True Patriot Love - Trump’s Empire Plan Exposed

00:00:00.000 with the recent moves a donald trump has made and the u.s in taking nicolas maduro it signals

00:00:10.400 something that we noticed a few weeks ago here at tpl that's that there's a new defense strategy

00:00:15.720 that really needs to be looked at that donald trump is already adhering to did he do something

00:00:21.700 legal in venezuela apparently it doesn't matter to talk more about this man on the scene as i like

00:00:27.820 to think when it comes to these things uh paul micucci thanks for having this discussion with me

00:00:32.180 i appreciate it yeah very very interesting times mike for sure and you know you made a great point

00:00:37.660 so you know when this happened we all woke up saturday morning and turned on our tvs and it took

00:00:43.400 me like 45 minutes i sat there and you know i usually have my morning coffee and get ready to go

00:00:48.840 to the gym and i'm sitting there and i'm uh listening and i'm thinking is this for real

00:00:53.200 you know and about 45 minutes later i i went and sat in front of the team i thought wow this

00:00:58.200 really happened he did really go in and get the president of venezuela and and bring him out

00:01:03.100 to new york uh and it all had happened overnight it seemed almost like um he overthrew a country

00:01:10.800 and it wasn't within his reach to do so and actually that's where this conversation started

00:01:17.300 because literally the next day i'm on the phone to you saying i don't even know if this is legal paul

00:01:22.680 like i don't know if he should have been able to do this well but but he did you know as you alluded

00:01:27.240 to in the opening he did give us notice before christmas and you know we did uh it was interesting

00:01:34.280 you were out of the studio i i called you and i said you gotta you gotta read this national uh defense

00:01:40.600 strategy because it's really wild and they just released it to the public and uh i said i'm gonna get

00:01:46.560 christoph to voice it over from the western hemisphere's perspective right you know western

00:01:52.580 hemisphere for everyone being in the americas right south america north america um and i said

00:01:57.920 you really need to to listen to this because it is very wild that he had actually said that he was

00:02:03.780 going to uh follow the monroe doctrine right and do this so you know what we're witnessing and you're

00:02:10.380 hearing it throughout the news and different podcasts is we are uh watching basically a republic

00:02:16.680 become an empire when you said that to me this morning i wanted to you know you want to say

00:02:22.880 hold on a sec but really in the end that's what's happening here and and you'll go i'm sure back in

00:02:30.600 history yeah uh where this has happened before the new caesar he feels like he might be the new caesar

00:02:36.380 sure well he's he's you know he's done this and he did do it without consulting his congress i need

00:02:42.360 to ask you about that if you don't mind do you mind if we just push pause right there sure how is he

00:02:47.260 able to just seemingly sidestep congress getting an opinion on whether or not he takes the leader of

00:02:54.040 another country whether the leader is meant to be deposed or not well so you know uh u.s politics

00:03:00.980 a lot larger in number of people for sure it's 535 uh politicians involved in the system 100 senators

00:03:09.900 and 435 house reps the congress per se right he controls both so quite frankly he's centralized power

00:03:18.840 in the presidential suite because he right now he controls the senate and the congress and so and he

00:03:24.940 he rules it with a very iron hand you know if you go against him you're out if you don't like what

00:03:30.680 he's doing you're out and that is controlled through funds of uh uh election financing right

00:03:38.340 so quite frankly if if he doesn't think you he wants you in the congress or the senate he'll move

00:03:44.840 that funding around to other members and other campaign and start about your campaign so a lot

00:03:49.460 of it's done in uh it's a heavy-handed uh way of doing it but that is american politics in a lot of

00:03:55.320 ways it's canadian politics too but but not as much we don't have all the same things so

00:04:00.540 the power resides in the presidential office now the it is the uh executive office that now makes the

00:04:08.440 decisions in this government again that's why people are you know saying it's an empire because

00:04:13.660 an empire is controlled by a single person um and and elections then become really key because

00:04:22.000 that that presidential person that steps into that power is really going to direct your country

00:04:28.500 you know substantially now an election in the in the case of uh the usa an election could actually

00:04:36.480 leave sort of a split congress the house could be split but in this case and right for the moment for

00:04:43.120 this presidential run he has a runway that he can get on at any time it seems well and by the time he gets there

00:04:51.620 quite frankly the world will change so in three years the world is going to substantially change

00:04:56.040 the electoral will change you know the number of immigrants in the u.s is declining you know that's

00:05:01.620 the last night we're watching on the news you know the the things going on in minnesota and the people

00:05:07.860 being deported and uh you know as ice goes in and takes people out and removes people it's changing

00:05:13.780 right they're his uh doctrine uh in the home uh in the united states is changing significantly and

00:05:21.080 that's going to change the electric of the of the united states yeah which then could substantially

00:05:25.760 increase their chances of winning another majority government in uh both chambers unless he does

00:05:31.960 something so devastating that you know popular vote yes changes dramatically yes yeah but but that's where we

00:05:41.220 are for now so now but if he cleans up immigration yeah and he brings more jobs home and the economy 0.94

00:05:47.300 ticks up just a little bit which it did you know it did before christmas he's uh you know record

00:05:52.540 increase in gdp right yeah so it's hard to say that that's not a that's not a good approach as a president

00:06:01.420 that he seems to be doing what he said he was going to do i don't think personality wise everybody likes

00:06:06.660 him i'm certainly not a huge fan of his personality i think diplomacy works a little nicer but

00:06:11.960 this seems to be his method yeah it is well you know and look at venezuela so let's take this because

00:06:18.240 i think you know going back to that we really want to take a look at the monroe doctrine so

00:06:22.780 you know we heard about it before christmas they came out with it and they said okay

00:06:26.720 in the western hemisphere here's basically what we're going to follow and the monroe doctrine was a

00:06:33.000 doctrine from 1823 um and now in its modernized form i'm just going to read this for a minute

00:06:39.960 it uh updated doctrine asserts u.s uh premises in the western hemisphere aiming to exclude

00:06:48.740 non-hemispheric powers particularly china and russia so there you go so you know he

00:06:56.300 you know when they went into venezuela for the first time he didn't talk about the safety or

00:07:05.420 democracy he basically talked about the fact that he wanted to control the oil and it wasn't and it

00:07:13.940 wasn't it wasn't hidden no he didn't he didn't sugarcoat it i said to you i'm a genius i know what's

00:07:19.500 going on here it has nothing to do with narco terrorism it's really that he wants this oil and

00:07:25.300 you just nodded at me like yeah we all know that yeah well and you know but that's because he said

00:07:30.160 it he took it already but you remember in the middle east it was always you know they used all

00:07:34.580 these in years past these guys explanations of why they had to insert themselves in the middle east

00:07:40.200 it was about oil right so this time he said we're going after the oil in a government that's corrupt

00:07:45.820 exactly and he wants china out of that equation so he in the western hemisphere he does not want

00:07:55.420 the venezuela oil to be controlled by the chinese well he's going to use it i think in america oh

00:08:01.120 yeah of course he is he's going to use in america and he's going to sell it honestly he's going to sell

00:08:04.580 it to the chinese he's always said that yeah but he's not selling it at a discount and he's not

00:08:08.820 letting it go through the channels that they currently have no which has been heavily corrupt

00:08:12.480 exactly and he says that about russia also so you know now kind of bring that back because that has

00:08:19.600 canadian implications right so on the same on our you know we're in the western hemisphere too

00:08:25.860 you know we're in north america so you know it does have ramifications for us because this is kind

00:08:32.280 of signaling to where he wants things to go so he wants control of major resources that are being sold

00:08:39.920 to china or to russia and this is he said that point blank well look at the position we're put into

00:08:46.780 now he's got all the oil he needs for anything diesel all heavy oil heavy crude arriving to his

00:08:54.300 country driving down the price of in the market that we need to sell into dramatically i mean when you get

00:09:02.100 oil for free it's hard to compete with that yep and i get it it's reparations for what had happened

00:09:07.460 event as well but that instantly has a huge dynamic in that marketplace there's no two ways about it

00:09:13.320 canada is going to suffer this so now we need to go to other countries and right now as we record this

00:09:17.960 i believe our prime minister is either in or on the way to china in that document that trump put out the

00:09:26.320 new national defense strategy it basically says our partners in this hemisphere will not do business

00:09:34.660 with russia will not do business with china meanwhile we're there trying to set up new trade channels

00:09:40.720 and being told this by the u.s how does that sit well the second part of the the monroe doctrine

00:09:47.520 uh is control strategic assets infrastructure and supply chains so they come right out and and they say in

00:09:55.240 this document they you're going to trade with us at our pricing it will be higher but the price of

00:10:04.160 safety and security is worth it and the fact that we're in the western hemisphere as your strategic

00:10:10.120 partner you'll trade with us right so a lot of that trade with other nations and you know whether it

00:10:16.860 be europe china australia again you know do you mind if we follow that trail for a second sure just one

00:10:24.080 sec so now we've starved we're starved out of the marketplace in the u.s by oil coming in from

00:10:30.760 venezuela we're not allowed to trade with china or russia maybe that goes to the u.s but we're not going to

00:10:35.760 make money on that yes where does that leave us economically in this in this culture of uh hemispheric

00:10:42.920 control you know i hate to and i traditionally don't really uh agree with much of premier evie's

00:10:49.580 sentiments but quite frankly you know he had he had an interesting concept the other day and he said

00:10:54.840 you know which i've uh been a big fan of for years build a refinery in canada and start to sell

00:11:00.720 uh your oil inland well the other thing that somebody pointed out that's a fantastic solution if we start

00:11:06.960 to use our own oil that's that's a massive boost for our our nation yeah and the other thing in that

00:11:13.780 is okay if we don't have the right fuel uh refining done or we don't have the right oil it doesn't

00:11:20.320 prevent us from trading with other nations uh commodities you know that doesn't have to be a

00:11:25.580 purchase made there can be actual barter made between countries of uh well our fuel is good for this and

00:11:32.120 your fuels needs are the so that i still think is is a possibility sail into those markets and long-term

00:11:40.660 deals into china and russia i think the main concerns right yeah it all depends again anything

00:11:46.440 outside of the western hemisphere whoever we're dealing with uh they want they want a view on

00:11:52.100 yeah so the u.s wants an active view into um you know the last key point is use military economic and

00:12:00.700 diplomatic pressure to enforce alignment so the question you had before about you know the fact

00:12:07.180 that he didn't uh he didn't consult congress before going into venezuela he moves uh on colombia

00:12:15.000 with statements you know and now i notice this morning they're having conversations um in uh

00:12:21.380 greenland and they're having conversations in colombia with the president right now so he's actively

00:12:26.680 moving forward saying this is what i can do this is the alignment i want align or i will actively move

00:12:35.480 through the following so whether it's sanctions whether it's military i will align and so even to

00:12:41.380 the point of you know i'll find a way to illustrate your government as corrupt and remove the current

00:12:48.480 infrastructure yeah that's the threat that's out there i you know regardless of what anybody thinks

00:12:53.520 that's the threat that he now has in his back pocket venezuela is also a calling card and don't forget

00:12:59.300 what i did in venezuela i'll do it here too yeah and he's you know he's left a lot of the

00:13:04.360 infrastructure of venezuela and the politicians in place um telling them basically you better make

00:13:10.060 this work now as i guide you through it or else you know we will start to remove people but he's

00:13:15.900 you know he's learned from the middle east some of the lessons that they've made mistakes on

00:13:20.180 and he's not going in and just wiping out the whole regime and trying to put a new one in

00:13:24.600 so i think there's some lessons learned we'll see how that goes but as you look at this you're saying

00:13:31.200 okay so now gone into venezuela and you've aggressively taken over you you've used the

00:13:38.320 monroe doctrine you've enacted it you've gone in um just like you said you would but does that put

00:13:45.900 you at conflict in other regions now you would think probably it does so russia ukraine uh china

00:13:53.180 taiwan so is it really so now you're looking at you're thinking to yourself should you even be 0.97

00:13:59.720 there if this is not your hemisphere exactly and and are you kind of sucking and blowing because 0.83

00:14:04.860 you know you just went in and did what you did they've kind of done the same thing in their

00:14:10.920 hemispheres yeah or are doing the same things and so quite frankly puts him a little bit at odds on

00:14:16.820 the next move so and i think the criticism that he has to watch out for is okay now let's pull out

00:14:24.100 of here because we're here the other interesting part of this which i thought nato and you know

00:14:31.000 there's a lot of discussion from other members saying you know as long as they follow international

00:14:36.160 law and all this stuff you know he's he's willing you know in a statement uh yesterday uh you know i'll

00:14:44.360 you know i'll work with nato i'll make contributions to nato but i'm not obligated to nato yeah i'm not

00:14:54.400 beholden to nato's decisions because certainly not in his hemisphere his empire exactly so he's very

00:15:02.820 uh blunt about it he's been uh you know and i think this morning it was interesting and i should

00:15:09.120 have brought it with me and i'll put it up on the show he he published or they published a list the u.s

00:15:14.340 government a list of uh associations and companies that they will no longer support or be associated

00:15:22.520 with which was very interesting because it's a very hard line in the sand right yeah they're saying

00:15:27.960 okay we're not we're no longer gonna abide by this this this this this association um and it all had

00:15:33.960 around you know uh china decoupling it was a lot of that had to do with which is a huge part of the

00:15:41.040 national defense strategy exactly a very big uh and uh basically uh forcing uh allies within the western hemisphere

00:15:52.720 to work cooperatively on trade so it's it's starting to you know you're starting to see a clear path

00:16:00.160 and a clear decision matrix there the other one that we don't talk about which we should be talking about

00:16:05.180 in the defense paper the national security strategy they do talk specifically about

00:16:11.020 arctic sovereignty so they're very they're very you know they emphasize uh the freedom of navigation

00:16:18.940 and hemisphere control provides a framework under which the u.s military and commercial vessels could

00:16:24.640 trans uh transit the northwest passage without any consent right so it allows them access around the

00:16:33.320 entire hemisphere yes because they're allowed of course ushwaya uh at the bottom is their net last 1.00

00:16:39.520 outpost i believe and that gives them a full uh protective uh moat if you will around the hemisphere

00:16:46.860 right so that's you know the discussion now on greenland i think uh marco rubio is actually

00:16:52.260 there this week or next week uh to start the discussion on moving forward for the acquisition

00:16:59.420 or takeover of greenland or he's in denmark i think he went to oh yeah i believe that and so

00:17:05.580 what do you think just what's your feeling greenland goes with this or 100 yeah 100 i don't think there's

00:17:11.800 any i think there's a there's a very nice blunt conversation uh and i think greenland is moving

00:17:19.500 they feel like they're moving in the direction of accepting it to be honest with you it's been

00:17:24.860 i mean it's not not of the the general public but of the the economy forecast for them is so much

00:17:33.560 better in this that it it's hard not to look at it but the truth is i don't know that greenlanders

00:17:39.820 overall are thrilled if he does this what does that mean for canada well it definitely means more

00:17:45.960 arctic control right so it does mean quite frankly that there'll be more involvement and uh you know we

00:17:53.180 have the outstanding issue of oil as you mentioned whether it's uh you know alberta and quite frankly

00:18:00.160 alberta has a lot of issues right now that they have to deal with um you know they they understand

00:18:05.260 that uh every every barrel of oil that is actually made in venezuela impacts them right and you know

00:18:12.580 the show you did with dan was very interesting if the price of oil falls any further we're out of the

00:18:18.920 game we're we're definitely out of the game so and there's no point drilling i mean our even some of

00:18:23.680 our facilities are failing now because there's not the money to put into scaling them or even repairing

00:18:29.580 them yes so uh it's a frightening time but the empire building that we're seeing going on is

00:18:36.860 happening really quickly paul yeah so you know i think that's where we have to watch caesar would be

00:18:42.100 impressed caesar would be impressed but you know the speed of which uh you know empires are built

00:18:47.840 are you know only are curtailed by the ability to to move and commute and nowadays quite frankly you

00:18:55.500 know the the transportation and the vehicles and the military force that they have assembled you know

00:19:02.360 look how fast they got into uh just outside of venezuela you know what moments 11 you know 11 warships

00:19:10.480 yeah you know landed the you know and that was to that was to land 200 people for an invasion to get

00:19:16.560 a president uh on a late night incursion so you know how fast could they it feels to me like they

00:19:22.920 were ready to do it and then curtailed it by several hours or days a couple days and then went for it again

00:19:29.140 so they they actually how quickly they could even pivot to do this was remarkable yeah yeah so i think the

00:19:36.740 speed with which you can move your military is the speed with which you can enact so quite frankly

00:19:43.360 you know if they have a discussion with greenland and that doesn't go well you know do they just start

00:19:48.020 to move military towards greenland and then at that point they say okay you know we're going to shut

00:19:53.780 off some supply chains to you we have nick maduro on the phone he wants to tell you something yeah yeah

00:19:58.820 yeah well that you know and that's that's an interesting an interesting case but but i think we have to

00:20:05.040 as canadians start to pay attention to it you know we we i think we start off with tariffs and that's

00:20:10.560 why before christmas when the national security uh paper came out uh the strategy you know i said we

00:20:17.360 really have to pay attention to this and you know it's over christmas i was talking to people oh you

00:20:21.400 know don't worry about it you know tariffs and i'm like i don't think we're at tariffs now no we've

00:20:26.460 kind of moved beyond that yeah tariffs are one piece of it trump has the ability to uh in advance

00:20:33.120 right in front of your face lay landmines yeah tariffs were one of the landmines sure another

00:20:39.280 one was uh the drug trafficking and and the uh the crime in canada right there's another landmine

00:20:45.040 and you just and you know that those are going to come up because i don't think he has the capacity

00:20:50.480 to think outside the box of what his actual plan is and he can't keep quiet about it long enough to

00:20:56.320 actually execute it i'm sure they have to tie him down when they're doing military uh maneuvers but uh

00:21:02.080 uh he does give you the clues you know like i'm gonna do this we're starting with tariffs yes nobody

00:21:10.080 wants tariffs but i we can't do it for free anymore yeah so we're being told you can't have free security

00:21:15.280 anymore canada he means it yeah well end of end of free security was one of the uh strategy issues uh

00:21:25.520 you know coming in and protecting countries and putting all the money into nato and doing all this

00:21:30.240 that's over now yeah right and so you know we're kind of slowly saying okay we got to put money into

00:21:36.480 defense we have to our pace has to if we're gonna keep our sovereignty and we're gonna keep uh going

00:21:43.840 as canada as we are today we have to speed our our defense strategies we have to figure out some

00:21:51.440 leadership with respect to oil and gas and whether it's refining or pipeline like i think we got caught

00:21:57.440 up and waiting we're like okay no no it's gonna happen we sit around sucking our thumbs all the 0.84

00:22:02.960 time this is not the moment i i think we thought okay this isn't gonna happen and you know he published

00:22:09.520 this paper we all read it we all went for christmas everyone took a break came back he didn't take a

00:22:15.920 break so i don't know if people noticed so like you know that venezuela you know the capture of the

00:22:22.880 president was i think i read somewhere it was originally scheduled for christmas day good god

00:22:29.920 yeah no it sounded like it had been rescheduled yeah around and because of weather it got rescheduled

00:22:35.760 okay so there was there was so his original plan was no we work 365 here to make this hemisphere

00:22:41.360 yeah yeah they were working straight through the holidays to get there that's you know they're

00:22:45.520 so in the new year i think you know probably i'd have to say the summer they were probably planning

00:22:54.720 this so last summer they were probably putting it into play uh the paper the strategy was being written

00:23:01.120 and so the layout of what's going to happen next is is in play so for those people who are seeing

00:23:09.520 i'm saying well i you know what's going to happen next they'll just decide i i really don't think it's

00:23:14.160 going to happen that way i think it's it's laid out for those of you who get a chance we'll put on

00:23:19.040 our site read the 2025 u.s national security strategy please print out a map in fact we you know what

00:23:28.160 we'll make one available there too yeah the western hemisphere the western hemisphere map because you'll see

00:23:33.760 my first thought when i looked at that map was we could be self-sufficient we have all all the food

00:23:40.000 all the oil all the all the minerals all the the uh you know advanced societal uh comforts that we need

00:23:48.880 in that hemisphere it doesn't seem unreasonable in my mind now that i've taken a look at what's

00:23:55.040 available within our own ecosystem if we do it this way right but think about it for a minute mike

00:24:01.760 the us sat down they created a uh national security strategy they published it they've uh planned it

00:24:11.920 executed part of it we have to do the same so we need a strategy for ourselves we need an execution plan

00:24:20.480 and we need to move why aren't we moving in tandem with the us and saying okay look we want to keep our

00:24:25.280 sovereignty what do you need from us to keep everybody happy instead we go and we fight i don't

00:24:30.080 understand or we ask for deals are we wait in line for economic uh uh reparation of our our tariffs

00:24:37.760 like well we think this is only about tariffs that's the problem i think i think we're a little bit

00:24:43.600 blindsided thinking this is just a tariff discussion this is a kuzma discussion it's it's bigger than

00:24:50.000 those so the control of the western hemisphere is their objective it's not singly focused on tariffs are a

00:24:57.920 tool but that's not the single discussion i think that's where we're missing you know

00:25:03.600 missing the forest for the trees what will what will be convincing on this paul is if they start

00:25:08.400 to pull out of their middle east interests which they kind of like even in even in israel right now

00:25:15.120 they have what seems to be a quiet silence in the ukraine he's not exactly always getting along with

00:25:21.840 zelinski it almost feels like maybe he will start to withdraw from some of these places what are your

00:25:28.000 thoughts on that so it's interesting you say that because in the strategy paper so it argues that the

00:25:33.920 middle east should no longer dominate us for us foreign policy as u.s energy position improves and

00:25:41.040 uh conflict dynamics change so it basically says we shouldn't focus on the middle east so as you're

00:25:46.560 saying it you're noticing it yeah the paper talks about it says don't don't be so concerned over

00:25:51.840 there in our own hemisphere we have everything we need uh seek strategic stability with russia

00:25:58.880 and an expedited end to the ukrainian war to reduce escalating risk and stabilize europe

00:26:05.360 and then we go home yes

00:26:10.960 so he's spelling it out he's spelling out what he's doing he you know whether it be

00:26:15.200 africa middle east europe asia he's spelling it out he puts it right he puts it in the strategy

00:26:21.520 paper he tells you where he's going and he's going is that still posted by the way christophe

00:26:26.320 the uh your read through of that yeah i'm going to recommend people go and have a listen to it because

00:26:31.120 and the document is there as well because you're right it seems to be the roadmap for trump and and for

00:26:37.760 his empire well again now it's an empire he doesn't have to go back to congress

00:26:42.960 he's told congress what this is just super you know just for the viewers he's told the congress

00:26:51.200 his strategy here it is no one said no it's published here we go here we go and you know

00:26:58.640 having spent time lived in the u.s did business the one thing i admired all the time is strategically

00:27:05.360 when they decide to go in a direction they do go in a direction very rapidly right yeah unlike canada

00:27:12.000 which you know we have regulations and red tape and we tend to spend a lot of time schmoozing about

00:27:17.200 why or if it's the best thing to do and we kind of argue and debate a lot we then end up doing it but

00:27:22.720 you know we're not aggressively moving in an execution mode when we get a strategy and play

00:27:28.080 that's not our culture well you have to admit the last 10 years wouldn't give somebody with this

00:27:32.640 strategy a lot of confidence that their neighbor to the north is ready to participate do you know what i

00:27:39.120 mean if i was trump and i was putting this plan out and this was my strategy and i looked to canada

00:27:44.320 and i saw the last 10 years of what we've done to ourselves here i would be a little nervous to to

00:27:50.400 be doing business with us yeah well the signaling coming out of the u.s as far as you know the last

00:27:55.760 10 years are aren't great right because you know they do talk about you know i was listening to ron

00:28:01.360 de santis uh the other night uh he was talking about canada and the trudeau era and you know

00:28:08.080 talking about marxism and all kinds of you know i didn't agree with what he was saying but you know

00:28:13.040 that's obviously that's the perception that it's in his speak and it's you know they are talking that

00:28:18.160 way more and more and more you're hearing about it they're hearing about our coupling with you know

00:28:23.440 china and so you know they're talking about it it's it's it's on their radar they're thinking about

00:28:29.040 it yeah yeah uh okay well look this is uh an interesting thing and i think we'll probably

00:28:34.240 keep an eye on this this this document seems to be the road map that we need to keep an eye on

00:28:38.960 yeah uh as canadians as well so um i appreciate you taking me through it and having this discussion

00:28:44.800 because my first thought was hey donald trump can't just go and do that as it turns out that's

00:28:50.560 the strategy build an empire build an empire thanks paul thanks

True Patriot Love - January 09, 2026

Trump’s Empire Plan Exposed

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