00:02:08.000And then there's a definite shift, particularly starting in 2020, where suddenly the international
00:02:13.020press is saying, whatever you do on assisted suicide, avoid whatever Canada is doing.
00:02:18.300uh you know there's this shop teacher with the humongous oversized mcgumbos uh that is showing
00:02:25.340up and there's nothing in canadian law to stop it um so it that was the spur uh but it was it was me
00:02:32.360sort of understanding uh that for most of my adult life if canada was doing something that seemed a
00:02:38.700little iffy um there was usually some hippie corner of europe that had done first uh so you
00:02:44.580we could say okay well we sound crazy this sounds crazy but you know the netherlands did any crazier
00:02:49.060version yeah and it was me realizing that on a lot of these issues uh so you know be it assisted
00:02:55.620suicide you know gender politics uh housing affordability uh we were rapidly becoming uh the
00:03:01.460world's most dysfunctional and the world's worst doing things that no one else was doing i mean
00:03:07.540one example being on drug policy so harm reduction is not our idea it comes from the uk but nobody
00:03:14.260has gone as far on harm reduction as we have so just well i think every mid-level canadian city
00:03:19.780has a safe injection site i mean that's unlike anywhere else in the world i think that's a really
00:03:25.860good example and it actually came up in our house uh over the weekend uh as i had to explain to my
00:03:31.000wife who is from uh mexico and did not see the progression of how we got here explaining to her
00:03:37.680that yes there's a place where you can go and uh inject uh drugs and the drug dealers just down
00:03:44.140the street and there's people there to help you she said it's just it's unfathomable that we would
00:03:50.460have even gotten to that point meanwhile like you point out yeah maybe in some hippie corner of
00:03:56.080europe they tried it what we don't find out is yeah they gave up on it six months in and they've
00:04:00.800gone a different way we make the mistake and we stick it out yeah it's also it was able to get
00:04:07.960entrenched uh more in canada um basically so my thesis i didn't have this thesis going into the
00:04:13.220so i thought i'll just write these you know if it's uniquely bad in canada i'll write about it
00:04:17.700so there's no chapter about like blowing up the debt because everybody's kind of doing that so
00:04:21.220it only got a chapter if it's something in which canada is breaking the mold on how to do something
00:04:27.220poorly and my thesis at the end of this and again i didn't have it going into it was uh canada was
00:04:33.460just had no imagination for unintended consequences or things going wrong um so thus when you look at
00:04:40.580these bad ideas be it you know very low barrier euthanasia etc and you look at when they were
00:04:46.260implemented there's almost no skepticism at the time a lot of these issues were passed with
00:04:51.140conservative and liberal support at the time you have almost no media coverage saying you know this
00:04:56.260we should think about this and this could potentially go another way often less skepticism
00:05:01.700than again you know the countries we usually compare ourselves to the nordic countries of the
00:05:06.500the Netherlands, etc. So we brought in a lot of these ideas with no skepticism, no barriers,
00:05:14.680often not even any press coverage. So there's bad ideas all over the place. I mean, every country,
00:05:22.520every Western country has a version of these bad ideas. But in Canada, the door was wide open,
00:05:28.560and we had zero defenses against them. So it's just, you know, it's like an infectious disease,
00:05:33.640and you don't have any kind of vaccination and you're like oh right this way uh you know race
00:05:38.200based uh criminal justice sentencing um you know set up here and you can run everything now
00:05:45.160oh my god well it's a really that's an astute uh way to look at this a lot of what we do in
00:05:50.520canada seems to be sugar-coated in empathy or uh a super civilized approach uh you know like you
00:05:58.280say okay it was done in europe well they're there that's a very civilized approach they're doing
00:06:02.920better things for society but we have to at least match or better that for some reason
00:06:08.680canadians or our canadian uh the perception of people around the world is that canadians are
00:06:14.840always super trying uh and we get viewed i think as socialist in this way because of that uh that
00:06:24.120we have so much empathy in so many places that it's almost unmanageable uh yeah you know i mean
00:06:30.440it's sort of weaponized niceness um i mean our niceness the the unwillingness to cause a fuss
00:06:38.520or even suggest uh that something uh might be might be a bad idea so i mean you see it uh with
00:06:45.720with uh like gender issues so you know the idea that which is now the norm across canada that
00:06:51.960your gender is whatever you say it is at any particular time that was not the norm
00:06:56.040uh in canada up until 10 years ago i mean we've had transgender laws on the books going all the
00:07:01.000way back to the 1970s but it used to be there was a process and there was a waiting period and you
00:07:05.800had to get a doctor's note and there had to be an actual transition process and once all that's done0.99
00:07:09.640then yes you can you can live as a member of the opposite sex and then the new regime we have now
00:07:15.240is just everyone uh can can claim you know you show up and say i i feel like a woman now i've
00:07:21.640i've changed i've still got a beard whatever i'm going to be a woman we're all sort of familiar
00:07:25.640with that but when you look at as this was implemented at the local level at the federal
00:07:30.440level you know a school board here a human rights uh commission there um basically no pushback
00:07:37.180whatsoever i don't know if i'm answering your question here but um yeah no you're right it is
00:07:41.900it is sort of consistent uh i mean i mean people are saying you know and i'm sure there was voices
00:07:48.020at the time lawmakers saying i'm sorry what the legislation is you know anybody can just claim to
00:07:53.220be a woman at any time and you know so they can go into a change room and they say they're a woman
00:07:59.900even if it's just a guy in a bikini that sounds like it could be a problem but how dare you mr
00:08:06.520hopper how dare you say that yeah and as i document in the book there was people you know who thought
00:08:11.980uh this could be a problem but you know what i'm just gonna sit on my hands this is canada
00:08:18.500maybe it won't actually work out you know you maybe that won't happen you know that that that
00:08:25.400weird guy in you know with with the hairy chest in the uh you know the bikini loitering in the
00:08:30.560women's change room maybe that person won't won't happen so you know we'll just pass this we won't
00:08:35.500make a fuss and we'll just sort of move on with our lives so we did a whole bunch of those one
00:08:39.980after the other and thank the rubber started hitting the road yes sorry man do you do you
00:08:46.000think Canadians by and large buy into this I guess it's been described as wokeness that has put us
00:08:52.000into so many of these positions and I mean I'm looking at your list the housing crisis health
00:08:55.980care system harm reduction for sure criminal justice for sure identity politics absolutely
00:09:02.520government regulation and censorship all of these really are based in what you're talking about and
00:09:09.840what we're talking about which is okay well somebody decided to leave and go through but
00:09:15.160do you think most canadians get behind this kind of thinking it's it's weird because uh i'll often
00:09:21.720have very hopeless people get in touch with me and they'll say well you know you know have you
00:09:25.960seen the latest poll it's like eleventy bajillion percent for the encumbered government that
00:09:30.280implemented a lot of these policies and then yeah so it would seem to me that the the the populace
00:09:35.880is fine and accepting of all these things and they just want to slit their wrists and get into a warm
00:09:40.120bath and you know let the woke isn't you know take hold of them uh but i'll point out and on
00:09:46.240these key issues and i live in victoria a particularly left-wing uh part of the country
00:09:52.640um there's almost more pushback against some of these issues than you would find in a more
00:09:57.440conservative area because they've gotten they're at the sharp end of the spear when it comes to
00:10:02.200this so i mean i've had very lefty people approach me uh with who have very much hardened their
00:10:09.200positions on issues such as drug addiction or criminal justice. So the idea, if you just take
00:10:15.680a pretty basic question, are we punishing criminals appropriately? Are we taking dangerous people and
00:10:22.660removing them from society before they find more victims? That's probably the single most popular
00:10:28.900and unifying issue I can find, I can think of in Canada right now. I mean, you probably get 90%
00:10:34.940in any poll say no we're not punishing them enough we need to take dangerous men and they
00:10:39.880are mostly men and remove them from society uh you know permanently so something like a three
00:10:45.240strikes law which sounds really radical and that was proposed by the conservatives in the last
00:10:49.560federal election um i have heard um lifelong ndp voters you know raise that idea independently to
00:10:57.040me because because they've been broken into too many times that it sort of changed their thinking
00:11:01.680yeah so as soon as your community is infiltrated by any of this danger that really comes face to
00:11:06.200face with your family yourself starts to change your opinion i think yeah so i'm giving talks
00:11:10.740here in victoria and you look at the crowd and this is all uh you know old women in scarves
00:11:17.200this is septum piercing some of them reek of weed so you think oh so i'll show up on the stage am i
00:11:23.440just going to get ambushed is this some sort of you know antifa um you know honey trap for me and
00:11:28.740And then I'll realize speaking to the people afterwards, they'll approach me and they'll say, hey, man, you know, I've been hard left my whole life.
00:11:37.260I've been progressive my whole life. But something happened.
00:11:41.220And I'll just hear this stream of just heartbreaking stories of someone, you know, close relative died because they couldn't have a treatable condition addressed in the health care system.
00:11:51.700The waiting lists were too long. You know, loved one is a victim of criminal justice of a crime.
00:11:57.200And then they saw the criminal justice system, you know, openly favor the offender over their friend. They've lost close loved ones to, you know, the trans cult, you know, a mentally ill loved one decides, well, I'm actually living this way.0.66
00:12:12.520And they say, well, you know, maybe there's some comorbidities here and you should consider that maybe, you know, the surgery isn't what you need.0.99
00:12:18.940There's something else. I have to cut you out now. I'm pursuing this new life.
00:12:22.480So something has as as as bounced back on them in a particularly tragic way and caused them to face the reality of what Canada looks like.
00:12:32.900And we've all sort of had a version of that in the last 10 years.
00:12:36.320I think the sort of mainstream Canadian opinion in 2015, even if he didn't like Justin Trudeau, was, well, we still have our country.
00:12:44.740You know, we aren't there's nothing we're doing unsustainably wrong.
00:12:48.380We can tweak a few things here. And now I think there's a very heavy cohort of Canadians who are saying, oh, we are, you know, barreling off a cliff with some of these and some of these dramatic dramatic dramatic changes, changes the likes of which we have never considered before are needed.
00:13:06.320It's so funny. You say Trudeau, and I take a look at the list of key areas that you cover, and they look like the menu at the Trudeau Spa. Do you think a lot of this was born during that era?
00:13:18.180It was accelerated under Trudeau. So that was, I mean, again, when I'm presenting this book in a talk, someone will always raise their hand and say, I know what happened wrong to Canada. It was Justin Trudeau is what happened.
00:13:32.680But surprising, all those eight chapters, none of these bad ideas were invented by Trudeau.
00:13:39.080Every single one of them was already entrenched in some capacity in Canada before his election in 2015.
00:13:47.920So it had been passed at a provincial level.
00:13:50.680It had been passed in a Supreme Court decision that had already been brought in.
00:13:54.040You know, sometimes it had been brought in with conservative support.
00:13:58.820So a lot of these things were broken at the local level.0.96
00:14:02.680shit talk about guilty by association though because everybody i know would pin every one0.84
00:14:09.140of these on trudeau uh including myself so taking a well that's that's the thing that's why we're0.99
00:14:14.420seeing this uh you know you know this is why we're seeing this weird you know this this this strange
00:14:20.540behavior in politics right now is everybody just decide well it's justin trudeau's fault so they're
00:14:25.120they're seeing the 10 cities they're seeing the economic decline they're seeing all this stuff
00:14:28.760I'm like, well, Trudeau's gone. It's fine now. And I, you know, I'm as an expert on what's wrong with Canada now. I'm saying, no, no, no, everything that broke, that's all there. Nothing has changed. You know, Justin Trudeau was not the woke puppet master. I mean, there's there's key areas in which he accelerated it. And if he wasn't there, they wouldn't be as bad as they are now.
00:14:50.560But all of the damage he did, that's that's still in there.
00:14:54.120And, you know, Carney has done some things, you know, potentially on the economy.
00:14:59.000Certainly we're paying less money for for for gas, but he hasn't touched the woke stuff.
00:15:03.340So all of the Trudeau woke stuff, that's all there and nothing.
00:15:09.760We were at the at the convention in Montreal over the weekend for the liberals to have a look at what is going on there and talk to some people and try and have an understanding.
00:15:19.840what might have changed under Carney's watch.
00:15:23.520And like you point out, many of the things haven't changed.
00:15:27.260And yet there's a laundry list of things that liberal after liberal after liberal gave us.
00:15:33.000When we asked him, what would you ask the prime minister?
00:15:35.420There's a laundry list of things that he's already started to put to the side
00:15:39.820that are grinding the gears of liberals.
00:15:43.580So you think that under his watch, this list maybe is,
00:15:48.860do you think that he'll take a closer walk to the center on some of these things or is
00:15:53.740is he just going to continue to support these notions and some of these uh these things that
00:15:59.640are destroying the country um yeah i don't think um i i often i i my my assessment of how carney
00:16:09.280is doing is i say well there's some if you ask anybody in these issues you know who's familiar
00:16:14.140with these issues okay we got a criminal justice problem okay we got a housing affordability
00:16:17.980problem okay we you know we we can we can are we have economic decline we we have a productivity
00:16:24.540issue so if you ask anybody who's an expert in these particular issues okay what's the easiest
00:16:28.540thing we can do so you're prime minister what's your day one thing and then they all mention
00:16:33.660something that carney is actively avoiding so the a great example being an oil and gas so you're
00:16:39.820saying you'll ask someone an oil and gas okay if you really wanted to just bring in a whole bunch
00:16:44.540of investment into oil and gas overnight and then suddenly you're boosting gdp by two three points
00:16:49.740what would you do and they'd say oh you know the tanker ban uh you know like here's three pieces
00:16:53.900of legislation you repeal those and uh boom you know here here comes the money it's not going to
00:16:59.340solve everything but that's a really easy thing you can do and the carny government hasn't done
00:17:04.460that instead they put in this you know elaborate thing where they can avoid the tanker ban as long
00:17:07.980as it's a project that they like and they get to approve it through the uh so similar with housing
00:17:13.180and similar with all of these sort of woke issues on criminal justice.
00:18:02.300And, uh, and other provinces where, you know, you're looking for the right judge.
00:18:06.080Now that's, that's a unique thing in Canada that's come on and just recently.
00:18:10.100So in terms of Carney's performance, I mean, on these sort of fundamentally broken issues that I get into, if it's been a year and you're seeing him not even touching the really easy stuff that would make an immediate difference.
00:18:25.560I mean, he's kind of done it on immigration. I mean, immigration, it's pretty hard not to make some impact on immigration because immigration was just at all time unscreened, you know, the most open borders in our entire history.
00:22:46.900So poll after poll showing that the strongest basis of support for the conservatives, and this has been true since they made poly up leader, is young people.
00:22:54.540So the average 21-year-old Canadian more likely to vote conservative at a provincial and a federal level than the average 71-year-old.
00:23:02.180So when your young people are more conservative than your old people, that's never happened before.
00:23:08.340And one of the reasons that's happening is that crazy environment you saw in NDP land, anybody who's been sort of within the school system who has been a child, that's been a lot of their life.0.96
00:23:21.500And kids aren't stupid. They realize how insane a lot of this stuff is and how contradictory it is.
00:23:26.200I mean, because it's based on, you know, elaborate intersecting series of lies.
00:23:30.860So a kid knows that sex isn't something that's assigned at birth.
00:23:35.020um they can be told about equality and then you know they show up for a medical appointment and
00:23:39.980then they're asked what race they are and why oh it's just because there's different care over here
00:23:44.200um for for different races it's like well i was told to be equitable but you know you seem to be
00:23:49.020screening things based on the color of my skin and this particular thing so there's been enough
00:23:53.340of those or just the fact that if you know your standard public school you may have whatever most
00:23:59.120of the calendar days are transgender day of visibility transgender days you know at whatever
00:24:05.60030 gay days in the calendar um you may start to roll your eyes even for an impressionable young
00:24:11.520young child so you know someone who was turning 18 this year was 11 at the beginning of covid0.99
00:24:16.880lockdowns so all of this government bs they have been getting it right to the face pure uncut
00:24:24.320wokeism and kafka-esque government mandates um so wokeism to them is the man right of course it's
00:24:32.960the man i totally feel that now uh when we were certainly at the conservative convention the young
00:24:38.800people you saw uh you know not out in droves but the ones were there pretty average canadian
00:24:44.560uh kids and they had a real understanding of what was going on in politics and how
00:24:49.600weird things were getting and how their opportunities were vanishing before their eyes
00:24:55.040yeah you see these uh these this social media trend where it's just like videos of of canada
00:25:01.740from just you know pretty quotidian like someone walking through a mall or something uh or just you
00:25:06.660know walking through a street and young people will see it and realize like where are the tent
00:25:10.880cities where are the drugs where's where's all these things that i've been told are just a normal
00:25:15.740part of the fabric and you know as a millennial I can remember those things so it's been radicalizing
00:25:20.760for me because I'm here in Victoria I know the parks that didn't used to have densities I know
00:25:25.120the windows that didn't used to have bars on them I knew the areas of town that you could safely
00:25:30.300walk through at night that is no longer the case so it's even more radicalizing for someone who
00:25:35.120doesn't even remember that and they're finding evidence of hey you know I found some anti-drug
00:25:40.280literature from you know in the library from pre-2000s and it told tells you not to do the
00:25:45.860drugs rather than just you know telling you how to sterilize your crack pipe and uh this is this
00:25:50.940has brought me to new new realms of thinking well it's comforting to me to know that another
00:25:55.960generation is finding these things discerning and and a little bit debasing like because i i'm like
00:26:01.240you i i go to parks in my own neighborhood and i'm like this was one of the greatest places to hang
00:26:06.880out now this yeah yeah so I mean my adult my first 10 years after graduating school was
00:26:14.560every year the crime rate went rent down and you know a young adult now every year the crime rate
00:26:21.000has been getting worse so if you're riding uh you're riding on public transit every year it's
00:26:26.280just an increment your head is more on a swivel uh every year as there's you know more incidents
00:26:31.420of violence you know you're inhaling more meth smoke uh on public transit so yeah for people at
00:26:37.420the sharp end uh so young people and recent immigrants too uh have went i mean when i'm
00:26:44.380touring this book around when you look at poll numbers uh people who have recently come to the
00:26:48.140country and are really at the the front end of the disorder you know they're seeing the disorder
00:26:52.940at the sharp end um yeah they're much more radicalized on these issues than what is now
00:26:59.260the base of support for the liberals. People who already own their homes, don't have to ride public
00:27:04.000transit, are generally insulated from a lot of the problems they voted for. How much of your book do
00:27:09.680you think Polly has out there preaching? I don't know, but I will say I had this, I noticed this
00:27:16.480the other day. The book came out about a year ago, and I highlight the eight issues that are uniquely
00:27:20.920wrong with Canada. And then I was thinking about it, and I sort of wrote about that in the National
00:27:26.980post today and I realized on all eight of these issues the government of Alberta has made some
00:27:33.380sort of uh progress on all of these so you know gender issues made um just sort of if you if I'd
00:27:40.440handed the book to Daniel Smith and I said you know you've got a year do something in all of
00:27:45.120these chapters uh they've done something on it which so one thing I'd urge people to keep in
00:27:50.820mind you can be demoralized it's what about what's happening at a federal level but I mean the moral
00:27:55.400of the book is a lot of this dysfunction was implemented at a local level and thus it can be
00:28:01.640and sometimes needs to be fixed at a local level so and that's that's where people actually have
00:28:07.180some control they actually have the ability to yeah oftentimes uh i mean it's easy to say well
00:28:12.580canadians are passive they've accepted that you're often describing yourself so when people complain
00:28:17.200about that i say well when's the last time you directly actually tried to dial back some of the
00:28:22.140wokeism that annoys you so you went to your local service club meeting and they opened it up with a
00:28:27.28019 minute land acknowledgement did you ask them not to do that next time because I'm sure everybody
00:28:31.880else in the crowd also hates it but you actually have to stand up and politely suggest you know
00:28:38.420we not do this you went to your bank and it was just you know you had to fight your way past
00:28:43.160progress pride flags to get to the teller's window did you ask them maybe to you know take
00:28:47.740take the flags down um so i think a lot of people this is this is something i thought about with
00:28:53.420tipping lately you know how everybody loves eight everybody hates tipping they think tipping's out
00:28:56.860of control we keep seeing these polls saying 80 of canadians want to ban on tipping they want
00:29:01.740tipping abolished um but there's a very easy fix to tipping uh just stop doing it and then you'll
00:29:07.700see these same polls and they'll say well if i do that i'll feel awkward it's like well you have
00:29:11.400there you're not doing anything wrong you're being asked for money that they don't deserve
00:29:15.900it doesn't matter if you feel awkward just don't give them the money and and things will change at
00:29:21.200the employment level the employer will be uh impressed upon to pay more to keep people in
00:29:25.580that profession it'll actually that will actually change something i don't know yeah i say to be
00:29:30.760honest with you tristan you have to be yeah you have to start living differently um you have to
00:29:36.780be a person who can you know at least has the backbone to not pay an unwarranted tip and that0.94
00:29:42.700that'll it'll cause you to look at your society differently when you see just you know outrageous
00:29:47.680examples of someone seizing power through emotional blackmail you have to become the
00:29:53.180kind of person who can be prepared to make a bit of a fuss you can still be polite you can still
00:29:58.560be patient but you shouldn't just passively accept a lot of these things happening so
00:30:03.020I think there's a reason we became that way Canada was an extremely well-managed place