Unify Action - January 23, 2026


This 'Conservative' Voter's Idea Of Government Floored Me


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00:00:00.000 This channel started out about 10 months ago with us with some very old equipment out on the street
00:00:07.300 talking to students about voting and being politically active and there was a lot of
00:00:12.760 election content that we filmed that we never got out and there was one conversation that really
00:00:17.800 stuck with me and we just we didn't have time to get it out before the election and after the
00:00:22.520 election it would have seemed a little old but there were some things that this individual said
00:00:26.180 in our conversation that really shocked me. It was really confusing, and it was a conservative
00:00:33.040 voter who was talking about how we needed more socialism and more government spending,
00:00:38.100 which to me was quite perplexing. And at the time, I was not at all intellectually prepared
00:00:45.320 to take on his arguments. And I've done more reading since, and now I understand where he's
00:00:50.300 coming from, but I also understand why it's wrong. So today, we're going to go through this
00:00:54.500 conversation and i do apologize for the old mic this was a budget operation um but we're gonna
00:01:01.020 go through and i think you're gonna find some of what his arguments quite interesting uh so first
00:01:07.260 of all we have a liberal decades already um our gdp per capita the growth rate is the lowest
00:01:16.420 among G7. I don't think it's good result and I know Liberal Party blamed all this
00:01:24.340 on Trudeau's government and Trudeau's government rather than Mark Carney. We do
00:01:28.360 understand that but they are in the same party, they have the similar team if we
00:01:32.500 see the cabinet, right? So if Mark Carney or the Liberal Party do have the
00:01:37.840 message to get Canada a better economy, what were they doing in the past decade?
00:01:43.660 I'm under Trudeau's government for, well, when in 2015, I guess, I watched the debate and election he got into power.
00:01:57.660 And I think I'm not coming here suddenly like, oh, Canada is bad or something else.
00:02:02.660 Like, I do live in Canada the whole liberal decades. I'm not satisfied.
00:02:07.660 So I'm quite sure liberal won't get my vote.
00:02:10.660 And besides of conservatives, I'm not saying conservatives are perfect, but I don't think we really have a third choice regarding to Prime Ministers. That's my reason.
00:02:22.660 So is a socialist government what we should be leaning towards, or is capitalism better for Canada?
00:02:27.660 Well, to be honest, even though I support conservative party, but I think government-owned corporations or certain level of public-owned sector,
00:02:40.660 no better in the market or in healthcare somehow, I will say it's positive.
00:02:48.660 So when we talk about capitalism and socialism, someone will say, oh, if you support conservative, you want a smaller government,
00:02:55.660 you want lean more to capitalist capitalism but i think maybe it's not the case um so state-owned
00:03:04.860 corporations or all right i'm going to stop there and we're going to digest that point
00:03:10.620 so what he's saying is that you to be a conservative you don't have to want smaller
00:03:16.300 government and less government spending and more capitalism he's saying that socialism
00:03:20.780 is compatible with conservatism which to me is quite a interesting thing to say because
00:03:28.300 the whole point of being a conservative is that you you believe first and foremost in individual
00:03:33.740 liberty and individual freedom but he's saying like those are foundations of capitalism and the
00:03:40.780 western society those are conservative principles that you want everyone to be free and able to
00:03:47.100 succeed in life and that that's that's conservative but he's saying that's not
00:03:52.860 necessarily the case socialism is not conducive with freedom or free markets
00:03:58.940 socialism is not a conservative value but yet he's claiming that it is um so either he doesn't
00:04:05.740 understand conservatism or he's got an angle here that he's working so state-owned corporations
00:04:14.300 or state-owned project maybe looks like socialism but i think sometimes it may be beneficial yes
00:04:24.140 yes but do you think having a public like universal healthcare in canada do you think that
00:04:29.900 has helped is our healthcare system in good shape so first of all we have kind of universal healthcare
00:04:36.780 already and I don't think it's a good idea to abolish it completely but we do
00:04:43.980 see a lot of problem like if you want to use that universal healthcare you have
00:04:50.400 to wait for a long time we are short of family doctors etc there's a lot of
00:04:54.780 problem that's something we need to work on it we need to be more efficient maybe
00:04:59.820 we need to introduce some kind of competition or private sector but I think
00:05:04.980 the idea of universal healthcare itself is okay i would like to keep it and i don't think conservatives
00:05:10.580 are going to abroad abolish it right yeah yeah i'll stop again um so he's noting that there are
00:05:19.540 problems in the public health care that we have in canada right now he's noting that problem
00:05:25.380 but yet he wants that sort of like the reason that there is inefficiency and shortages and
00:05:32.980 And hugely long wait times in our healthcare system in Canada is because it is socialized,
00:05:40.660 because it is public. See, when you make something free, people are going to use it more,
00:05:46.000 even though they don't need to. When you have free healthcare, people are going to go to the
00:05:51.360 doctor even though they don't necessarily need to. And if they didn't have to go, if they had
00:05:56.700 like some minor ailment like a headache or a little like a cold they might just go to the
00:06:02.900 pharmacist and get an over counter drug but in a free health care you're gonna go to the doctor
00:06:09.220 just in case to make sure everything's fine and even though that is going to delay it and take
00:06:15.040 resources away from someone who really needs it that's what happens when you have public free
00:06:19.180 health care and that is not something you can take away from the system now I'm not advocating
00:06:26.280 that we go and just totally make everything privatized. Again, I think there needs to be
00:06:31.260 some amount of privatization and some amount of competition, like he said, but he's noting the
00:06:36.680 problem with our public health care, yet he wants that spread to other industries as well.
00:06:43.680 So maybe he doesn't understand why socialized industries fail, but they do fail and they're
00:06:50.980 always slower and I don't like the direction our health care system is going and it could be very
00:06:58.220 bad in the future but the fact that he wants that spread to other places is to me not conservative
00:07:04.480 at all. Should we be giving the government more control or is it better to remain as they are?
00:07:13.160 So first of all, in the future, I'm thinking of, because of the technology progress, I think the government finally kind of have the ability to manage, to manage like public owned corporation efficiently.
00:07:32.800 Because in the past century, I would say, socialism failed in the Soviet Union,
00:07:42.300 they failed in North Korea, etc.
00:07:44.800 Because the government don't have the efficiency compared to the private sector.
00:07:51.800 Maybe because of technology, maybe because of the nature of the history, I don't know.
00:07:58.800 But they failed.
00:07:59.800 I think in the future, maybe from AI or from other technology progress, the government could have more and more ability to affect the economy, to help the economy grow more healthier.
00:08:13.800 That's my thought.
00:08:14.800 But right now, I think I will vote conservative even though they support cut spending and tax revenue.
00:08:22.800 So, that's something in the near future, I would say last decades, sorry, next decades
00:08:30.440 or the next election, I will support conservatives.
00:08:33.540 But I do have an open-minded about maybe more government spending, more government-owned
00:08:41.200 corporations.
00:08:42.200 But do you think that government subsidies and government control of the market, do
00:08:47.680 you think that distorts the price signaling that the free market has as far as supply
00:08:52.600 in demand, and do you think it hurts competition to have government control like that?
00:08:58.840 Okay, so we do study economics, and so when we only study first-year economy, we'll say
00:09:06.040 free market, perfect competition is the best. But when we go to upper years, second year,
00:09:10.840 third years, we will learn about externalities, we will learn about government intervention,
00:09:20.120 somehow it's beneficial for the economy because it's a complicated case when we
00:09:25.560 are doing math about economy when we are in first year in university we'll think
00:09:30.260 free market is best but in the reality it's not if the government have strong
00:09:36.800 and strong control and have the price precisely calculating analyzing all
00:09:43.640 their skills and the expert to help them maybe they have the power to make the
00:09:50.260 economy grow better and healthier yeah so I think the government have the
00:09:55.820 ability to make the market healthier compared to a totally free market but
00:10:03.040 they need to do a good job if it if it do not have the fine if they do not have
00:10:11.080 precise control or they do not have their strong ability to help the 0.92
00:10:18.400 economy maybe it's even worse than the than the free market such as Soviet
00:10:23.680 Union so what he's saying is that the government if it has enough power can
00:10:29.020 direct the economy better than the economy can direct itself but at the
00:10:33.380 same time as he's saying that he's also recognizing that government directed
00:10:38.020 economies have failed in the past every time from North Korea and Soviet Union, as he mentioned,
00:10:44.580 but also Venezuela and Cuba and everywhere else failing economies because they're government
00:10:49.820 directed. And okay, so now we know that they have failed in the past and we have to analyze them to
00:10:58.960 see why they failed in the past. So to know if they could possibly succeed in the future, right?
00:11:05.040 So, now we have to look at the nature of government. Government does not have the profit motive or the price controls that the private sector and free market does. So, they don't have the incentive to get something done really, really quickly. And we can see that with bureaucracy. We can see that with our healthcare, that there is no incentive to be really, really quick. That's one of the things that's wrong with it.
00:11:27.000 So we don't have that incentive. And that is because there are humans involved. When someone
00:11:32.120 has the incentive to get something done quickly, they will. If they're going to get paid more,
00:11:37.240 or if the only way that they're going to succeed is to get things done quickly,
00:11:41.480 then they're going to get things done quickly. But government doesn't have that signal at all
00:11:47.000 whatsoever. So there's no incentive whatever for them to get something done quickly. That's why it
00:11:52.360 it takes forever to get a license and everything else, or forever to get surgery, because government
00:11:57.840 doesn't have the incentive to get things done quickly. And that is because there are people
00:12:02.380 involved, and that is just the nature of government. Now he's saying that somehow if we get AI involved
00:12:10.400 and somehow have this huge knowledge of the market and everything else, then we can have
00:12:16.120 socialist utopia, then we can have the government running everything. Okay, so the AI that he's
00:12:23.820 envisioning has this AI that we will create, this God in our own image, basically, that will be
00:12:30.380 perfect in every way and control our lives perfectly. It has to be perfect, this AI that
00:12:37.460 we create. It has to know every desire that we'll ever have. It has to know everything, every bit
00:12:45.680 of knowledge that humans know, and it has to be able to perfectly execute it. The only way for
00:12:52.280 this AI to work is it has to be all-knowing. So you have to create this sort of surveillance state.
00:12:58.680 If you want your AI to work, your perfect socialist utopia, you have to have a surveillance state,
00:13:04.620 which is something that they're actually trying to work on in China and other places,
00:13:08.060 to monitor every single bit of information out there, every single human being,
00:13:12.760 to control them. When you have this AI state, you're going to be controlling people. That is
00:13:21.200 the whole idea of directing the economy. So you're going to have a surveillance state and a huge
00:13:24.940 amount of control over your citizens in order for everything to work right, okay? And this AI is
00:13:30.560 going to have to know everything about you, from your likes to your dislikes, what you want. It's
00:13:35.960 going to have to be able to predict every single desire of every human being in order to be able
00:13:40.520 to supply everything at sufficient levels all the time. It's going to have to be all-knowing.
00:13:46.680 And that is kind of a scary thing. So it's going to have to be all-knowing and all-controlling.
00:13:51.220 That is his vision. Kind of scary. But what he's saying, like, and going back to a different point
00:14:00.000 and the reason that government actually can't control the economy, rightly, is because government
00:14:05.980 actually doesn't know everything. The knowledge that is necessary to run the economy, just like
00:14:12.640 let's just stick with Canada, the knowledge that's necessary to run the Canadian economy
00:14:17.040 isn't isolated in one group of people in Ottawa. It is spread into millions and millions of people,
00:14:24.800 like 40 million people all across our country, that each know a little bit of what is necessary
00:14:29.100 to get their expertise, their little bit of knowledge. They know exactly what they need to
00:14:34.460 know to carry that out. So the knowledge to run all of Canada is not isolated to just a few people
00:14:40.440 in Ottawa. It is in everyone in Canada. Like the people in Ottawa don't know the specifics necessary
00:14:47.000 to, I don't know, whatever bit of steel that's needed to make this particular implement that
00:14:52.560 goes into this particular car. They don't know all that information. They don't know the proper
00:14:58.280 engineering for, I don't know, a toothbrush or a pencil or something like that. That is not
00:15:02.480 something that the people in Ottawa know, but that was something that they would have to know
00:15:06.680 in order to run the economy correctly. And that is one of the reasons that government-run economies
00:15:13.300 have failed in the past, is because they don't know everything. They're not all-knowing. And in
00:15:20.560 order to run the economy, they would have to be all-knowing. And this is something that Thomas
00:15:25.400 Sowell would call consequential knowledge. It's the knowledge that's necessary to run life.
00:15:30.520 the people in Ottawa have academic knowledge. They know their chemistry and their physics and
00:15:36.520 everything else, but they don't know the consequential knowledge that's necessary to
00:15:40.100 farm and to do manufacturing and to be a carpenter and a plumber and everything else.
00:15:45.240 The people in those sectors have the knowledge necessary, not the ones in Ottawa. So that's why
00:15:51.020 government-run economies haven't worked in the past. Now, suppose we implement our AI dream.
00:15:57.240 Okay, we would need this AI to be perfect. This AI could not make mistakes. So basically we would
00:16:06.840 be training this AI on knowledge collected by imperfect people and programmed by imperfect
00:16:16.620 people. And we would have to expect it to be perfect. So this AI would have to be the first
00:16:23.200 thing that humans have ever created that's perfect and that will never fail. That has to be
00:16:31.960 what we create. And I don't think we can do it, guys. I don't think so. And if we were to do it,
00:16:42.080 all freedom would have to be evaporated instantly. So I'm rejecting the idea. I don't like it.
00:16:52.100 human beings are created to be free. For someone to be controlled by an AI that we would assume
00:16:59.140 has our best interests at heart, it's going to totally destroy freedom. People think that their
00:17:05.900 number one desire is to be happy, but actually our number one desire is to be free. That's why
00:17:12.000 people flooded into the United States when the border was open. That's why people are flooding 0.83
00:17:16.800 into canada because they want that freedom and and yes that freedom part of that freedom is the
00:17:22.560 freedom to pursue happiness but you need to have that freedom before you can actually pursue that
00:17:29.280 happiness that's why it was written in the declaration of the united states that they
00:17:33.040 should have that freedom to pursue happiness so that's why people come to north america that's
00:17:37.440 why they're that's why they're fleeing cuba on rafts that's why they're trying to dig tunnels
00:17:41.680 out of North Korea, because they want freedom. And that is yet another reason that socialist
00:17:49.400 and government-run economies don't work, because there are human beings involved. There just has
00:17:55.920 to be, okay? There has to be human beings involved, and each of us is created to be free.
00:18:01.620 Going back to another thing that he said, he's talking about how the government should have the
00:18:06.280 ability to run the economy, and that a government-directed economy would work better than just a free
00:18:10.860 market economy. Okay, so that idea actually goes back to the 1930s and not just to Marx, although
00:18:17.700 some of it started there, but it also came about by a man named John Maynard Keynes, the idea of
00:18:23.640 a government-directed economy. Keynes thought that if the government could somehow get in there
00:18:29.280 and subsidize and stimulate the economy, that things would be better and we would prevent all
00:18:35.520 this unemployment. So the idea was this huge amount of inflationary government spending,
00:18:40.900 but the inflation would not outweigh the benefit in the reduction of unemployment. That was the
00:18:46.840 idea. But, and it's like the whole foundation of Keynesian economics is this fun thing called
00:18:52.720 the Phillips curve, but it has been proven false. It has not worked. Government spending,
00:18:58.520 especially inflationary government spending, does not stimulate the economy like it should.
00:19:03.120 Basically, you're adding more dollars to the economy, but you're inflating the price of
00:19:08.500 everything. You're making everyone, you're making the dollars in the private sector
00:19:12.180 worthless. So as a result, the spending power is reduced and unemployment is basically not
00:19:18.620 affected. We see this huge amount of government spending now in Canada and unemployment has been
00:19:25.260 unaffected by this huge amount of government spending. And there are a lot of reasons for
00:19:31.020 this. Keynesian economics has not panned out, guys. It has not. So the things he's talking about,
00:19:36.580 the government getting involved and Keynesian economics, it has not panned out. Keynesian
00:19:40.820 economics did not pan out. It has resulted, the worst unemployment has resulted after this
00:19:47.220 inflationary government spending than ever was before. So certain institutions like the Federal
00:19:53.240 Reserve in the United States were created to prevent the Great Depression that people were
00:19:59.200 screaming we're screaming about and the federal reserve was one of those institutions that had
00:20:04.000 the power to stop this great depression but they did nothing and as a result then canteen economics
00:20:10.080 came about about okay we need to print a whole bunch of money we need to spend it as much as we
00:20:14.080 can make work projects get people working keep unemployment as low as possible and everything
00:20:19.760 will be fine and unemployment was basically untouched and we had worse unemployment after
00:20:24.800 this huge government intervention than we did before. So Keynesian economics did not pan out
00:20:29.920 in any way. And I'm surprised that it is still being taught in our universities, but this is
00:20:35.280 clear evidence that it is. And a lot of it comes down to the fact that inflationary spending just
00:20:43.120 does not stimulate the economy. It doesn't. Inflation is basically a tax. I know you've
00:20:49.920 heard this before but it's true what inflation does is when with the printing and the creation
00:20:56.000 of more bonds and the printing of money and quantitative easing in the government it takes
00:21:02.080 the share of money that's in the whole economy and it just puts a bigger percentage of that
00:21:07.680 share in the government's hands in government control but there's still not an increase in goods
00:21:13.920 So as a result, the amount of money is increased, but the amount of goods is not.
00:21:19.840 So the price of everything goes up and you don't have the accretion of jobs like you wanted.
00:21:25.480 Okay. Do you think it's scary, though, to hand the government this much control over our markets and over our lives,
00:21:32.860 that it could eventually lead to the rise of a dictator?
00:21:36.120 I don't think Canada has a problem right now.
00:21:38.520 I believe that the liberals are kind of bigger government, stronger government control, right?
00:21:48.780 And we have experienced the liberal government for 10 years already.
00:21:53.680 They do have a lot of stuff to criticize, but I don't think liberals are kind of doing anything
00:21:58.820 lead to dictatorship at all. Not at all, right? Even though...
00:22:03.160 Yeah, no, they didn't crack down on free speech.
00:22:05.460 They didn't attempt to imprison people for seven years for protesting the government and honking their horns.
00:22:11.720 They're not trying to implement free speech, anti-free speech laws, you know, Bill C-8, Bill C-9.
00:22:19.380 They're not cracking down on the internet or anything like that.
00:22:23.540 There's no possible tendency in the current government towards dictatorship whatsoever.
00:22:28.220 And there's no inclination at all that our current government is, you know, shifting towards certain global powers that might have dictatorial tendencies in them whatsoever.
00:22:43.680 You know, there's none of that.
00:22:48.020 Even though I criticize their progress, their government, but I don't think you can say Liberal Party is kind of dictatorship.
00:22:56.180 No, not at all.
00:22:56.760 And Conservative Party are going to spend less and take less economy resources from the people.
00:23:04.800 So if you don't afraid of a strong, big government from Liberal Party, neither the Conservatives' government.
00:23:11.260 Okay. Yeah, but do you think the way that the Liberal Party came to the COVID crisis and telling us to stay in our homes and telling us to get vaccinated and to wear masks, was that erring on the side of dictatorship?
00:23:25.300 Okay, so first of all, I think mask and vaccine are kind of useful.
00:23:34.380 So maybe the way they work is not very perfect.
00:23:40.620 But on my own side, I think we're a mask.
00:23:46.220 How vaccinated is something good.
00:23:48.480 Like, maybe we shouldn't force people about that.
00:23:51.700 But I don't think it's a negative thing.
00:23:55.300 So, for example, I have my own political view and idea.
00:24:05.800 Maybe it's not right to force those ideas to other people, but the Liberal Party do
00:24:11.840 a good job on the vaccinated and mask wearing already.
00:24:16.620 I would say maybe it's controversial of the way they do things, but the result, I don't
00:24:21.740 have any trouble with it.
00:24:24.520 think it's a negative thing but maybe the people are being hurt or people don't like masks or forced
00:24:30.920 vaccination may criticize the liberal government i respect their right to okay so he is admitting
00:24:39.880 that some people were hurt and it's true people died from the vaccines people have permanent
00:24:46.440 health effects as a result of the vaccine and it was not fully tested and there was really no
00:24:54.120 science behind like the six feet social distancing and there was no science behind the masks or
00:24:58.760 anything else and certainly no science behind the vaccine but we were forced to do this anyway
00:25:04.600 because our government claimed that they knew better than us and that we had no right whatsoever
00:25:12.920 to say hey i don't want to do this you know no principle whatsoever of someone being sovereign
00:25:19.080 of their over their own person or over their own speech and we saw when people would protest this
00:25:23.960 they were called unreasonable people with unacceptable views no no question whatsoever
00:25:30.600 of the fact that the government might actually actually be wrong or that the people actually
00:25:36.200 have the right to say what goes in their body there's so much hypocrisy on the political left
00:25:40.520 there's the women's movement of like my body my choice i can do whatever i want with my body 0.98
00:25:46.040 and but at the same time there is no choice whatsoever when it comes to vaccines and what 0.99
00:25:50.200 what you put in your body. So there's quite a bit of hypocrisy. And saying that forcing someone to
00:25:56.560 take an untested drug into their body is not an evidence of dictatorship, I kind of beg to differ.
00:26:02.800 People were hurt. And this is yet another example of the government not being wise enough, not being
00:26:10.140 all-knowing. And because they're not all-knowing, they shouldn't be all-powerful. The most, the
00:26:16.240 scariest possible thing in the world right now is immoral people with great power. To me, that is
00:26:25.060 the scariest thing, because the most abominable atrocities have been carried out by immoral
00:26:31.660 people with unlimited power. And as AI gets bigger and gets more powerful and takes more control,
00:26:39.800 the the worst possible atrocities could actually happen because we're not tying it to a more a
00:26:47.060 strong moral code yes so just to go back to the whole vaccine max mandates there was no science
00:26:54.300 behind it and it was just an arbitrary we're gonna force you to be six feet apart so to me yes that
00:27:02.280 wasn't evidence for a dictatorship um but yeah we'll just finish this off here this is my last
00:27:08.340 question to him I think free speech is very crucial I think the most important
00:27:19.720 reason that I choose Canada as my new home is because of the liberal
00:27:24.840 democracy system and freedom of speech but we do know there's boundaries about
00:27:31.000 free speech like we do not tolerant racism uh hate lies rumors etc but a healthy uh a healthy
00:27:41.560 and making sense freedom speech is essential for the society and i think that is one of the most
00:27:48.060 important thing uh that canada can be called a free country okay so that is a very canadian
00:27:57.600 a very Canadian response to what is free speech. And the fact that he says that rumors and
00:28:07.340 misinformation and lies should not be in free speech is a marker that he views individual
00:28:15.520 liberty way differently than the average conservative would. The average conservative
00:28:20.260 looks at the individual and the individual, their speech is their property. And as long as that
00:28:26.660 speech does not actually provoke violence towards someone else. That is acceptable speech. This is
00:28:33.300 what the founders of the United States thought, and this is kind of where I align as well, that
00:28:37.860 so long as your speech doesn't actually result in harm to someone else, it is not speech that
00:28:45.100 needs to be criminalized. That is acceptable speech in the theory of the American founding,
00:28:50.800 and the Canadian view of free speech is quite different. It's closer to his view.
00:28:56.660 that oh you have to be we have to force you to be nice and you can't say anything that will
00:29:00.180 emotionally hurt someone else whereas the american founding saw human individuals as
00:29:05.540 much tougher than we think of humans today and that that even if someone is mean to you you're
00:29:11.780 not going to go rage out at them and even if someone says something hurtful to you then you're
00:29:16.100 not going to go rage out at them that was the the whole idea of american founding and they also
00:29:20.660 coupled that with a moral and a religious people and that they knew that they were supposed to love
00:29:26.020 each other and to help each other and to not explicitly be like on purpose mean to each other.
00:29:32.720 It could happen by accident, but not on purpose. That was the American, that's like the dream of
00:29:37.760 liberty. And that is obviously not something that we have in Canada. But yeah, I'll just,
00:29:43.940 again, I will go back to the fact that he really doesn't think of conservatism the way a conservative
00:29:49.620 would. And the only reason that he is voting conservative is because he thinks the
00:29:55.680 conservatives will do better with the economy, but he doesn't really like their fiscal policy
00:29:59.800 at all. And this is kind of scary that he is an Asian immigrant. I don't know if he's Chinese, 1.00
00:30:05.300 but clearly some of these ideas as far as socialism, perhaps they originated in his
00:30:10.680 former country, but he's certainly getting a lot of socialist ideas put into his head. And
00:30:16.520 one thing I will note is that he is actually, from the sounds of just listening to him,
00:30:21.460 it wasn't so much socialism that he was advocating for, it was a government-directed economy,
00:30:28.480 kind of like what they have in China. And I will note, a lot of people do not understand fascism
00:30:35.180 nowadays, but the one country that I can think of now that operates very close to a fascist system
00:30:40.760 is China. China is, yes, their system of government is closer to fascism than it is to socialism,
00:30:50.060 because they have this sort of idea of private enterprise and private property rights,
00:30:55.200 but not really. That private enterprise has to comply with the government directive.
00:31:01.700 And that is basically what fascism is, a hyper-nationalistic, anti-democratic,
00:31:06.980 authoritarian state with some amount of private property, but everything must comply with the
00:31:13.080 vision of the state. So that kind of sounds like what he's saying. And to be honest, real fascism
00:31:20.620 as they have in China is kind of a scary thing. And it also does mean that our governments,
00:31:27.860 our current government is actually growing closer to an actual fascist state, not to one that is
00:31:34.340 being labeled as such. So that is a scary note. And I'm going to leave it on that. Thank you so
00:31:39.840 much for watching. That'll do it for me. I am Sarah. Please like, subscribe, and comment.
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