00:16:40.580So I'm slowly putting the pieces together in my mind here.
00:16:44.140I want to kind of give another Canadian example for you to wrap your mind around here quickly.
00:16:48.460So very recently, I'll give two actually.
00:16:51.140So very recently, the all-knowing CDS here who failed her interview gave two suggestions on how to bolster the forces in Canada.
00:16:59.960Because like I said, our numbers are not good.
00:17:03.100One could argue there's not a ton of intention to apply, although we can get into that in a minute.
00:17:08.100But two suggestions were put forward by the head of Canada's military.
00:17:11.260we are going to take two weeks out of the year to train up all of the public's or i guess all
00:17:18.280of the willing public service folks in canada to learn how to handle a rifle do a section attack
00:17:24.560learn how to fly a drone learn how to do cyber work you know what i mean like all the things that
00:17:29.020i can see the look on your face already of this two weeks okay two weeks yeah sure why not the
00:17:35.480example that i gave when i was telling this story recently was that i have walked through the halls
00:17:39.920of ottawa through many of these buildings that employ public servants um these are not the
00:17:45.360poster children and and again preface this with a lot of these folks are very nice hard-working
00:17:51.680folks you know i mean who are doing the right thing most of the time and they're pulling their
00:17:55.180own weight but they're not necessarily you know what i mean the poster child of someone you want
00:17:59.320to put into a combat situation let alone with two weeks of training so that was the first brilliant
00:18:05.060suggestion to bolster our numbers and as recently as a few days ago now up here we've decided that
00:18:11.640we are going to recruit trained trained military members from foreign countries oh so what could
00:18:18.460get wrong so we are now bent on recruiting essentially mercenaries for hire in combat
00:18:26.760they mentioned doctors nurses etc etc but when you dive into the actual details which i've done
00:18:32.080they're also recruiting combat engineers they're recruiting pioneers like people we're talking
00:18:37.320frontline combat roles for folks who are not canadian passport carrying citizens but people
00:18:45.660hoping to achieve residential status and like the number of things that can go wrong here is almost
00:18:51.440infinite but is this as crazy as it sounds coming from like someone with as much experience as you
00:18:58.520have in the U S military. Like how does someone so deranged and delusional suggest such a thing?
00:19:04.220And is there any hope that this goes well? It's nuts, Brian. It's absolute nuts. Who comes up
00:19:10.820with this stuff? What, what is it? All right. So we had the state of the union address here in the
00:19:16.860U S a couple of nights ago. And regardless of what, what your listeners do, or don't think of
00:19:21.120our president, look at the, uh, look at the gentleman who was awarded the medal of honor.
00:19:26.680and i'm ashamed to say his name is escaping my mind but there was this just heroic helicopter
00:19:31.640pilot and you go on x he's everywhere like he's like the new poster child for what a man should
00:19:36.760be he's he's the archetype that the west seems to have forgotten we could produce
00:19:41.560uh just looks like an american hero uh the kind of man that the image should be everywhere to
00:19:48.520aspire all of us to want to be like that you know heroic big strong amazing jawline right
00:19:53.720Right. A guy who is in movable in combat and still flies a helicopter when he's been shot multiple times and gets the job done.
00:20:02.160And then on the other hand, you had these two foreigners who are elected to Congress, you know, who are just jeering throughout the State of the Union.
00:20:10.960And you put them next to each other. And there's this great meme of paper American, real American.
00:20:18.760right what is it to be an american what is it to be a canadian if you're importing people
00:20:27.480to put on your uniform who have no ancestral or historical tie to your land and they're
00:20:34.680and you're bringing them in specifically to put them under arms on behalf of that nation
00:20:40.920who where is their loyalty really to are they really coming over because they want to
00:20:47.000defend the united states of america are they really coming ever because they want to defend
00:20:52.520canada and the canadian way of life are they coming over because this is a paycheck and
00:20:57.720their loyalty is actually to their ancestral homeland and there's nothing wrong with your
00:21:02.600loyalty being to your ancestral homeland that's the way god designed us like the nationalism is a
00:21:07.880good thing right but we get it twisted that this whole woke post-modern idea that infects the west
00:21:16.760that we are all citizens of the world and anyone who comes in that we give a a stamp on a
00:21:22.440naturalization paper now all of a sudden they're american or now all of a sudden they're canadian
00:21:27.480now i do want to caveat there are a lot of people who come here from other nations
00:21:33.080and they want to be canadian and they want to be american and and and they work hard and they they
00:21:40.280they acknowledge our history and they respect our culture and they integrate into it it doesn't mean
00:21:47.000they've turned their back on their heritage they still celebrate their heritage and they'll teach
00:21:51.000their kids where they came from and that's right and good but they want to be a part of this new
00:21:55.240civic politic but that's not what we're seeing across the west with this mass importation of
00:22:00.280people who are coming over not because they want to identify as us not because as the bible might
00:22:07.400say they want to be grafted onto our tree but because they want to take advantage of our
00:22:13.000benefits but then if the balloon goes up where their loyalty is going to be if there's truly
00:22:18.280a war that they can die in where's their loyalty truly going to be
00:22:22.280and and i think for a a sizable portion of them it's not going to be to our nations
00:22:27.160yeah that's a great response man and i agree with everything you just said again this is one of the
00:22:34.040reasons i want to have you on you you have such a well-researched grounded take in reality and
00:22:38.600experience um so in the same vein as that i wanted to sort of recall a podcast that i did a couple
00:22:46.040months ago with one of the other hosts of the show paul micucci who was asking me uh well we were
00:22:51.160going over a sort of an inquiry that was done into why the recruitment was so low for the canadian
00:22:57.080military like why are so few people uh applying why are so people so few people getting through
00:23:02.200which actually we learned was a bit of a misnomer because there was in the last few years there was
00:23:07.920almost a record number of applications in the canadian military so it saw i believe over a
00:23:13.040hundred thousand i might be a little bit off with that um in terms of applications so intent of
00:23:18.660course not all those people are going to make it through not all those people should make it
00:23:21.700through there's going to be folks that have certain deficits or fitness or whatever you know i mean
00:23:25.900you're not reaching the threshold of whatever trade or scope that you think you're applying for,
00:23:30.700and that's fine. But when you have six-figure number of people applying, and then you learn
00:23:36.320because of this inquiry that tens of thousands of the applications just evaporated into the ether
00:23:42.560because of administrative blunder or laziness or complacency or some type of combination of all
00:23:48.100that, the problem is not in Canadians not wanting to join. The problem is putting these people
00:23:55.280through the system efficiently in a way that's capturing them so that they can actually get to
00:24:00.320the jobs that they're applying for. And the example that I gave of my own situation when
00:24:04.560I applied back in 2000, originally 2011-12 timeframe, it took me well over a year. I think
00:24:11.220it was almost 18 months to get through from my initial intention submission online to sitting
00:24:17.020down with the recruiters and building a file and eventually getting hired and sworn in
00:24:20.580an infantry regiment in Toronto, but 18 months, you know what I mean? And that was only because
00:24:25.340I had the spine and patience and sort of audacity to continue following up almost to the point of
00:24:32.940annoying people to make sure that I was getting hired. And twice in this process that I showed up
00:24:38.420to the recruiting office to go through a follow-on test or a follow-on interview, two times I showed
00:24:44.180up there and they didn't know where my file was. They were like, we've lost your file. We don't
00:24:49.280what to tell you but you're gonna have to come back i mean so it's like the problem is not people
00:24:53.760not canadians specifically not wanting to get there it's literally pushing them through the
00:24:58.640system and making sure that they stick around and uh and and again you hit the nail on the head with
00:25:04.800nobody that i worked with in the military ever cared where you were from or you know what i mean
00:25:08.800what your background was or what color you were like this this is ridiculous like that that era
00:25:14.560of soldiers in my opinion is is almost exclusively been removed there's is there problems you know
00:25:19.600what i mean a couple people here and there yeah and they get rooted out and they're kicked out
00:25:22.640and it's not an issue anymore but to paint this as like some type of you know i mean racist or
00:25:29.280bigoted attitude towards bringing foreigners in i think is disingenuous and dishonest but
00:25:36.000upon hearing all that stuff that i just told you that we did have this highly intent or sorry highly
00:25:43.200driven group of people with this intent to join that we're now ignoring. Again, I sort of go back
00:25:48.840to my original statement. Like, do you think that there is maligned intention here in doing this?
00:25:53.580Like, are they trying to destroy the morale through what you could call sort of Hanlon's
00:25:57.940razor incompetence versus malice? Or is this literally just so many people working in the
00:26:02.640bloated bureaucracy for so long that we're now in this position where like almost literally quite
00:26:08.680anybody including unqualified leaders of the military are putting forward
00:26:12.920potential policies that make no sense well every institution has its own inertia and the department
00:26:19.720of war is no exception as a matter of fact it's really kind of the poster child for what
00:26:24.200institutional inertia means and what it does and so it it's the largest agency in the world the
00:26:30.520u.s department of war it's has its fingers in more parts of the world than any other government or
00:26:37.000agency bar none and so that's just a reality and the institution has always been resistant to
00:26:43.880following the lead of elected officials it just has and and it's and it said has grown particularly
00:26:51.080in the post-world war ii era this kind of 80 year span that we're in right now it is really almost
00:26:56.600become like a a sovereign nation state almost with the exception of that it can't fund itself it has
00:27:04.360rely on congress for its appropriations and congress continues to give the appropriations
00:27:09.240because no one wants to be labeled as being unpatriotic when when the boys are showing up
00:27:14.360with their you know chest full of uh i was their medals and um and so we we have that that's a big
00:27:20.920part of the issue the military for instance it was resistant to uh to the change of don't ask
00:27:27.800don't tell under president obama but president obama and i'm a huge critic of his i think it
00:27:33.480was one of the worst presidents of our national history uh he understood how to cause institutional
00:27:40.680change he understood the personnel is policy um say whatever you will about him and i've got a
00:27:45.480lot of really impolite things to say about him but he he is an extraordinary a community organizer and
00:27:50.840he's an extraordinary at changing how institutions function and he brought that to the department
00:27:55.240then department of defense now department of war and so he overcame that by by forcing out
00:28:02.520hundreds of top officials and then replacing them with top officials of his own choosing
00:28:07.480who were absolutely with religious fanaticism committed to his cause and he had eight years
00:28:15.000of that and then the trump administration first version came in assumed the military was all
00:28:21.480patriotic and would immediately do a turnabout what they didn't understand was the obama
00:28:27.800administration had so deeply entrenched literal anarchist and and communist revolutionaries into
00:28:33.960these senior many many senior policy uh billets across the department and and so it just the
00:28:41.400military basically gave him the middle finger during his first term biden came in and the
00:28:46.120military kind of almost did a now we're back to what we want our normal to be and they accelerated
00:28:51.960under biden and now trump is back in and i talk to people inside the pentagon with um i won't say
00:28:59.000regularly but not unregularly and i i'm told constantly chase you just don't know how
00:29:05.000surrounded we are and i say no i know exactly how surrounded you are i understand how institutions
00:29:09.880work this is my bailiwick you guys came in thinking that because we are the political appointees
00:29:16.520people will will suddenly turn around and you didn't bring in enough people with you and you're
00:29:20.680kind of taking a a i don't want to say i want to be respectful because they're working hard
00:29:26.120right and they're surrounded um but they i think they came in thinking that if we come in and we
00:29:32.040sign memorandums things will change well well no personnel is policy memorandums mean nothing
00:29:36.760without people willing to change it and so uh the pentagon right now is doing everything it can
00:29:43.080at the kind of mid-career and senior mid senior executive level if you will to stymie the
00:29:50.980administration because they believe once again all this just just a speed bump uh we will have
00:29:56.440another election in now three years and we will get back to normal of getting to do what we want
00:30:02.160and what they want means the continued progressive march through the institution to where the
00:30:06.620military is is really uh just people who deploy to wherever they're told to deploy and and lose
00:30:13.440all touch of what it means to actually defend the united states and so uh that that's a that's a
00:30:19.420hard problem to solve how do you turn that around and i would argue i i'm stealing this from my
00:30:24.180buddy kayla bird you you'd win that fight by not inviting good men to the fight but by inviting
00:30:32.840ruthless men to the fight and the problem is we have a lot of really good men and senior
00:30:40.340cabinet officials across the department of war right now we don't have ruthless men men who
00:30:46.560are willing to be unpopular men who are willing to be stymied by the new york times men who are
00:30:50.960willing to you're fired and you're fired and you're fired and you're fired and take scalps
00:30:55.600we don't have anyone to do that yeah this is uh i'm not like i want to say that there's sort of
00:31:06.200enough inertia in the folks that are starting to wake up that there is is it too late to correct
00:31:13.000the ship is what i'm trying to say like do you think that we're headed towards this cliff
00:31:16.360and the tracks are set and this train's going you know what i mean or is there time to hit the brakes
00:31:20.780or pull that switch that switches to a new track before this just goes right off the cliff
00:31:25.600Brian, I'm an eternal optimist, and some days I have to remind myself of that. It does not always come naturally. I think you always have to believe that it can be turned around. You have to. The alternative is to totally black pill and become a complete fatalist. And then if you're a complete fatalist, what do you have to hope for? What do you have to fight for?
00:31:53.700we've seen throughout history this this is the wonderful thing about reading history
00:31:57.940we've seen throughout history time and time and time again this republic just got completely
00:32:05.620off the rails and it was following the the humanistic arc of so-called progress and it
00:32:11.940ultimately ended up collapsing i mean every major empire of the world is that story then out of the
00:32:17.940ruins what's built right the we the paganism and the the horrific brutality and sexual idolatry
00:32:27.380of the roman empire 2000 years ago people would have never imagined that we would have a western
00:32:33.140tradition in in which life was respected and women were no longer subjugated as property
00:32:39.060right but that came out of that and so whether we are going to recover this nation or whether this
00:32:47.540nation is going to continue on its current track and burn in the there's always hope in knowing
00:32:54.580we are either going to turn this around or this thing's going to crash and burn and out of the
00:32:59.540ruins we're going to rebuild and and that's that's what we have to keep in mind that we what we have
00:33:06.420is proof the progressives they have a theory that has been disproven every single time we have
00:33:13.940history on our side to show that it always comes back it might not come back in my lifetime
00:33:19.060it might not come back in my children's lifetime but brian as a father i refuse
00:33:26.980to lay on my deathbed and look at my kids and and say yeah you guys can figure it out it's your
00:33:35.620problem now it's there there is no such thing as a biblical concept of retirement it's my fight
00:33:42.260until the day i can't fight anymore and that's that's the perspective i argue that each of us
00:33:47.060needs to maintain yeah i like i'm i'm i want to agree with you and i love the hope thing and
00:33:56.580again you're you're a better man than i for demonstrating it in the way that you do and so
00:34:01.140eloquently responding to that question the reason i don't necessarily share that sentiment at least
00:34:05.940for Canada, which I can speak to and I know more about obviously, is that as recently as like within
00:34:12.100the last year or two, despite the epic failures of these policy changes and these sort of
00:34:17.460institutional reformatting that's clearly not working, the leadership has almost exclusively
00:34:24.260doubled down to say, if you don't, again, like Wayne Ayer, I'm being told is the worst CDS of
00:34:30.500all time potentially allegedly will say uh was publicly quoted as saying if you don't agree with
00:34:37.140this sort of dei initiative inertia that we're trying to build here like you're a russian you're
00:34:41.620a putin's puppet or i'm paraphrasing here but it was more or less like you are you are a russian
00:34:46.660asset type behavior and it's just like wait a minute like what why do i have to be on board
00:34:51.300with tampons in the men's bathroom you know what i mean otherwise i'm rooting for russia like this
00:34:56.260is this sort of gaslighting propaganda nonsense that we just keep parroting up here leads me to
00:35:02.660have less hope i would say significantly less hope than you're demonstrating for the us
00:35:08.100i i know that there are a ton of issues that you've talked about at length i've listened to
00:35:12.100many of your shows and there's a lot of whistleblowers down there that have a lot of for
00:35:16.340lack of a better term balls to come forward and say some of the things that they've said and
00:35:19.860you've given them a platform to do that and god bless you for doing that we don't have the same
00:35:24.020whistleblower protections in Canada that the US has so there's a lot fewer people here like I said
00:35:28.820that call me and tell me things in confidence and ask that I don't repeat their name or credentials
00:35:33.540because they're terrified of what's going to happen to them their career their family these
00:35:37.540people have pensions they it's it's just become a nightmare and for that reason I don't necessarily
00:35:42.500agree with all the things that you're saying but I do have sort of a sliver of hope left that we
00:35:46.500can correct this ship even if it is sort of barreling towards this iceberg or this train
00:35:50.580is you know what i mean on these tracks that are laid um i want to shift gears here a little bit and
00:35:56.420it it almost certainly looks like the us and certain allies are going to go to war with
00:36:02.580iran do you have a take on this i do and this is a take that that probably sets me apart from
00:36:09.700some people who agree with me on a lot of other things and so i'm going to i'm going to do some
00:36:14.420prefacing and building up to it my default position traditionally is we should only go to war when it
00:36:21.540is in our national security interest and when i say national security i don't mean this broad
00:36:28.260vague term that you can fit anything within which is what the kind of post-world war ii progressives
00:36:34.260have done that anything at all can be in some way nested or labeled under national security that's
00:36:40.340not the case i mean there was no american national security purpose in going to iraq the way we did
00:36:45.700afghanistan there was not a true national security purpose and the way that so-called forever war
00:36:51.540was managed and the list goes on and on and on and on and an interesting historical side note
00:36:57.300at least on the united states side we have not actually fought a war constitutionally since the
00:37:02.740second world war that's that's the last time that we actually followed our own constitution and had
00:37:08.020congress declare a state of war uh and the majority of military actions by by americans have been
00:37:15.700just executive directed and and so we we have that's a whole nother issue so i say all that to
00:37:20.900say i very much believe the military is supposed to defend the american homeland like you you put
00:37:26.660the navy on ships with guns pointed outward and the rest of the force really should be here for
00:37:31.940american defense and and that should not be a controversial take that's how it was for more
00:37:38.100of our history than than it's not been that said iran is a scourge of the earth and the iranian
00:37:48.820government not the iranian people but the current iranian government the ayatollah-led hardline
00:37:54.500islamic government is the number one supporter of terrorism funder of terrorism carrier out of
00:38:01.300terrorism in the world and it has been the entirety of our lifetimes i i stood on ramp
00:38:06.900numerous times in afghanistan and watched stretchers with body bags on them wheel by
00:38:12.100undercover darkness and get onto the flight to return home and nearly all of them in one way or
00:38:19.300another have iranian fingerprints on them and the same can be said for what happened in iraq as well
00:38:24.740all so because of that and because the iranian people have been willing to stand up and say we
00:38:33.140want to we want to fight back like in iraq the iraqi people didn't want to fight back against
00:38:38.180saddam they want to make noise about saddam but they didn't want to run their own country
00:38:42.260in this case it's a very different context we we have iran the people of iran i mean they come from
00:38:47.460a a proud person heritage i mean they're a very historically grounded and culturally grounded
00:38:54.260people and enough of them are alive to remember well what life was like there before this islamic
00:39:01.700terrorist organization took over their governance and so they're the ones who have started this
00:39:06.980they're the ones who are standing up they're the ones who are finding they're the ones who
00:39:09.860are being massacred in the streets and if we can take action short of putting boots on ground
00:39:16.580that that tree is already swaying this is the analogy i use that they're already at
00:39:21.460at the base swaying that thing if we can you know lasso her up to the top of it and help
00:39:26.580pull it pull it on ever so they can finish the job i would say that would be a noble use of
00:39:32.100military power because if you can defang this iranian ayatollah you can actually secure the
00:39:39.940entirety of the world for the next generation and and so for that reason i do support there being
00:39:46.740u.s military action to help topple that regime but again it has to be done carefully it has to be
00:39:52.100done strategically we can't just be putting boots on ground and sending men and women into the
00:39:57.300wood chipper again with no clear in-state mission this i don't want boots on ground uh i just want
00:40:02.900to help get a lasso tied to that tree so they can finish pushing it over for us there's there's a
00:40:09.460lot to unpack there. I kind of want to quickly give my much less informed opinion on this,
00:40:17.940just of sort of what I know of the, definitely not as granular of a view that you have, but it
00:40:24.020seems to me, and again, a lot of the things you're saying, all the things you're saying there are
00:40:28.260sort of demonstrably true in a lot of ways, but it feels like from an outsider's perspective,
00:40:33.380again, junior officer only career, this seems to be an intervention much more like when we went to
00:40:41.200Iraq in 2003. It seems like we're sort of waging this war on this Islamic threat that, in my
00:40:48.600opinion, doesn't necessarily seem to be anywhere near as bad as they're telling us that it is.
00:40:52.840And that's not to say that they didn't kill a lot of people and that they don't train a lot
00:40:56.000of terrorists and that there isn't, you know what I mean, all these regimes being funded through
00:40:59.060these proxies that come through Iran and all those like those things are all true but it's not
00:41:03.820mutually exclusive of also we are probably being gaslit into something that is a lot different than
00:41:08.740what we're being told and that's the that's the feeling that I get as a Canadian as someone who
00:41:13.900pays attention to sort of the global political influence of everything that's going on and
00:41:19.500the whole Israeli side of this thing we could probably do another 12 podcasts on that alone
00:41:23.960of like what is going on there with our greatest ally like who really knows but i i do appreciate
00:41:29.880your input and um it's definitely well informed but i i don't necessarily agree with us doing this
00:41:36.040and i think the reasons we're being told much like the reasons going into venezuela over drugs
00:41:40.440is not what's actually happening um and i think that there's a lot of things that are going to
00:41:45.800sort of come to light um hopefully not over the next many years but sooner than that that uh the
00:41:52.680They were claiming that this is going to be a quick war, you know what I mean?
00:41:57.140If you remember how we were lied into Iraq, it was supposed to be, I think, two weeks.
00:42:01.960Was two weeks the quote that we were supposed to be in Iraq on the ground to win that war?
00:42:06.600I don't remember the quote, but I remember I was a young, dumb college student, and I was all about it.
00:42:11.580I'm like, yeah, they're shooting airplanes. Let's go in. We can never whelm them in a day.
00:42:14.860And we did. I mean, the bad party fell apart. The military fell apart.
00:42:18.540what what we failed to account for was what is going to fill that power vacuum because power
00:42:24.620abhors a vacuum and something will fill it and the people of iraq were not interested in a
00:42:30.540jeffersonian style democracy and we failed to account for what comes next yeah man it's like
00:42:37.820most of this stuff is over my head and that's why i wanted to bring you in like you you give a very
00:42:41.660nuanced very informed opinion um i i truly love your show i love what you're doing i think you're
00:42:47.740an excellent example of a of what a man should aspire to be like such a good example member of
00:42:54.620your community leader going to bath for folks that have had careers and lives destroyed over all the
00:43:00.060horrific policy failures of the last many years um i kind of want to wrap it up here and let people
00:43:05.260know where they can find you you know what i mean um your socials uh just kind of direct them to
00:43:10.780everything you're doing if you don't mind i'd be happy to and thank you for the invitation to do
00:43:14.780that um i'm at just about all the major social platforms linkedin x uh youtube at dr chase
00:43:22.460spears so that's just at dr chase spears no i do not have an ego about having a title it was just
00:43:28.540chase spears was taken on x and i want them all to be uniform and that was where i could get it
00:43:33.180uniform it's kind of funny i get some people trolling me once on on x like so doctor and i'm
00:43:38.780i'm like you call yourself that i'm like no i don't uh so anyways i distinctly remember you
00:43:45.660making me refer to you as doctor the entire time we were together so i'm not sure that's true
00:43:49.500oh yeah well i mean because you're you had to you had to pay the canadian tax
00:43:53.980so i'm totally joking folks that definitely never happened i'm just i'm just uh grinding
00:43:59.660his gears here a little bit oh man at dr chase spears on twitter um on x linkedin youtube and
00:44:06.300sub stack i also have a website chase spears.com pretty simple place but it's where i i keep an
00:44:11.740archive of all my writings on my thought work and so if anyone's interested in looking into
00:44:16.860my musings they are all catalog it and organized by subject there and then one of the greatest
00:44:22.940joys that i get to do right now is working with the herzog foundation on the finding your spine
00:44:28.860podcast and it's just we're we're just about wrapping up our first year brian you have come
00:44:34.860on and i was so proud that you were willing to fly up here and do that with me and we just had a
00:44:40.460great time and i was so moved by your story and uh and that's what we do is on the findings your
00:44:45.980spine podcast we have conversations with brave men and women who are willing to stand for what
00:44:52.380was right what was morally true knowing it was going to cost them something not the johnny come
00:44:58.140lately's when it's easy to stand but the people who stood when it cost you to do something about it
00:45:03.820and they stood nevertheless knowing that this is not going to be fun this is not going to be easy
00:45:09.700and they still stood up and we tell their stories to try to encourage other people who think like us
00:45:15.380to start acting like it i mean we are not the fringe minority that mainstream media wants us
00:45:22.120to believe we are heritage americans heritage canadians heritage members of the western
00:45:26.720tradition who merely want to pass on what has been passed to us to be good stewards and so
00:45:33.080i try to encourage people to do that through the finding your spine podcast and that's available on
00:45:38.980every major listening platform and we are also on youtube so you just look up finding your spine
00:45:45.260podcast i'm the only one with that name and if all else fails you can go to my website chase
00:45:49.640spears.com and there's a link to it there thanks so much man again uh you're a gentleman and
00:45:55.580literally a scholar folks check out the pods crazy crazy stories on there of not just military folks
00:46:00.900but uh people in kind of all spheres of life who are just coming forward to tell the truth
00:46:05.860and uh thank you very much for your service and i very much appreciate you not just as a contributor
00:46:09.860but as a human being well brian i just i i'm so grateful we're connected it's wonderful to be
00:46:15.620colleagues in arms with you and colleagues in thought and uh it's a joy to do this show i