Unify Action - October 08, 2025


Canada’s Liberals Want To CRIMINALIZE Words — His Reaction Says It All


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4 minutes

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150.35

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696

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33


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In this episode of the podcast, we talk about hate speech in Canada and whether or not the government should criminalize hate speech. We also talk about the new Bill C-9 bill that could see hate speech criminalized in Canada.

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00:00:00.000 Yeah, it's a bit fascistic. Yeah, that sounds bad.
00:00:06.520 I was wondering if you could elaborate on the all speech is free speech thing.
00:00:11.840 Okay, so I've been told I should clarify it.
00:00:17.600 So I think if someone has said something that is actually caused of like violence,
00:00:25.000 then we should decide like if there should be punishment in that.
00:00:28.240 But if someone has said something, like a criticism of someone, and someone said, oh, this is hate speech towards me, that was still their, the person who said it in the beginning, that is still their free will to say that, right?
00:00:42.720 Yeah.
00:00:43.540 So we shouldn't have a lot of criticism.
00:00:44.780 Do you think we should create a way to recognize what kind of speech is harmful to people?
00:00:58.420 Or do you think it should be based on the outcome of the statement?
00:01:04.420 You could base it on the outcome of the statement.
00:01:06.720 Because, like, if you take, like, let's, uh, I'm not going to ask you to agree with this, but, like, if you, if we, like, presuppose that what Donald Trump said before January 6th did cause January 6th, if a regular person said that, we probably shouldn't throw them in jail because they're not actually affecting anything, right?
00:01:27.240 Okay.
00:01:28.880 But.
00:01:30.120 So, perhaps.
00:01:31.140 Okay, well, we should.
00:01:32.560 The consequence is the important thing.
00:01:35.100 What our government is doing right now with these hate speech laws that they're trying to introduce,
00:01:40.140 they're basically giving them an arbitrary power, like hate speech.
00:01:44.160 Like, not everyone agrees on what hate speech is, and probably our government doesn't either.
00:01:47.960 So it's going to be like this arbitrary power, right?
00:01:50.820 In the hands of our government.
00:01:51.520 I'm not familiar with the new speech laws.
00:01:54.360 Okay, so they are introducing a couple of really controversial bills.
00:02:00.700 And so Bill C-8 gives them the power to cut off anyone's telecommunications provider
00:02:13.400 and their contact to the outside world if the government deems them as a threat in any way.
00:02:18.080 Wow.
00:02:18.800 So that's like...
00:02:19.800 Is that the exact wording?
00:02:22.020 Well, that's basically like the abbreviation of it.
00:02:24.640 So it's an act to amend the telecommunications bill.
00:02:27.540 or it's a bill to amend the Telecommunications Act
00:02:31.440 and basically give them the power to tell the telecommunications provider
00:02:34.860 this person, we deem them as a threat.
00:02:38.160 Like, no matter what that threat might be, we deem them as a threat,
00:02:41.580 cut off their telecommunications provider.
00:02:43.740 Like, cut it off, right?
00:02:45.020 So that bill would do that.
00:02:46.880 But then we have Bill C-9 where they're basically,
00:02:52.520 it's an act to amend the criminal code
00:02:55.280 and include hate speech
00:02:58.320 as a crime. And someone could
00:03:00.280 actually go away for life
00:03:01.960 based on some of the things
00:03:04.360 that they're saying. And it's very arbitrary.
00:03:06.040 They don't explicitly
00:03:07.740 say, like
00:03:10.280 they may include a few things
00:03:12.260 like the swastika
00:03:14.080 as like, if he displays this, this is a hate
00:03:16.380 speech and therefore you can be criminalized for
00:03:18.200 and go away for like two years.
00:03:20.480 Or
00:03:20.680 stuff like that. But their main
00:03:24.280 premise as far as like what is hate speech
00:03:26.300 is not very clearly defined
00:03:27.980 so it's an arbitrary power
00:03:30.220 and
00:03:31.780 like
00:03:34.080 we already criminalize people for making
00:03:36.380 threats and things
00:03:38.060 right so it's not about that
00:03:40.060 so we already have that power
00:03:41.720 it's not about that it's about actual
00:03:44.200 what we consider hate
00:03:45.880 so which could be anything
00:03:48.260 from criticizing the government to
00:03:49.960 criticizing a people group
00:03:51.220 yeah uh it's fascistic that's uh yeah that sounds bad um
00:03:58.440 yeah i'm i'm primarily like uh i focus on like economic
00:04:03.340 issues okay because i think that's where like the most
00:04:07.220 good can be done um yeah i'm not too well versed in the
00:04:13.820 well i i encourage you to look up bill c8 and c9
00:04:18.820 They are quite significant bills,
00:04:23.320 and it's quite a good deal of power to be placing in the hands of our governments,
00:04:27.820 even if you could argue that it's a force for good to, say, like, remove, I don't know, terrorist groups or something.
00:04:34.720 Even if you could argue that, it also can be just as much a force for bad.