Unify Action - She Says Essentials Should Be Free… I Asked Who Pays

00:00:00.000 I think everyone should have access to food. I don't think people should have to pay for food.

00:00:02.600 I don't think people should have to pay for water. I don't think people should have to pay for housing.

00:00:05.720 I think everyone should be able to have access to clothes and, you know, not be...

00:00:09.040 No one wants to walk around the streets naked.

00:00:10.560 So you have the right to someone else's work.

00:00:13.940 Um, like, otherwise, they have no incentive to continue to do that efficiently or in sufficient quality or in sufficient quantity.

00:00:22.120 Are you leaning more so, like, strictly capitalism or more so fascism?

00:00:26.200 Capitalism.

00:00:26.780 Capitalism, strictly capitalism?

00:00:27.820 yeah so fascism is really a sister to socialism kind of because it's a large government there's

00:00:35.160 speech restrictions it's hyper-nationalistic incorrect so fascism i'm taking a degree in

00:00:40.140 criminal justice and public policy okay so i'm and i'm also a deeply political person i pride

00:00:44.620 myself in learning about all different kinds of politics um i describe myself as a socialist um

00:00:50.520 okay more so on the i describe myself as socially um like in terms of socially socialism and then

00:00:59.780 um economically like fiscally conservative that is how i describe myself as a person

00:01:04.720 interesting okay and do you want to debate are you okay yeah yeah could i just get you a little

00:01:10.380 closer so we could kind of yeah okay yeah go ahead the way i personally think of social so

00:01:17.820 it goes on the two you have the two sides of the political spectrum you have communism and you

00:01:21.560 have fascism fascism is the far right of our political spectrum and communism is the far left

00:01:26.840 do i think communism can exist no i don't think it's a feasible i don't think it can exist same

00:01:31.960 way i don't think fascism can like exist either communism is solely it it has a saying that's

00:01:41.100 power to the people which essentially means that the power the people are in control but the reason

00:01:47.380 that it is not feasible is if you're say looking at it from the marxist definition of communism it

00:01:52.100 is a stateless classless moneyless society in our current society we cannot have that we already have

00:01:57.300 money we already have states to remove that is to remove everything that we currently live and exist

00:02:02.180 on and it also removes human aspiration and drive and wanting to work for themselves and wanting to

00:02:09.460 do what they would want with their lives so that's communism right there communism is equally

00:02:13.540 contributing to everyone but you don't really have necessarily have that um drive to achieve

00:02:19.720 for more but there's no restrictions on speech or those kind of things that's when you more so get

00:02:27.800 into I like to think of the political spectrum more so as a circle than less of like a straight

00:02:32.720 line because you kind of so you're more like horseshoe theory you've heard of that yeah a

00:02:37.760 little bit and that like that's why I mean when I say like I'm very like socially liberal and then

00:02:41.040 very fiscally conservative i do think like i said i don't think communism is possible um like same

00:02:45.920 way i don't think fascism is possible but i think the issue i have with capitalist societies is

00:02:52.080 capitalist societies thrive off oppression they thrive off of poverty they thrive off of

00:02:58.480 a booming marketplace they thrive off of greed um which the way we the way i currently actively

00:03:05.200 look at it is the more of a booming marketplace that we have the more we push on sales and yes

00:03:13.300 working for yourself to get I heard what you were saying earlier and I completely agree with that

00:03:16.280 I think being self-sustainable and working for yourself is the ideal but I don't necessarily

00:03:20.100 think that's capitalist capitalist is about the marketplace it is about what is the market though

00:03:26.220 the market is I mean it depends on how you personally interpret like the market I like to

00:03:31.480 it's a global thing the marketplace is a global thing it's where sale of goods if you want in the

00:03:37.200 most basic simple definition in terms of like business it is where the sale of goods takes

00:03:43.260 place or the trading of goods but it's inherently people it is you are correct it is inherently in

00:03:47.940 that and those goods are provided by people and made by people and you are correct in that

00:03:50.880 um i personally just don't think that fighting like having having to choose between okay i need

00:03:59.660 to pay for this or do I need to pay for that that's kind of where you start getting into the

00:04:04.100 capitalism of we're focusing too much on the money aspect of it and like I said I think working for

00:04:11.520 yourself and being self-sustainable is good but I don't necessarily like in my brain self-sustainable

00:04:15.980 is when I'm older I would love to live off the land I would love to live off the grid

00:04:18.540 and work for myself and you know have my own farm have my own land bake my own food that is my dream

00:04:24.160 when i'm older yeah mine too yeah but personally to me that is less that is not necessarily

00:04:29.600 capitalism that to me that that's removing myself from the marketplace i don't want to have to rely

00:04:34.440 on the government i don't want to have to rely on the marketplace in order to achieve what i want

00:04:40.280 if you're looking at it in terms of a um strictly political definition sense of the word if that

00:04:46.600 makes sense yeah okay i think we agree on a lot yeah but where i would kind of peg my disagreement

00:04:53.560 is that i don't actually think capitalism is inherently oppression so when there is transfer

00:04:59.480 of money it's not necessarily a zero-sum game yeah it's both sides actually gain like if you

00:05:07.280 were to go say buy lunch the producer of whatever you eat gains and you gain as well so when someone

00:05:15.260 makes a service like say amazon you're gaining from fast and reliable service and they're gaining

00:05:22.360 your money basically yeah right so i don't think that it's a zero-sum game i wouldn't necessarily

00:05:28.740 say capitalism is oppression no i don't think it is oppression it thrives off of oppression i think

00:05:33.800 there's a very big difference between those two things okay um and where i what i mean by that

00:05:38.920 is that i personally don't think and yes you're right like it's not a it's not a zero-sum game

00:05:43.740 i buy something they obviously benefit from something and i benefit from something um but

00:05:48.140 i personally don't think i think everyone should have access to food i don't think people should

00:05:51.840 have to pay for food i don't think people should have to pay for water i don't think people should

00:05:54.940 have to pay for housing i don't think people should have to pay money for their basic necessities and

00:05:59.380 basic rights luxuries yes i think do i need to have access to every single streaming service on

00:06:05.700 the planet no that is not a basic necessity that i need to survive um do i need food to survive yes

00:06:11.020 do i need water to survive yes do i need shelter to survive yes if you're looking at like the

00:06:15.200 hierarchy of needs i need those things to survive but i luxuries i completely agree with yes i think

00:06:21.300 you should have to have some kind of transaction there in order to receive luxuries but certain

00:06:25.040 basic needs i don't necessarily think that we should have to pay for that and i think that's

00:06:30.160 where i'm kind of not on the side with capitalism is that everything needs to be some kind of

00:06:35.540 transaction and i don't necessarily agree with that okay so then you would say you have a right

00:06:41.940 you say you agree that you say you would have a right to food to water i think everyone i think

00:06:47.540 everyone has a right to food water shelter the basic necessities so you have the right to someone

00:06:52.540 else's work um no not necessarily but like what i mean like i think if we can provide for ourselves

00:07:00.940 that's great but not everyone has those means or resources or is physically able to um do those

00:07:07.420 things or like people who don't have the physical capabilities to work on a farm and to provide

00:07:12.420 themselves with that food um and there's other people doing other things like we all there's

00:07:17.680 all different kinds of traits right but I personally don't see an issue if I have enough

00:07:22.400 food for myself and I have enough left over I don't see an issue in giving that to people for

00:07:27.960 free personally that's that's personally just me I think what if it's like your employment

00:07:32.640 right if it's your job to provide other people food like you're basically saying that someone

00:07:39.940 else has the right to your labor for free if someone if it means they have access to the basic

00:07:47.620 things that they need to live and it helps them survive and helps them thrive then i have no

00:07:50.980 issue with that and i think and i know that is a very a lot of people don't necessarily agree with

00:07:56.120 that i think it's a bit different like i i i really do think that like we should go back to

00:08:03.040 the old system of things of like oh you have like a bunch of corn i need my tap fixed can you fix

00:08:09.900 that for me and i'll give you this corn sure that's great i i would much rather a trade of

00:08:15.400 services than a trade of money and goods if that makes sense it's not feasible in every instance

00:08:20.400 absolutely no you are correct you are correct but i i think and that's that's where i go back to

00:08:25.100 the i think certain luxuries we shouldn't luxuries aren't you don't need luxuries to survive i'd like

00:08:31.900 said i don't need every single streaming service on the planet to survive i don't need the newest

00:08:36.120 Xbox in order to survive. I don't need those things in order to live fully. But I do need

00:08:42.660 food. I do need water. I do need shelter in order to live. And I think every single person should

00:08:47.360 have access to that regardless of where they land in society, what physical capabilities they have

00:08:53.180 or don't have. And like I said, I know a lot of people will disagree with that, but I see no issue

00:08:59.760 if I have enough food myself and I have enough food left over. I will gladly give that to my

00:09:03.540 neighbors i will gladly give that to my friends for free because they're just as equally deserving

00:09:07.180 as it as i am even if that does mean i work for it if they are benefiting off of it and that is

00:09:12.420 benefiting the entirety of the people if they are able to um have food water and shelter and that

00:09:19.760 makes them you know healthy enough to be able to go out and work and benefit everyone else as a

00:09:23.460 society okay that's fine they're benefiting everyone else if my work helps them benefit

00:09:28.220 at others then i'm okay with that so suppose that someone it was their it's their employment to

00:09:34.520 produce food yeah right so someone else has the right to their service without paying for it

00:09:39.980 how is that person supposed to maintain a good life and continue to produce that service like

00:09:47.240 how does that even work what i'm saying is um you have obviously some of that that food for

00:09:52.900 yourself you don't just give all of it away and then you give everyone their their needed share

00:09:57.500 of what they need um a big thing that I like to always distinguish is the difference between

00:10:02.140 equity and equality I think equity is extremely important um more so than equality everyone gets

00:10:08.060 what they need not everyone gets the same if that makes sense um so but if some say someone wants

00:10:14.980 a little bit more of something and they don't necessarily mean it then sure you would have to

00:10:20.800 pay a fee for that you would have to do some kind of transactional thing for that um and I think

00:10:25.620 that's where because because we do have a lot of excess and goods that that is I can't even think

00:10:32.380 tons and tons of clothes go to waste every single year and it's extremely wasteful um I think

00:10:39.120 everyone should be able to have access to clothes and you know not be no one wants to walk around

00:10:43.640 the streets naked and cold so I think everyone should have be able to have access to the clothes

00:10:46.940 but say you want extra clothes or you want clothes that like you don't necessarily need like you want

00:10:54.600 like three winter jackets instead of two or what for whatever reason i think you should then have

00:10:59.860 to pay or trade some kind of service then um but i don't that that's that's like more thing i think

00:11:06.420 we should all be able to have access to our basic necessities because we're all equally

00:11:12.860 deserving of that regardless of who we are right um okay i don't think we're gonna totally agree

00:11:19.780 on no no and i i i understand that and i'm fine with that yeah yeah i just i see it i see it this

00:11:26.780 way so a lot of people it's their employment to produce these basic services right yeah and we

00:11:31.240 want to incentivize them to continue to produce those basic services yeah and the best way i think

00:11:37.120 is to continue to pay them for it yeah and like otherwise they have no incentive to continue to

00:11:42.580 do that efficiently or in sufficient quality or in sufficient quantity do do you think the

00:11:48.640 government can um pay those people without necessarily uh making others pay egregious

00:11:56.660 amounts for those basic needs and necessities okay yeah but where does government get that money

00:12:01.880 money is a money is a concept money we create money money is a man-made thing money is something

00:12:08.040 that humans have created and humans have deemed the value of i really i that that is something

00:12:13.940 that really boggles my mind we one day were just like that's silver coin i'm gonna give you value

00:12:18.600 and I'm going to decide how much that value is

00:12:20.120 and over time that has changed into this big worldwide thing

00:12:22.840 that fluctuates and changes over time

00:12:24.480 with the rising of the economy

00:12:27.560 and declining of increase of goods, decrease of goods

00:12:31.440 and increase of demand and decrease of demand

00:12:33.060 and that just changes everything

00:12:34.280 but money is at the end of the day a man-made thing

00:12:36.960 and a man-made concept

00:12:37.880 but see money is not, it's not wealth

00:12:42.560 it is the commodity that we transfer wealth with

00:12:46.000 yeah right and we want to make sure the wealth is transferred equally yes um so we need a stable

00:12:51.860 currency see we came worldwide we need a stable currency i think i definitely agree with that i

00:12:56.780 think worldwide we need to have one collective currency that is equal everywhere because the

00:13:02.760 changes between everyone's dollar and the changes between it's a lot of one it's just confusing i

00:13:08.920 don't want to it's just really confusing but at the end of the day i think it would just make

00:13:11.960 everything a lot easier um but i think and i know a lot of like the economy finance bros are going

00:13:18.960 to be like oh my god she's not she's talking about when i say this i don't understand why

00:13:22.180 we just can't increase the amount of money we make and i know there's the whole thing to it

00:13:25.000 of like oh that decreases the value of our dollar dollar and whatnot but why it is a man-made thing

00:13:30.240 it is a man-made idea um if we cannot fix the way we run our society where everyone can one

00:13:39.780 both have access to everything they need but then also yes at the end of the day still pay

00:13:45.180 what they want for luxuries and things like that i don't that's i think that's where like the thing

00:13:51.360 where money gets me is i i think the government can make more money i think the government has

00:13:56.240 enough money i also think the government spends too much and that this is like an entire different

00:14:00.020 conversation outside of socialism when you go into what the government is spending their money on i

00:14:04.340 don't think we should be spending as much money on the military that also just goes to i'm very

00:14:08.460 anti-war i don't think okay fighting is like that's that's an entirely different conversation

00:14:14.020 yeah and then using that's like even so money is it's not arbitrary the value of our dollar is

00:14:21.220 proportioned to the amount of wealth that we have in this country so like the more money

00:14:25.540 have you heard of the quantitative theory of money yes so like the more money that the government

00:14:31.480 prints the less each dollar is worth therefore the more money we need to pay for each good and

00:14:38.140 service right why why does it have that's like that's like why does it have to be like like i

00:14:42.920 said at the end of the day it is a man-made thing it is a man-made idea why does it have to why can't

00:14:48.100 we not just have all an equal dollar create as much money as we need to help people in order to

00:14:53.140 get by but when you create that dollar you're not creating wealth see the reason we have so much

00:14:59.980 inflation right now in this country is because they're printing this money and they're not

00:15:03.920 creating wealth with it

Unify Action - January 12, 2026

She Says Essentials Should Be Free… I Asked Who Pays

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