True Patriot Love - Trump’s Tuesday Deadline： The End of Global Order？

00:00:00.000 As we round up a weekend here, a post-Easter weekend at TPL, I'm joined by Paul Micucci and

00:00:12.340 Jim Lang to talk about the elephant in the room. Over the weekend, the President of the United

00:00:18.280 States of America used the F word of all things in a message to the Iranian government saying

00:00:26.020 that uh it is time for them to pack it in or face uh hell on earth jim paul thanks for joining me

00:00:33.620 hey mike how you doing good this is uh this is really a uh a tight moment that the us has found

00:00:39.780 itself in and it might have pretty serious implications for canadians well mike you know

00:00:45.140 i want to step back from it and talk a little bit when he says uh dire consequences he means

00:00:50.980 the destruction of their energy sources so electricity within the country and quite frankly

00:00:58.020 that would mean the failure of water systems desalination so it does have severe consequences

00:01:04.820 and you know look at the geography we're talking about we are talking about a nation that's in the

00:01:10.340 middle of the desert yeah yeah so if you cut off desalinization if you cut off power it's not long

00:01:20.340 before you have a real humanitarian problem on your hands here it is you have 90 million people

00:01:27.060 the other thing is though that is working in iran's favor why i do believe gentlemen they're

00:01:31.620 gonna say bring it on is they have spent decades building key infrastructure points in the ground

00:01:38.820 in the mountains there's a lot of mountains in iran that people don't realize that goes with

00:01:43.380 the other geography the desert and they have built missile launching points command centers

00:01:50.980 and infrastructure points in the mountain in the ground to shield and protect themselves

00:01:56.420 and i mean we've heard the points from military experts in the pentagon they are actually

00:02:02.580 surprised how well iran has taken all the punches to the nose and keep getting up and keep coming

00:02:07.860 back you know it's funny as uh they took a look at uh one of the key points was uh an island used

00:02:15.620 for uh processing and uh and loading and uh as you took a look at that point it was obvious wow

00:02:24.900 this is just fish in a barrel if you put boots on the ground there so even just being

00:02:33.220 um just being an entire force into one small island seemed to present a real risk to the u.s

00:02:42.900 no matter how many boots they put on the ground just based on the proximity and the way that it

00:02:47.300 could be fired at from where it is yeah no for sure and that's why i think they were so they

00:02:52.260 were celebrating not celebrating but they were uh giving themselves a little bit of an applause

00:02:57.540 based on the rescue over the weekend of the two airmen who went down and they were able to send

00:03:03.300 people in to get them and get them out before they were captured and uh you know kudos to them

00:03:09.460 i think that was a wonderful uh mission to get accomplished and get those people out when they

00:03:14.580 were injured and down and crashed and we you know we could see it they showed the helicopters and

00:03:20.260 the plane and everything going but they didn't give us a lot of detail other than they had crashed

00:03:25.060 they went in and got them and it took a hundred thousand people or something it was a huge amount

00:03:29.700 of resources to put into to deploy to get those two people out after they went down and gentlemen

00:03:36.420 more than just the resources there was other planes that got shot down trying to rescue the

00:03:41.940 downed pilots and their weapons system officer they had helicopters shot at they had an a-10 war

00:03:49.380 a warthog shot at they had a c-130 hercules that crashed and had to be scuttled and burned

00:03:56.180 this is the american military are losing uh air air-to-air refueling tankers transport aircraft

00:04:05.200 helicopters fighters airborne control aircraft they are suffering a lot of damage to their

00:04:12.340 equipment and hardware in the middle east trying to fight this war uh trump put out uh

00:04:18.360 something on Truth Social.

00:04:20.480 By the way, I'm now following Truth Social just to catch it.

00:04:23.300 I don't want to miss another one.

00:04:27.100 But he said, you know, 8 p.m. Eastern Standard Time on Tuesday.

00:04:32.680 I'm going to assume that's the drop dead moment by which the U.S.

00:04:38.280 will make their decision.

00:04:39.700 I didn't like that he was promoting it like an episode of The Apprentice.

00:04:45.000 You know, I didn't like that coming up.

00:04:46.540 8 p.m. Tuesday night, Eastern Standard Time.

00:04:50.280 It just seemed cheesy, but no more cheesy than the last one.

00:04:53.780 But at that point, what do you guys anticipate will be his move? 0.67

00:05:00.060 Because I don't think Iran is going to take any heat of this at all. 0.60

00:05:04.020 Well, firstly, I don't think Iran's going to adhere to the deadline. 0.99

00:05:08.420 I mean, they hold all the cards with the straight-of-whore moves. 0.66

00:05:12.140 And up until now, Donald Trump has been playing a bad poker hand.

00:05:16.940 He keeps showing his hand what he's going to do.

00:05:19.720 He keeps announcing these deadlines.

00:05:21.280 How many deadlines has he announced in the last couple of weeks?

00:05:25.800 And quite frankly, he may try to exercise a strike and order a strike by the carrier task force and the assets in theater against the infrastructure of Iran. 0.66

00:05:37.140 But it may hurt Iran, but it's not going to stop them.

00:05:41.380 But I guess it's interesting because if this one doesn't go forward, Mike and Jim, and he has to pull out per se, he can't get the strait freed up, he can't secure it, Iran just keeps control of the strait, then what does really happen to the US military? 0.76

00:06:01.840 They have to pull back. They have to head home. These large aircraft carriers and all their equipment that they brought in was really not working there. It, quite frankly, didn't pan out, didn't do well. So he'd have to pull back, recede back to the Western Hemisphere, basically give up. And then that would send a message. I think that would send a resounding message, number one, to China. 0.52

00:06:27.820 because i think the other night i do agree with a lot of people the other night when he was giving

00:06:32.540 his speech he was almost talking directly to the chinese president he was he was literally saying

00:06:38.860 you know you need to go in and you need to get the straight freed up because the oil that's coming 0.91

00:06:43.740 out of iran is going to you and so you need to do that and you know they they just have sat quietly

00:06:49.900 on the sidelines. So if he basically couldn't protect the other EU nations, he couldn't protect

00:06:58.600 anyone in the region who had depended on him for security in the region, they got bombed,

00:07:04.140 they lost a lot of infrastructure, they have to retool. That's a significant issue for the United

00:07:10.640 States. So the United States would have to pull back. The interesting part about that is a lot

00:07:16.020 of the investment from those saudi nations actually go into the u.s so these wealth funds

00:07:22.140 that have been accumulated from these oil reserves that get shipped all over the world that go through

00:07:27.180 the strait quite frankly would then have to be repurposed to rebuild in the region a region now

00:07:33.060 that is actually controlled by china and iran um with no u.s protection so which then sends a

00:07:40.380 message honestly to china with respect to taiwan japan all those nations you know they don't have

00:07:47.140 to worry about the u.s because quite frankly the u.s wasn't able to go to iran it wasn't able to

00:07:52.160 deal with 90 million people and basically 50 or half of that 90 million is basically on probably

00:07:58.980 in favor of the u.s it's whatever the split is so you have those issues to deal with so

00:08:04.180 So they're looking at it saying, well, then, quite frankly, the world order is now changed.

00:08:11.380 Yeah, it does send that message, doesn't it really, Jim? 0.95

00:08:13.840 I mean, the U.S. having to pull away from Iran sends a message to the whole world, all of their adversaries, that they might show up and not be able to get the mission accomplished. 0.87

00:08:26.740 I think that also is a shot at the American people on the arm that they are injected with pride. 0.56

00:08:34.180 And at the same time, gentlemen, you have Pete Hegseth, who is firing all these generals and blaming them for their mistakes going on.

00:08:42.500 Now, so the American military are going to have to take a look at what Ukraine did with Russia and change how they fight wars and the equipment they use and the tactics they use.

00:08:53.500 And while all this is going on, well, we're talking about the deadline, a story today that India is staring down a food crisis because of the lack of fertilizer.

00:09:02.600 And here's something else I found out over the weekend. Saudi Arabia is the largest supplier of helium in the world. And the helium is critical in semiconductor manufacturing and microprocessors. And that's going to affect a lot of us around the world as well.

00:09:18.800 So you have helium for microprocessors and semiconductors, fertilizer, India's facing it now, Canadians and American farmers are going to be planting soon.

00:09:29.240 It could be really tough sledding for them.

00:09:31.960 And the average person who is juggling two and three jobs just to pay the bills.

00:09:36.680 I mean, I drove by a gas station today in my area of southern Ontario, $1.87 a liter.

00:09:41.860 And what Dan McTagg told us on this channel a couple of weeks ago is all coming true and it's hitting Canadians where it hurts.

00:09:51.860 So now let's take a look at this. Things blow up in Iran. I would imagine the U.S. makes a drawback. 0.97

00:10:00.920 What's Trump's next position globally speaking? I mean, really, that does leave the U.S. in a scenario.

00:10:06.980 I mean, Jim, you and I said it before, you said before the show, the one thing that you know for sure Americans watch is gas prices and the price of beer.

00:10:16.440 And Jim and I both added, yeah, they do not like to see coffins coming home draped in American flags as well.

00:10:23.580 So this could either go one direction, which is going to be very unpopular with the American people, or it could go in another direction, sending Trump home.

00:10:32.320 In that scenario, what do you see?

00:10:35.160 Sending Trump home.

00:10:36.980 Well, then he asked, you know, at that point, he's shown his vulnerability, right?

00:10:40.600 The U.S. has shown their inability to go to across the world, change command or control of a country that's basically a threat to the United States and what he perceives the world.

00:10:54.800 So he's got to come back and secure the Western Hemisphere, which is exactly what we talked about in his national strategy for military at Christmas.

00:11:02.440 We said this. We said the Monroe Doctrine, everything else. He's got to come back.

00:11:06.800 Now, that actually expedites the conversation about Canada. 0.66

00:11:12.720 So then we're back in front and center because the one thing he's got to secure when he leaves Iran is oil.

00:11:21.920 And as we know, most of the U.S. oil is imported, and it's imported from Canada, right?

00:11:28.840 So quite frankly, he's got natural gas and oil.

00:11:31.380 He's got to center and get some focus back on in the Western Hemisphere.

00:11:35.340 You know, he can go down as far as Brazil and start to figure out how to change relationships with countries in the Western Hemisphere.

00:11:44.900 He has talked, Brazil has been on his talk map, as it were.

00:11:49.600 Yeah, sure it does.

00:11:50.780 So, you know, he's a very basic, you know, when you listen to him talk, he definitely is a developer.

00:11:56.140 So he talks like a developer.

00:11:57.800 So, you know, bricks, mortar, wood, steel, that's kind of, you know, where he comes from.

00:12:04.200 And when it comes to environment, you know, food, energy, all those things are paramount.

00:12:11.440 He's got to think about the Western Hemisphere, how to secure those, and potentially he has to defend now.

00:12:18.280 So he goes from an offensive position to a defensive position.

00:12:21.500 So he's now defending the Western Hemisphere.

00:12:23.720 He's no longer talking about controlling anything when it comes to Russia, China, the Middle East.

00:12:30.120 Those are all now out of his purview.

00:12:32.100 He's moving back. And so now he's got to be careful, which then starts that conversation of every country, Mexico, Canada, Cuba, all those conversations, Venezuela, Brazil, all those conversations start to come into play that we've been hearing about.

00:12:47.420 And they become, you know, they become paramount to him because, again, he can't weaken even further.

00:12:54.440 He has to control and make sure, you know, he can get the economies going based on trade with the Western Hemisphere nations.

00:13:03.580 You know, I'm sorry, go ahead.

00:13:06.080 I was just going to add on to what Paul said.

00:13:08.320 and while all that's going on trump and i don't think it's possible has got to find a way to

00:13:15.280 repair the damage he's done to world leaders he basically offended every president and prime

00:13:21.600 minister in europe and nato uh calling them all sorts of names in social media and in public

00:13:27.360 reporters for not jumping in to help them so what friend does he have in the international stage

00:13:33.680 is it is it iran it's not iran because they will fight them but what are we talking about

00:13:38.240 like china putin and russia are they his friends the old way of um you know england france canada

00:13:47.040 all those western countries you know being part of america it's out the window and i don't know when

00:13:53.200 that that that wound heals i mean they had a a poll today this morning that came out that 58

00:14:00.240 of canadians would like our government to talk about joining the european union the canadian

00:14:05.400 public are so upset with america and trump they're thinking why don't we have a a relationship with

00:14:12.140 them and why don't we have our own version of nato that doesn't include the united states if

00:14:16.280 they're going to be like that so trump's got a bigger issue that he's not thought through because

00:14:20.780 of his cognitive decline is america's being more and more isolated on the world stage and there's

00:14:27.180 less and less countries that are willing to come to his aid and the country's aid i like that jim

00:14:32.440 throws cognitive decline in there he's not a well i i get where you're coming from and it just makes

00:14:38.980 me laugh but i'm sorry on that note paul i was just going to say if he has to come into canada

00:14:44.520 to get these resources lit things that they need uh for lithium batteries uh oil you know these

00:14:51.320 essential uh fertilizers that we have access to fertilizer water water is another good one so on

00:14:58.500 that note i don't think that we're in a bargaining position with the united states of america

00:15:04.140 and i don't really think becoming maybe i'm crazy becoming part of a a union of countries on the

00:15:12.180 other side of the of the ocean doesn't make a lot of sense when the guy right below us is still a

00:15:18.180 world superpower and hungry for energy and oil he's not going to be getting through the Strait

00:15:23.820 of Hormuz or from relationships in the Middle East. And I think, Mike, over the weekend,

00:15:29.600 you started to see the discussion about leaving NATO. It became really key. Over Easter,

00:15:34.700 you know, a lot of times governments put things out on long weekends because

00:15:40.080 they put them into the air just to say, I told you so. And the U.S. government started saying,

00:15:45.360 You know, Marco Rubio was very clear. He said, you know, we're not happy with NATO. We're thinking of leaving NATO. And he was very blunt about it. He wasn't like sugarcoating it because of what's happened here. This could be the end of our relationship. And with one year's notice, we're out of NATO.

00:16:02.180 Yeah, but it does put NATO into perspective. If one wild cowboy wants to go to war and all of NATO is expected to be there. Well, this is the one scenario NATO is seeing right now that is unlike any other one where everybody is being called to arms on a war they have no interest in. And this could be the second or third time that the U.S. has done this in the Middle East with NATO in tow.

00:16:28.120 And just to add to that, did you see the story? Germany has told every fighting age individual, 17 to 45, they're basically telling them to be ready to help work and defend your country.

00:16:44.260 Do you see that story? So you have European countries that are laying the foundation for a massive expansion of their military, thinking that they will not get help from America.

00:16:55.540 And then they're going to have to rely on the blood, sweat and tears of their people of their own country to defend themselves.

00:17:02.860 Well, think about it, Jim. And, you know, over the last decade, the Europe has become dependent on the U.S., you know, from funding perspective and from a military, even the numbers.

00:17:14.260 right? Not only weapons, but the number of people. They've seen a decline in their military.

00:17:18.640 Now they're facing the fact that, quite frankly, after Iran, they pull out, they move on,

00:17:24.640 and they go back home. Are they that concerned about Europe? I don't think they are. They don't

00:17:29.880 see them as a big trading partner. They don't do a lot of, like we don't, quite frankly,

00:17:34.060 we don't do a lot of trade. We've talked about it on shows before. We don't do a lot of trade

00:17:40.100 with our european nations the ones that are in nato with us um not like we do with the u.s so

00:17:45.260 quite frankly the u.s goes home they leave nato they leave europe now europe has to worry about

00:17:54.440 russia big time yeah well you know the other thing it occurs to me that as we're talking about

00:18:02.600 the u.s tapping canada this could be you know effectively a moment for mexico and canada that

00:18:09.820 is a little more than uncomfortable, or it could be beneficial depending on how things go.

00:18:14.460 We already have certain laws, certain legislation that says we will only extract so much oil. We

00:18:22.440 will only process so much oil. We will do only this, this, and this with regard to the environment

00:18:28.740 that I think if we got pushed for more product, if we got pushed for more resources, we would have

00:18:35.940 to rewrite things in our own parliament right away to make them happen. It's not just something

00:18:41.920 that we could say, oh, yeah, go and take more oil or, you know, we'll kind of deal with you.

00:18:46.680 Really, it does make fundamental changes to laws that the liberal government put into place. So

00:18:53.400 Carney would have to backtrack on all of that. We would have to rewrite new legislation.

00:19:00.020 I mean, I don't see what the other options are, except that we become a more carbon producing

00:19:05.360 nation almost instantly i mean all cards are on the table and whether carney wants to admit it

00:19:12.640 or not to the more environmentally activist members of his cabinet i don't think he has a choice

00:19:19.680 eventually to revive pipelines that were shot down by biden and trudeau to expand pipelines to the

00:19:26.880 pacific coast to build that liquid natural gas port in churchill i think as a country

00:19:33.200 what are we looking at now? Every month in the last few months, the gross domestic product of

00:19:40.040 the nation is slowly going down. Prices are going up. It's getting harder and harder for people to

00:19:46.840 pay the bills. You hear stories about individuals in this country, two and three jobs just to put

00:19:53.760 food on the table and keep a roof in their head. And if things go up eventually, like I can't work

00:19:58.480 24 hours a day what do i do yeah i think that that's a consistent feeling i i worry at this

00:20:05.540 very moment uh what the decision of trump will be but i'll i'll be honest with you guys i don't think

00:20:11.360 either either direction for the u.s right now is very good well here yeah it's not very good and

00:20:18.820 quite frankly if he has to go the other way as we talked about earlier in the show that would mean

00:20:23.080 that would mean knocking out the energy sources in iran which would then leave 90 million people

00:20:28.680 stranded we already have massive immigration problems at home and in the us and canada and

00:20:34.520 around the world europe has so it's not like these people are going to be migrated and we're not going 0.99

00:20:39.560 anywhere paul without water in a few days well but a huge amount of society is it weakens them 0.77

00:20:45.640 substantially and quite frankly israel then has their uh you know full carb launch to move in and

00:20:51.720 just take over right so and they'll have enough ground troops based on the weakened nation to do

00:20:57.560 that because you'll see people dropping in the streets so it's it is a nightmare scenario it's

00:21:03.320 a way to actually avoid the nuclear threat so that's one thing it actually does do a few things

00:21:10.280 unfortunately uh really unfortunately that we don't want to see but it it does uh send that

00:21:16.040 message and it actually brings this to a conclusion relatively quickly it does sustain the u.s from a

00:21:24.120 dominance perspective in the region it causes some real significant challenges with china so then

00:21:31.400 china that's where you know he was he was sending the message to china and his uh state state of the

00:21:38.360 nation address saying china you had to open the straight you know so my my everyone gets off my 0.67

00:21:43.960 back i can claim victory and go home china didn't do that so they're forced his hand to play this

00:21:49.000 hand now he now controls the energy source the oil for china so now that causes another set of issues

00:21:58.200 um which he's got to deal with so israel and the u.s standing kind of alone would now have to

00:22:05.000 reach a deal with china he was supposed to be in china the president trump was supposed to

00:22:09.960 to be in china in april he's deferred his trip now till may so he was supposed to be there i think

00:22:15.580 this week he's deferred till sometime in may he said i'll be there after i handle this my my

00:22:21.220 thinking is that if he's going to go that way he's then going to move to china to try to resolve

00:22:27.340 something so because now you know they'd have to figure out a way to get the uh energy going they'd

00:22:34.580 have to figure out temporary energy sources to get to those refineries, to get that oil moving

00:22:40.540 and to get the drilling and to get everything going. That's going to be a tough haul. I don't

00:22:44.540 know how he does that. There's a set of logistical issues that he's got to deal with so the Chinese 1.00

00:22:49.080 don't start to panic too fast, which causes another set of conflicts that come into play.

00:22:55.380 So that scenario, again, is a whole host of other scenarios for another show. But if we

00:23:03.380 if by tomorrow morning so this is the interesting thing i don't think i think canadians went away

00:23:08.420 and had a nice easter i don't think i don't know if everyone was watching i i know i you know i

00:23:14.120 was working over the weekend because i had a bunch of uh projects going on and as i'm have the news

00:23:19.460 on behind me working away i'm listening and i'm thinking i don't know if people are paying

00:23:23.440 attention to how bad this gets in a short period of time so if if we wake up tomorrow and on tuesday

00:23:29.880 we we see that uh power in the in iran is gone then that's leading down a whole different path

00:23:40.040 a whole different set of discussions that quite frankly need to be taken care of quickly

00:23:44.560 which then also he's gonna trump has a whole set of issues at home at that point that he's got to

00:23:51.900 deal with never mind okay oh sorry i just want to say go ahead at the same time paul's talking

00:23:58.800 about that francois philippe champaign and other canadian officials have just returned from a

00:24:04.000 trade mission in china and and i can't help but thinking that the chinese government and their

00:24:10.000 officials have been quiet on purpose you know the old saying don't let your enemy don't interrupt

00:24:15.360 your enemy when they're making a mistake so while trump keeps tripping over his own feet and making

00:24:20.160 all these crazy statements china has been strategically quiet and thinking this and 0.64

00:24:25.440 They're always playing the long game. 0.94

00:24:27.180 And I can't help but think they're trying to cut deals with Canada as a country as an alternate source of energy for them.

00:24:34.140 Guys, I can't help but think this.

00:24:37.120 And Nick, be prepared to edit this.

00:24:39.240 I don't know how this goes.

00:24:41.400 Does anybody care about humanity anymore?

00:24:43.900 You can't bomb the resources of an entire nation of people in the middle of the desert, making it impossible for them to get water.

00:24:52.260 You can't go and annihilate the neighbors. I'm so sorry, but I don't understand why Israel and the U.S. think it's okay to even threaten these kind of horrific things or even, as we've seen in the Gaza Strip, go that deep into the paint so much against humanity that there is no walk back from it.

00:25:15.020 And I don't understand why the world isn't stepping up and standing in front of Israel right now and standing in front of the U.S. and saying, stop it. 0.60

00:25:23.640 Humanity is in the balance here. 0.99

00:25:25.660 This is nonsense, and it has to stop.

00:25:28.720 I don't understand.

00:25:30.120 I think to some degree the allies are backing away saying we don't want anything to do with this.

00:25:35.080 But nobody is standing in front of Netanyahu saying, stop doing this to humanity.

00:25:41.320 So ask yourself the question, gentlemen, why?

00:25:44.180 because it all through history in america when israel was in a military incursion

00:25:49.320 after about a month or two the american administration through history

00:25:53.900 for lyndon b johnson and nixon and everyone else would step in and say that's enough stop

00:25:59.100 but biden didn't do it and trump didn't do it till gaza was no more and why so what do they

00:26:06.440 have in them why would they not go in and stop them say okay it's been a couple months stop

00:26:11.960 bombing gaza you're bombing hospitals and schools and refugee centers that's enough but they didn't 0.84

00:26:18.540 do it and now the threat is there with iran in the same way we're going to take out power your 0.97

00:26:24.440 hospitals go down desalinization goes down uh you know the ability to cool yourself goes down and

00:26:30.680 one of the hottest it it is absolutely a new time on earth but i think mike you're taking you know

00:26:37.900 coming off easter which you alluded to in the beginning of the show you're taking a very

00:26:42.300 christian perspective on it okay right so which you are you know and i appreciate that and i think

00:26:47.900 you know that's well founded and i think it needs to be addressed but you look at trump on easter

00:26:54.060 sunday he comes out on true show social and he uses a profanity to say to him and you know everyone

00:26:59.820 was kind of shocked you know uh marjorie taylor green was like what the heck you know what's going

00:27:05.100 on and and they're even her and but i think what he's doing and i think what he was trying to get

00:27:12.060 through is i'm not looking at this from a christian perspective i'm looking at this from a total

00:27:19.900 uh this destruction of this nation and well he said right in that message praise be allah yeah

00:27:27.180 right like the the message he's not going to destruct that nation like i i understand what

00:27:32.300 what you're saying he thinks he's doing but that's they can keep punching iran all they want

00:27:38.300 but that's not good like they unless they're willing to put five six hundred thousand troops

00:27:44.480 on the ground in iran with armor and helicopters and suffer horrible casualties until they take

00:27:51.220 out the way they're doing it now they can't win is that the purpose to annihilate a society i don't

00:27:57.500 think that's what they were trying to do i don't even know what they were trying to do but but you

00:28:01.020 know by doing this way and knocking out the uh the power the energy sources to the country

00:28:06.800 you're doing it in a very slow way jim you're not you're not fighting anymore right you're just

00:28:11.820 you're kind of like cuba you're just isolating them like he's doing done to cuba right you're

00:28:16.280 basically isolating them on an island so you want to you know he's basically saying to him you want

00:28:21.040 to live on an island you want to protect the strait good i'm gonna let you protect the strait

00:28:25.280 i'm gonna cut your power off and you're gonna sit in the middle of the desert and and basically

00:28:29.220 that's going to be the end of you and and if he does it that's what he does so after you know uh

00:28:34.900 what is it three days four days i think you can go without uh well then it depends on your stature

00:28:40.820 and health i guess your health and everything else people are dying so quite frankly you know maybe

00:28:45.140 you get seven days where water totally runs out you know reserves and everything else and then

00:28:49.940 quite frankly you just by the end of two weeks you're just waiting for people to and once you

00:28:55.460 hit it quite frankly the the sad part of this is once you hit the the power generation plants and

00:29:02.260 everything else and the hydro you can't get it back so there's no going back because you've

00:29:06.660 destroyed it in the rebuilding of it takes you know years and years so quite frankly that's it

00:29:12.340 it's over so you're just waiting and you you can't get the people out you can't do anything with it

00:29:18.100 so if once that's played that is the end and that's the sad part and then you don't really

00:29:24.020 have to fight that much quite frankly it's it's a waiting game so i guess you know this is where

00:29:29.700 iran sits now the ball's back in iran's court because what he's he's saying to them is i'm

00:29:36.100 going to play the same game that you're playing with me but now when i knock it out i'm waiting

00:29:41.940 you out to the end i'm not waiting you out to negotiate right so he's he's kind of playing

00:29:46.500 that ball and it's sad that he is playing that ball yeah it's pretty amazing i don't know what

00:29:51.300 is in those epstein files but it's pretty amazing how far this has gotten pushed but i will say this

00:29:59.060 you know i don't add on to yeah sorry go ahead i just only going to say is iran has been dealing

00:30:04.580 with being cut off from the rest of the world since 1980 this is not new to them and i agree

00:30:11.860 that it could be devastating but i think they have a lot of hidden infrastructure just in case

00:30:18.740 of this scenario i think they're a lot more prepared for this kind of card that trump is

00:30:23.460 playing than people realize and i will be and on paper what you're saying is true gentlemen that

00:30:29.380 this is a crime against humanity cutting off their water and power but let's just see what happens

00:30:34.580 after the deadline because i think iran is a lot tougher of a nation a lot more resilient 0.74

00:30:40.340 than quite frankly the american administration obviously trump and his butt kissers thought they 0.87

00:30:46.660 Yeah. Now, coming back home a little, Jim, before, you know, before we finish up, I want to talk about it. What are we doing back home now? So this is the interesting part. You know, I know everyone left for Easter. We have by elections back in, you know, across Canada, going on Quebec, Ontario. We have a bunch of stuff going on.

00:31:07.760 but you know you're not hearing much about this and quite frankly there are issues we need to

00:31:14.240 focus on now we need to think through this what what happens what scenarios what is our sort of

00:31:20.720 contingency plans we've been really quiet about all this and we we've kind of sat on the sidelines

00:31:26.560 you know you mentioned a poll that said we should go with europe all these things i've read them too

00:31:31.760 you know they're all great things to kind of talk about and over a beer or in the pub or whatever

00:31:37.200 but you know this is when in times like this if by tomorrow this occurs if by tomorrow the

00:31:44.080 destruction of iran occurs then we have to do one set of things if quite frankly if it doesn't occur

00:31:52.960 and the u.s has to kind of recede back into the western hemisphere and the world gets split because

00:31:58.960 then at in a very short period of time to become very transparent that the world is now splitting 0.93

00:32:04.880 into three or four pieces so there's no super global protection across you know china will make

00:32:12.720 moves you know india will make moves you'll see russia make moves you're going to see all that

00:32:17.680 happen what's going to happen in our hemisphere how we're going to play into it those are all

00:32:21.920 things we need to rethink now right and those are the conversations that aren't taking place and i

00:32:27.360 know they're hard to but you know we've been you know i come back to we're doing a show in a few

00:32:33.200 minutes on minimum wage and productivity you know again we haven't left ourself in a good spot

00:32:40.840 because we are a highly unproductive productive nation right now who looks like we're sitting

00:32:47.900 with a lot of dependencies right now our oil we talk about being rich in minerals being rich in

00:32:53.160 all these things we're shipping our oil to the united states right now we're getting it refined

00:32:57.600 and they're shipping it back yeah we're doing a bunch of things that quite frankly were dependent

00:33:02.200 on too. We nullify our oil profitability entirely. And Paul, if Trump says, okay, I need that oil,

00:33:10.680 it's not going to be on terms that we like. It's going to be on pretty demand terms. We're not

00:33:16.200 going to get more per barrel. We're going to produce more per barrel, but we're going to

00:33:19.720 produce more barrels. This is my estimation. Carney's going to be pushed into an uncomfortable

00:33:25.380 zone of non environmentally friendly getting of our application of our resources and extraction

00:33:35.660 of our resources. So, you know, I think that that's where our government at the first fight

00:33:42.040 that they would have in this scenario is you're going to destroy the environment. And Trump's

00:33:46.380 going to be like, shut up. I need that oil. Get out of the way. Well, and you both raise great 1.00

00:33:51.180 points and the you know surrounding all of this is the liberal convention of montreal thursday

00:33:57.980 friday and saturday and that's where as a country we're expecting mark carney to get on the stage

00:34:04.780 and make a profound statement about our nation about iran about all the things that you just

00:34:09.980 talked about because he's been as you say quite quiet he went to a sends game and got booed

00:34:14.780 he did a social media post about easter but it's if we're not hearing about it then surely we're

00:34:19.900 going to hear about it on montreal the liberal convention this weekend the last thing i remember

00:34:24.220 the prime minister doing is having a t he gaffa gaffa with olivia chow and premier yeah ford which

00:34:31.740 was nonsense mexico mexico right now is in discussions with the united states mexico is

00:34:39.340 continuing their discussions with on their kuzma discussions they're they're they continue along

00:34:45.740 you know she's been quiet i said this from the from day one the mexican president she's been

00:34:50.060 quiet she really hasn't been you know outwardly critical or you know been in the press a lot

00:34:56.380 here and there but you know she's played her hand kind of really well to figure out

00:35:00.780 kind of watching how this is going she's now at the table when whatever's going to happen

00:35:06.540 tomorrow happens yeah so it gives her a little bit of a leg up to kind of negotiate the outcome you

00:35:13.020 you know, because she'll see it.

00:35:15.280 If he goes forward, that's one thing.

00:35:17.020 If he's coming back towards her,

00:35:18.940 she's got to negotiate another thing.

00:35:20.860 She's at that table. 0.99

00:35:22.000 We at some point have to enter that table.

00:35:24.560 What leverage do we have when we enter that table?

00:35:26.900 I think that's as Canadians, we'd like to know.

00:35:29.240 Where are we sitting right now?

00:35:30.320 What leverage do we have?

00:35:31.920 Who's going to, quite frankly,

00:35:33.400 who's going to work with us to protect us?

00:35:37.300 I'm sure NATO loves us, but quite frankly,

00:35:39.540 him departing NATO when this is over,

00:35:42.220 which probably is the most likelihood where does that leave us it leaves us uh as a neighbor beside

00:35:47.260 a country that's no longer a nato partner so and carney doesn't like to answer tough questions

00:35:53.980 gentlemen but but if you you both have nailed it he's got to answer questions about

00:35:59.340 do we you know turn a blind eye to the environment and build more pipelines do we push away that part

00:36:05.100 of the liberal party who doesn't want it and say we have to do it what what are we doing in the

00:36:09.500 geopolitical stage are we are we gonna have to spend even more money on the armed forces so

00:36:13.980 where do we cut so this is a busy big week for mark carney and he will have to step up and answer

00:36:20.460 these questions especially with the convention coming up well you know jim we did a quick knock

00:36:25.260 off you know on the number of military personnel he's got to get to pretty quick uh and if he's

00:36:30.540 going to get to that five percent number which right now it looks like he's going to have to

00:36:34.140 quickly he's got to spend spend a lot of money he's got to triple our armed forces almost overnight

00:36:41.100 so there's some things that are really need to take place which are tough things to do and these

00:36:45.420 are really uh really tough things to get your head around given all the issues with the u.s kind of

00:36:53.420 up in the air with where they're going in iran they all culminate so this i agree with you this

00:36:58.380 week uh is he going to get a bunch of tough questions yeah could he potentially have this

00:37:03.980 conference uh in quebec at the worst time i think he might i know it's yeah no great point

00:37:11.100 not great you know because this was supposed to be big loving right mike this was the big liberal

00:37:16.380 loving uh diane carney is supposed to be speaking everyone loves mark carney uh elbows up and

00:37:22.220 everyone's going to be happy and we get the by-elections coming up we're all the majority

00:37:26.380 and go canada but you can't just say that and not answer these other questions

00:37:31.500 no he's gonna have some pretty tough moments i think in front of the press uh over this um

00:37:37.580 for certain and of course uh the opposition really not pushing too hard against uh tax prices and

00:37:44.380 stuff like that but we are going to do an episode this in the next couple of days that revolve around

00:37:49.500 what's going to happen at the pumps how are we going to handle taxation and you know there's

00:37:54.140 There's some real challenges in that.

00:37:55.680 Once again, net zero has put us in a position legislatively to not mess too much with taxes.

00:38:03.520 It's kind of a big deal to reverse that.

00:38:06.240 Well, Pierre Pauly has suggested cutting the gas, the HST and the gas to the end of the calendar year to give us a break.

00:38:13.380 And the liberals shut that down right away.

00:38:15.500 So they don't seem like they don't seem inclined to give any Canadian any tax break at the pump.

00:38:21.300 Like that's not happening.

00:38:22.120 Now, it seems like they're just in a position financially right now that that's that would just be blowing a hole in the body of anything that they have financially planned.

00:38:31.800 Again, going to Montreal with having to answer another question. So a bunch of other nations are actually already cutting taxes on gas.

00:38:40.320 Yeah. So you're going there. You're going to get asked that question. No, I won't do it because the carbon agenda.

00:38:44.740 OK, man, like at that point, people are going to go, OK, but then, you know, say Trump tomorrow decides to pull back.

00:38:53.680 So he's not going to go forward. He's coming back from Iran.

00:38:56.300 Then they're going to say, well, what are you going to do now? He's coming back.

00:38:59.220 He's he's wants to control the Western Hemisphere.

00:39:02.640 What are you going to do to negotiate with him now?

00:39:05.520 Because he's going to want to secure your oil, your resources.

00:39:10.120 What are you going to do? Quite frankly, you need a strategy.

00:39:13.140 And just saying, well, you know, net zero, you know, no carbon.

00:39:19.400 No, it's not going to pass the smell test.

00:39:21.740 This guy's a very guttural guy, right?

00:39:23.380 You've seen it as we've talked about.

00:39:25.300 A construction developer, he's going to come back.

00:39:28.600 He's going to worry about energy, all types of energy.

00:39:32.200 He's going to worry about water, and he's going to worry about resources.

00:39:35.540 And quite frankly, I know we want to do these missions to China to have these conversations.

00:39:41.160 I understand why we're doing them.

00:39:43.140 And depending on what happens, again, watching tomorrow, I don't know how that's going to go, quite frankly, whether they're going to be interested in it. You know, before the show, Jim, we were watching, I think it was Tucker Carlson did a show.

00:39:57.040 oh yeah yeah and and you know we were absolutely astonished of now this is his opinion and it's a

00:40:04.400 very kind of it's a right-wing opinion but um you know he doesn't perceive canada in the best light

00:40:11.760 he doesn't talk about canada he the government he talks about the government in a very negative way

00:40:17.280 he described us as a police state yeah you know it's a very uh with china having a similar similar

00:40:24.400 hand in control so he does refer to us in in a very negative light so you know if you look at that

00:40:31.120 um discussion or that opinion you think to yourself number one he doesn't understand the

00:40:37.200 country which is a shame and i think it would be it would be a good idea to actually have that

00:40:41.720 conversation because you know you're hearing in the u.s right now things like the maid program

00:40:47.060 you're hearing uh you know the the chinese state yeah we really don't have good pr do we no we

00:40:54.100 have good pr and americans are perceiving us much differently than we really are so there is there's

00:41:00.100 a lot of that that uh needs to be dealt with from a communications perspective but you know those are

00:41:06.180 the things that you know as they turn and they look at their predicament in the world they're

00:41:11.860 also thinking of us in a different way they're not thinking of us as a happy group of canadians

00:41:17.540 anymore they're thinking of us as a very discontent um group who's being overtaxed and over trying to

00:41:23.940 Trying to get the government to kill us.

00:41:26.200 Exactly, yeah. 0.85

00:41:27.260 That's the way they're perceiving.

00:41:29.220 And so that conversation, when you hear it, it's hard to hear because, quite frankly, it's not truthful and it's not correct.

00:41:36.080 But it's also their opinion on what they see.

00:41:39.200 So they see through our news, they hear.

00:41:41.640 And quite frankly, I can see how they can see that.

00:41:44.440 I can honestly understand.

00:41:46.140 No, the reflection may not be accurate, but it is a reflection of who we are.

00:41:52.080 I think that they see us as a non-productive nation.

00:41:54.500 I think they see us as late to the game and slow moving and second guessing.

00:41:59.180 And Americans aren't like that.

00:42:01.120 No.

00:42:01.940 And I'm not a Tucker Carlson fan, and I don't agree with everything he says,

00:42:07.520 but he's not the only American, both in business, media, and government,

00:42:12.660 who may share that opinion.

00:42:14.600 And as Canadians, as difficult as it is, and I echo your sentiments,

00:42:19.000 It's not true. But until we find a way as a nation to change their minds to the reality of what we're really like, that's a problem for Canada.

00:42:28.400 Well, it is. And I think we got to show, you know, at some point, which is it sits in the prime minister's, you know, portfolio.

00:42:36.340 We got to produce and we got to figure out a way to build some projects that are successful.

00:42:40.940 we've had a bunch of really bad you know we've had some bad projects go south on us over budget

00:42:46.780 over time some crazy projects in the country over the last decade what are you talking about paul

00:42:51.900 we got that great ev thing going on that's good battery you know well and you know the reason

00:42:58.620 we're subsidizing them 13 billion dollars to get you know them here for volkswagen is quite frankly

00:43:04.460 because we have to because we're so non-productive they would never come here because they were not

00:43:08.220 How many Volkswagens is that, by the way?

00:43:10.460 How many of those do you have to sell before we start to break even on that?

00:43:13.600 But that is, you know, those are part of the issues that are sitting with the prime minister this week that he's got to deal with.

00:43:19.420 And those are the things that are being perceived by Americans right now.

00:43:22.100 These are the issues that we need to address.

00:43:24.240 And how do you do them?

00:43:25.280 You need to get more investment into the country.

00:43:27.660 You need to get more investment from countries that are favorable and will be favorable also to the U.S.

00:43:33.900 if they're focusing back on the Western hemisphere.

00:43:36.260 we need to figure out a way to work through our technology and reinvestment in technology and to

00:43:41.940 get our productivity up and training we have resources let's start there i know but you need

00:43:48.800 to we need to have people who can go in and have the have the background to mine them have the

00:43:53.620 background to drill have the background that's something you don't hear in canada very often the

00:43:57.920 mining skills training program yeah why don't we have that why don't we have the the better lumber

00:44:04.560 and pulp programs out there.

00:44:08.360 I don't know why we're not just focused

00:44:10.020 on what we have the most of

00:44:11.520 and the best option on first.

00:44:14.880 So for Carney's role,

00:44:17.400 because of his background, Paul,

00:44:19.040 is, hey, I have money.

00:44:20.920 I go to you guys and go,

00:44:22.560 I want to build this.

00:44:24.380 And after five years,

00:44:25.820 you're like, I'm not doing this anymore.

00:44:27.560 This has to be not years,

00:44:29.620 but weeks or months

00:44:30.720 till you get everything approved and start.

00:44:32.740 because if you're telling them it's 5, 10 years from now,

00:44:36.320 what am I even doing?

00:44:37.480 I'll just go somewhere else and build what I want to.

00:44:40.220 No, we do need to.

00:44:41.160 We need to take a lot of these gates down

00:44:42.880 and speed the process for sure.

00:44:46.340 All right, let's see what happens tomorrow, shall we, guys?

00:44:48.860 Fingers crossed.

00:44:49.720 Everybody with their breath held and their fingers crossed,

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00:45:10.340 Thanks, Jim.

00:45:10.840 I appreciate your time.

00:45:11.580 Thanks, Paul.

00:45:12.260 Thank you.

00:45:12.700 Always, boys.

00:45:20.580 Patriotic means looking up for each other and fixing things together.

00:45:25.020 True patriotism is being in the country you love, surrounded by people you love, and great weather.

00:45:30.960 being a patriot is being a part of your community and caring for it it doesn't matter who you are

00:45:35.280 or where you're from patriotism is the one thing we all share it's okay to be critical of government

00:45:41.840 and still be a patriot it's gratitude to your country of course i'm a patriot i'm

00:45:46.480 I'm Canadian, it's my home.

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True Patriot Love - April 06, 2026

Trump’s Tuesday Deadline： The End of Global Order？

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