Unify Action - He Tried to Prove Gun Ownership Isn’t a Right… Then Got Stumped

00:00:00.000 What do we have the right to defend ourselves with?

00:00:03.820 I kind of just taught myself on that one.

00:00:06.140 Yeah, that's...

00:00:07.140 My opinion is that it's a natural human right to be able to defend yourself.

00:00:14.260 Would you agree with that?

00:00:15.340 Absolutely.

00:00:15.800 Yeah, okay.

00:00:16.580 So the criminals in this country, they will always have guns.

00:00:20.360 Like, there is no effective way in which we're able to prevent them from having guns.

00:00:23.620 So the only effective way for the person who's being attacked or whatever,

00:00:28.620 the only reason the only way for them to defend themselves would be to them have a gun as well

00:00:35.340 so to that end i see gun ownership as a right okay where i disagree is i think it's a privilege

00:00:44.540 i don't necessarily think it's a right i don't think we have a right to technology

00:00:48.780 uh self self-protection is definitely a right self-defense completely a right since the dollar

00:00:55.020 time but since guns aren't i guess natural they were created don't think we have any right to

00:01:04.940 anything that isn't natural i mean okay that's a slippery slope it's a pretty bad argument but

00:01:09.300 well i guess if someone loses the privilege to own the firearm and this is coming from someone

00:01:17.520 who is very much pro gun ownership i think there shouldn't be any real limitations on types of

00:01:23.440 firearms or blanket bans,

00:01:25.620 flyback bans, all that

00:01:27.580 kind of stuff. But some of the way

00:01:29.380 of, you know, the similar argument if someone's drunk

00:01:31.380 driving drunk, they lost their right to

00:01:33.040 the license to drive a vehicle.

00:01:37.400 They should be, I don't know if

00:01:39.420 they should be technically allowed

00:01:41.420 to drive after that.

00:01:43.280 I would

00:01:43.640 kind of wager that it would probably be best

00:01:47.560 if they didn't drive

00:01:48.740 after a certain amount of DOIs.

00:01:51.700 They've proven to society that they're not

00:01:53.260 capable if someone is showing signs obviously mental health checks they're not always reliable

00:01:58.820 they're not always accurate they're problematic in themselves if someone has harmed someone

00:02:06.680 intentionally with a firearm not out of self-defense out of pure balance i would probably

00:02:13.540 be on the side of them not being able to legally own the gun i know they're probably going to get

00:02:18.660 anyways but i mean in terms of legal right um if they still want to use another weapon for

00:02:24.120 self-defense i don't have an issue with that but i think i think everybody should be be given the

00:02:30.500 right to have the privilege to own a firearm until proven otherwise okay i just don't know

00:02:35.860 if it would be uh completely give them unlimited chances because it's a right to self-defense

00:02:41.260 that's kind of where okay yeah so um privileges yeah definitely the way that we see it in the

00:02:50.840 canadian legislation right now is that it's a privilege out avowed to us by the government

00:02:55.180 um but a lot of people have seen it differently as more of a human right to self-defense so um

00:03:03.560 like if we have like obviously i feel like we're both on like the same page here as far as like

00:03:11.240 the rights and stuff but if we have the right to our self-defense then what do we have the right

00:03:18.840 to defend ourselves with of course i know it's tricky right um i know someone could say a knife

00:03:27.560 i mean it's not always feasible especially if somebody pulls a gun and you're not gonna pull a

00:03:31.160 knife the gun is obviously the greatest option for self-defense nine out of ten times in any

00:03:36.520 kind of situation i would i would assume then if that person who lost the right to own a gun

00:03:46.660 still had a gun that they could still be allowed to use it in self-defense given that circumstance

00:03:51.760 but then that just kind of makes the whole laws of gun rights obsolete if nobody really obeys by

00:03:58.240 it's tricky

00:04:01.620 I've thought about this one for so long

00:04:10.560 because I've always been pro-gun

00:04:12.420 but I also understand

00:04:14.340 the reason behind certain legislations

00:04:17.840 not so much the liberal legislations

00:04:20.300 I've been a bit

00:04:22.340 fan of

00:04:23.160 the second amendment for the US

00:04:25.860 definitely agree with that

00:04:27.280 i think everybody should be able to own and carry a gun um with proper training with proper yeah

00:04:32.880 teaching vetting information stuff like that similar to driver's ed but uh

00:04:41.280 yeah i just i don't know how i would rectify

00:04:45.360 i'm trying not to use the mass shooter example because it's such an overused example and over

00:04:50.320 you know i know i'm trying to think of something a bit more yeah there are so many ways to prevent

00:04:55.120 mass shootings and like the best deterrent for any violence with a gun is to have someone a good guy

00:05:02.000 with the gun right um so i personally do think that anyone who is mentally stable should be able to

00:05:08.960 like we feel carry their own firearm right because there's just so many instances where it saved

00:05:13.440 lives absolutely right so definitely agree with that yeah i'm just yeah i know i was trying to

00:05:20.640 think it's anything other than like the mass shoot argument i do i do think see it's this

00:05:28.240 is where i also have cognitive dissonance on this one because for example in the states i travel

00:05:34.000 there a lot i'm frequent in the states i love the fact that they have as many guns they want

00:05:40.720 i also think the amount of guns sometimes the access is problematic for certain individuals

00:05:50.640 Yeah, so in the States, there is like training and licensing or at least some way to vet people, like make sure that they're able to actually have the gun, right?

00:06:05.740 So there's a legal way to purchase a gun in the States and most States, I think. So it still happens in the States that those who want to create or do criminal acts, they go through legal avenues, right? So, and that's, that's the case of Canada as well.

00:06:19.880 So, I think we really should eliminate any way for someone to illegally obtain a firearm.

00:06:27.580 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:06:28.860 The one thing that I always think about, and I notice this with debates all throughout,

00:06:34.660 and I've never been able to think of my own kind of answer to it,

00:06:38.040 I'm obviously against 100% blanket bans on anything.

00:06:42.040 But then when you notice about Australia,

00:06:43.860 when they've completely removed the vast majority of the guns to almost extinct.

00:06:49.480 Yeah.

00:06:49.880 the mass shooting rate has plummeted and i obviously there's certain cultural aspects to it

00:06:57.400 but i do think there's some almost a little bit of truth though it might be extremely radical to

00:07:03.480 completely eliminate guns all together like yeah if that makes sense i i yeah like the stats you

00:07:13.160 know the stats of obviously machines have gone down after that because they don't have as much

00:07:18.200 access for mass shootings on mass stabbings different story everybody's going to find a way

00:07:22.440 to to do it but it's i would say to the reduction of harm or the reduction of potential

00:07:28.360 casualty numbers and harms is pretty important whereas guns obviously give you an easier access

00:07:33.160 and higher chance to for more casualties i mean that's just a quick thing yeah cars as well though

00:07:39.320 yes actually they're almost as more dangerous yes i which i would agree the difference between

00:07:46.760 a mass casualty thing with cars is once you stop the car like once you crash the car you're not

00:07:55.160 really but yes it's still people are going to find a way no matter what and i do think everybody

00:08:01.660 should have the right to carry that i just i'm trying to rectify on how i would

00:08:07.780 there's no perfect system you know there's no there's no perfect system with imperfect people

00:08:14.720 No, exactly. It's tough. We're not going to have more Big Brother to try and dig up through our social media to see if we're mentally stable.

00:08:25.780 Yeah, I know. For cow holders in Canada, it's sort of like daily background checks. It's ridiculous. 1.00

00:08:32.060 Absolutely. I've looked into it myself. But yeah, I guess that would be, at the end of the day, I'd say it's a right until you lose the bill. 0.96

00:08:42.000 yeah how certain people probably shouldn't be allowed to have kids i don't think certain people

00:08:49.200 should be able to have kids if they've been determined as an unfit parent or

00:08:54.720 sexual disorders or anything like that okay yeah similar to that okay you have rights until you're

00:09:02.320 proven ineligible for rights but then again but it gets really slippery then when you're

00:09:08.080 determining that someone's ineligible for that right and that that gets rid of the whole concept

00:09:13.520 of rights as right yeah i kind of just taught myself on that yeah that's uh yeah because if

00:09:22.660 you can say that someone is ineligible for the right then who determines that and then that's

00:09:27.700 going to be like okay there's someone higher that determines when you're not and then you get into

00:09:34.140 socialism and big government and it's like at that point it's difficult so yeah

00:09:38.780 with philosophical levels it's hard to argue it's interesting thing yeah

00:09:45.300 appreciate that there's definitely something for me to think about on on how to uh how to do it

Unify Action - November 05, 2025

He Tried to Prove Gun Ownership Isn’t a Right… Then Got Stumped

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