Truth Podcast - Vivek Ramaswamy - Glenn Beck & Vivek Ramaswamy Unpack Eternal Values | The TRUTH Podcast #30

Glenn Beck joins me to talk about the importance of compassion and understanding the world around us, and why we should all be better at it. He also talks about the horrors of the Weimar Republic, and how important it is to be compassionate and open to other people. Glenn Beck is an American conservative commentator, pundit, and radio host who has been a part of the conservative movement since the early 1980s. He is a frequent guest host on conservative talk radio shows and radio talk shows, and is one of the most influential conservative voices in the country. He is also a frequent contributor to conservative publications such as The Weekly Standard, National Post, and National Post Magazine. Glenn also hosts the conservative radio show "The Glenn Beck Show" on SiriusXM Radio and is a regular contributor on Fox News Radio and conservative talk show host on the conservative network Glenn Beck Radio and TV. Thank you for listening to the Glenn Beck show. Please don't forget to SUBSCRIBE and leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts and other podcasting platforms! I'll be looking out for your comments and thoughts on the next episode. Timestamps: 1:00 - What's good to go to? 4:30 - What is Good to Go To? 6:15 - Why we should be compassionate? 8:00 9:40 - What does God want us to do? 11:20 - How do we need compassion? 16:00- What do we can be compassionate in the world? 17: What should we do to make the world better? 18: What is a compassionate human being? 19:15 21: What are we all good to do in life? 22:00 | What is the best thing we can we can learn from the past? 27:30 | What can we learn from other people? 26:40 | What does the world have in a better place? 29:30 32:40 33:30 Is there something for us all of us? 35: What do you have to do to better ourselves? 36:20 | What are you going to do with that? 37: What would you want? 39:00 + 35: Is there a better way to be a better country? 40:20 45:00 Is it possible to be kinder than a better version of Jesus Christ? 44:00 Do you have a better God?

00:00:02.000 I'm joined today by one of my heroes, actually,

00:00:28.000 Someone who has been listening to since I was a kid, on and off.

00:00:33.000 Mostly via my parents and others who pointed me to him.

00:00:39.000 And now I've had a chance to meet him and befriend him.

00:00:43.000 And one of the things I love about him is that he's...

00:00:47.000 It's two things about him that I think are...

00:00:52.000 True.

00:00:52.000 Man, if we could use that as an example for our kids, I think where would we be heading as a country?

00:00:58.000 He's honest.

00:01:00.000 He always says what he actually thinks, not what somebody wants to hear.

00:01:05.000 And he's also open to changing his mind.

00:01:07.000 He's honest and has convictions and an open heart at the same time.

00:01:12.000 And man, is that a blend of quality that we could use in our country right now.

00:01:17.000 My friend, Glenn Beck.

00:01:19.000 Thanks for joining me, Glenn.

00:01:20.000 Thank you.

00:01:22.000 You and I had a chat off air, and I know you're, like many Americans, like all of us in some ways, going through struggle.

00:01:33.000 It's part of our experience.

00:01:36.000 I appreciate you joining.

00:01:37.000 Thank you.

00:01:39.000 We are living in interesting times and we have divorced ourselves from truth.

00:01:46.000 I don't know if you've ever read Rudyard Kipling, The Gods of the Copybook Headings.

00:01:51.000 But you should.

00:01:52.000 I have not.

00:01:53.000 He wrote that in, I think, 1919 after World War I, and it was all about building a new world, a very utopia.

00:02:08.000 And you just start disconnecting from eternal truths, and you pay for it in the end.

00:02:16.000 But...

00:02:17.000 You know, as he says, the last line is, with terror and slaughter, the copybook headings return.

00:02:26.000 And the copybook headings were, you know, what you used to, when I was a kid at least, you'd have, you know, it'd say, water is wet.

00:02:33.000 And it would be in a cursive handwriting and you would have to just keep writing water is wet until you got it right.

00:02:40.000 And those were all truisms that no one could argue with.

00:02:43.000 And we're just, we've completely detached from them.

00:02:47.000 Uh, and we have, uh, entered a world of social media that has captivated our children, uh, and taken them down a road along with our schools that is just, I wouldn't want to be a 16 year old kid right now.

00:03:06.000 What is true?

00:03:07.000 Where do you go to find truth?

00:03:10.000 Um, and, uh, and it's happening in all of our society, but, uh, You know, the truth will win eventually.

00:03:19.000 We're just in one of those time periods the world goes through once in a while.

00:03:25.000 Why do you think that is?

00:03:27.000 I don't know why it starts, but I'm a faith guy and I do believe there is evil.

00:03:36.000 And I think we are in a very dangerous position on so many levels and a battle against good and evil.

00:03:48.000 You know, there's there's something for compassion.

00:03:51.000 We have to be compassionate people.

00:03:54.000 There is something about being open and and and accepting of other people.

00:04:01.000 And there are different choices.

00:04:02.000 We are all, I believe, sent here to Earth to try to better ourselves and to wield the power that we all have.

00:04:11.000 I mean, the thought, all thought is created.

00:04:16.000 And so we have amazing creator powers within us.

00:04:21.000 And to be able to wield that and still be compassionate, not ego-centered, and to really balance yourself as a human being, I think that's why we're here, to try to master that.

00:04:34.000 And there are those that just...

00:04:37.000 Want their own power or believe their own bullcrap and think that they're the ones to make all the decisions for everybody else.

00:04:46.000 And it becomes twisted and evil and then it just spirals out of control.

00:04:52.000 I've been reading about the Weimar Republic lately and learning some things that I just never knew.

00:05:00.000 Do you know what the first books were that they burned in Germany and everybody cheered?

00:05:06.000 I don't.

00:05:08.000 This will blow your mind.

00:05:09.000 1925, the very first transsexual surgery happened at the University of Sexology.

00:05:20.000 I don't know what its German name was.

00:05:23.000 Okay.

00:05:23.000 By a doctor that really was kind of the center of the LGBTQ movement back then.

00:05:31.000 Weimar became a very, very... 0.80

00:05:34.000 You know, if you saw the movie Cabaret, that's what this was about.

00:05:40.000 It became a very vile society.

00:05:42.000 The churches had already died and society went downhill.

00:05:48.000 And at the end of the Weimar Republic, who comes in Hitler and he says, I can restore the glory of. 0.98

00:05:57.000 And the churches were so dead inside, they no longer had compassion for people.

00:06:03.000 Instead, what they had was, make it stop.

00:06:07.000 And the first books that were burned were all the books on transgender and LGBTQ. And all the churches and everybody cheered and We're good to

00:06:42.000 go.

00:06:44.000 Night and day, I can think that you're doing evil, but you're not an evil person.

00:06:50.000 God wants all of us to be happy and whole.

00:06:55.000 If we close our heart to that love thy neighbor, do unto others kind of philosophy, we don't make it.

00:07:04.000 We don't make it.

00:07:05.000 We'll end up exactly like they were in the Weimar Republic or in Nazi Germany. 0.94

00:07:10.000 We'll just start killing each other. 0.96

00:07:12.000 And Glenn, I think that, I mean, that is coming from your vantage point, right?

00:07:17.000 And your voice in this.

00:07:19.000 That is powerful.

00:07:20.000 Because it is easy to preach to someone else's tribe, but much harder to preach to our own.

00:07:30.000 And I think that One of the things I think, you know, frankly, you and I may share in common here is that I think our people who share the views you and I do understand that we see the problem, that you see the problem as it exists,

00:07:46.000 and yet recognize that compassion is still the solution, and that that is actually practicing what we preach is the best way to actually lead out of our current It's the only way to lead.

00:08:01.000 And I'm just as afraid of the extremes on my side or somebody else's side.

00:08:09.000 People are people.

00:08:11.000 These are human conditions.

00:08:13.000 And if we don't guard our heart, I mean, I really studied Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

00:08:21.000 I don't know if you know who he is.

00:08:23.000 I do.

00:08:24.000 Yeah.

00:08:24.000 So I really studied and he kept saying, I've got to get together with Gandhi.

00:08:29.000 I have to talk to Mr. Gandhi.

00:08:31.000 He's doing something in India that I'm missing something.

00:08:35.000 He didn't miss anything.

00:08:37.000 His timing was wrong.

00:08:39.000 His timing, the society had gone dead inside and the Judeo-Christian values We're gone and they were just going through the motions. 0.68

00:08:51.000 I'm very concerned that our preachers are not standing up and leading the way, not on politics, but on truth.

00:09:00.000 Look, there are certain things that are true and you can't violate those things.

00:09:06.000 You can live that way if you want, but as a society, We cannot accept things and deny eternal truths.

00:09:18.000 Otherwise, we'll close our hearts and it all becomes meaningless.

00:09:22.000 What does church mean if it's not about church?

00:09:25.000 If it's not about God and what God wants for His children, which is to love one another.

00:09:32.000 And you can't do that if you're lying to yourself and to others.

00:09:37.000 And so, let's just take the harder case now.

00:09:40.000 Let's go back to your 1925, you know, post-Hitler example. 0.83

00:09:44.000 I think that...

00:09:45.000 So, I agree with everything you said.

00:09:47.000 Of course, I think I'm...

00:09:49.000 I couldn't have said it better myself.

00:09:52.000 But how do you deal with the assault on truth...

00:10:00.000 But to do it in a way that harnesses compassion in a way that nonetheless, you know, doesn't recreate the enemy.

00:10:09.000 That was the point you were making with the Weimar Republic and the first books they were burning and banning and where that led.

00:10:16.000 And yet, you know, I think it is, I don't know where you are this, but it is true that there are two genders.

00:10:22.000 There's an assault on truth there.

00:10:24.000 How do you How do you cut through the assault on truth with compassion?

00:10:31.000 Boy, if I knew that, we could solve all kinds of problems.

00:10:36.000 But I will tell you, the harder you struggle, the...

00:10:46.000 Perhaps the more important it is that you embrace the compassion.

00:10:52.000 I also believe what's being taught in all media, and I include myself in the media, I'm not pointing to people, I'm pointing to conditions.

00:11:06.000 The fact that there is no truth.

00:11:11.000 Our kids are so confused right now.

00:11:16.000 And they just don't know what to do.

00:11:19.000 They're not interacting with each other.

00:11:21.000 There's not personal contact with one another.

00:11:24.000 It's just a different world.

00:11:27.000 And I'm not saying, we got to go back to the way it was when I was a kid.

00:11:31.000 That's not the answer.

00:11:33.000 But we do have to return to certain fundamental truths.

00:11:38.000 And it could be very easy for me To point to The villains that, you know, people point to.

00:11:52.000 But this isn't about that.

00:11:54.000 This is about a universal condition that is happening all over the world.

00:12:01.000 And Martin Luther King made it very clear, you cannot defeat hatred with hatred.

00:12:09.000 It must be love.

00:12:12.000 It is, you know, I was in Alaska one time.

00:12:19.000 And I was feeling quite humble at the time.

00:12:25.000 When I'm not humble, I don't necessarily react the right way.

00:12:30.000 And I was feeling quite humble.

00:12:32.000 And this woman was across the street and she saw me. 0.98

00:12:36.000 I'm in, I don't even know, Anchorage.

00:12:38.000 And she sees me across the street.

00:12:40.000 And I'm with my children.

00:12:42.000 And she just starts screaming at me. 1.00

00:12:47.000 Hater! 0.89

00:12:48.000 Hatemonger! 1.00

00:12:49.000 Racist! 1.00

00:12:49.000 And she came across the street. 1.00

00:12:51.000 My security took my kids away.

00:12:54.000 And she just started screaming at me. 1.00

00:12:58.000 And I didn't know what to say.

00:13:00.000 And so I just said, sincerely...

00:13:04.000 I love you.

00:13:05.000 Because I was humble enough at that time to see, this is my sister that doesn't know me.

00:13:13.000 And I don't know her.

00:13:15.000 And I'm sure there are things that she's heard, read, and things that I have said that maybe taken out of context has created something in her.

00:13:26.000 And she got even more angry.

00:13:28.000 And I responded again, I love you.

00:13:33.000 That eventually doesn't have a happy ending to the story other than it didn't escalate.

00:13:38.000 She got frustrated and turned around and walked away quietly. 0.99

00:13:44.000 If we throw logs on the fire or strike out, even if we're in the right, we lose.

00:13:56.000 We lose everything.

00:13:58.000 It won't end well.

00:13:59.000 We're in the midst now of dehumanizing.

00:14:03.000 All sides.

00:14:04.000 You're either with me or you are an enemy to everything I hold dear.

00:14:11.000 That's not true.

00:14:13.000 People are not.

00:14:15.000 The ideas and things that are being spewed are either true or untrue.

00:14:21.000 And we're at the dangerous level.

00:14:23.000 We must fight ideas, not people.

00:14:27.000 And keep our soul.

00:14:28.000 I don't want to turn in to everything that I have always despised.

00:14:34.000 I mean, my family is German, and the only German Beck that I know was one of the guys who tried to kill Hitler in the end.

00:14:46.000 Is that right?

00:14:47.000 Yeah.

00:14:47.000 But I don't know if we're related.

00:14:49.000 And I've often wondered, what did my line do?

00:14:54.000 We were over here in the 1800s, but I know I have relatives over there.

00:14:58.000 What did they do?

00:15:00.000 And authoritarianism, fascism, communism, it's just evil.

00:15:08.000 And the worst thing that can happen is that you get so...

00:15:14.000 Your back is so against the wall and you've been wronged so many times and called so many names and they're destroying everything that you love that you become them.

00:15:27.000 And I've got to stop you and you have got to be eliminated.

00:15:33.000 We can't do that.

00:15:35.000 We can't do that or we all lose.

00:15:38.000 We all lose in the end.

00:15:40.000 I think that that's the...

00:15:42.000 That is the difficulty.

00:15:43.000 How do you, you know, when you are, you could say, you know, fight a terrorist without adopting the methods of a terrorist.

00:15:53.000 I don't know if that's the right analogy to use for your sidewalk incident in Alaska.

00:15:58.000 I think it is.

00:15:59.000 Yeah, the fight is the same thing.

00:16:03.000 And And it is terrorism.

00:16:06.000 The things with ESG. What is that if it's not economic terrorism?

00:16:11.000 You either do this or I will blow up your whole life. 1.00

00:16:15.000 I will destroy you and your family and your ability to do anything forever. 1.00

00:16:21.000 That is terrorism. 0.99

00:16:23.000 And the worst thing we can do, that's my problem that I've had with the way we fight foreign wars in the past. 0.53

00:16:32.000 Yes.

00:16:33.000 Look, if we are against terrorism, then we don't ghost, I'm sorry, torture.

00:16:40.000 We don't ghost plane people to Egypt who will torture for us. 0.57

00:16:45.000 We're either against it or we're not.

00:16:48.000 And I think the American people...

00:16:53.000 Have been clear on where they stood and where they thought the nation stood, but it doesn't turn out that we were on the same page.

00:17:04.000 Does that make sense to you?

00:17:05.000 Oh, it does make sense to me.

00:17:07.000 I mean, that is the struggle of our moment is what means are we willing to use to fight that which we view on the same plane as terrorism.

00:17:17.000 You could talk about financial terrorism.

00:17:18.000 You could talk about actual terrorism.

00:17:19.000 I mean, we don't adopt the methods of the people who will strike 2,000 people and innocent civilians in a plane.

00:17:26.000 plane.

00:17:27.000 But once you start adopting the method, which might seem like it's required to win, you lose the very thing that you were fighting for.

00:17:34.000 That's why when when the left is afraid, for instance, if you knew and I'm sure the the leaders of LGBTQ and everything else, I'm sure when they say you're a turnout, just like the Nazis, they know what I didn't I'm sure when they say you're a turnout, just like the Nazis, they They know that story.

00:17:56.000 But I can be an ally on that.

00:18:00.000 You're exactly right.

00:18:01.000 That could happen.

00:18:03.000 But when they say, you know, the right, they're terrorists, they're whatever.

00:18:10.000 No, I think that's sometimes projecting on the things that you do.

00:18:16.000 And we cannot go and do a January 6th.

00:18:20.000 That's what Antifa does, not what Americans do. 0.99

00:18:25.000 Look, Glenn, I think that we live in a moment where this is just a last five to ten years point here.

00:18:33.000 Yeah.

00:18:34.000 Where people who have encountered unrecognized struggles and injustices...

00:18:43.000 Including conservatives in this country.

00:18:44.000 Yeah.

00:18:45.000 Needed to have the space to be heard, to vent and to do it in an uninhibited way.

00:18:52.000 Yep.

00:18:52.000 We've done that now.

00:18:54.000 So it's not about blaming whether that was a good idea or done in the right way or not.

00:18:58.000 We did it.

00:18:59.000 You know, I think when...

00:19:01.000 Now it's time.

00:19:02.000 Yeah.

00:19:03.000 To move forward.

00:19:04.000 Yes.

00:19:05.000 There was...

00:19:06.000 I really, truly believe that when you have something really horrible...

00:19:12.000 I mean, look at most guys when they're in war.

00:19:15.000 They go over, they do things that they never thought they could do or should do.

00:19:20.000 They did it in the name of their country, but they come back wounded and But they don't want to talk about it.

00:19:27.000 That's the worst thing that could happen.

00:19:29.000 I think in the 1960s, this country looked at racism, looked at Jim Crow, looked at all these things, and it was ugly.

00:19:38.000 And so a lot of people thought, well, we dealt with it.

00:19:42.000 And we didn't want to talk about it anymore because it ended in assassination and everything else.

00:19:47.000 But we're moving on.

00:19:49.000 We're getting better.

00:19:50.000 We dealt with it.

00:19:51.000 Well, no, we didn't.

00:19:52.000 We didn't lance the boil and let the pus completely come out. 1.00

00:19:58.000 Now, unfortunately, there have been people that want to take that and use that for their own nefarious purposes.

00:20:05.000 But if we could come together and say, you know what?

00:20:10.000 I was wrong about big corporations not being a threat.

00:20:14.000 I always thought you could trust corporations.

00:20:16.000 Wrong! 0.86

00:20:18.000 You and I might have been wrong on thinking that we were beyond the racism problem.

00:20:25.000 We weren't.

00:20:26.000 There were some things that had to be said and done, but we're not having that conversation.

00:20:32.000 There is a good, healthy family comes together and says, guys...

00:20:38.000 We need to talk about this.

00:20:39.000 When I was 15, my mom committed suicide.

00:20:43.000 My dad to his dying day would not admit that she had killed herself.

00:20:49.000 But when I was 30, because we never talked about it.

00:20:53.000 When I was 30 and I'm trying to sober up from my alcoholism, I brought my sisters together and I said, we need to talk.

00:21:01.000 And they said, what about?

00:21:03.000 And we're all in the same room.

00:21:05.000 And I said, Well, I think we should start with mom's suicide.

00:21:09.000 And my sister, who was two years older than me, stood up and said, I did not kill her!

00:21:17.000 And I was like, what?

00:21:19.000 What are you saying?

00:21:21.000 And I said, where is that coming from?

00:21:25.000 And she said, that's what you said to me because my sister had an argument with my mom the night before.

00:21:31.000 And she said, that's what you said to me that next morning when mom was dead.

00:21:37.000 It's your fault.

00:21:39.000 She had been carrying that around forever.

00:21:44.000 We hugged it out.

00:21:46.000 I talked to her about it.

00:21:47.000 I apologize.

00:21:48.000 We're good friends now.

00:21:51.000 That's what good families, healthy families do, not what the American family is doing now.

00:21:57.000 It doesn't have to be that way, Glenn.

00:21:59.000 No, it doesn't.

00:22:00.000 I think American family took, how long did it take?

00:22:03.000 For you and your sister to have that conversation?

00:22:05.000 15 years.

00:22:07.000 20 years.

00:22:07.000 But you did it.

00:22:08.000 Yeah, I did it.

00:22:09.000 And we are healthier for it.

00:22:11.000 If we can make this turn, we are going to be an amazing country.

00:22:18.000 Unfortunately, as you know, the odds are stacked against us.

00:22:22.000 We have all these elites that are putting in things that are really authoritarian in nature.

00:22:29.000 ESG, the World Economic Forum, what's happening with AI should yes, should terrify people because we are at the place.

00:22:41.000 If we don't make the right decision now, I do believe we will either be slaves of an authoritarian state that controls it all until it loses control of AI, you know, or we're all wiped out from it.

00:22:59.000 But we are really, truly at a point humanity has never been at.

00:23:05.000 The test is, can we rise above it?

00:23:08.000 I think we're at the, what is it, Fermi's dilemma, where he said the reason why we can't find extraterrestrial life is because they blow themselves up once they come up with nuclear, they split the atom.

00:23:21.000 I think actually it is AI. I think this is the point where we're going to prove we are worthy to survive.

00:23:32.000 Or it's all going to have to start over again.

00:23:35.000 You know, in some ways, the conversation about social media earlier is, I think, the way in which, I mean, one of the chief dangers of AI is that you're saying we're not having that conversation anymore, the conversation equivalent of what you and your sister had after 15 years.

00:23:51.000 AI might be the reason we're not having that conversation, actually.

00:23:55.000 It's in a sense that's far more present right now where we created spaces that were supposed to imitate the conversations we have in life.

00:24:06.000 And instead, the conversations we have in life started imitating the conversations we have on Twitter.

00:24:12.000 And I think that that is, you don't have to look to the future to see the danger of that AI. It's picking at algorithms, picking at our own insecurities that cause us to change the way we once behaved even in the so-called real world.

00:24:26.000 The real world is that.

00:24:28.000 I think we're 18 months away from a turning point that when people will really start to understand the real dangers.

00:24:37.000 We're at a place, I've called it for a while, the implosion of trust.

00:24:45.000 Where you don't trust anything.

00:24:46.000 Reality is about to collapse on itself because of AI and the digital world that we're now entering.

00:24:55.000 And when you have a reality collapse, how are you going to trust anybody?

00:25:00.000 I think this election you're running in what Tristan Harris calls the last human election.

00:25:08.000 2024 will be the last, and I could make an argument that we've already passed this, but the one that will be obvious will be 2028, where AI is so good and it has become personal.

00:25:25.000 This is the next step.

00:25:28.000 The social media went for engagement, but AI is actually going for intimacy.

00:25:38.000 So it wants to develop a relationship so your engagement never ends.

00:25:43.000 And it will become your friend, your spouse.

00:25:47.000 Mark my words, we will have the argument very soon that, why are you judging me?

00:25:53.000 Because you're saying that my spouse is not alive?

00:25:56.000 It's AI. She's as important to me as your wife is.

00:26:00.000 And that will slowly can be manipulated to slowly manipulate you to move one way or the other, to vote one way or the other.

00:26:14.000 We lose the idea or the real meaning behind free will.

00:26:19.000 Did I decide that or was I manipulated to do that?

00:26:24.000 And I think that is coming as soon as 2024. How do you inoculate yourself against that?

00:26:31.000 Because you could point to the AI, but it only works insofar as it's able to pick on insecurities or uncertainties grounded in truth.

00:26:43.000 That you were open to being manipulated in the first place.

00:26:46.000 And I think there's two sides to the coin, so I'm not denying what you said, but I'm wondering whether it's also just an occasion to look in the mirror and say, yeah, I mean, how did Mark Zuckerberg, he found it hot or not before he founded Facebook?

00:26:57.000 That was the predecessor, sort of picking at human impulses, human insecurities.

00:27:02.000 That's what gets us to Instagram, you know, affects now teen girls' body image issues. 1.00

00:27:08.000 Part of the blame could rest at the feet of Instagram and the algorithms that it uses to create projections of images that cause teen girls to feel that way, but there's a second half to the coin.

00:27:19.000 The other side of the coin is how do we address the insecurities within that leave us full enough of purpose that would leave us immunized?

00:27:29.000 That's the vaccine, if you will, against the virus, if you will, and maybe we can think about that Version of the problem, and we have something more within our own power to address.

00:27:40.000 When you introduced me, you gave me far too much credit.

00:27:48.000 But you said, he's honest.

00:27:53.000 And I try to be.

00:27:54.000 I try really hard to say what I mean and mean what I say because I've already lost my soul once through my alcoholism and I don't want to lose it a second time.

00:28:06.000 But the thing that I think you might be picking up on is vulnerability.

00:28:18.000 I know what's true.

00:28:20.000 I know who I am with God.

00:28:25.000 I know who God is.

00:28:27.000 I know what's true and what I'm willing to do and not do because of eternal principles.

00:28:35.000 And when you know that, you're secure enough in yourself where you can be vulnerable and say things like I'm an alcoholic or say things like I told you.

00:28:46.000 Most people, I'm talking to Stu, who you know is my producer on the show.

00:28:52.000 He said to me today when I came in and I talked about it on the air, he said, I would have never said any of that stuff.

00:28:59.000 He said, I would have just hidden it.

00:29:01.000 And I said, that's what makes us weak.

00:29:05.000 We hide things.

00:29:07.000 Maybe it's because we don't want to stick out or we're ashamed or whatever.

00:29:13.000 But when people are truly vulnerable and honest...

00:29:20.000 Other people learn, oh wow, you're just like me.

00:29:25.000 I'm struggling with something like that, or I've had something like that, or I know somebody.

00:29:29.000 And all of a sudden we see ourselves in other people, even people we don't like.

00:29:36.000 And that's what social media has killed.

00:29:41.000 It's killed vulnerability because everyone's invincible on social media.

00:29:46.000 Everybody's perfect.

00:29:47.000 Mm-hmm.

00:29:48.000 It's a projection, and it's literally a projection of artifice covering up what is true, which is actually true vulnerability.

00:29:56.000 It leaves no space for that.

00:29:58.000 You know, the thing I'm saying, Glenn, is as long as, and I'm reflecting on, is for as long as we have a boundary between the online world and the offline world, in the offline world, we better darn well figure out How we fortify that hole inside, because that's the last best chance.

00:30:17.000 What you described is not, I mean, that's a future that's coming.

00:30:19.000 But I think fortification of the actual soul and the purpose and meaning that we starve for, that might be our last best chance to protect ourselves.

00:30:29.000 And maybe I'm in a mood, I came from a room full of pastors here in Iowa, where we spent the last two hours talking about, you know, faith and the loss of it in our country.

00:30:39.000 But Boy, it makes me think that we don't...

00:30:44.000 It's like the analogy was when the Israelites are lost in the desert, right?

00:30:48.000 They go back and bend the knee to the Pharaoh. 0.65

00:30:50.000 Maybe we don't just complain about the Pharaoh.

00:30:52.000 Maybe we ask us what it is that makes us want to bend the knee.

00:30:55.000 And that might actually be our closest path out because we're not going to change whether the Pharaoh's there or not.

00:31:01.000 I think we're both in the same maybe headspace kind of today.

00:31:05.000 You coming out of that and me coming out of what I am.

00:31:07.000 But I think this is...

00:31:10.000 The most important thing.

00:31:12.000 I really like your candidacy, Vivek, because you're talking about the real issues, not the bullcrap Republican-Democrat issues, but the things that we all know are wrong and the common sense things to fix them.

00:31:34.000 We've entered this world of experts and And this has been by design.

00:31:41.000 It started, you know, back around the turn of the century and Woodrow Wilson.

00:31:44.000 He wanted experts to run everything because we're scientific.

00:31:50.000 And we have gotten to the place where it's follow the science.

00:31:55.000 There's no such thing as the science.

00:31:57.000 Science is constantly changing and learning, and it's dependent on people questioning science and the answers.

00:32:06.000 And we have done this in every shape and form.

00:32:11.000 We've done it with parents.

00:32:13.000 I don't know.

00:32:14.000 I should go talk to a doctor.

00:32:15.000 I should talk to a psychiatrist on what...

00:32:19.000 I mean, there's places for that.

00:32:21.000 But books from so-called experts are giving us all of the advice, and we take it as absolute gospel...

00:32:31.000 While dismissing the actual gospel and dismissing those things that are inside ourselves.

00:32:38.000 We keep belittling ourselves and giving it to the experts.

00:32:43.000 And I would ask Vivek, and this is what I like about you, is...

00:32:49.000 You know, there's a reason to talk to experts, but you talk to experts and you take the best of what they have to say and the things that make sense, challenge those things that you don't understand, and maybe they clear up that, and you leave behind the stuff that you don't think they have right.

00:33:07.000 And you make the decision.

00:33:11.000 You, the individual, makes the decision.

00:33:14.000 Instead of saying, well, the experts tell us that inflation is not real, that it's just transitory, and they now tell us, the people who created this transitory situation, they now tell us we should do X, Y, and Z to make sure it doesn't get worse.

00:33:32.000 Tell me the last time an expert was held up by the government or mainstream media that has been right.

00:33:42.000 Because I can't think of one.

00:33:43.000 That's right.

00:33:44.000 And what does right even mean if that's maybe correct, even if it wasn't the correct methodology for settling a question that was actually normative?

00:33:53.000 And they always say, do you have a degree in that? 0.96

00:33:57.000 No, that doesn't mean I'm a moron that I don't. 0.99

00:34:00.000 That's right. 0.99

00:34:02.000 And it's like our founding fathers.

00:34:04.000 It's the same thing.

00:34:05.000 Franklin stove, lightning rod.

00:34:07.000 Correct.

00:34:08.000 Swivel chair of Thomas Jefferson.

00:34:10.000 And that's kind of what we need to revive.

00:34:11.000 Do you know what George Washington's Achilles heel was?

00:34:15.000 No, I don't.

00:34:15.000 He never went to a university.

00:34:18.000 And he always felt inferior.

00:34:22.000 He always felt like, I don't really know because I didn't go to a university.

00:34:27.000 That guy was indispensable.

00:34:30.000 Without him, we don't have a country.

00:34:32.000 He had no reason to feel that way.

00:34:35.000 Read his farewell address.

00:34:37.000 It's like at the 26th grade level.

00:34:40.000 Of course.

00:34:42.000 Yeah.

00:34:42.000 So, he was fine.

00:34:44.000 Yeah, and so was Thomas Jefferson, and so was everybody else that invented the things that they weren't supposed to invent.

00:34:50.000 Glenn, you give me inspiration every time we talk.

00:34:53.000 And I am so grateful that you took some time even knowing what you're going through.

00:34:59.000 But I think it is actually helpful to everyone who you will touch for you to be as open as you have been, because you're not the only one going through what you're going through.

00:35:12.000 And it is a service to the country to be able to at least actually be willing to share it, because so few people are.

00:35:22.000 Thank you.

00:35:23.000 There's something...

00:35:25.000 Thank you.

00:35:25.000 There's good in everything, depending on how we react to it.

00:35:30.000 And there's got to be some good that comes out of this.

00:35:35.000 And right now, the only good I can think of is telling people, you're not alone.

00:35:41.000 You're not the only one going through it.

00:35:43.000 It happens to everyone.

00:35:48.000 And money doesn't make it better.

00:35:51.000 Fame doesn't make it better.

00:35:52.000 We are all the same.

00:35:54.000 And you're not alone.

00:35:56.000 Thank you, Glenn.

00:35:58.000 I appreciate it.

00:36:00.000 I'm Vivek Ramaswamy, candidate for president, and I approve this message.

Truth Podcast - Vivek Ramaswamy - June 01, 2023

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