He FEARS Nothing Will Change - Even If The Conservatives WIN
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Summary
In this episode, I sit down with a friend of mine to discuss his views on the Canadian political system and what he thinks about it. We talk about the current political system in Canada, immigration, censorship and much more.
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so i don't know if i'm necessarily here to change your mind but i want to learn more so okay why do
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you think the liberals are the problem okay so when trudeau came in he inherited an amazing
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opportunity an amazing flourishing middle class right so we had one of the highest living standards
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in the world for middle class when trudeau came in and now at the end of his reign we're 33rd in
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the world for living standards which so we have to ask ourselves what happened in between what sort
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of things happen and the answer is a huge amount of immigration which is a liberal policy a huge
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amount of inflation which is a liberal policy really bad what makes you say that those are
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only liberal policies well they're the ones in charge right they're the ones printing the money
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they're the ones allowing so many people in without like thinking that how it could affect
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us right that is true but the liberals did have minority governments so it's not like they had
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all the power but they had the executive power right so the argument could be made that it was
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the liberals and the ndp for a short period of time but the liberals still had the executive power
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okay right so they were the ones that put forward the budget that this is what we're going to spend
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and then they went and spent over budget which is another thing right um but they're the ones
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who are spending the money and i see them spending it very ill and it's i don't like they're just
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they're not they're not being what they should be and i don't think they're representing the
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best interests of comedians right because they from what i see they're just trying to increase
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bureaucracy and increase government control in everything right like they said oh hey
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we're gonna we're gonna change everything we're gonna fast track our development of our natural
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resources we're gonna create another department in our government that's just gonna do what all
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the other departments are doing so they've done that and i forget the name of it but it's a recent
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addition to our federal governments another thing of the administrative state and all it does is take
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what we've already been doing and it's not going to fast track anything right yeah so and they've
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done that with other things too like cyber security which we could already we already have the laws on
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the books to you know like i can fully understand and agree with that i don't like how censorship
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has been like becoming an increasing concern but i don't think that the conservative party is the
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answer either honestly especially with how ineffective they've been you know and this
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is not generally a concern that i just share with the conservatives it's a concern i share also with
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the liberals it's a concern that i also share with the ndps i don't necessarily think that it's yes
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the liberals definitely had issues but i don't think it's just limited to them i think it's just
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a wider error in the canadian political system yeah and i would agree with you i think we need
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like political reform uh the rain's coming back um but i think we need some political reform so
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i i've been very open with my critique of how our political system is set up in canada
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we only have one area of our government that is representative government and everything else is
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like literally appointed by the prime minister the prime minister is literally people talk
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about no kings well the prime minister is literally a king he has so much authority he
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he can he advises the governor general and the governor general has this huge swath of authority
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the governor general is really only ceremonial and then everything resides in the prime minister
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so i would like to see there are more checks and balances to not thought that we should take away
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so much power from the federal government but we would split it up and divide it up into
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groups so that no one person can take all the power and control and it it's a guard against a
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dictator right like i prefer a little bit of what they have in the states where the senate is
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elected and then the legislative is elected the congress and then the president's elected as well
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all of those are elected branches that the people have a say in and then for the president's
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administration the senate has to approve it so they have a say and then congress has has to say
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in like bills and money so there's like it's all divided up and the supreme court has to go through
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like the senate and stuff to be approved but how would like i can see how division will stop
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centralization of power which i do think is an issue but how will it increase representation
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so the people will have more say right so right now we don't decide who the governor general is
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like that's a pick of our prime minister and whatever the prime minister thinks is what we
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get right and our supreme court yes the governor general has authority to appoint them but really
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it's on advice of the prime minister and then the privy council is appointed by the governor general
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on advice of the prime minister so it's like he's literally a king like how could anyone deny it
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right so i i just i want there to be more checks and balances so i wouldn't necessarily say we
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need our senators appointed by like a election but i do think they should be appointed by the
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provinces okay i guess i'll expand on what i kind of meant a bit okay yeah so i don't like i can see
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the idea that the Liberals are a problem. I don't think they're the problem.
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I think they're a symptom of a wider problem in that a lot of the concerns
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that the average citizen actually has in Canada aren't actually represented in a
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lot of what is happening in the government. And I don't think that would
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change whether we have a Liberal or a Conservative Party. I think there's a
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big divide in what the let's say elite for lack of a better term that i can come up with live and
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what they think canada is and what the average person thinks canada is does that make sense
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yeah and i don't think the conservatives understand that either yeah so um i guess your concern would
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would be like the administrative, what we consider like the administrative state, so
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So, I really need to do more research on how it works in Canada, but in the states, when
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they want to do legislation, like there is some power to do that in Congress, but then
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they have all sorts of administrations, so like the EPA, Environmental Protection Agency
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in other places they come up with the policy they're unelected officials and they come up
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with our their environmental policy and i think that might be the same in canada the unelected
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officials that don't always have canadians best interest at heart coming up with the policies
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that we then have to abide by so is that your major question i guess that's one symptom like
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yeah that's gonna be an issue that definitely leads to what i described but like here let's
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talk about the people who were in power in ontario for example for quite a while again the conservative
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party under dog ford i wouldn't consider a conservative oh my goodness i know like there's
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like there's a big difference between conservative in ontario and conservative in alberta i'm not
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here necessarily to talk about values because i know like obviously the conservative party
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and the liberal party are gonna represent people from different backgrounds and different values
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i just think that it doesn't and i think it's the same thing even in the u.s honestly it doesn't
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matter who's in charge my life is not going to change so why should i really care who gets in
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or why should i really care who wins when my life is not going to be impacted from either party
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because they don't really care about how me an undergrad student was ambitious or like an up
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up-and-coming adult wants to see happen in Canada. My voice isn't being heard my
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concerns aren't necessarily sometimes even cared about so and I don't think
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that's necessarily a problem that's just with the Liberals. I can also see that
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within the Conservative Party. If anything I can go on a further step and
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say I think that's one of the reasons the Conservative Party didn't
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win when they probably had a really good shot at it this year with like
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everything that happened we might get another election really soon who knows
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but again like I don't think it's gonna change anything yeah I think it could
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change a little bit like as far as like the policies like major policies as far
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as like the bill C-69 for one thing but I think see a lot of people rag on Donald
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Trump for being, oh, aggressive. But what one of the things that he is trying to do, at least what
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I'm seeing him try to do, is dismantle the administrative state to some extent, like go
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after these unelected officials. And they're screaming about it because they're going to lose
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all their funding and their jobs and their authority, right? These elites. And we need at
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least a little bit we need a little bit of that in canon we at least need to have people know what
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these administrators are doing i see right we should be we should know who they are because
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we don't and then i see your point and i can like i would like me personally i wouldn't say trump
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is doing that but i can see your point and i'm gonna like consider that
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i like even let's say we do go ahead and do that how am i gonna still be represented within the
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new government even if the elites are gone away and like you know we do have reform
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is that something that's even possible well because i can argue that trump and his establishment
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again not really considering values or party allegiance or whatnot i can consider them to
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be elites as well if you know what i mean as some of them yeah because like i wouldn't call
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musk for example anti-establishment i wouldn't call trump himself to be an anti-establishment
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okay there's certainly not like even the jd vance he was if anything a prop as well like
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he was propped up into his position he was nepoed in the same thing with kamala like i'll go in
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i'll dig into both sides i think what kamala being the primary candidate was completely wrong
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but without election exactly but i don't think i think the criticism should also extend both ways
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if we're going to talk about the us because even if we remove the elites who are we going to put
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in instead they're going to put in other elites who are also going to be entrenched and are going
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gonna become the new establishment yeah and i i don't know the answer that's why i'm kind of i'm
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watching the u.s very closely to see what happens there because well something at least something
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must be happening because like anyone in the administrative state and those people that are
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being paid off like the democrats to some extent are being paid off they get a lot of donations
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from big pharma and other places right but the republicans do as well they do right so
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and the administrative state seems to be screaming about it so something must be happening and that's
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why i'm kind of watching closely to see what will happen and i don't know what the solution is i
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know that there needs to be one that's kind of why i'm doing this to kind of get people together
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organize them if they feel that they're not being adequately represented we need to get together as
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community as people with shared values and organize and be like okay this is the sort of
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thing that we want this is the policy that we want we want to look into this and be such a great
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force that they can't deny us right that's my whole goal with this and hopefully along the way
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we'll come up with a solution to the administrative states and i'm hopeful i'm careful that we'll find
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one right um until then i don't know no like i know it is it is a loaded question but that's why
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like me personally i legit don't care who i speak with like obviously i have my own values but i
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don't like it doesn't matter whether i speak to a liberal or left-leaning individual or right-leaning
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individual i think we're just losing the bigger picture when we're discussing these things on a
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smaller level when at the end of the day you know we're not being represented
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where what we are concerned which a lot of our concerns are actually bipartisan
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and have equal support from both left and right like for example I'm pretty
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sure both sides aren't okay with the homelessness issue the opioid opioid
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epidemic that's going on or like again like I don't know if you're from
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Hamilton but like the state that Hamilton is under right now like yeah
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those are all issues that and even wealth inequality as well at least to a certain degree
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those are all issues that we can agree on but nothing is changing so what makes us think that
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if those things that we can agree on we're not being able to do any change because of the set
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establishment why are we busy ourselves dividing between the smaller issues yeah does that make
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yeah uh yeah i know i understand what you're saying um for my part i do hope that the
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conservative party will be at least some degree better than the liberal party that that is my
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hope right i i think you're like you're optimistic which honestly like that's a good thing i just
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wish i was optimistic about anything changing i i've seen enough i think like i've like i i know
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like i'm still young but like i've been through the 2019 election i've been through the previous
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election nothing's changed and that yeah well it has been the same outcome though right we've had
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the same outcome people are still putting the same party in which i mean but like even within the us
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for example which we've used as an example doesn't matter whether it was democrat or republican like
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yeah again there will be changes obviously in like how certain social issues are dealt with
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yeah which is like yeah like that can happen but ultimately our daily lives doesn't change
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yeah yeah yeah i see where you're coming from yeah definitely and like again i do think i hope
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the younger generation like you said like does become more aware learns about things like that
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because i think we need to unite versus canadians yeah and you know make sure that we are able to
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get somewhere before we can represent our values before we can represent our communities because
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if we're just gonna divide ourselves then of course nothing's gonna change yeah and like yes
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like i again i know i'm kind of repeating myself but like i guess i'm just wrapping things up i have
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my own values you have your own values there will be some things we agree on there will be some
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things we disagree on but before we go to the things that we disagree on why don't we try and
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fight for you know the bigger picture problems first yeah yeah i see what i'm coming from yeah
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at least that's why i don't think liberals are the problem they might be a problem
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but who knows we'll see what happens all right awesome thank you for your time