True Patriot Love - October 11, 2025


Why Canada’s Working Class Is Going Hungry


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Food insecurity in Canada is on the rise, and more than one in four households are dealing with food insecurity because of a variety of reasons, and a lot of it is the cost. Since the pandemic, food prices have continued to rise, with the highest monthly total ever recorded in March of 2024, and as we get towards the Thanksgiving long weekend, it s appropriate to talk about food banks, how overworked and underfunded they are, and how often they re being used now in this country.

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00:00:00.000 those numbers from the daily bread food bank in toronto are sobering frightening and shocking all
00:00:18.800 at the same time you heard what the man said a 273 increase in use pre-pandemic at the daily bread
00:00:27.280 food bank in toronto and unfortunately those are numbers that are reflected of food banks from coast
00:00:32.320 to coast in this great country and as we get towards the thanksgiving long weekend mike i
00:00:36.880 thought it's appropriate to talk about food banks in canada how overworked and underfunded they are
00:00:42.880 and how often they're being used now in this country uh yeah it is on the rise like no other
00:00:50.240 point in history uh you know save for the depression era and uh the stats are staggering
00:00:56.960 two million uh 59 000 visits to food banks across canada uh the highest monthly total ever recorded
00:01:04.880 in march of 2024 um that's really recent those numbers haven't changed much and the the stat
00:01:14.480 right now that shocks me is more than one in four households in canada one in four
00:01:19.280 are dealing with food insecurity because of a variety of reasons a lot of it is the cost and
00:01:25.360 you said something to me before we started i didn't realize this but it is true that you were saying
00:01:30.480 that there's a lot of people fully employed forced to use a food bank in canada no i know it's true i
00:01:36.000 mean uh more than ever before people that are fully employed and in some cases both parents or both people
00:01:42.080 in a relationship uh in a household are employed and still using the food bank to offset you know
00:01:50.720 the expenses that are just continue to rise on in food prices since january the price of beef sirloin
00:01:56.880 up 44 percent oranges up 40 coffee up 32 percent and climbing tim's just raised the price of their
00:02:04.880 coffee for the first time in three years looking back and last year to this year the price of
00:02:09.920 potatoes cranberries stuffing and gravy are all up in price year to year each and every year since the
00:02:16.160 pandemic a lot of basic staple food items and butter being one of them keeps going up and up and most
00:02:22.560 grocery stores my partner and i visit if butter's at 450 we get the max we're allowed to buy and
00:02:29.920 freeze the rest because the next time we go it's going to be double in price oh i think we've all
00:02:33.360 done the butter run yeah as we like to call it in our house okay what what do we first of all what are
00:02:37.280 we going to do with all this butter now that we bought it and uh why did we buy unsalted do you ever
00:02:42.320 get in that situation where you're like i'm salted what have i done well my partner uses it for baking
00:02:48.240 she specifically buys it for baking yeah that makes sense but yeah uh i do hate the shock when
00:02:53.200 that happens uh but no you're you're you're right like the basics that we build our lives around have
00:03:00.160 just become out of reach and that's where the food banks uh come into play 33 of food bank clients are
00:03:05.600 children i can't believe in canada thanksgiving 2025 that's a reality that's a reality we're facing yeah
00:03:14.080 and you just mentioned staples i don't want to reveal his identity for you know for just because
00:03:20.400 because i want to keep us anonymous but i know an owner of a no-frills franchise at markham who
00:03:25.920 basically is making no profit on sale of flower is selling at a cost because he knows how bad it is
00:03:31.760 and how tough it is for families he's not making any money on the sale of flower at his store because
00:03:37.200 he feels such guilt when he sees these people and and they know every sale and well that's the
00:03:44.240 thing if you weren't a sale watcher or a coupon clipper before uh you certainly might be now uh
00:03:51.840 regardless of what your position in life might be no matter what your status career-wise is
00:03:57.600 everybody is concerned about what they spend i saw grapes for i think 13.99 goodness a bag of grapes for
00:04:05.600 13.99 now grapes was a staple in my lunch growing up how can you make that a a regular nutritious
00:04:14.800 part of a kid's lunch at that price it's it's almost impossible and you raise a good point about
00:04:19.520 young people and saving money the cbc actually did a study and i thought it was interesting that
00:04:25.280 more 18 to 24 year olds are going to costco than ever before because they can buy in bulk and save
00:04:32.080 bulk pasta bulk sauces staples that would feed them and they're realizing if i can buy a big jar of
00:04:39.600 you know alfredo sauce and a big thing of pasta that's multiple meals jim i'm going to be honest
00:04:44.160 with you i don't know how good costco is for the retail market out there because buying in bulk like
00:04:50.880 that and and creating that uh retail environment makes it difficult for the no frills guy who's out
00:04:57.600 there trying to do something uh you know directly in the community but it it's all anybody can do now
00:05:04.880 is any means to go and find a better deal whether it means buying more whether it means buying slightly
00:05:12.720 off-brand i do like the kirkland stuff i'm not gonna lie by and large so people are making that
00:05:18.720 adjustment now big brands are going to suffer because they are that 25 cents or a dollar more
00:05:24.000 right now in canada from coast to coast it's unlike anything i've ever seen before that families of
00:05:31.120 multiple different income levels and social strata middle class working class upper middle class are
00:05:37.120 looking at trying to save some money buying groceries because it's such become such a big part of your
00:05:41.600 monthly budget so anywhere and anything you can do to save people are reaching out and looking and
00:05:47.280 going out of their way to save some money because it's such a drain on your budget uh check out this
00:05:52.160 stat from polaris strategic insights um fiscal stress many can't afford enough food uh a recent
00:05:59.440 quarterly survey found that 23 percent of canadians now report being unable to buy sufficient food up
00:06:05.760 from previous quarters by about 12 percent another report shows that food insecurity has risen 40 percent
00:06:13.120 over uh year over year over two years with 25.5 percent of households struggling to afford
00:06:19.680 food in 2025. i want to talk about that phrase food insecurity yeah what does it mean jim it means to me
00:06:30.640 that you have 80 dollars to shop and you need to buy 200 worth of food for your family and you don't have
00:06:37.520 that right you only have 80 and you have to buy the cheapest brands the cheapest food items possible
00:06:44.400 and stretch it as much as you can to feed your family to feed yourself for the next period of time
00:06:49.440 you have money that's what it means to me i'll tell you what i think i think that we've done a
00:06:53.840 disservice by using that phrase okay i kind of feel that the word is hunger yeah i don't think we should
00:07:01.200 water down the phrase hunger by calling it food insecurity for the sake of having a way to document
00:07:09.280 it or a way to statistically refer to it when you don't have enough food you go hungry when you go hungry
00:07:15.680 you become sick when you become sick you become a more uh occupied uh obsession of your family
00:07:23.600 you become a drain on our medical system it hurts all society it hurts society overall yes you break
00:07:29.120 hearts of people around you because your illness affects them hunger is the word we don't need two
00:07:36.240 words for it we don't need multiple syllables for it we need to remember that what we're doing is feeding
00:07:41.280 hungry people and when you put it in that context food insecurity sounds a little bit clinical and i
00:07:48.160 don't know why it's a great point mike why we have to sugarcoat the fact that there are tens of thousands
00:07:54.480 of canadians who are going to bed hungry every night how many stories have we heard about single mothers 0.96
00:08:00.560 who are using the food they have to make sure their kid or kids eat and are going without too many
00:08:06.480 stories and they go to work dizzy the next day because they've made the food available without
00:08:10.880 the proper nutrition in their body yeah and it's it's become an epidemic in this country that person
00:08:17.520 we would refer to as hungry yes they're hungry malnourished with a job making money and but because
00:08:27.440 of the prices of everything the price of rent the price of food they only have so much money left and
00:08:33.360 this is where all levels of government provincial and federal it's great you're building bridges
00:08:39.040 it's great that you're giving money to certain countries it's great we're doing this and that
00:08:43.120 we have to take care of base needs for the citizens of this country and that's feeding them so people
00:08:48.640 don't go to bed hungry at night let me run this by you jim 23 of canadians now report being unable to
00:08:55.600 buy sufficient food up from previous quarters another report shows that food insecurity has risen
00:09:02.720 40 over two years if i said to you jim canadians have gone hungry by more than 40 percent in an
00:09:16.000 upright in an uptick if i said to you 40 more canadians are hungry than just that has a way bigger
00:09:23.440 impact if i told you that 18.1 percent of people who are employed in this country are going hungry so
00:09:31.760 there are 42 million people in canada approximately give or take yeah and you're seeing 40 percent of
00:09:37.120 the country right right that's what 20 uh let me see 20 18 million people oh i'm sure the government
00:09:44.320 would love us to sugarcoat uh by saying we have food insecurity which sounds like you can't afford
00:09:50.160 joe louis right that's like 16 to 18 million people in canada are suffering from hunger at one point of the
00:09:57.040 day and hunger is a tough word to hear it's tough to say to the rest of the world canada's going hungry
00:10:04.880 no it's easier to say oh some canadians have food insecurity how many how many kids are going to
00:10:11.680 schools in this country without a breakfast how many people at work with a full-time job basically
00:10:18.800 have one meal a day one full meal and have little snacks here and there because it's cheaper i the numbers
00:10:24.160 are staggering mike i'll give it to you again one million unique individuals access food banks
00:10:30.160 that's up 25 over a prior year uh and this is uh last year 7.6 million total visits a 31 increase
00:10:39.520 over the previous year and 134 increase since 2019 the stigma was oh you poor person you have to
00:10:50.320 use the food bank that's not this that's not reality in canada anymore it's it's more the norm
00:10:56.000 than it's ever been ever and at an alarming rate 31 increase over the previous year and 134 increase
00:11:03.440 since 2019 that's 134 increase in hunger and mike we're about to get to thanksgiving the weather's not
00:11:14.240 getting warmer it's getting colder we're getting into winter and it's a scientific fact you need more
00:11:20.000 calories and carbs in winter to stay warm and vegetables and fruits increase in price there's
00:11:25.920 no way around it and you're staring at five or six months of even more hunger in canada more food
00:11:33.120 insecurity and more visits to food banks when they're they're maxed out and the majority of food
00:11:39.520 banks in this country including the von food bank yes shout out to von food bank on food bank 30 years
00:11:45.760 going strong fully volunteer they filled i think they filled a million uh meals unbelievable a year
00:11:52.800 in in york region up there but mike i'm thinking many across the country doing the same thing out of
00:11:58.240 necessity they're growing and they they take no money it's all volunteers um a lot of kids are getting
00:12:04.880 their high school volunteer hours helping but then they keep volunteering after they have their requisite hours
00:12:10.080 and it's at cities and small and median towns across this country and they're trying to get back
00:12:16.240 and help people that's what that's when i think thanksgiving i can't think of anything more
00:12:21.920 quintessentially canadian than the average canadian no matter what their age and background
00:12:26.720 trying to help people at the food bank i don't think i've ever heard anybody at the volunteer
00:12:30.800 level at the food bank ever use the phrase phrase uh food insecurity yeah i've heard them say we're
00:12:36.560 here to help the hungry the hungry yeah you know i know it's a buzzword and you know we're not supposed
00:12:42.160 to say that but there's no question that when you get to the point you're going to your local food bank
00:12:46.560 it's because you're hungry and you need something yeah don't let it become a statistical uh phraseology
00:12:52.160 that you get used to so i know the average person when they shop for their thanksgiving meal supplies
00:12:58.640 and vegetables and cranberry sauce and whatnot most grocery stores in canada have that little thing where
00:13:04.560 you can get a pre you know 10 15 and it's a bag of uh staple items and put and delivered to the
00:13:10.560 local food bank we're just begging everyone i know times it does whatever you can do one can of tuna
00:13:17.600 one cheap thing of peanut butter anything everything will add up and help people it is amazing how the
00:13:24.400 food drives uh they they cover these large events yes but all year long these food banks require this food
00:13:31.920 and thanks to suppliers uh of of the large corporate variety you see them donating people like your
00:13:39.120 friend there at no frills yeah uh they are all very good in in the community uh on this front i've seen
00:13:46.400 it for many years uh having family that are involved in in working at food banks having said that it is the
00:13:53.360 community and their ongoing spirit for food drives that feeds people uh it's important to note that because
00:14:00.000 if we don't we're going to find ourselves in a position where we expect the government to handle
00:14:05.200 uh food insecurity how did we get here i just thought this would be interesting how did we
00:14:09.040 how did we get here it's it's a combination of things the the price of rent went from a thousand
00:14:15.200 dollars a month to three thousand right the price of of staple items were the famous photos in
00:14:21.680 facebook and social media is i have a hundred dollars worth of food and now people come home from the
00:14:26.240 store who spent a hundred dollars and there's only a few items uh people are getting clawed back on
00:14:32.640 programs like disability assistance ei and social assistance have been uh have kind of widened the gap
00:14:38.320 between need and and affordability so affordability isn't even the question for many people in that scenario
00:14:46.400 they are desperate to get the food they they really need just at a staple level i know farmers in ontario
00:14:52.240 make approximately 45 cents 45 cents and a thing of butter that'll cost anywhere from six to eight
00:14:58.320 fifty so how does a farmer working from 5 a.m to what 10 p.m every day get 45 cents in a package of
00:15:07.600 butter in a grocery store and it retails for eight dollars there's something's missing there i'm not
00:15:12.960 understanding well there's big uh obviously big profit chunks that come out along the way you know massive
00:15:18.720 profit chunks and and i think that that's where we've over regulated to some degree where you know
00:15:26.080 there's only certain ways to do business there's almost like a cartel-esque uh approach to food uh
00:15:33.840 supply chain in canada and one of the things that was cited was pandemic and inflation aftershocks
00:15:38.800 covet disruptions supply chain breakdowns and post-pandemic food price inflation
00:15:43.600 have just remained we can't unring the bell that was coveted why can we not come back that doesn't
00:15:50.800 make sense to me the the covet ship has sailed a long time ago and the supply chain thing has been
00:15:56.480 so over examined and and we have no solution yet i can't believe that they're using that still as the
00:16:04.240 excuse to charge eight dollars for butter and you know whatever i mean you see the photos all the time
00:16:11.040 someone goes to buy a couple chicken breasts at the grocery store and like i can't do it and and
00:16:16.240 you're wondering why are people getting processed chicken nuggets because it's a fraction of the
00:16:20.880 price of an actual piece of real chicken now right and that's all they can afford once again contributing
00:16:26.400 to obesity diabetes all of these diseases that are associated with eating unwell then come back as a
00:16:34.800 burden on taxpayers and the health care system and they become uncomfortable people in our society
00:16:41.360 that are not happy our happiness erodes entirely in this manner and and and really jim i think that
00:16:48.080 i find this most irritating because the government our government seems to stand back maybe i'm wrong
00:16:54.480 about this and feel free to correct me our government seems to stand back and let it happen well inflation
00:17:01.920 is going up and well and there's a million justifications but we spend money in a bunch of different
00:17:07.760 places i would love to see 50 billion dollars just go back into canadians pockets to feed themselves
00:17:14.640 but we won't do that because it's food insecurity and not hunger we're dealing with but if you knew
00:17:20.960 that a huge portion of our country was going hungry you would see it as an emergency and you would do
00:17:26.160 something about it today i get a lot of feedback about true patriot love media a lot of feedback and i got a
00:17:32.080 a lot of people thanking us for what we're talking about because they're average canadians who even
00:17:39.040 if they're retired are still working because they have to right because they have to don't have enough
00:17:43.920 money to feed themselves they had a plan that no longer works because the economy has crashed around
00:17:49.360 them they're young people who got the degree like they were told and don't have enough money for
00:17:53.920 forever to do other things so they're doing extra side hustles to feed themselves so when the
00:17:59.280 government makes announcements and provincial federal all levels that we're doing this we're
00:18:03.360 doing that that is fine if you also make an announcement we're doing this to help canadians
00:18:09.440 the numbers are for everyone to see you can't tell me my local mpp and mp and premier and prime
00:18:16.880 minister don't know this they totally know what's going on and they totally understand in this country
00:18:21.920 what is happening to average canadians especially getting the thanksgiving weekend people are
00:18:26.400 desperate for a little help just so they can feed themselves like really thank god for food banks
00:18:31.760 because really what the government has put us in the position to do is barely be able to afford food
00:18:37.840 for our own families but also we must now take care of and most people thank goodness that our approach
00:18:44.240 to help feed another family will certainly do so if if possible but even their strain on families
00:18:50.560 that can afford to feed themselves out there trying to donate food yeah to that system that is there's
00:18:57.520 a gap in feeding people there's a gap in in nutrients that we're taking care of ourselves through the food
00:19:05.120 banks and thank goodness the food banks are there to distribute that otherwise i'm not sure how many
00:19:10.960 canadians would not be very sick right now i mike i i we'd be remiss if we didn't think a lot of great
00:19:17.760 farmers from coast to coast in this country who here we are at harvest time and are taking a portion
00:19:24.320 of their harvest and giving it to food banks well they're getting 45 cents on a pound of butter right
00:19:30.720 so why they're getting shortchanged on what they get for the produce and the fruits of their labor they
00:19:38.640 are giving back to food banks they're giving butter they're giving potatoes and carrots and necessities
00:19:44.560 to keep people alive because people are i think canadians at heart are good people exactly and
00:19:50.640 and that's where we have been left we're here now taking care of ourselves jim you'll donate to the
00:19:58.080 food bank i know you i know i know that you do as a matter of fact when our kids were young and we
00:20:02.960 would you know like hey let's go to the store i couldn't i was like sometimes you're busy you forget and
00:20:08.240 next you know our daughters both of them when they were like you know seven eight they dad don't forget this
00:20:14.000 it's the bag oh sorry about that yep got it and then they're proudly they put it in the bin no it
00:20:18.160 doesn't honestly when you are feeding somebody there's no greater no expression of love for your
00:20:24.080 fellow man i will feed you yeah and and i think that uh you your family happily will do that you have
00:20:32.960 every time you have the means to do that yeah that's nice but should you have to at a time where
00:20:41.200 those means are slimming you can't tell me jim i know you make 10 to 15 mil a year but
00:20:48.400 that's still slimming lira pesos you're gonna get pesos yeah well you know what still uh you know
00:20:56.000 you can throw the number around but the reality is even when it is more difficult for your family even
00:21:01.120 though you can feed yourselves it will be more difficult to help donate to somebody you will do
00:21:05.360 it and that's great on canadians and food banks because we've been put in this position and again
00:21:11.680 canadians at all income levels and all communities even have not communities in this country are
00:21:17.600 stepping up and helping and that's and they say it does my heart good it makes me so proud to be
00:21:23.280 canadian but all we're asking is when the government is going out of the way to help everybody else just
00:21:29.600 help ourselves now and then jim take care of our own the average uh family spends sixteen thousand
00:21:35.360 dollars a year on food okay now that's gone up to by eight hundred dollars to that to that part so
00:21:41.520 it was almost it was sixteen thousand dollars pretty much and now it's now it's gone up eight
00:21:45.920 hundred dollars more can you think of any programs in this country that might have been better replaced
00:21:54.080 by providing us eight hundred dollars per family to offset that increase to offset that hunger i
00:22:00.320 can think right away that i want to help ukraine all i can but there's a we are going to give only this
00:22:07.760 much to vladimir zelinski in ukraine and then we're going to keep a portion to help our own people
00:22:13.600 with the cost of food we are going to give other countries and other people x amount of dollars to a point
00:22:19.920 and then stop so we have some leftover for our own canadians canada don't let them rephrase hunger
00:22:27.040 with food insecurity it's a watered down way to say people are hungry in your own country sorry jim
00:22:33.840 i just wanted that no mike and i i don't think we can thank canadians enough from coast to coast no
00:22:40.000 matter what your situation as we get into thanksgiving they're going out of their way to do something to
00:22:46.080 help their neighbor i i mean that's that's canadian to the core now call your local mp and say that we
00:22:52.000 want our government to switch some funding over to feed us for goodness sake we're hungry kids can't 0.76
00:22:57.520 keep going to school without breakfast single parents can't keep going to bed hungry so they 1.00
00:23:02.800 can feed their kid not in canada not in this country it has to stop you got me worked up no i know
00:23:08.960 and happy thanksgiving and please when you're doing your grocery shopping even one little thing to your
00:23:14.480 local food bank and make a difference we got this