True Patriot Love - Why the Canadian Air Show Sparks Controversy

00:00:00.000 in 1946 the canadian international air show begun in around the cne and now here 2025 the 76th

00:00:22.160 edition it is the longest running air show in north america and fans from canada around the

00:00:27.920 world come every labor day weekend at the cne to see some of the world's best pilots do their thing

00:00:33.520 i was there i was a part of it but not everyone likes it to talk more about a thrill to be joined

00:00:38.240 by my wingman mike and brady gentlemen how are you wingman i like that that was that was very dad

00:00:48.560 jokey of you but uh thanks jim for having me now full disclosure i grew up in an air force family

00:00:53.360 my dad served in the rc air force freddy air force freddy and one of his old planes was flying in

00:00:58.800 the air show this weekend the cp-140 aurora and it was kind of a big deal for me and i'm always

00:01:04.320 fascinated by it and our daughters are in their early 20s and there was a biplane they're called

00:01:10.720 the north stars three biplanes doing these basically they're flying information straight up they stop

00:01:16.640 fall backwards and like some of the stuff we were witnessing they stall out as they start on purpose

00:01:22.080 and then get back going there was another one where a woman is wing walking she's walking on

00:01:26.800 the wing of the plane in flight so and uh so maybe this is why air canada is striking i don't think

00:01:34.480 flight attendants of any sort should be i didn't sign up for this but the point being is thousands of

00:01:40.960 people of all ages of all backgrounds of everyone are thrilled by flight we've been like that since it

00:01:47.680 started in 1946 to see something that's that close and that special is to me one of the highlights of

00:01:55.520 the scene every year every labor day weekend well the highlights too is the week leading up where

00:01:59.920 they all kind of come into the area you see them flying over everybody's house and everything it's

00:02:04.080 really cool to see the old bombers and things like that right now i okay i've always been a fan i love it

00:02:10.000 i don't associate it with war or destruction i associate it with the celebration of flight oh yeah

00:02:16.560 and and look how talented these people are and look at their abilities it's something

00:02:22.480 99.9 percent of people watching could never accomplish the the innovative craftsmanship for

00:02:27.920 some of those machines back in the day like they're they're how many pounds does the average bomber weigh

00:02:33.840 jim oh i have no idea come on jim you must know this you're down on the air force i know i didn't

00:02:38.480 weigh the plane he fixed it well the fact that it's even up in the air uh doing loops cities in the

00:02:44.320 sky like a modern um the airbus a380 is a complete double deck jumbo jack yeah like 400 plus people and

00:02:54.240 it flies and lands and everything and for years it's the longest running air show in north america

00:03:01.040 everyone loves it however there's some people have taken it too far including a self-proclaimed

00:03:06.400 journalist in toronto seeing the air show in downtown toronto this is not merely a show for

00:03:11.760 people it is a deep trauma for the families of palestinians who homes were destroyed by israeli

00:03:17.760 bombings in gaza that's cruelty not entertainment now i will say this what at no time in the air show

00:03:24.640 did they simulate bombings did they blow up things they're flying i'm so sorry can you read the last

00:03:32.640 line of that it's not that's cruelty not entertainment okay there is a billy bishop airport for people who

00:03:42.320 don't know toronto well and it's right off the lake shore yeah and there are planes that take off and

00:03:47.920 land there from dawn to dusk every day jim every night home on the 427 i mean i think planes are

00:03:55.200 going to land right on my cars they're coming into pierce it's one of the busiest airports

00:04:00.480 in the world and those planes are flying over every day well i'd like to say with a certain amount of

00:04:05.600 respect to this journalist that that sounds like a it's based in nothing factual i can imagine on some

00:04:13.840 ex extrapolated uh spreadsheet of trauma this might show up there someplace however there's so many ways

00:04:24.080 to deal with this for example i live maybe 30 minutes north of the city didn't hear an aircraft

00:04:30.640 the ability and the freedom that people have to leave that area leads me to believe this is not real

00:04:38.720 journalism at all who's the journalist let's call them out shall we nerd dogan and you are

00:04:43.760 you are not a journalist this is based in pure speculation and you just want something to

00:04:50.320 complain about it feels like clickbait to me yeah and i understand that not only is it clickbait it's

00:04:55.520 wine bait correct now i understand okay someone who may be here from gaza recently could hear a plane and

00:05:02.400 freak out but i mean no and for that individual this this rare moment in humanity that's going to have

00:05:10.720 this experience probably has uh trauma triggers in many other areas i feel very badly for them yeah

00:05:16.240 great boohoo for you but uh if i just lost a friend in a car crash yesterday i have every right to not

00:05:21.280 get in the car and go on the highway the next day like i can't control these things like you you know

00:05:26.960 there's got to be some sort of why can't we have common sense why can't we have something the the

00:05:32.960 vast majority of people get great enjoyment from the air show yeah kids elderly people from all ages

00:05:40.080 all backgrounds just watch it the the actual segments of the planes last about 12 minutes give or take

00:05:46.560 the city of brantford looks forward to it all year round the air show it's yeah it pulls out the entire

00:05:51.920 city and surrounding farmers right at abbessford bc have them yeah they have them in the maritimes they

00:05:57.440 have in them quebec these snowbirds are known around the world there was a photo taken on the

00:06:02.400 weekend from a photographer that's gone viral of the snowbirds in formation wrapping around the sea and

00:06:08.480 tower how where else in the world do you get to see aircraft do this sort of thing right nowhere and

00:06:14.160 by the way you don't see aircraft doing any of this in a scenario that is uh you know a war campaign

00:06:22.320 no uh an attack campaign planes do very different i don't think there's loop-de-loops and in the

00:06:27.600 middle of the loop uh missiles are going in no no here's the other thing that people sometimes forget

00:06:32.800 as canadians no one has dropped a bomb from a plane on canadian soil in the history of our country

00:06:41.360 also i guess we can kiss drone shows goodbye and knock on wood most of the warfare doing is going on

00:06:47.840 right now is drone warfare yes so uh you know i i i can understand where this uh the idea for this

00:06:56.960 came from all right uh it's a it's a horrible idea for a story it's a terrible idea in the sense that

00:07:03.680 there's absolutely no basis likely for it what was the incident that led them to write about just

00:07:10.720 because there were some military planes and there was noise over downtown toronto and they thought it

00:07:16.400 would be triggering um i it's like you said you were in a car accident maybe does every time you

00:07:23.840 hear a car now trigger you but jim you've hit it on the head sorry uh brady you've hit it on the head

00:07:27.920 we can't have nice things anymore anything that people enjoy to any level somebody might be triggered

00:07:34.080 and offended by it too bad okay so i'm i gotta play like the dummy here on the war you're saying that

00:07:40.240 most of this war right now that are going or wars that are going on in multiple places are

00:07:45.280 are drone wars well certainly in the ukraine we're seeing ukraine it's 80 percent the only reason

00:07:50.560 there's people in the trenches is so the drones have something to shoot at right it sounds like

00:07:56.640 key installations and key targets i mean drones are taking out buildings and tanks and trucks and

00:08:02.160 everything so let's not even use gaza which was what this journalist was saying let's say the ukraine

00:08:06.160 i'm i'm racing from the ukraine am i going to be like our planes flying overhead all day long or is it

00:08:12.320 missiles coming in like i'm using some conventional mostly conventional uh but you know the one thing

00:08:19.600 that wasn't part of the air show was missiles being fired there was no gunshots no not nothing

00:08:25.440 not even a dog fight i think is included in the air show anymore and hasn't for many years

00:08:30.720 um for safety reasons not because they wanted to avoid triggering anybody but in some of these cases

00:08:37.840 even if that is the sorry brady even if that is the case no it doesn't make any sense to me at all

00:08:45.440 that that person couldn't be couldn't be isolated for the two or three hours from that event and i

00:08:52.320 don't mean put in isolation no no no no i could have been the same way you put the dog in the

00:08:56.960 basement when fireworks are going on so what i meant so my another thing gentlemen is there the pilots

00:09:03.520 and the air crews are quite restricted where they can fly yeah because you have billy bishop airport

00:09:08.480 which is still pearson so the flight space they have is restricted to a section a piece of geography

00:09:15.440 over lake ontario they may come over the city then they do everything and then they take off funny

00:09:20.560 enough right where we're shooting jim is the turn point yeah it's the beacon point right here

00:09:26.400 i got a little segue talking about the air show and maybe this goes into a kind of a weird space but

00:09:31.120 i was on the water in lake ontario about 25 30 years ago when yes it was a name rod the plane went in

00:09:39.200 down it was a british nimrod sub hunting point their boat that's how close we got to it yeah wow yeah it

00:09:45.280 went into a stall trying to bottom out of a thing and they couldn't recover if anybody doesn't know

00:09:50.480 maybe you can fill them in on the actual event of what kind of happened outside of the physical

00:09:55.280 but yeah it was so it was a british nimrod sub hunting plane and they were did what the aurora

00:10:00.480 did this past weekend on labor day and they do a series of flybys and maneuvers and they bank and

00:10:06.000 they show the wings and the planes and it's it's a slow graceful airplane it's not for speed right it's

00:10:12.000 to fly hours and hours on end and look for things and as it went to the bottom of a loop and sort of a bank it

00:10:20.320 was kind of going down and go to climb back up they had something happened and they couldn't come out

00:10:25.520 of their sort of slow dive and climb back up again and they went right into lake ontario so there's a

00:10:31.200 massive risk by some of these pilots absolutely putting on the show for our entertainment why

00:10:36.240 do we not get articles saying let's praise the bravery of them doing these kind of things for

00:10:41.760 our entertainment it's a great point why aren't we amazed instead of offended whining about it yeah i don't

00:10:46.800 know brady i mean anytime a pilot gets in a any kind of aircraft anything at whatever level there's

00:10:53.920 a chance something could go wrong oh my god can we stop feigning outrage over everything so that

00:10:59.120 people will click on an article there's so many things that canadians do differently than any of

00:11:03.680 everybody else but one of the things that we're losing which is about being cool to each other so

00:11:08.960 these are canadian pilots flying canadian planes at a canadian air show for our canadian entertainment

00:11:14.160 and our canadian journalist is like but think of the children but and here's the thing that kind

00:11:19.600 of got sick and that's why i want to bring it up it's irritating i'm at the stream here we see the

00:11:23.840 air show we spend all day there with our family and it is so representative of canada as a multicultural

00:11:32.160 multi-ethnic nation and everyone's having a good time and a good vibe and they're going to the

00:11:37.360 food building and they're playing some games and they're buying some fudge but my favorite what'd you

00:11:42.400 get what'd you get i got the uh chicken tenders that were wrapped in cool ranch doritos with

00:11:47.120 waffle sauce yeah it's fantastic and then my wife got the deep fried cheese curds so we're going to do

00:11:52.560 a story on food at the cne it sounds like a sweet man yeah let's go so good and uh yeah so it's sounds

00:11:59.280 like we might we might have to defibrillate jim before the end of the show it sounds like some of

00:12:03.920 that was deep right but everyone's like they're so cool with each other like oh hey sorry because it's

00:12:08.720 crowded and everyone's having a good time together we're there together and you know what we we not

00:12:13.520 that long ago we weren't allowed to do that and everyone was so happy to be there and it's like

00:12:18.480 it's always been the unofficial end of summer in southern ontario the canadian national exhibition and

00:12:23.920 people know kids are going back to school everyone's back to the routine and everyone was having a great

00:12:28.880 time so outside of this journalist if anybody was offended because of what goes on at this i genuinely do

00:12:35.040 feel for you like if you're going through pdsd i understand there's we can't control it you can't

00:12:40.560 control it i i feel for you hey guys um i'm a bit late to the game to this uh the producer nick here

00:12:46.400 hi yeah yes the uh resident lefty i kind of wanted to play devil's advocate go ahead nick now i i'm

00:12:51.440 personally not offended by the air show or i'm not necessarily thank you for representing the left yes

00:12:56.880 oh i'm not necessarily aligned with this with this journalist but um they're gonna there's an argument

00:13:01.840 made that these air shows now we have a policy in canada and the u.s of not doing military parades

00:13:09.200 and with trump's military parade that was a big big controversy and i i agree uh with that regard but

00:13:15.760 with you know on the sense with what these air shows are often seen as almost a proxy for a military

00:13:22.560 parade it's like we can't do a military parade but we can do this air show to show off our might

00:13:27.280 uh so to speak okay this is often the argument against air shows i get it i i i mean i get the

00:13:33.680 words i understand all the words and so sorry i have a gut level reaction to that

00:13:40.640 what it's an international air show it's not just our planes it's planes from all around

00:13:48.240 are you kidding me right now this is not even close to true and and by the way i would love

00:13:54.400 for a little just a little bit maybe i'm the only one i would love for us to to uh see our military

00:14:03.040 in uniform so that we could say wow we are proud of you you represent us so beautifully in the world

00:14:10.320 we respect what you do there's a million parades i would get rid of to have that so nick and to your

00:14:17.120 point um we have to realize top gun maverick did more to promote the military to the masses than

00:14:25.680 any air it's an fbi-funded film how many films are actually funded by the fbi you can actually look it

00:14:31.120 up it's this podcast is actually funded by the fbi i believe so the the scenes with tom cruise in the

00:14:38.080 jets yeah with the pilots on the aircraft carrier is the greatest display of u.s military might in a movie

00:14:45.520 and like look how much money it made around the world it is one of the biggest box office hits

00:14:51.520 we've seen in recent memory and the whole thing from start to finish was a a sort of an anthem a

00:14:58.400 celebration of u.s military might we need some context nick join me on this does that context make

00:15:05.840 any sense to anybody that because trump went out there and he's like i'm gonna have a military parade

00:15:13.040 on my birthday he's a big jackass he's uh this uh flatulent arrogant dude and and he's out there

00:15:21.120 standing in front of fat ankles thick ankles he's a gentleman come on i don't mean to but you know

00:15:28.240 i'm getting offended is what he is he he set the tone maybe i'm wrong about this yeah for what that

00:15:33.760 that military parade was what what i'm talking about here and what i think most people think that they're

00:15:40.080 participating in is canadian ingenuity canadian skill the the the pride that we have as a nation

00:15:48.240 that we can come together and and actually be together physically and not that we're actually

00:15:55.440 out there uh saluting uh mother russia i i think still people of all ages all generations there's

00:16:03.680 something cool about being close when you see a plane take off and land what are you kidding me we used

00:16:08.960 to park by the yes look at philadelphia at philadelphia they boo safe landings at the airport

00:16:15.280 i'm sorry i don't know why i said that but they do but no yeah you park every airport in the world

00:16:20.800 there's an area where people park and watch it and take photos because we're fascinated in life

00:16:25.520 we used to go sit at the wendy's yeah okay so everybody was on airport on wendy's and get some

00:16:31.120 frosties and some nuggets and watch the planes come in i think that's and i understand or some people

00:16:37.680 think hey it's it's a quasi military parade my argument to that is wait a second it's more a

00:16:43.680 fascination of flight they're not all military planes that's only a part of it it's true fascination of

00:16:49.680 flight how did they do that and how much skill and how much training and i know what i do in my little

00:16:56.400 world and how unskilled i am i can't believe how skilled they are i look at this guy and i see our

00:17:02.960 military ingenuity and i think to myself we could have so much more of this if we didn't just keep

00:17:08.640 giving it away to other countries around the world it wasn't stations and here's the thing

00:17:13.920 that people forget too anti-lock brakes in a car that comes from the military right because my dad

00:17:20.240 was in the air force and they got jets when the pilots landed they put the brakes on but the landing

00:17:26.080 speed was so much faster than old propeller planes they were blowing out the brakes and tires

00:17:30.640 so they invented anti-lock brakes so they wouldn't blow up the tires and james we all benefit from

00:17:35.760 that every day biggest form of entertainment in the world is video games how did that start

00:17:39.680 radar machines and and flight simulators yeah hey so well no but they had they have flight simulators to

00:17:47.040 train pilots and someone had the idea why don't we make a home version for people have you seen some

00:17:53.040 of the home setups for these others got a whole set up what they'll it looks like a cockpit of an

00:17:57.920 airplane yeah it's nuts um the one thing about the air show that i think endures is our our fascination

00:18:06.560 humankind's fascination with powered flight yeah has not changed since the wright brothers

00:18:12.000 to this day we're like wow you know what like they just landed a plane so i know part of my dad's

00:18:19.120 job in the military they would fly supplies and humanitarian aid to other countries some canadian

00:18:23.760 military bases and a c-130 hercules would open up and ramp and they pull out all this food and

00:18:29.520 medicine for countries around the world huge pounds that would fill multi-tractor trailers

00:18:34.800 does this fill that does that fill that void of human beings we all just want to fly we always have

00:18:39.440 every philosopher has always stared at the birds and or stared at the stars and been like i want to

00:18:43.440 travel through space and fly okay luke skywalker in the first star wars we had this little machine

00:18:48.720 that's like two feet off the ground flying like everyone oh man i wanted one of those so bad it's

00:18:53.440 just a little bit but it's flying but it's flying and and years ago they thought well one day we won't

00:18:59.280 even be stuck in traffic in the 401 or the c to span highway or highway 101 nova scotia or the transcat

00:19:05.760 of highway come back we're going to be flying to work and and by the way if you want to complain about the

00:19:09.680 air show let's complain about this it clogs the highways byways and every road around it we need to come up

00:19:17.440 with a solution for that there is no place for you to sit once the lawn is taken up could we find

00:19:23.920 another seating arrangement for this thing i don't think anybody can order beers to where they're

00:19:29.600 sitting we could probably work that out we do have gps all of these things that could be complained

00:19:34.640 about nobody is complaining about gps airplane technology there you go head up display airplane

00:19:42.320 technology which is standard in every new car now yeah that's all airplane technology he's got a

00:19:47.760 fancy car that's why i know what my wife does but it's been translated to every day so a lot of the

00:19:54.160 stuff we take for granted on our cars driving families and friends around or all have sort of

00:20:00.240 the evolution of flight and saying let's translate this because we use it in commercial airplanes and

00:20:05.760 military airplanes let's put it on passenger vehicles and we do and let's not forget this probably

00:20:10.800 inspired balloon boy so yeah well yeah at least that he's brady he's mike we just solve the world's

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True Patriot Love - October 04, 2025

Why the Canadian Air Show Sparks Controversy ｜ The Debate That Divides!

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