True Patriot Love - September 25, 2025


Why Conservatives Keep Ditching Leaders


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00:00:00.680 Let's see, we had Aaron O'Toole, too liberal.
00:00:04.300 Andrew Scheer, too right for any moderates to really get behind.
00:00:08.120 And now Pierre Polyev, too combative.
00:00:11.100 Why don't conservative supporters like their leader?
00:00:14.860 Today we're talking politics with TPL's very own Brian Jadon.
00:00:23.380 Well, am I right?
00:00:25.440 Yeah, you're right.
00:00:26.640 I mean, we just seem to have complaints nonstop from the right about their own leader.
00:00:32.740 You know, leading up to the election, it looked like Polyev had it in the bag.
00:00:37.340 And then the election just disappeared to not a minority or not a majority government for the liberals.
00:00:42.200 But it was a big loss and it was theirs to lose.
00:00:46.680 Well, OK, that election is gone.
00:00:49.600 I don't care about that election anymore.
00:00:51.100 I'm worried about the next one.
00:00:52.360 And what's bothering me more than anything, I keep hearing all of this stuff from just about everyone.
00:00:57.660 Oh, there's a likability factor.
00:00:59.620 Pierre Polyev, likability, likability.
00:01:02.300 OK, conservatives, who are you going to like?
00:01:05.740 You didn't like O'Toole.
00:01:06.800 You didn't like Scheer.
00:01:08.160 At one time, you didn't even like Harper.
00:01:10.140 He was too much.
00:01:10.940 He was too bland.
00:01:11.760 He was too this.
00:01:12.700 You get this colorful leader that comes out, addresses the House of Commons, does a great job in question period.
00:01:19.020 He does everything that he needs to do.
00:01:21.000 And then the conservatives start mucking about, getting into the weeds and going, well, likability.
00:01:28.140 I don't think he's going to pass a leadership review.
00:01:30.000 Oh, oh my God, what's going to happen?
00:01:31.640 Well, let me tell you what's going to happen.
00:01:34.400 If the conservatives, all of us, don't get off our duffs and start trying to make our liberal friends regret their votes, we're not going to get anywhere.
00:01:45.960 So that should be the conservative party's brand.
00:01:49.600 The liberal brand is crisis.
00:01:51.460 Mark Carney is crisis.
00:01:52.900 Trudeau was crisis.
00:01:53.880 That's how he was labeled coming in.
00:01:55.500 Their whole thing was, we deal with crisis.
00:01:57.600 We are crisis leaders.
00:01:59.680 And then based on crisis, they do whatever the hell they want.
00:02:03.140 And that's absurd.
00:02:04.360 Right.
00:02:04.560 So what the conservatives need to do is make regret part of their election platform.
00:02:10.080 You need to regret voting liberal.
00:02:13.380 Now, how's Pierre Polyev going to do that?
00:02:15.380 I have no idea.
00:02:17.040 That's up to their guys in the back room.
00:02:18.760 But that essentially is the problem.
00:02:21.400 That is the crux of it right there.
00:02:23.560 What do you do while you're in parliament?
00:02:25.540 You have a lot of members of parliament there on the conservative side.
00:02:29.880 What are you doing as a group to make change?
00:02:32.740 Being combative in legislature, that's, you know, interesting.
00:02:38.520 Question period, that's interesting.
00:02:40.500 But what are you doing to lead the party forward and combat the crisis chat?
00:02:46.000 What are you doing to stop the narrative of crisis that allows liberties to be taken, money to be spent irresponsibly?
00:02:52.860 Well, all you have to do is look back at the Trudeau government.
00:02:56.440 It was all irresponsible.
00:02:58.420 They just got in and did whatever they want to do.
00:03:00.520 The Liberal Party, in my mind, they thrive on this idea of cult of personality.
00:03:06.520 Right.
00:03:07.080 Someone that they can put in that they can control.
00:03:09.280 They play this long, long game until they get the leader they want or they need so that they can exercise their platform without any obstruction whatsoever.
00:03:19.540 Right.
00:03:19.840 At all.
00:03:20.580 Right.
00:03:21.100 So you had, they finally got Trudeau.
00:03:23.200 They put him in for 10 years.
00:03:24.140 That was cult of personality.
00:03:25.420 That guy wasn't bright enough to open a jar.
00:03:27.500 And then you've got other people.
00:03:29.780 Like, you've got...
00:03:30.760 Allegedly.
00:03:31.580 Then you had Michael Ignacev.
00:03:33.600 Great.
00:03:34.160 So smart.
00:03:34.800 He was stupid.
00:03:35.500 Before that, who did, oh, we had John Chrétien before that.
00:03:39.560 I'll give Chrétien some credit.
00:03:40.640 At least he balanced the budget.
00:03:42.000 At least he did something.
00:03:42.140 It's so funny.
00:03:43.120 The one stopping point everybody has on either side, when you talk about the history of political leaders and party leaders, Chrétien gets a pass.
00:03:52.980 Why do you think that is?
00:03:54.140 Everybody seems to have appreciated what Chrétien did.
00:03:56.680 Why is that?
00:03:57.480 Oh, I'll tell you why.
00:03:58.660 Yeah.
00:03:58.980 Because he was an actual liberal.
00:04:00.620 If you think that the Liberal Party of today is the same as Chrétien's Liberal Party, you've got another thing coming entirely.
00:04:07.240 It's been completely overthrown.
00:04:09.600 It was overthrown by Trudeau and whatever cronies helped get him into power.
00:04:14.500 They don't exist anymore.
00:04:16.060 That Liberal Party is gone.
00:04:17.720 Well, I think we appreciated a common sense era, right, where there was a plan.
00:04:23.820 The plan was executed.
00:04:25.080 We knew as citizens, as Canadians, we knew what the plan was.
00:04:29.380 We saw where Chrétien was going.
00:04:31.140 He kept us in the loop.
00:04:32.540 He wasn't out there trying to steal headlines or create narratives or virtue signal.
00:04:36.940 He did what seemed to make sense.
00:04:38.840 And I think that's what Canadians, that's why he gets this pass entirely.
00:04:43.040 He did one thing, one thing that mattered to Canadians.
00:04:47.060 He balanced the budget.
00:04:49.000 Yeah, we do appreciate that.
00:04:50.620 Okay, so Liberal Party, when are you going to balance the budget?
00:04:54.700 When are you going to tell you?
00:04:55.060 When are we going to see the budget?
00:04:56.260 When are we going to see the expenditures?
00:04:57.440 When are we going to see what Trudeau spent in his last term?
00:05:01.840 Well, let's go with that.
00:05:03.300 Now, Carney is a money guy.
00:05:05.720 He was the governor of Bank of Canada.
00:05:08.020 He can't figure stuff out.
00:05:10.620 He can't give us a hint.
00:05:12.560 He's not using his brain and his words at the same time to tell us what the hell's going on.
00:05:18.420 He admonishes media.
00:05:20.240 He admonishes the Conservative base.
00:05:22.000 He admonishes the Liberal base.
00:05:23.360 Dare you ask a question of King Mark, you're screwed.
00:05:27.760 It seems to me that he's been more focused on visiting his friends around the world as Prime Minister.
00:05:33.200 Look, I'm the Prime Minister now.
00:05:34.340 Last time I was just a banker.
00:05:35.860 Now I'm the Prime Minister.
00:05:37.580 It's very odd.
00:05:38.820 He spent a summer traveling, doing goodwill visits to places where he just seemed to hand out money and align us with programs that don't make a lick of difference.
00:05:50.540 Well, Mr. Carney, I think he has another long game plan.
00:05:53.980 And the long game is to run us deeper into the EU.
00:05:57.240 That's what he's going to do.
00:05:58.780 When Trudeau got in, what's the first thing he did?
00:06:00.900 Oh, we're going to sign this little agreement with the EU and we're going to do this and we're going to do that.
00:06:04.720 Sounds great on the surface.
00:06:06.240 Let me remind you of one European country, Greece.
00:06:10.160 Look what happened when they got into the EU.
00:06:12.480 They went bankrupt.
00:06:13.660 Why?
00:06:14.380 Because the drachma disappeared and olives now had to be bought for the same price as the EU, as the Euro.
00:06:21.340 And the next thing you know, they're going broke.
00:06:23.240 They can't sell their olives.
00:06:24.160 So you're saying the cult of personality is more important than the actual resume or the plan?
00:06:29.280 Because the Liberals have a plan.
00:06:32.420 They put their cult of personality on it that wins with the general public.
00:06:36.440 You know, he looks like the Prime Minister of Canada.
00:06:39.080 I can't deny it.
00:06:40.240 But the smug, cheeky face of Paliyev is a little tough to see as a leader, I hear.
00:06:46.760 And, you know, his combative attitude seems like maybe not a ministerial approach.
00:06:54.340 But it is, nonetheless, he's the guy, the face of this thing.
00:07:00.780 And we don't really see a plan.
00:07:02.640 We see a combat strategy.
00:07:04.520 And I think that's part of what's missing from the conservative approach right now.
00:07:08.340 We went back to school and nobody seemed to have a plan to get better marks.
00:07:12.780 Well, Paliyev's presence in the House, the way that he conducts himself, that is every leader from about the mid-60s until the 1980s.
00:07:22.140 That's how Parliament went.
00:07:23.540 Yeah.
00:07:23.800 Right?
00:07:24.140 It was tic-tac, back and forth, and that's what it was going to be.
00:07:26.820 So, I don't think there's a real problem with the way that he's conducting himself.
00:07:32.220 What he needs to do, in my humble opinion, is not necessarily tone it down.
00:07:37.820 Do what you're doing in the House of Commons.
00:07:40.000 Continue to do that.
00:07:40.800 Hold them to account.
00:07:41.960 Right?
00:07:42.140 Make them look like fools.
00:07:43.280 That's his job, yeah.
00:07:43.940 What's the number?
00:07:44.640 That's your job because I'm going to see that soundbite on the news and so are the liberals.
00:07:48.600 But what that has to be tempered with right now is some sage wisdom, the appearance of sage wisdom.
00:07:56.380 You know what?
00:07:56.840 You probably shouldn't have done that voting for the liberals because this is what it is now and you put yourselves into this position and, you know, we're here to help.
00:08:08.200 That's all that I want to hear.
00:08:09.760 That's all anybody else needs to hear.
00:08:11.360 I'm going to vote conservative next round no matter what.
00:08:13.560 I'll tell you that right now.
00:08:14.940 I like or hate Paliyev.
00:08:16.800 I can't do any more liberal.
00:08:19.900 I'm finished.
00:08:21.060 I'm finished.
00:08:22.020 Especially after this scandal the other day with the guy about the firearms and, oh, it's a waste.
00:08:26.980 Yeah, I know it's a waste.
00:08:28.380 Everybody knows it's a waste.
00:08:29.940 Why don't you go do something good with that money?
00:08:31.700 Like, I don't know, buy some MRI machines.
00:08:34.260 Build a hospital.
00:08:36.280 Use that money to hire some more consultants to balance the budget.
00:08:40.240 Let's just go right off the rails on that one.
00:08:42.900 Show me what you can do.
00:08:44.680 Right?
00:08:45.200 Do some ciphering.
00:08:46.060 Grab your pen.
00:08:47.100 I want you to, I don't want you to hold back today.
00:08:49.400 Okay?
00:08:50.160 Shadana, it's important to me that you just share how you feel.
00:08:52.680 But these are all good points.
00:08:53.860 And, of course, unfortunately, you hear conservatives consistently every day now, around me anyway, saying, what's the conservative party doing?
00:09:04.720 What were they up to?
00:09:06.100 Do they have a strategy?
00:09:07.280 Have I been left, has my party left me just to appreciate the most conservative the liberals can give me in the way of Kearney?
00:09:15.900 No.
00:09:16.260 No.
00:09:16.340 The party hasn't left anyone.
00:09:18.760 People are leaving the party.
00:09:20.620 What nobody seems to realize is that our elected officials in the conservative party and our candidates and whomever else is helping them are vilified to a degree that we've never seen in Canadian politics before.
00:09:32.520 And then once a majority government comes in, whether it's conservative or liberal, we're stuck with a king.
00:09:39.840 And they can do whatever they want.
00:09:41.740 And that's been the problem with the liberal party.
00:09:43.480 You think they're fighting right now to do anything, really?
00:09:46.460 No.
00:09:47.120 They're in the back rooms figuring out how to get more votes so they can get a majority to slam through some other garbage legislation that's going to screw me up and screw you up and screw up the middle class and screw up poor people and screw up rich people.
00:09:59.820 It's going to screw up everything.
00:10:01.160 That is actually, there's the liberal brand.
00:10:04.800 How do you feel about them stripping away speech liberties and applying hate laws that could land you in jail for life?
00:10:12.560 Well, let me tell you, I think that's a joke.
00:10:14.540 I think that is absolutely a bridge too far.
00:10:18.440 I don't like to make these, people make these things, oh, Nazi this, fascist that, fascist that.
00:10:22.820 I don't care.
00:10:23.740 Take that word out of it.
00:10:24.940 It's idiocy.
00:10:27.140 It is, I want to know everything.
00:10:29.100 I want everybody to say what they want to say.
00:10:31.820 You got hate, you got speech, hate speech.
00:10:34.800 No, you just keep the two apart.
00:10:38.240 I want to know where the crazy people are.
00:10:40.380 If the crazy people are in the street, I want to hear the crazy people because then the police hear the crazy people.
00:10:45.380 Then the government hears the crazy people.
00:10:47.160 But if I'm going to come out and if people are going to come out and say, well, you know what, the liberal party did this or they did that, they're going to brand everything hate speech.
00:10:55.640 Forget about crazy people, people with new ideas, people with ways to communicate about a topic that are difficult are going to be silenced when a solution could lie in that discussion.
00:11:06.920 In the words that people say, the intention could be lost, the context could be lost, and then these people can land themselves in jail.
00:11:14.560 Not only have we silenced speech, but we've silenced an intellectual in our midst, somebody who wants to share an opinion, whether we like it or not.
00:11:22.960 Well, let me just say this about that.
00:11:25.700 There are no new ideas.
00:11:27.600 There's none.
00:11:28.580 The left claims are full of new ideas.
00:11:30.840 Apparently our beards are proof of that as they match almost perfectly.
00:11:34.540 Yeah, there you go.
00:11:35.600 And I really thought I had something different here.
00:11:38.240 No, but the thing with them is, with the left in particular, is that they have no new ideas.
00:11:45.380 They all go back to that old idea called Marxism, and they want to do all, they read that little book and they go, well, yeah, this sounds like a good idea.
00:11:52.680 It sounds like a great idea.
00:11:53.680 So they don't have a new idea.
00:11:55.420 They're using a really old ancient idea that got people killed and saying, we can do it better.
00:11:59.960 That's arrogant.
00:12:00.800 That's stupid.
00:12:01.620 The conservatives need to get out there and say, you should regret these ideas.
00:12:06.540 I'm back to regret the brand of the conservative party should be to paint the liberals as the biggest regret of your existence.
00:12:17.560 I think I'm the only guy, you know, who gets a pretty even algorithm.
00:12:20.880 OK, because I look at both sides.
00:12:22.720 I have to for what we do.
00:12:23.760 And I'm going to tell you, there is nobody on the liberal side complaining about what the liberals are doing.
00:12:30.040 And there are all kinds of conservatives complaining about what the liberals are doing until our prime minister dropped the bomb that he is backing Palestine as a state.
00:12:40.480 And suddenly everything online is opened up on that discussion front.
00:12:45.840 But up until that point, the only people that are representing the conservative party are conservative people themselves.
00:12:52.340 The party is not out there really doing anything in the way of saying, well, you made a mistake.
00:12:58.180 The parties, the conservative party does not seemingly want to do what you're saying they should do, which is say, OK, Canada, you made a mistake.
00:13:07.740 You made us putting the onus on the voter rather than the party.
00:13:13.460 Well, the voter is the only thing that matters.
00:13:15.920 Look, if you're out there and you got to cast your ballot, you're not casting your ballot for your neighbor.
00:13:20.380 You're casting it for yourself.
00:13:21.480 So you've got to go out there and look, just search deep inside, Mr.
00:13:26.800 Or Mrs.
00:13:27.440 Liberal and take a look at yourself and go, why am I paying this much for hydro?
00:13:32.140 Why am I paying this much for food?
00:13:34.700 Why am I paying this much for oil and gas?
00:13:37.240 And don't tell me it's because the environment is collapsing.
00:13:39.780 It's because you made a really, really bad decision, a really bad one that cost everybody a ton of money.
00:13:45.960 And then they'll go, well, there was COVID.
00:13:47.740 I don't care if there was COVID.
00:13:49.320 Not my problem.
00:13:50.360 Look at the government and say, why am I funding wars?
00:13:54.240 Why am I selling weapons too?
00:13:56.460 Why am I spending $60, $70 million on programs I can't even justify?
00:14:01.080 There's not even a receipt for it.
00:14:02.200 Right.
00:14:02.680 Yeah.
00:14:02.880 I'm getting older and I want some money for me too.
00:14:06.600 Right.
00:14:06.720 My pension's not going to be there.
00:14:08.220 I can guarantee it.
00:14:09.400 So they have to get it together and ask themselves the question.
00:14:15.300 You're a liberal.
00:14:16.340 You need to understand why you're voting, which means read something.
00:14:21.980 Read something.
00:14:22.780 Don't just watch the CBC snippet.
00:14:24.620 I'm going to ask our producer, Nick, at the moment, just to get the defibrillator ready as I close off today by saying, Brian Shudan, thank you for raising your blood pressure and representing this side of it.
00:14:37.340 It's an important discussion.
00:14:38.940 I appreciate it, buddy.
00:14:41.160 Thanks.
00:14:42.520 That's it for us today on the Daily Cancelled.
00:14:45.460 For myself and the super liberal Brian Shudan.
00:14:49.060 Just kidding, buddy.
00:14:50.460 Can you call 911?
00:14:51.720 He feels a pain in his arm.
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