Unify Action - December 02, 2025


He Wants CASTLE LAW — But Says Canadians Can’t Defend Themselves ANYWHERE Else?!

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In this episode, we discuss gun ownership, open carry vs. concealed carry, and whether or not it should be legal to own a firearm in your home. We also discuss mental health issues in relation to guns and gun control.

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00:00:00.000 Once you have a lot of people with firearms at the same time, it can go from one crazy person
00:00:05.620 who has a gun to a shootout. You want to know my position on gun ownership? Yes. Okay. So I believe
00:00:13.340 that self-defense is a fundamental human right. I believe that every human has the right to defend
00:00:18.280 themselves. And when it comes to gun ownership, when someone says you can't own a gun, they're
00:00:23.120 saying that you can't defend yourself with that weapon. So they're basically, they're placing a
00:00:27.380 limit on what you can defend yourself with. They're placing a limit on that right to defend
00:00:31.960 yourself. That's how I view things. But also, when you look at the numbers, the crime and the
00:00:38.180 homicides that happen with firearms aren't actually legal gun owners in Canada. It's very difficult to
00:00:43.460 get a firearm in Canada, and the process is quite long. So it's called the PAL, your Possession and
00:00:50.740 acquisition license um are you familiar with the process to get it i am yeah i am familiar
00:00:56.000 my my uncle owns a firearm and it's an absolute hassle just to grab any sort of rifle or there's
00:01:02.720 it's it is a hassle yeah i don't know too much about the exact process towards getting a firearm
00:01:08.300 but i know it's it's a drop of the bucket compared to well in the u.s it's a drop in the bucket
00:01:13.880 compared to in canada so i would say i i just want to ask for you on your stance of if it's
00:01:21.640 fine for in your house i think it's totally fine but where it becomes open carry i have a totally
00:01:27.620 different stance on i want to know your stance on open carry okay so i don't think there should be
00:01:32.800 open carry i think it should be concealed carry okay um because when you get to open carry then
00:01:38.620 a criminal can see that firearm and then attempt to take it from you and there's actually more
00:01:42.900 danger so they they know who has the weapon but when it's concealed carry then they have to be
00:01:47.460 more cautious about who to harm in society because there could be someone there walking around with
00:01:52.540 a firearm and they had they suddenly they have that little check to be like oh okay maybe i
00:01:57.320 should reconsider committing this crime because someone could actually harm me is that like that
00:02:02.300 reverse justice like that if you or well it's justice basically that if you harm someone and
00:02:08.160 then the harm can come back to you right so that's i i think we should have concealed carry but it 0.99
00:02:12.700 should be it should be responsible right so someone what happens with um pal holders today 0.93
00:02:20.160 is that every 24 hours they get a background check like the government checks us 24 every 24 hours to 1.00
00:02:26.520 see that we're complying if we've say committed a crime if we if they look at us and see that
00:02:33.660 there's like any inconsistency in our mental health they'll actually revoke our pal so it's
00:02:38.320 very safe system and i personally don't want to see it changed but right now the government is
00:02:44.760 actually revoking all sorts of firearms from law-abiding gun owners like they're taking these
00:02:50.760 away and we have done nothing wrong with them they're hunting rifles there's really no reason
00:02:56.940 why we shouldn't have them but they're basically infringing on that right right that's where i
00:03:02.480 stand on it okay i i think it's a bit different for concealed carry too i don't think especially
00:03:08.080 in this country you should have a reason to bring a weapon especially out in the open i think more
00:03:14.060 of our crime problem tends to happen in break-ins and armed assault so those those issues are more
00:03:21.520 of people coming in breaking into your car taking your jewelry and other expenses in your household
00:03:28.220 compared to crime on the streets i'm not saying there isn't uh crime definitely is growing at a
00:03:34.220 rapid pace around the country but I would say right now our problems especially with law making
00:03:39.400 are the sentencing and the slap on the wrist that you get for any breaking crimes or other
00:03:44.800 petty crimes like that and I think that it should be legal to own a firearm in your house and I
00:03:53.020 think you should be able to use that firearm in your house to as much as you deem responsible
00:03:59.740 but i just i have to degree it on my own half for concealed like i i personally don't understand
00:04:07.820 open carry but concealed is a bit more difficult because and you see this happen a lot of times
00:04:14.820 in the u.s with a lot of people shooting out and i just think it's safer for the community to have
00:04:24.080 less firearms out in the open but i think it's safe to have uh firearms concealed at home you
00:04:31.160 see i like i the only research i've done too much about concealed around other places in the world
00:04:36.280 there are places like finland where you have a large gun ownership especially in your own house
00:04:40.860 and that's more to protect your family but in terms of outside gun ownership it's merely for
00:04:47.320 hunting and i think that's totally fine and i think as much as i'm not a hunter myself i think
00:04:52.940 that's uh an activity that should be shouldn't be as much restricted as this in canada but
00:05:01.800 that's i'd say that's my stance i don't have too many other words on it but you know i agree with
00:05:07.480 you with some things for change especially more for changing the laws about how you can control
00:05:13.200 in-house uh firearm use and what you deem responsible for keeping your family safe and
00:05:21.800 keeping yourself safe and especially your possessions as well so basically castle law
00:05:25.560 basically castle law yeah i would say so and i i think there is it is hard because there are some
00:05:32.080 some caveats to that law as well but i think if you look at it from a bigger picture right now
00:05:39.520 the system isn't working and i would say that the castle law while not perfect
00:05:46.880 has worked tremendously more than
00:05:50.940 whatever is in place right now.
00:05:54.980 And I know your question here is about the liberals.
00:05:59.120 I wouldn't say exactly.
00:06:00.760 I know that those are liberal laws.
00:06:04.280 I don't know if that's exactly liberal agenda.
00:06:07.060 I think that's the agenda being pushed at the moment
00:06:09.600 because I don't think that liberal agenda
00:06:11.900 should be pushed for what they stand for.
00:06:15.420 but I would say that law definitely needs to be changed
00:06:20.560 and many other laws about protecting yourself
00:06:23.660 and people loved and your family
00:06:25.420 definitely need to be changed in order to keep the country more safe
00:06:28.960 Yeah, so as far as the Liberal Party
00:06:33.160 the policies that they have to push
00:06:37.520 are the policies of the National Council of the Liberal Party
00:06:39.980 or whatever they call themselves
00:06:41.380 so they dictate the policies that the party has to implement
00:06:45.380 and they dictate what Mark Carney can and cannot say.
00:06:48.580 So, in a way, the policies that they're pushing are the policies of the Liberal Party.
00:06:54.660 Whether those reflect actual Liberal voters is a different thing.
00:06:58.380 And I think it's a very prevalent thing that, like you and me,
00:07:03.520 we both agree that there should be castle law,
00:07:05.580 there should be, you know, partial punishment for criminals and things like that.
00:07:10.780 And we both agree on that.
00:07:11.820 um but to uh to the concealed carry so in the united states there are roughly 50 000 firearm
00:07:21.240 related deaths every year 58 percent are suicides um to the rest though those are majority of them
00:07:29.960 are gang related violence but what people don't talk about is that there is actually about 500
00:07:35.760 000 instances of people defending themselves with firearms and actually preventing death
00:07:40.440 uh is that every year house or is that out in the open sorry is that in in your place of residence
00:07:47.500 or is that out in the open because i i'm just curious i think it's both i don't know the
00:07:52.980 like the distinction i think it would it would be both and i've heard stories of people who talk
00:07:57.880 about how they have had like a firearm in their car and they prevented like carjackings they just
00:08:03.140 simply present the weapon in the open and like the crime is immediately prevented so i do think
00:08:10.180 there is some potential for like like a concealed carry like a good guy with a gun is the one that
00:08:20.060 is best able to stop a bad guy with a gun okay would you agree i would i would agree but it's
00:08:26.460 also you don't know what the motives of the guy is so for example just from personal experience
00:08:34.120 my uncle lives in cleveland ohio ohio very gun state very open carry state so he had an experience
00:08:43.680 where same thing his firearm wasn't on him but it was in his car didn't take it don't know what
00:08:51.500 store he was at but he went into the store and there's an instant where him and some other guy
00:08:59.160 got into multiplication at the store one thing leads to another the other guy pulls out a firearm
00:09:04.920 now he was able to de-escalate the situation without a firearm and what that situation would
00:09:13.200 have been with a firearm we don't know we don't know if any shots would have been fired but i do
00:09:18.900 think that de-escalation is better than force i agree and i think especially with words unless
00:09:28.420 it's somebody who i don't want to say mentally unstable but mentally unstable um with a firearm
00:09:36.160 doesn't have the awareness to know what good from bad is i would think most good people or bad people
00:09:44.560 in tough situations wouldn't click that trigger and I think most situations similar to that
00:09:51.280 could be easily de-escalated if both sides know what the motive is and especially if you
00:09:59.600 are able to calm the other person down maybe if you just I don't want to say like give your wallet
00:10:06.740 or anything like that but it sure is better than having somebody lose their life and especially if
00:10:14.880 that's somebody who's previously been convicted or um just a previously as you say bad guy
00:10:23.980 then i would say de-escalation is the way to go and definitely that is ideal but some people can't
00:10:32.340 be reasoned with. So, in my opinion, I think just where we disagree is that I believe there
00:10:38.320 should be more of a level playing field where the mentally healthy are able to defend themselves.
00:10:43.300 And then the mentally ill, they have that check where they know that someone, if they go through
00:10:50.680 with some evil action, there could be a bad consequence for them. That's kind of where I stand. 0.70