00:01:53.140and the situations where you're talking about, those
00:01:55.260have happened but there's always been warning right to people around them that are like there's
00:02:01.040always been warning right so i may have very strange political views so i can keep them
00:02:06.040completely quiet if you're a reasonably intelligent person you can keep your plans quiet and
00:02:11.700unleash them on on people in a horrific way if you so decided build up an arsenal what
00:02:18.220say go to a concert there's loads of situations where you could cause absolute havoc with a
00:02:23.200right you know a military style machine gun um and to allow people to have that personally in
00:02:30.400their own possession i think is too far while having in the us but not the uk where virtually
00:02:36.320no criminals have guns it's it's very unusual that there's arms conflict in the uk but there's
00:02:42.320also a lot of knife violence right so you can have a knife at home no problem with that at all
00:02:46.800yeah but to have to allow everyone it's it's the escalation of things when you when people
00:02:51.280will start handing out guns i i suffer from road rage when people do terrible things to me on the
00:02:56.160one and when people annoy me on the road i've done things especially when i was younger that
00:02:59.980with hindsight were irrational and had i had a gun i may have used it there was a case when i was
00:03:04.920crossing the road in germany 25 years ago where a guy in a brand new porsche drove because we were
00:03:10.420crossing slightly illegally because you can't cross when it's not green and he thought he'd
00:03:15.300teach us a lesson by driving extremely fast at towards us so we had to really run out of the
00:03:19.540way had i had a gun on me at that moment with my fury i may have shot at him and killed him or
00:03:24.620whatever or bystanders that would have been terrible uh on so many ways so it's all a matter
00:03:30.200of balance so in the us i don't know what the candid canadian criminal classes are like i can
00:03:35.320understand having a handgun in your home would be proportionate but having any type of automatic
00:03:41.180military style weapon is not but you can have a club where we can carefully control it and you
00:03:46.500can play to your heart's content yeah with military style apparatus but you can't take it
00:03:51.480out you can play with it there with your friends yeah so the situations we're talking about where
00:03:56.980there has been mass violence it has been so much worse because there has been no one there no good
00:04:03.500guy with a gun to stop the bad guy with the gun right yeah we can point to situations like in
00:04:09.160texas the church is the dream situation of lots of say how do you put it men alpha type men to
00:04:14.980think, whoa, imagine somebody starts shooting here and I had my gun and I could put them down
00:04:19.680and I'd be a hero. I can understand that mentality 100%, but I can assure you, if I was planning
00:04:24.980a mass killing with my automatic weapon, I would kill loads of people before somebody got to me.0.58
00:04:31.100In fact, that would be part of my plan. I wouldn't want to live beyond that point. I think I want to0.99
00:04:35.360go out with a bang. It'll be great. I'll kill lots of people. Finally, somebody will kill me. That was
00:04:39.620my intention but I've hundreds of people I'll be famous and my political cause
00:04:45.020may get loads of airtime so yeah yes but more people would be saved if someone
00:04:52.160else close to them had a gun like if you look at situations in churches in Texas
00:04:56.180where they have seen the clips yeah so they are so many lives the ideal
00:05:00.980situation where somebody comes in you know about to shoot and so somebody's
00:05:05.480armed who just shoots them and those have occurred but there's if you look at the maths i'm an
00:05:10.360engineer you look at the maths it doesn't make sense those are rare cases where the guy who does
00:05:15.560it or the woman i've seen the woman do it too uh they feel great but in the overall scheme of things
00:05:22.360um the number of people killed by mass shooters is is far higher it uh wouldn't it be more ideal
00:05:30.280though like given that wouldn't it be more ideal to have more people who we know are mentally sound
00:05:35.540with their firearms concealed pretty mentally sound and there's but i can lose it to a degree
00:05:41.080as as well and i don't think it would be sensible for me to walk around with a gun all the time i
00:05:46.320just don't it's because i can lose my temper and have a really bad time with somebody and 10 minutes
00:05:51.060later think oh my god i just i'm so apologetic you know oh i'm really sorry that i i there was
00:05:57.000parking space issue a few months ago and i really had a go at the guy and told him off and now half
00:06:03.420an hour later i felt huge remorse the oh my god that poor guy i just had a bad day he parked
00:06:09.000terribly i launched on him yeah and then half an hour later you think oh no i'm really i'm probably
00:06:15.020ruined his day just because i was in a bad mood so it's proportional yeah so back to your i'm
00:06:22.140going to get over to the football or I'll get told off by my wife proportionally in America where
00:06:27.720lots of criminals have guns having a handgun you know a manual handgun at home probably a sensible
00:06:34.000thing to allow um especially you know maybe you should be mentally checked for that somebody who's
00:06:38.540got schizophrenic issues or whatever yes well that's what happens in Canada we get I get a
00:06:43.240background check every single day because I'm licensed to hold a firearm okay well that's that's
00:06:47.400that sensible enough but as as i said if i was planning a mass you know event um the u.s law
00:06:54.300seemed to be ideal for me so you know that's something i would you know being british to try
00:06:59.400and keep it you know pretty uh pretty even pretty you know um uh taking all factors into account and
00:07:07.020come to a sensible conclusion i hope that if there are any more questions yeah no i i did get it yeah
00:07:12.040It's just, if I were in that position and I wanted to go out with a bang, I would want to take as many people with me.
00:07:19.160Like, looking at the people that have done that, I would not go to a place where I could potentially be, my life could be ended before I could succeed, right?
00:07:30.180Okay, what I would do, so you've got hundreds of people watching the football.