Unify Action - July 06, 2026


I Said Guns Are A RIGHT - Then He Attacked My Faith


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951

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In this episode, I sit down with a Christian philosopher to discuss the topic of gun rights and gun control. We discuss gun control, gun rights, and the role of the Bible in our understanding of the topic.

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00:00:00.000 I just want to hear of you.
00:00:01.060 Yeah, okay.
00:00:02.160 So, I think gun ownership is a right.
00:00:04.200 I think that someone should be able to defend themselves.
00:00:06.540 Let's define right.
00:00:07.500 Okay.
00:00:08.920 So, I think self-defense is a right.
00:00:12.460 What is a right?
00:00:14.340 Your God-given ability to do something.
00:00:16.700 So, it's a God-given right?
00:00:18.240 Yes, I think so.
00:00:19.280 It's also like your reasonable right.
00:00:21.220 Like your natural right.
00:00:22.820 Rights, how do you derive rights?
00:00:24.440 From God. 0.59
00:00:25.120 Okay, so as God said, gun ownership is a right?
00:00:27.780 No, but it did say sell your cloak and buy a sword if you don't have one.
00:00:32.100 Okay, so your entire argument is based on Christian biblical scripture?
00:00:37.220 No, but that is part of it.
00:00:40.680 I also see it for outside as well.
00:00:43.680 But you're saying your right comes from God?
00:00:46.160 Yes, they are.
00:00:46.960 And that comes from Christian biblical scripture?
00:00:50.380 Yes.
00:00:50.760 So therefore, if I disagree with the Bible, your entire argument falls apart?
00:00:55.500 Yes, but you could still say that...
00:00:57.760 But if we're starting on two completely different platforms,
00:01:00.500 there's no way that I can convince you, nor can you convince me.
00:01:03.240 But you could also look at natural rights.
00:01:05.020 No, but you're saying right.
00:01:06.760 That's why I asked the first question, is what is your right?
00:01:09.800 How do you define it?
00:01:11.040 You said your right comes from God.
00:01:13.360 Yes, as your innate human being.
00:01:15.240 No, no, but that you've clearly defined just now
00:01:18.060 as being something that's come from Scripture.
00:01:21.040 God's right.
00:01:21.840 Therefore, if I reject your Scripture, your argument falls apart. 0.99
00:01:25.740 it would yes 1.00
00:01:27.680 but I believe
00:01:28.200 that my scriptures
00:01:28.840 are
00:01:29.080 exactly
00:01:29.320 that's why
00:01:30.700 you can't change
00:01:31.240 your mind
00:01:31.500 because actually
00:01:32.220 the question
00:01:32.520 you're not asking
00:01:33.080 isn't about gun ownership
00:01:34.760 the question you're asking
00:01:36.400 is rights coming
00:01:37.920 from the bible
00:01:38.400 that's what you're asking
00:01:39.520 yes
00:01:40.140 we could also
00:01:41.100 we could also
00:01:42.640 completely remove
00:01:44.080 the bible 0.99
00:01:44.400 from the situation
00:01:45.120 it's not about
00:01:45.580 national rights
00:01:46.140 you've just defined
00:01:46.940 to me
00:01:47.400 yes
00:01:48.040 rights are defined
00:01:48.880 we could define
00:01:49.580 rights outside of that
00:01:50.900 I'm working with
00:01:51.500 your definition
00:01:52.020 that's why I asked
00:01:53.120 the first question
00:01:53.580 I asked is
00:01:53.940 what is a right
00:01:54.460 you said
00:01:55.400 a biblical defined right from god yes if i reject that definition then you have to
00:02:01.240 falls apart you could logically derive rights from somewhere else how natural rights like
00:02:05.960 animals well you look at nature you look at how nature works and it is reasonable for an
00:02:12.600 individual subjective conjecture that's not evidence-based objective in any way that's your
00:02:16.600 opinion well i agree that's why i agree with you when it comes to looking at scripture you can say
00:02:23.240 say that's an objective moral right fine but i reject your scripture okay so that is why if
00:02:28.760 you're trying to have a conversation about rights you've defined it through scripture natural right
00:02:33.080 that's your i can have an opinion it's not necessarily only my opinion there's been a lot
00:02:39.460 of people there are other philosophers and authors have written and agreed with that and
00:02:42.860 humanists and whatsoever but that's your opinion the only thing that's an objective reality which
00:02:47.720 is i agree from your perspective is if you tie things back to god i would agree with that i would
00:02:52.040 agree with that too but when you come down towards it your evidence is scripture if i reject your
00:02:58.040 scripture your argument falls apart you're false i still think you could make the argument that you
00:03:06.720 can drive natural rights outside of scripture i don't think it necessarily falls apart based on
00:03:11.540 nature and based on natural yes when you see in nature that you see that's an opinion
00:03:16.180 not necessarily it is very it is how is the objective it's very obvious to see that an
00:03:23.040 animal will defend it's obvious to see for you fine that's subjective still how is that objective
00:03:28.100 it is natural animal rights that's subjective that's your opinion i wouldn't necessarily
00:03:34.980 if i if i wanted again to be wild i could say i reject that that's your opinion i think actually
00:03:42.280 No, a human has the right to do whatever he wants
00:03:44.960 And kill whatever he wants, for example
00:03:46.540 Or not to kill 0.89
00:03:47.680 That's not me saying from an objective moral basis
00:03:50.940 That's me just giving a subjective opinion
00:03:53.020 So I think the only argument that you do have
00:03:56.620 That does have weight
00:03:57.500 Is if you're deriving to God
00:03:58.920 Saying, you know what, this is from God's scripture
00:04:00.920 But like I said, where it does fall apart
00:04:03.020 Is if I reject your scripture
00:04:04.320 Then your argument doesn't hold true
00:04:05.900 But is my scripture true?
00:04:09.280 Exactly, so that's what I'm saying
00:04:10.320 Your question is wrong
00:04:11.140 that's not really what you're asking what you're asking is is my belief in the bible is that
00:04:16.940 rational is that true that's the real question because you can ask this a hundred different
00:04:21.100 ways you could ask do i have a right to steal do i have a right x y z the actual question is about
00:04:25.560 rights not about guns specifically yes that is true and then if you look at evidence-based
00:04:31.160 forgetting the the moral basis for rights evidence-based shows that countries that have
00:04:36.900 allowed citizens to hold guns they're the ones with higher death rates they're the ones with
00:04:40.220 so ultimately your whole conversation comes down to biblical scripture if you deny the scripture
00:04:48.480 you deny the argument well then with then if you deny my scriptures then we have to have the
00:04:53.320 conversation about whether my scriptures are true or not but so long as we understand if you deny
00:04:57.840 the scripture then you deny your argument yes that's true thank you very much