Valuetainment - August 19, 2025


“100 Hours With Epstein” - Michael Wolff's OPENS UP On Recorded Convos & Steve Bannon's Secret Tapes


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10 minutes

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1,561

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113

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In this episode, Alex Blumberg talks about Jeffrey Epstein's secret audio recordings and why the FBI and DOJ should have access to them. Alex also discusses the possibility that the FBI may have a secret recording of Jeffrey Epstein that could be used against the DOJ and FBI.

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00:00:00.000 With the 100 hours that you have, is there anything in there?
00:00:06.060 Like, let's just say I'm an interested buyer.
00:00:08.040 I would be interested in buying the 100 hours that you have.
00:00:10.580 I would be interested in buying Bannon's 15, 16 hours that he has, right?
00:00:15.140 I would be interested in both of them.
00:00:18.460 Let me just add about Bannon's, what the hours that Bannon has is that Bannon,
00:00:25.700 I wouldn't buy them from Bannon if I were you because Bannon does not own them.
00:00:30.600 Oh, who owns them?
00:00:31.880 I didn't know that.
00:00:33.220 Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein paid for those tapes that Bannon did.
00:00:38.440 Wow, so the trust owns it?
00:00:41.040 Yes.
00:00:41.700 Oh, yes, the estate owns it.
00:00:43.260 The estate owns it.
00:00:44.000 So, wow.
00:00:44.600 Okay, so that's a new fact.
00:00:46.820 I didn't know the fact that that recording is not.
00:00:49.500 So Bannon couldn't sell it if he tried.
00:00:51.120 So if he wanted to do a documentary, he would never be able to use those hours in a documentary.
00:00:55.420 Yes, and again, let me stress that although Steve, who I am personally fond of,
00:01:03.360 but Steve's cover here that he was making a documentary about Epstein is 100% not true.
00:01:12.080 I know this because I was there and I'm fully aware and actually have it on tape of what transpired here.
00:01:22.220 And that was Bannon's effort to help Epstein with his legal problems.
00:01:28.960 And this would be in 2019 when the law was closing in on Epstein and Bannon's suggestion was that Epstein go on national TV to try to perform a mea culpa or explain or humanize himself in some way.
00:01:50.320 And then Bannon offered to help prepare him.
00:01:54.300 So essentially what Bannon was doing was media training.
00:01:58.740 He was tutoring Epstein in how to face a hostile interview on a hypothetical 60 minutes.
00:02:09.560 Got it.
00:02:09.900 So more of a training, a PR than anything else.
00:02:13.660 So let's talk about your 100 hours that you have with him.
00:02:16.020 How much information is in there that it's bombshell, you know, earth-shattering type of information where the public should know about out of the 100 hours you have with him?
00:02:29.340 Well, you know, it's a funny aspect of this.
00:02:34.460 And, you know, people call me up now, you know, people of significant standing and say, is there, you know, on the tapes, does Epstein promise Trump young girls?
00:02:51.160 Or does Epstein promise Bannon younger?
00:02:56.020 It's that kind of thing.
00:02:57.500 And I kind of say, you know, I don't know, you know, you've obviously never done interviews with people.
00:03:06.920 I mean, when they ask that kind of thing.
00:03:08.660 You know, these conversations unfold over a long period of, over a long period, and these are conversations like life itself.
00:03:23.500 Epstein is talking about his life.
00:03:26.520 There's lots and lots of details.
00:03:29.180 There's lots of information that would be surprising.
00:03:33.020 I suppose there are, you know, the Daily Mail could go through this and pull out a thousand headlines that would seem headline worthy.
00:03:47.280 When you listen to these tapes or when you were present, as I was, during these things, you don't have that feeling.
00:03:56.960 You have the feeling that this is incredibly interesting, fascinating, and it exposes a life.
00:04:07.400 So what you get is a life rather than headlines.
00:04:11.940 Although, as I say, I'm sure you could go through this and pull out the sound bites, which would then add up to headlines.
00:04:21.360 Would the FBI or the DOJ benefit from having access to these hundred hours?
00:04:26.960 Well, benefit for what purpose, since Jeffrey Epstein is already dead?
00:04:35.060 No, not necessarily.
00:04:36.460 We know he's already dead.
00:04:37.600 Just to gather more intel.
00:04:40.340 Would the FBI or the DOJ, if they're trying to get to the bottom of this, would they get anything?
00:04:45.400 Well, I think it's a question of what they're trying to get to the bottom of.
00:04:49.920 If they are trying to get to the bottom of who Jeffrey Epstein was, about the real nature of Jeffrey Epstein's personality, about Jeffrey Epstein's, not only his weaknesses, but his strengths.
00:05:05.160 If the FBI and the DOJ were biographers, as I am, they would find it interesting.
00:05:16.440 Since they are not biographers, I think that they would probably be less interested than certainly I am.
00:05:27.080 The FBI's job, you know, different than CIA, CIA is international, foreign, FBI is domestic.
00:05:34.920 Their job is to make sure, you know, families in America are going to be safe, Americans are going to be safe.
00:05:39.700 So anybody that's tied to this or to even eliminate or address a future next Epstein, they would probably benefit from studying the patterns of how this guy communicates.
00:05:49.500 And if that's the case, has the FBI, has the Department of Justice, have they at all reached out to you since you've had these for six years, whether it's under Biden or Obama, Biden or Trump, to say, hey, Michael, we think we need access to this recording that you have?
00:06:04.860 No, they haven't.
00:06:06.320 And they probably haven't for a lot of reasons.
00:06:08.700 First, I'm a journalist and a writer.
00:06:10.860 Therefore, therefore, that becomes a complicated, a complicated thing.
00:06:16.100 I mean, you know, Epstein was a source for what I was what I was doing.
00:06:20.780 So I think that they understand the difficulties there.
00:06:24.500 And then I also think they're probably unclear on what they probably have no goals.
00:06:29.080 There is probably no open investigation of Jeffrey Epstein and, of course, to what point he is dead.
00:06:39.860 And there's no, there's no, to my knowledge, open investigation of anyone else involved with Jeffrey Epstein.
00:06:48.380 Galen is obviously, has obviously been, that's been convicted.
00:06:57.080 I mean, she's been convicted.
00:06:57.920 Right, right.
00:06:58.220 She's in jail and is now headed toward a pardon. 0.99
00:07:01.480 So I don't think that there is, that there is any, any issue there.
00:07:06.540 So again, crossing these disciplines of, of, of someone who has been interested in, someone has material that, that, that reflects the full life of this, of this man.
00:07:23.820 And then the, the FBI and the DOJ, who are not interested in the full life of this man, they're interested in only their, from their, their highly segmented view of any given person.
00:07:41.040 Yeah, but not even a doorknock, right?
00:07:42.440 You've not even gotten a doorknock on them.
00:07:43.980 Hey, Michael, can we see this?
00:07:45.500 You've had nothing.
00:07:46.200 No email, no doorknock, no text, no phone call.
00:07:49.140 Nope.
00:07:49.920 Okay.
00:07:50.160 And if you were to sell it to an interested party, what would be the range of your asking price?
00:07:55.460 Well, I, I, I wouldn't sell it.
00:07:56.760 It's not, it's not for sale.
00:07:57.960 Okay.
00:07:58.320 So you're not selling it.
00:07:59.380 I got it.
00:07:59.800 No, I, I'm not a, I'm, you know, I'm not a, no, I'm a writer.
00:08:03.920 So this is a story that, that I think is worth telling as a writer.
00:08:12.100 It's a story that, um, you know, I, I mean, it's a, it's a pretty interesting story for me.
00:08:17.940 And so, um, so how I tell it and when I tell it, you know, is a kind of a organic and natural
00:08:25.380 process, but, um, um, I don't know why I got the impression that you were open to selling it and
00:08:32.120 you, you said some people reached out or they didn't, or you were surprised.
00:08:36.920 No, no, no, no, no.
00:08:37.440 I mean, I have spoken to many, many outlets and, and, you know, but it is about telling
00:08:44.640 this story.
00:08:46.340 Um, it is not about, I, I would never sell this.
00:08:49.700 I would never, um, you know, this is, this is, and this is an important aspect of being
00:08:56.320 a writer and a journalist.
00:08:58.640 This is my story.
00:09:00.960 Makes sense.
00:09:01.340 It's not anyone else's story.
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