Unify Action - October 28, 2025


He FEARS Nothing Will Change - Even If The Conservatives WIN


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00:00:00.000 so i don't know if i'm necessarily here to change your mind but i want to learn more so okay why do
00:00:06.160 you think the liberals are the problem okay so when trudeau came in he inherited an amazing
00:00:15.840 opportunity an amazing flourishing middle class right so we had one of the highest living standards
00:00:22.960 in the world for middle class when trudeau came in and now at the end of his reign we're 33rd in
00:00:29.040 the world for living standards which so we have to ask ourselves what happened in between what sort
00:00:35.920 of things happen and the answer is a huge amount of immigration which is a liberal policy a huge
00:00:41.600 amount of inflation which is a liberal policy really bad what makes you say that those are
00:00:47.280 only liberal policies well they're the ones in charge right they're the ones printing the money
00:00:52.000 they're the ones allowing so many people in without like thinking that how it could affect
00:00:57.520 us right that is true but the liberals did have minority governments so it's not like they had
00:01:03.200 all the power but they had the executive power right so the argument could be made that it was
00:01:10.640 the liberals and the ndp for a short period of time but the liberals still had the executive power
00:01:16.560 okay right so they were the ones that put forward the budget that this is what we're going to spend
00:01:23.360 and then they went and spent over budget which is another thing right um but they're the ones
00:01:28.240 who are spending the money and i see them spending it very ill and it's i don't like they're just
00:01:37.760 they're not they're not being what they should be and i don't think they're representing the
00:01:43.040 best interests of comedians right because they from what i see they're just trying to increase
00:01:49.120 bureaucracy and increase government control in everything right like they said oh hey
00:01:56.640 we're gonna we're gonna change everything we're gonna fast track our development of our natural
00:02:02.320 resources we're gonna create another department in our government that's just gonna do what all
00:02:07.760 the other departments are doing so they've done that and i forget the name of it but it's a recent
00:02:13.120 addition to our federal governments another thing of the administrative state and all it does is take
00:02:20.720 what we've already been doing and it's not going to fast track anything right yeah so and they've
00:02:27.120 done that with other things too like cyber security which we could already we already have the laws on
00:02:30.960 the books to you know like i can fully understand and agree with that i don't like how censorship
00:02:37.520 has been like becoming an increasing concern but i don't think that the conservative party is the
00:02:43.760 answer either honestly especially with how ineffective they've been you know and this
00:02:50.000 is not generally a concern that i just share with the conservatives it's a concern i share also with
00:02:55.120 the liberals it's a concern that i also share with the ndps i don't necessarily think that it's yes
00:03:01.280 the liberals definitely had issues but i don't think it's just limited to them i think it's just
00:03:06.080 a wider error in the canadian political system yeah and i would agree with you i think we need
00:03:12.320 like political reform uh the rain's coming back um but i think we need some political reform so
00:03:20.640 i i've been very open with my critique of how our political system is set up in canada
00:03:26.480 we only have one area of our government that is representative government and everything else is
00:03:31.600 like literally appointed by the prime minister the prime minister is literally people talk
00:03:35.360 about no kings well the prime minister is literally a king he has so much authority he
00:03:40.640 he can he advises the governor general and the governor general has this huge swath of authority
00:03:46.320 the governor general is really only ceremonial and then everything resides in the prime minister
00:03:50.960 so i would like to see there are more checks and balances to not thought that we should take away
00:03:57.360 so much power from the federal government but we would split it up and divide it up into
00:04:01.200 groups so that no one person can take all the power and control and it it's a guard against a
00:04:09.280 dictator right like i prefer a little bit of what they have in the states where the senate is
00:04:16.000 elected and then the legislative is elected the congress and then the president's elected as well
00:04:21.760 all of those are elected branches that the people have a say in and then for the president's
00:04:27.840 administration the senate has to approve it so they have a say and then congress has has to say
00:04:35.440 in like bills and money so there's like it's all divided up and the supreme court has to go through
00:04:41.520 like the senate and stuff to be approved but how would like i can see how division will stop
00:04:47.360 centralization of power which i do think is an issue but how will it increase representation
00:04:53.520 so the people will have more say right so right now we don't decide who the governor general is
00:05:02.420 like that's a pick of our prime minister and whatever the prime minister thinks is what we
00:05:07.900 get right and our supreme court yes the governor general has authority to appoint them but really
00:05:14.260 it's on advice of the prime minister and then the privy council is appointed by the governor general
00:05:19.600 on advice of the prime minister so it's like he's literally a king like how could anyone deny it
00:05:25.040 right so i i just i want there to be more checks and balances so i wouldn't necessarily say we
00:05:32.420 need our senators appointed by like a election but i do think they should be appointed by the
00:05:39.020 provinces okay i guess i'll expand on what i kind of meant a bit okay yeah so i don't like i can see
00:05:47.200 the idea that the Liberals are a problem. I don't think they're the problem.
00:05:53.260 I think they're a symptom of a wider problem in that a lot of the concerns
00:05:57.480 that the average citizen actually has in Canada aren't actually represented in a
00:06:02.300 lot of what is happening in the government. And I don't think that would
00:06:06.360 change whether we have a Liberal or a Conservative Party. I think there's a
00:06:11.620 big divide in what the let's say elite for lack of a better term that i can come up with live and
00:06:19.300 what they think canada is and what the average person thinks canada is does that make sense
00:06:25.540 yeah and i don't think the conservatives understand that either yeah so um i guess your concern would
00:06:34.580 would be like the administrative, what we consider like the administrative state, so
00:06:38.560 unelected officials.
00:06:41.960 What do you mean by that?
00:06:44.020 So, I really need to do more research on how it works in Canada, but in the states, when
00:06:51.620 they want to do legislation, like there is some power to do that in Congress, but then
00:06:56.560 they have all sorts of administrations, so like the EPA, Environmental Protection Agency
00:07:02.680 in other places they come up with the policy they're unelected officials and they come up
00:07:07.560 with our their environmental policy and i think that might be the same in canada the unelected
00:07:13.080 officials that don't always have canadians best interest at heart coming up with the policies
00:07:19.240 that we then have to abide by so is that your major question i guess that's one symptom like
00:07:26.840 yeah that's gonna be an issue that definitely leads to what i described but like here let's
00:07:32.200 talk about the people who were in power in ontario for example for quite a while again the conservative
00:07:38.200 party under dog ford i wouldn't consider a conservative oh my goodness i know like there's
00:07:43.560 like there's a big difference between conservative in ontario and conservative in alberta i'm not
00:07:49.160 here necessarily to talk about values because i know like obviously the conservative party
00:07:53.640 and the liberal party are gonna represent people from different backgrounds and different values
00:07:57.880 i just think that it doesn't and i think it's the same thing even in the u.s honestly it doesn't
00:08:03.960 matter who's in charge my life is not going to change so why should i really care who gets in
00:08:11.240 or why should i really care who wins when my life is not going to be impacted from either party
00:08:18.600 because they don't really care about how me an undergrad student was ambitious or like an up
00:08:25.080 up-and-coming adult wants to see happen in Canada. My voice isn't being heard my
00:08:32.520 concerns aren't necessarily sometimes even cared about so and I don't think
00:08:38.580 that's necessarily a problem that's just with the Liberals. I can also see that
00:08:41.680 within the Conservative Party. If anything I can go on a further step and
00:08:45.760 say I think that's one of the reasons the Conservative Party didn't
00:08:49.840 win when they probably had a really good shot at it this year with like
00:08:54.320 everything that happened we might get another election really soon who knows
00:08:58.260 but again like I don't think it's gonna change anything yeah I think it could
00:09:05.240 change a little bit like as far as like the policies like major policies as far
00:09:11.140 as like the bill C-69 for one thing but I think see a lot of people rag on Donald
00:09:21.020 Trump for being, oh, aggressive. But what one of the things that he is trying to do, at least what
00:09:28.840 I'm seeing him try to do, is dismantle the administrative state to some extent, like go
00:09:34.000 after these unelected officials. And they're screaming about it because they're going to lose
00:09:38.680 all their funding and their jobs and their authority, right? These elites. And we need at
00:09:45.200 least a little bit we need a little bit of that in canon we at least need to have people know what
00:09:55.340 these administrators are doing i see right we should be we should know who they are because
00:10:00.900 we don't and then i see your point and i can like i would like me personally i wouldn't say trump
00:10:08.740 is doing that but i can see your point and i'm gonna like consider that
00:10:13.220 i like even let's say we do go ahead and do that how am i gonna still be represented within the
00:10:22.820 new government even if the elites are gone away and like you know we do have reform
00:10:27.820 is that something that's even possible well because i can argue that trump and his establishment
00:10:36.800 again not really considering values or party allegiance or whatnot i can consider them to
00:10:42.220 be elites as well if you know what i mean as some of them yeah because like i wouldn't call
00:10:51.020 musk for example anti-establishment i wouldn't call trump himself to be an anti-establishment
00:10:57.480 okay there's certainly not like even the jd vance he was if anything a prop as well like
00:11:05.200 he was propped up into his position he was nepoed in the same thing with kamala like i'll go in
00:11:11.360 i'll dig into both sides i think what kamala being the primary candidate was completely wrong
00:11:16.960 but without election exactly but i don't think i think the criticism should also extend both ways
00:11:23.200 if we're going to talk about the us because even if we remove the elites who are we going to put
00:11:27.840 in instead they're going to put in other elites who are also going to be entrenched and are going
00:11:32.240 gonna become the new establishment yeah and i i don't know the answer that's why i'm kind of i'm
00:11:37.460 watching the u.s very closely to see what happens there because well something at least something
00:11:44.820 must be happening because like anyone in the administrative state and those people that are
00:11:49.020 being paid off like the democrats to some extent are being paid off they get a lot of donations
00:11:54.600 from big pharma and other places right but the republicans do as well they do right so
00:11:58.760 and the administrative state seems to be screaming about it so something must be happening and that's
00:12:06.000 why i'm kind of watching closely to see what will happen and i don't know what the solution is i
00:12:14.540 know that there needs to be one that's kind of why i'm doing this to kind of get people together
00:12:20.140 organize them if they feel that they're not being adequately represented we need to get together as
00:12:25.020 community as people with shared values and organize and be like okay this is the sort of
00:12:30.940 thing that we want this is the policy that we want we want to look into this and be such a great
00:12:36.860 force that they can't deny us right that's my whole goal with this and hopefully along the way
00:12:43.900 we'll come up with a solution to the administrative states and i'm hopeful i'm careful that we'll find
00:12:49.820 one right um until then i don't know no like i know it is it is a loaded question but that's why
00:13:00.180 like me personally i legit don't care who i speak with like obviously i have my own values but i
00:13:06.440 don't like it doesn't matter whether i speak to a liberal or left-leaning individual or right-leaning
00:13:11.100 individual i think we're just losing the bigger picture when we're discussing these things on a
00:13:16.820 smaller level when at the end of the day you know we're not being represented
00:13:21.800 where what we are concerned which a lot of our concerns are actually bipartisan
00:13:27.260 and have equal support from both left and right like for example I'm pretty
00:13:31.280 sure both sides aren't okay with the homelessness issue the opioid opioid
00:13:35.480 epidemic that's going on or like again like I don't know if you're from
00:13:39.620 Hamilton but like the state that Hamilton is under right now like yeah
00:13:43.340 those are all issues that and even wealth inequality as well at least to a certain degree
00:13:48.620 those are all issues that we can agree on but nothing is changing so what makes us think that
00:13:54.860 if those things that we can agree on we're not being able to do any change because of the set
00:14:00.620 establishment why are we busy ourselves dividing between the smaller issues yeah does that make
00:14:08.300 yeah uh yeah i know i understand what you're saying um for my part i do hope that the
00:14:15.740 conservative party will be at least some degree better than the liberal party that that is my
00:14:22.220 hope right i i think you're like you're optimistic which honestly like that's a good thing i just
00:14:28.140 wish i was optimistic about anything changing i i've seen enough i think like i've like i i know
00:14:35.420 like i'm still young but like i've been through the 2019 election i've been through the previous
00:14:41.180 election nothing's changed and that yeah well it has been the same outcome though right we've had
00:14:47.100 the same outcome people are still putting the same party in which i mean but like even within the us
00:14:53.580 for example which we've used as an example doesn't matter whether it was democrat or republican like
00:14:59.820 yeah again there will be changes obviously in like how certain social issues are dealt with
00:15:05.900 yeah which is like yeah like that can happen but ultimately our daily lives doesn't change
00:15:13.500 yeah yeah yeah i see where you're coming from yeah definitely and like again i do think i hope
00:15:23.180 the younger generation like you said like does become more aware learns about things like that
00:15:29.820 because i think we need to unite versus canadians yeah and you know make sure that we are able to
00:15:37.020 get somewhere before we can represent our values before we can represent our communities because
00:15:43.660 if we're just gonna divide ourselves then of course nothing's gonna change yeah and like yes
00:15:48.860 like i again i know i'm kind of repeating myself but like i guess i'm just wrapping things up i have
00:15:54.300 my own values you have your own values there will be some things we agree on there will be some
00:15:58.860 things we disagree on but before we go to the things that we disagree on why don't we try and
00:16:03.900 fight for you know the bigger picture problems first yeah yeah i see what i'm coming from yeah
00:16:11.500 at least that's why i don't think liberals are the problem they might be a problem
00:16:16.060 but who knows we'll see what happens all right awesome thank you for your time