Unify Action - October 17, 2025


These British Immigrants EXPOSE Hate Speech Laws - ＂I Don't Care About Your Feelings＂

Hosted by
Sarah Dotzert
Mentioned
Bill C-63
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Length

5 minutes

Words per minute

199.26

Word count

1,012

Sentence count

25

Harmful content

Toxicity

3

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Summary

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In this episode, we talk about freedom, identity, and hate speech in Canada. We also discuss the Bill C-9 hate speech bill that is currently being debated in our parliament, and whether or not we should be concerned about it.

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00:00:00.000 because someone's feelings might might get hurt that that to me is a too lower bar
00:00:03.680 it is like no i don't care if your feelings get hurt
00:00:06.480 do you think diversity is our strength or is there need to be something more
00:00:13.620 to unify us i think diversity is a strength because um we don't need to be all
00:00:21.340 melded into one uh mixed up you know identity we can have you know people over there can be like
00:00:29.180 that and we can be like this and we can all get together and you know respect each other's um
00:00:34.140 cultures uh and all that sort of good stuff and um what was the first question you were talking
00:00:40.080 about as well um yeah so a lot of people say um a freedom and oh right yeah yeah and diversity
00:00:47.200 are our identities yeah yeah yeah so as for freedoms you said about how we don't harp on
00:00:52.540 about it as much that's because we don't need to yeah we don't we we know we have great freedoms
00:00:57.740 Unlike our friends a little bit further south, we don't need to sort of wear it on our sleeves and just ram it down everyone's throats
00:01:07.340 because we know we have freedom of speech, we know we have freedom of association, we know we can love who we want to love.
00:01:14.240 We just don't need to sing and dance about it.
00:01:16.360 I mean, maybe from a self-promotional point of view, from a Canadian point of view, maybe we should do a better job of that.
00:01:22.540 But, you know, I love being here.
00:01:26.360 We're an inclusive society.
00:01:28.000 Yes, very much so.
00:01:29.280 Yeah, very much so.
00:01:30.280 Yeah, and who was it who said,
00:01:33.760 there was a famous man in the 19th century
00:01:36.160 who said that if we don't continually fight for our freedoms
00:01:39.000 at some point, we will lose them.
00:01:40.880 So I do think we should be talking about our freedoms, absolutely.
00:01:44.640 Not to throw them around and say how boastful we are, right?
00:01:48.180 But we should be talking about them.
00:01:49.440 um and um i don't know are you guys aware of bill c9 that's going through our parliament right now
00:01:55.880 i know this is like totally off i don't know i don't know i don't know what bill c9 is i might
00:02:01.000 have may have heard of it but i doubt it but what is it about yeah so it's a hate speech law but
00:02:06.120 it basically it will give the government uh arbitrary power to govern speech how do you feel
00:02:13.260 about that well okay so it's a i think it's a fairly nuanced subject because at the end of the
00:02:20.260 day freedom of speech not only gives people the freedom to say that things that you agree with
00:02:25.300 but more importantly it gives them the freedom to voice opinions that you don't agree with
00:02:30.680 but the difference is there's a and i don't know where that line is but there's a fine line between
00:02:35.700 saying i don't like bob because he's ugly and saying i think all the people that look like bob 0.99
00:02:42.420 should be killed that that to me is obviously crossing a line into hate speech and i do think 0.98
00:02:47.080 that that sort of rhetoric needs to be held in check somehow but then i don't know who would 0.96
00:02:51.620 be calling on as to well you know is it free speech or is it hate speech i don't know it's
00:02:55.960 complicated subject but i don't think the government should be calm blunt should i don't
00:03:00.040 think the government should be given carte blanche but then i don't know how you would police it
00:03:03.760 yeah so right now we do have a section on our criminal code that when someone makes a threat
00:03:09.480 But they look at that threat, and if they can see reasonable intent that they would carry out that threat,
00:03:15.540 then that is criminalized and the person is charged, right?
00:03:17.740 And they can get up to five years for just a threat, right?
00:03:21.560 But this is more than that.
00:03:23.640 This hate speech law is more than that.
00:03:26.480 It's not clearly defined.
00:03:28.340 If you go read through the bill, Bill C-9, it's not very clearly defined what they say hate speech is.
00:03:33.700 So it could be like anything that could emotionally harm someone or it could be anything that would emotionally harm a politician or like the ruling class.
00:03:44.160 Right. Yeah. So that's why it seems to be more of an arbitrary power.
00:03:48.520 And I think we need to kind of speak up against this. Right.
00:03:51.700 What do you think? Yeah, I would agree against that.
00:03:53.920 I mean, at the end of the day, one of my favorite sayings is this.
00:03:57.900 Words are not offensive. People can choose to take offense, but that's on them.
00:04:02.480 so and also it's the intent behind something like you know we may throw around various
00:04:09.260 frowned upon words to describe certain people but that doesn't mean to say that you're a racist or
00:04:14.080 anything like that it just means like for example we're from england so i know that lime is a common
00:04:19.220 term for people from england but i don't know if you know i don't know whether it's meant to be
00:04:25.920 an offensive word or not but i don't take offense it just means that we were fed a lime on the
00:04:32.000 ships rather than giving our sailors scurvy so there you go so but yeah i mean i mean yeah
00:04:39.220 because someone's feelings might might get hurt that that to me is a too lower bar it is like no
00:04:44.240 i don't care if your feelings get hurt right because there's too much sensitivity now around
00:04:48.720 anything anyone can take sensitivities to anything no matter what it is it's like but
00:04:53.060 we're not meaning it that way we're meaning it as being light-hearted but you're taking it because
00:04:57.840 you're being too sensitive and that's the problem yeah definitely don't forget to smash that like
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