thrilled to be joined by paul and mike and gentlemen this is uh an evolving story and
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an announcement from the pentagon today that it's not the four or five weeks that trump talked about
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the pentagon admitted this thing could last until september well i mean it seems difficult to
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believe that this kind of uh war theater would be set up for something that could happen in a couple
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of days uh almost every branch of military that the u.s can afford is out there in full force um
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and the reaction so far from iran leads me to believe that they're active you know what i mean
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and this is they're prepared for enough time out there that this seems reasonable you have a
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country of 90 million people with a huge stockpile of drones and ballistic missiles at different ranges
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conventional missiles to fire they have a huge military and yes they've killed some of the
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leaders but the general staff the head of the military is still very much in place and
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they seem very determined to keep hitting back at various targets throughout the persian gulf
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for as long as humanly possible well you know jim and mike so last night so and i wasn't surprised
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congress voted to halt the campaign yeah senate came out and 47 to 53 senate voted to continue right
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so that's the way it went it's very interesting because
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you know they're continuing in an environment where they only have so many days
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until the vote comes up to vote on funding in congress yes to move forward after 60 days
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yeah that's the uh we're now on a clock that's right well because they're spending minimum one
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billion dollars a day in theater in logistics and weapons and supplies and fuel it is a staggering
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amount of money and i can understand why they're gonna have a vote because the rest of america is
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like wait a second we're gonna run out of money but it is interesting paul how this operates and
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and uh it it's new to me as a canadian and certainly somebody who's never been in wartime first of all
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has there been a declaration of war because the u.s hasn't done that since world war ii
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i believe there was uh in um was it uh the first gulf war in 91 no was there not no they've never
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declared war officially since world war ii okay i thought so okay that's an interesting point of
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order on this because when he stand when the president stands in front of senator congress
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with these military actions they aren't an official declaration of war and i wonder if that has an effect
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but it's interesting to me because uh yeah i didn't realize once you get into these military
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actions you've got 60 days of runway and then the congress is likely going to vote you down
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spending any more money or losing any more a lot of republicans will join democrats and voting no
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yeah well polling so far has been very bad so they keep pulling this thing and uh jim and i were
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talking about on another show this morning so yesterday he was at 20 only four yeah uh today
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he's like 27 so he's not growing uh he's not getting a lot of support to do this and i think people
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thought you know the the the mainstream media fox other american channels did a lot of pr to try to say
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you know people dancing in the street people excited uh persians enjoying it you know celebrating
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uh rest of america is sitting going i'm not sure i want this and quite frankly i have food
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affordability issues congress is wondering so there's a little bit of conflict already border
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conflict going on within the u.s crumbling yes health care issues in america infrastructure crumbling
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you're being told you don't have money for this and don't have money for that have you seen the dow
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have you seen the dow it's up 50 000 points wow yeah traditionally traditionally you know after wars
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we've seen uh immigration from the countries that are war torn how are we going to handle that in
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north america it's a big issue across the whole world uh western europe everywhere in the north america
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we can't accept more people so this can go on to jim's point you can keep bombing you can keep doing
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all these things the problem is we don't have space for the iranian people so they can't come
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anywhere there's no infrastructure there's no social program so the more they bomb the hell out of
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iran and take down the infrastructure there where do they go the less likely these people are going to
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have a quick comeback and here's another thing the american people don't have a lot of stomach for
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so far it's been about approximately six casualties you know god bless them yeah fighting for
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in this cause you start getting more regular photos of young men and women as kia in theater in this
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the those numbers are going to plummet paul i don't think the americans have a lot of stomach for this
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i think you're right appetite for this and it's one thing to see um pete hexeth all jacked up on energy
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drinks showing a video of infrared weapons hitting a building but when you're actually seeing people
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in american uniform killed in action and being sent home in a box that's going to change the
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mindset of americans real quick you know we talked about the disparity in cost in this war between what
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iran has to spend to make a difference and what the u.s is spending on a daily basis you just pointed
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it out a billion dollars a day a bit yet so iran is firing a lot of drones that cost 50 60 000 and
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the patriot missile the actual missile that fires to intercept them is four or five million a missile
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missile a missile right and that adds up pretty quick jim in a hundred thousand square foot
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warehouse how many drones can i fit i don't know i get like 100 200 000 yeah something in that
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neighborhood so with that kind of firepower easily hidden easily stored and easily deployed up against
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missiles that cost a million million and a half dollars each to to shoot down a drone this war has
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this imbalance we haven't seen since vietnam when conventional fighting got into the jungle and
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troops were completely lost you know and think about the previous with the 12 day engagement where it
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was just stealth bombers going over and hitting key targets as he's he thought it claimed took out their
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ability to build nuclear weapons there was no casualties there was just 50 60 000 feet in the air
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dropping remote weapons and america's like oh well whatever uh but now you're seeing you know fighter
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jets being accidentally shot down by friendlies because the fog of war that happens you're seeing
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casualties being broadcast on the nightly news and you're like that might be someone from my hometown
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it's a little different now yeah i think also that sorry and i'm happy to pass this off but i think americans
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begin to start the process of working through why are we there why is it so important for america to be
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there fighting a proxy war on behalf of it what seems to be israeli intentions and i you know and i
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probably will take a lot of blowback for this but the truth is i think that question is going to be on
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the lips of almost everybody in america as this carries on day after day after day why are we doing
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this why are we putting our troops in this scenario why are we even there when we said no more wars
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well that was you know it's the case of uh nuclear weapons of course you know that was the mainstay of
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why they said then they wanted a change in uh government yeah that was the big one and we understand
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that listen not a great uh not a great guy we you know the the leadership needed change and needed
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but quite frankly at what cost and where are we going next yeah who are we getting now he doesn't
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see when you kill a guy's wife and his daughter and his father and you leave and he's remaining to
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be in power i'm sorry that's not a good starting point so if you're america you know look israel this
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is you want to do that okay we'll give you some weapons we'll give you some supplies logistics
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i wish you the best of luck we're not sending thousands and thousands of our men and women
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over there to fight it with you or we'll give you support you're on your own but also when the us is
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there they ramp up that war theater in a huge way well yeah that probably wouldn't be required
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otherwise because there was no nuclear weapons there was no bioweapons so far discovered we've
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been told that they've taken out those operations but the other thing is we've heard this for two
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decades now that they are 10 minutes away from a nuclear weapon that they are enriching uranium to
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a military grade for 20 years guys did they just get to it last week and finally pull it off is that
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what happened there's so many questions surrounding this thing you know john stewart was so brilliant
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what he does was at his very best this week he's like why the f is congress in the senate voting on
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thursday when the thing started saturday yeah well what what took them so long well everything's out
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of order what why right why why like we there are so many questions americans at all levels have one
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answered yeah and and they can't get a straight answer out of anybody but you know it's interesting on
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your point of this could go to september originally the thinking was it would be a short-term
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conflict so they would quickly go in they would take control of the leadership they would uh
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eliminate any weapons that's an easy spell for americans right away boom now it's looking like a
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different scenario based on uh this morning's announcement and to top that all off this being
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done in the middle where they quite frankly it's happening right now and might happen before the
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show's over they're finding out whether or not they can get funding back uh for the doj and for
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ice and for all the other programs so they have funding problems that the congress looks like
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based on last night's view was going to shut down uh which then steamrolls into a lack of security in
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the homeland which back in the united states which we heard today quite frankly there's a lot of
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statements going around on you know let's we're going to go side for a minute but on fifa like for
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example the u.s might not be hosting if today goes sideways you're 100 days out from fifa if exactly
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they can't get congress back on board to secure it well okay you already have european countries paul
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who are so upset at ice and what happened that there's a groundswell of fans saying boycott the
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world cup i saw that there is a movement yeah so now with this going on in iran and then there is a
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legit safety issue you are the head of the soccer association football association
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for pick the country are you comfortable sending your squad your team your coaches and your thousands
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of fans from your country there when you know there could be a threat that's a legit concern well the
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interesting part though it then falls back it looks like part of that will fall back to canada yes and
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then we might end up with 20 games jim but i mean i mean the amount of games that are played during the
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world cup the the logistics of figuring out how many games vancouver and toronto could
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could realistically handle it could be 20 25 30 i don't know because they were being spread at
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stadiums all around north america but then think about this for a minute and this is our original shows
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right number one we're 100 days out we're still scrambling we're in i'm just talking about toronto right
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now i haven't taken a look recently out west but we're scrambling towards getting there to be ready
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roads hotels and everything like that we're struggling a little then we'd have to sketchy
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stadiums we'd have to we'd have to house the players so we'd have to travel housing security
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then we have to come in we have to host the games number one no one's answered the question of
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whether we have funding fully for the games yet like that this always happens we're notorious in
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canada doing these things where we host things but we don't have the budget covered and then afterwards
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we go well that costs a little more than we thought we have a deficit and then everyone goes ah we have
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a deficit well we haven't really you know we we went through the budget for the federal government we
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went through the the city's budgets right we saw the shortfall we've never really had a discussion
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about it and now quite frankly we could be approached so yeah it's easy for us to say yes
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like we'll host them it's a huge undertaking it's a huge undertaking with a huge costume that quite
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frankly we don't have a province we don't have a province in canada that's not running a deficit right
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now from a federal perspective it looks like we're surpassing our 78 billion in deficits we're blowing
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through it oh yeah especially with gas no no but paul if it looks like at any cost we can be the good
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guys and save fifa you know we're going to take on that oh we will but that's a bigger you grace great
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points this is the big picture thing that the domino effect of what's going on here we are in march
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and we're wondering whether or not oh geez are they going to be able to stage world cup games in
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america in june so think about everything coming up in spring and summer at all the events and all
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the big events and all the gatherings and can you travel they do i just saw a report in australia where
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people were spending thousands and thousands of dollars over the ticket cost to get their family
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out of dubai back to melbourne yeah yeah and then that's a huge concern for there's still a lot of
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people stuck in different gulf states in the persian gulf guys just veering back to uh the pentagon this
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morning it occurred to me as you were talking about it paul that uh that was an an hour whoever
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brought it up that that announcement uh it almost flies this is interesting because to me it's the
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military flying in the face of the president that moment he told you weeks we're telling you months
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and i wonder you know if i was the president i'd be like i told them days why you'd you know like i'd
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be furious that the military was telling the truth but it was trump they do it in a
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scientific mathematical formula yeah they're telling they're like oh we realize what we're
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dealing with this is our enemy and this is like it's not going to be done in this amount of time
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they're just being truthful right well but it's interesting so that's a good point if you remember
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trump's first term in office so a little bit of that was the fission he he trusted through to the
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pentagon and he had quite a few people kind of turn on him yeah this time in government he's got a
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very close circle and he doesn't quite include through the state department and through the
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pentagon he's very close-lipped and he he holds a very tight group so there's there's a fracture when
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you get out of that absolutely group of people and he doesn't trust one of the lessons he learned in the
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first time in office is that didn't work for him very well it went sideways because there were a lot
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of people against him so a little bit of this is you have a little bit of a you know you have a stress
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fracture in that relationship and so you know you have a group that really wants to protect their
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back and wants to say hey this could take to september so i have to really watch it and he's
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saying two months or a month he listen he can't go more than 60 days because at the end of 60 days
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if the funding's pulled then he's got another war on his hands okay so he's done he's pulling out so 60
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days all of a sudden all that material and all those boats and everything head back home and you may
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not have accomplished your goal yeah may i remind you of something i never said war it's not a war
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we're continuing on it's a military i'll be sure to tell that to the the people in the bases when
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they're dodging drones and missiles incoming i just wonder if that's the that's one of these hard lefts
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that the white house can make because it does become a battle of uh congress and white house senate
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and white house at some point to say no we you're not getting more funding well think about it sorry
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just because we're sitting here what's what's gas at right now oh uh i mean uh 140 they said brent
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crude is trading at about 85 dollars a barrel yeah 185 up from 165 yeah yeah we were already doing the
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math like we're shooting up now you know we we are preparing for 150 160 a liter right now yeah and then
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next week maybe more yeah so we're on that we're on that we're now we're cruising up again you know
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a country that's supposed to be rich in oil and gas and we're we're on the climb but but so yeah
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the average american to pay more too well but americans have again less support i think that i think
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they're seeing through it quite frankly now the reason the polling is coming back coming back so poorly
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is they're seeing through it and they're like i'm not willing to absorb a spike in gas right now yes
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you better figure this out you told us no more wars you told us you weren't going to get involved
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around the world but that all ties to another a whole other issue and is that you can't have wars
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that you don't assume the resources of the country so we keep doing this like the americans are starting
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to get tired of they're like if you're doing this i think there's a decision point now you need to
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take control and we need to see some benefits so you're if you're going into venice well you got
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to come back and say you know here here's how many barrels of oil you're going to get back here's how
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many this makes this cheaper it makes that cheaper you got to go into iran and say here's what we're
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going to rent and the congress right now both sides are saying to him okay what's the plan
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because they're they're looking for him to this is money out money out money out it benefits the
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middle east how does it come back and the trump quote about an hour ago before we started trump
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expects to be quote involved in appointing iran's next leader now of course as the war in the middle
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east wraps up yeah but what is that so you know same as what jared kushner is going to be running it
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i mean so um but that is the that that to me is the quintessential point that they're looking when
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they're saying we need a plan for what happens after i think what congress is saying to him is
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are you going to take control of this and is this going to help us as a country because you really
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need to tell us the history of america doing that it's very very poor it is if you look at the last
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hundred years every time they've tried something like that to install a leader it's blown up in their
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face iraq afghanistan i mean and and like south america central america right el salvador all those kind
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of places like that all those countries and this is we're talking about a massive country that borders
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pakistan and india like it's 90 million people it's not it's not like a small country with a million
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people in ireland this is not that easy to take control and govern think it like it that's you're
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asking a lot highly motivated to hang on to power in that country um yeah i'm sure for every reason so
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the average person there is like yeah i'd like peace and democracy and a new leader but how do
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you get from that to the as you say mike the huge contingent of powerful people have been running it
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for decades who do not want to give it up no and it's and they're ingrained in every aspect of industry
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and investment and trade in that country because it was all centralized so to decentralize that to your
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point that's a major hassle it's like the bank okay the bank doesn't really want to take your
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home if you can't pay your mortgage no that's a hassle they don't want well by the way iran is
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playing world cup games in the united states scheduled as endless changes i'm pretty sure
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that they're one of the world cup soccer nations i hope that list is done in pencil because i have a
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feeling some changes and i and i think to your point that there's going to be world reactions
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certainly out of the european oh uh some of the european countries that they're not happy why would
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they we gotta boycott this so what why would japan and south korea what like they're facing dire
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consequences for their oil and diesel and gas and liquid natural gas like what are you doing here
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it's tell me a country right now not be affected by this there's not many no as this drags on as you
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pointed out uh many countries are drying up of liquid natural gas they are drying up of oil reserves and
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uh you know processed petroleum um fertilizer is going to be twice as expensive south right south
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korea is days away from running out of liquid natural nine days they got nine days india is in another
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situation so the ramifications of this globally are really this there should never have been in my
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opinion the concern of the usa because the impact globally not to mention when you close the strait
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of humus it leaves a lot of issues for countries like china that we are already sort of sketchy with
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with russia that is definitely on the opposition side of things with the us there's a lot of poking
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the bear going on here one of the things i've heard proposed from the bbc was they would have warships
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escort tankers in and out of the gulf through the strait of humus like the canadian navy did with
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escort convoy ships to england that's a very dangerous job and guess what when they fire a
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missile on a drone it can't tell whether it's a canadian or nato flagged or whatever ship and a
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tanker innocent you know there'll be collateral damage there's no question especially when you can
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send 2 000 of them at the same target and 150 150 at the price of and something to defend it no one can
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tell anyone if they will actually ensure any of these massive tankers full of oil out of there right
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so the the us has stepped up over the last 24 hours now i don't know what guarantee but they're saying
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they're going to guarantee and backstop those tankers do they have the money for that well that's
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that's the whole thing see that's the 60-day congress conundrum that i'm talking about they
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at some point what they're saying is you got to disclose how this ends how we get paid back yeah
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how the money comes like it a lot of this is you know everyone's being fairly polite at this point
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because they're trying to be you know they understand the tragedies over in iran previously they get it
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but what's starting to happen is people are asking the question is what next how do we get our money back
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and just before this quite frankly you know it was forced it was shadowed you know the ice the doj
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yeah i think even the christy gnome yes it's just from a place going into this just before i started
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yeah yeah she's gone so there you know a lot of things that were happening are changing it's very
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dynamic but people are starting to say you know if you want the 60 days you got the 60 days so that's
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what you get but you better have a solution for this coming out of it and right now we don't know
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what that is and quite frankly i think that it's going to wind up being differently than i think
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the next shock we're going to get is his announcement of what they're going to do because i think these
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are the these are the uh unfortunately he's getting pushed into a corner he's got to make some decisions
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of how they get their money back and therefore they're going to be a little surprised of the outcome
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of what iran looks like going forward so i i think maybe a lot of people jumping on being excited good
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for them i know the dictator's gone um but now reality said again there's a lot of reality here
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that i think a lot of people need to understand and and get their head around it's going to be
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differently than what they think think about the last 60 days um the ice the killings the riots the
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uprising you know everything going on there to the epstein files and now this a lot of americans
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are like screw this maybe what the hell is going on made me laugh the other day when uh trump gave
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his analysis of what was going on with uh iran and he was quite proud of himself and uh one of the
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reporters as soon as he was done he said okay i take questions and one of the reporters said that was
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a nice story back to the epstein files and he went i don't want to talk to you you know what i mean
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so like a lot of americans will still have a lot of questions there's there's connections being made
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now that by the end of next week i promise i will examine but this war makes no logical sense to me
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for the americans to have taken on their shoulders because what is the benefit to them i don't see it
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jim they need money they need this they need that how do you recoup any of this is a great question well
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that was the you know that was the uh ceiling cap the debt ceiling cap that they were hitting again
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which you know we were just not even a year ago we were the government shut down they were already
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at that place now they're shutting down part of their government again a part that's essential when
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you're a war because they are hitting ceilings again like we can't you know and was supposed to
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be a business savvy government that put tariffs on to pay back debt to get themselves down to a
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sustainable level they're not doing that and they lost on the supreme court when it came to tariffs
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and then if memory serves was there not a wealthy texan who paid the salary of border agents because
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they weren't getting paid yeah that's true they stepped up and they they did it for so many weeks
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you know to to help out but that no longer exists no so now you know it's again we're on a short fuse
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timeline unfortunately a private citizen paid yes the border security and along in the praxis arizona
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area in new mexico yeah yeah yeah so they could get paid to keep banning the border stations yeah
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because they didn't want to open it you know arizona being so close to the mexican you know that's
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part of the whole net nancy guthrie story and they're saying now part of that was yeah an offshoot
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of her being kidnapped and taken over to the mexican border and there's a whole bunch of uh you know
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stories unfortunate to that unfortunate situation but you know it's just so america has proven over
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the years that if it's if it's something righteous if it's something for the the for the greater good
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they talk about the greatest generation the fight against you know the imperial japanese military after
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the bomber harbor harbor and then the fight against nazi germany you had war bond drives and you know
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factories working 24 7 the whole country was part of it because it was for the greater good for
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freedom and democracy if you you have to convince the americans they got lied to in vietnam they
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get lied to in iraq right so they're like they lived through the iran uh contra scandal don't don't piss
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on my leg and tell me it's raining like i want to know what's going on here and that's the economy
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right they need to address the the economic situation they're in and if they're going to be in this war any
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longer they need to just he's going to have to disclose how they get their money back and how
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they benefit from it and you know that's a story that hasn't been told yet so you're an average
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american you're like i barely had enough money to feed my family this week and they're blowing a
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billion dollars a day imagine that's something i'm not sure when he realizes that clock is ticking
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and i'm not sure that he does realize that i often wonder what he knows about his job
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i promise you it'll be three billion a day because he's just going to do everything he can
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to annihilate that country so yeah that's fine i don't disagree and we understand that what do you
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do with the people see the challenge is that this this is the next thing that's coming and i'm not
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trying to add bad to bad but quite frankly you can bomb the heck out of that country how many 90 million
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90 million where are they going but they're not going anywhere there's no room for them anywhere
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right now so quite frankly you have to rebuild it yeah you whatever you bomb it and whatever you destroy
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of it those people are in camps those people are short of uh groundwater they're short of drinking water
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there's a number of things you're stuck with at the end that you're going to have to do and then
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and like we're we're a testament to that we're a society right now that we are uh infrastructurally
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challenged in canada yeah we can't ship any more people in we know that we tried that right we try
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to kind of try to keep bringing a million keep bringing a million next thing you know nothing
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was working right with traffic and so we had to catch up before we could take more in but we're
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five years before we can at least five years before you can't leave a scorched dirt there yeah because
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the humanitarian issue that's left behind where do they go is untenable for the us they can't go to
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france no they can't go to britain in the uk they can't go where can they go so the dead of summer
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in tehran you're looking at 40 45 celsius every day yeah and if their power grid's down and the
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infrastructure is down there will be all these people dying from heat yeah like it hit the the
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the desalinization and purification plans and yeah um i i this is a classic example of an individual
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who did not think this through i mean maybe benjamin notanyahu thought it through
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because he was able to convince all trump to do this but i'm not sure that donald thought it through