Valuetainment - November 12, 2025


"45% On SNAP" - Piers Morgan CALLS OUT Afghanistan, Somalia & Iraq Welfare Dependence


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

203.1096

Word Count

2,543

Sentence Count

179

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

12


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the impact immigrants from war-torn countries have on the U.S. food stamp system, and why they should be prioritized over other immigrants from other countries. Plus, we debate whether or not immigrants should be allowed to work in the United States.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So if we look at immigrants that come to America, what percentage of them are on SNAP the most?
00:00:06.000 Have you seen this chart?
00:00:06.900 No.
00:00:07.380 Can you pull up this chart, Rob?
00:00:10.340 Statistics are going to show it to you.
00:00:11.900 So if you look at stats on what percentage of SNAP in America, what communities are taking advantage of it the most?
00:00:19.480 Rob, I think we send it in Twitter in a group text where it breaks down who uses it the most and who doesn't use it the most.
00:00:28.620 And stats will tell you.
00:00:30.280 Guess what?
00:00:31.520 You'll be able to look at that and say, okay, these communities, if it's Armenian, if it's Assyrian, if it's Persian, if it's this, I want to know about it.
00:00:38.940 And then from there, you have to sit there and say, when people come here from XYZ country, they make America a great place.
00:00:46.380 Let's get some more of them.
00:00:47.660 When people come here from XYZ countries, they don't make the place a better place.
00:00:52.380 Well, let's do something about it as well.
00:00:54.180 Did you find it, Rob?
00:00:55.280 I'm looking right now.
00:00:56.100 Hey, Umberto, can you guys send the chart?
00:00:58.460 I think you know which one I'm talking about, that breaks down exactly the SNAP benefits.
00:01:04.920 You will see in America, so while the government shutdown took place, food stamps by ethnicity.
00:01:11.480 45.6% of immigrants from Afghanistan are on SNAP.
00:01:16.800 42.4% from Somalia.
00:01:18.840 35% from Iraq.
00:01:21.060 Then it's Dominican, Caribbean, native, Puerto Rican, Cuban.
00:01:23.740 So if I look at this number here, keep going all the way down, Rob, keep going all the way down, all the way down, all the way down, all the way down.
00:01:29.400 Okay, so then what do you see?
00:01:30.860 Indians, 4.4%.
00:01:32.560 Why are Indians not our SNAP?
00:01:34.700 Indians are not Christians.
00:01:36.000 I don't care what the religion is.
00:01:37.820 Okay?
00:01:38.120 I'm not sitting here saying, well, you know, but if you go all the way to the top and you look at SNAP,
00:01:42.320 why, so why are we inviting more from Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq?
00:01:48.400 I mean, I need to study this in more depth, but certainly the Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, I mean, these are people, I imagine, predominantly who have fled war-torn countries.
00:01:59.320 So they, by definition, when they come to America, you're going to be in poverty.
00:02:02.780 Yeah, but, you know, when America was founded, it's about getting the best to come over here, right?
00:02:07.080 Like you run a business, you have one of the top shows, and when it comes on to debate, you're running the number one show in the world when it comes on to debate.
00:02:13.580 I don't think anybody is doing a better job than you when it comes on to the debate shows.
00:02:17.880 But you would sit there and you would say, all right, can we look at the last 100 hires that we made?
00:02:24.320 Yes.
00:02:25.480 What school did they come from?
00:02:27.880 Okay, and we'll see a pattern.
00:02:30.260 Who has been here that has the highest retention risk?
00:02:32.440 And they'll say, University of Florida, their tenure with our company is 3.8 years.
00:02:38.200 You know, Florida State is seven months.
00:02:41.140 I'm just making stuff up.
00:02:42.300 FIU is 1.1.
00:02:44.180 You know, such and such is.
00:02:46.260 And, like, guys, no more recruiting from FIU.
00:02:49.700 I don't know the people at FIU.
00:02:51.260 I don't know the people from Florida State.
00:02:53.100 All I see is the tenure.
00:02:54.340 When they come in, they're contributing to society in a positive way.
00:02:58.120 I think from that standpoint, you have to consider who it's coming in.
00:03:01.700 I don't care if you're Muslim, Christian, you know, Jehovah, Seventh-day Jew.
00:03:05.320 But let me ask you a difficult question.
00:03:06.940 So you fled your family from a war-torn place.
00:03:10.820 Yes, we did.
00:03:11.220 Right?
00:03:11.800 So take Iraq, for example.
00:03:13.940 I, when I was editor of the Daily Mirror in the UK, I opposed the Iraq war before, during, and after it.
00:03:19.740 It cost me my job in the end.
00:03:20.940 Yeah.
00:03:21.440 After 10 years running the newspaper.
00:03:23.260 But I think I was vindicated by what happened afterwards.
00:03:26.900 That war was fought on a false pretext.
00:03:29.500 Saddam Hussein, a weapons of mass destruction.
00:03:31.660 They never found them.
00:03:32.560 And also there was this kind of subliminal, we need to respond to 9-11.
00:03:37.620 We can take out Saddam.
00:03:39.100 I never saw that connection.
00:03:40.700 It seemed to me completely wrong.
00:03:42.660 Much more arguable to go after where bin Laden and his people were in Afghanistan.
00:03:46.780 So I look at Iraqis, right, who were displaced by a war, which many people, including me, would say was an illegal war in their country that caused utter devastation.
00:03:57.900 And they come to someone like the United States, which has been the home for people like that ever since its inception and is lauded around the world for that, for being a place that you can come to, right, from places like that.
00:04:10.720 But is there not a particular duty of care?
00:04:14.380 Maybe you don't think there is, but is there not a duty of care to people who come from a war-torn place like Iraq, where the United States, along with the UK and other countries, wage that war, in my view, completely wrongly, in a way that caused their displacement, caused them to lose their homes, maybe lose their loved ones.
00:04:33.060 And they come here for a better life.
00:04:34.840 But when they get here, they have nothing.
00:04:36.760 Now, that may explain some of those numbers.
00:04:38.840 I don't know.
00:04:39.500 But certainly in that case, you've got to think, well, OK, if they're the ones who are getting the SNAP benefits, OK, what is the correlation between the ones who were displaced because of the actions of the United States and the UK and the other allies that fought the Iraq war on their presence here in the United States?
00:04:57.080 And is there a duty of care towards them?
00:04:58.620 I don't think we should lose in the mix of all this a compassion towards genuine asylum seekers, particularly from countries ravaged by wars, which we may have been complicit.
00:05:09.500 In starting, in my opinion, on a false pretext.
00:05:14.180 Yeah, I think that is a—I would sit there again.
00:05:18.040 I would sit there and I would say, if we're looking at anybody that's coming in, if we caused some of this, let's see what we can do about it.
00:05:26.560 Now, of course, somebody in America could say, well, you caused all of it, right?
00:05:30.540 Right.
00:05:30.700 OK, no problem.
00:05:31.940 But if you're coming to America and you hate America, I have no tolerance for you.
00:05:37.760 I agree with that.
00:05:38.560 If you come to America and you don't want to give anything back to the company, I have a country, I have a hard time with you being here.
00:05:45.000 I agree.
00:05:45.380 To me, you know what it's like?
00:05:46.500 When I came here, I served the Army.
00:05:49.220 I've worked since the day I came to America, even when I was selling hats and shirts when I was 13, 14 years old.
00:05:54.460 I love everything about this country, America, for me.
00:05:57.880 And I think what ends up happening is when you're in a family and—was your father rich?
00:06:03.340 Do you come from a wealthy family?
00:06:04.740 No, no, not at all.
00:06:05.320 And I would add, my brother was a British Army colonel in the Iraq War, right, fighting on the front lines.
00:06:10.380 Your brother was?
00:06:11.060 My brother was.
00:06:11.460 So it's not like I didn't have a vested interest.
00:06:13.460 You know, half my family had been British Army.
00:06:15.020 But you know where I'm going.
00:06:15.560 Here's kind of where I'm going.
00:06:16.540 Your kids, your four kids, you have money.
00:06:19.320 When something happens, your money is going to go to your kids, right?
00:06:22.320 Now, are you going to give it equally if one of them says, I hate my dad.
00:06:27.460 He's the worst dad in the world.
00:06:29.160 No.
00:06:29.820 You're not going to give it to him.
00:06:30.780 No, and I agree with you about people who come here and then vocally hate Americans.
00:06:33.920 That's the problem, though, Pierce.
00:06:35.160 So the problem ends up happening is—
00:06:36.680 That's a separate problem to the one I'm articulating.
00:06:38.400 But what I'm saying is the filtering, to me it's the filtering.
00:06:43.280 Yes.
00:06:43.340 Because if I see—if we do want—and by the way, the argument, some people in America are like,
00:06:48.460 look, we don't want anybody else to come in here.
00:06:49.960 This is plenty, right?
00:06:50.780 There are people that I've had on the podcast that wouldn't even want me to be here right now.
00:06:54.000 They're like, you know, you got lucky getting in here, which is their argument.
00:06:57.540 They have the right to have that argument.
00:06:58.220 How wrong is that argument?
00:06:59.900 I will tell you, like, I'm having this conversation.
00:07:03.700 I got four kids.
00:07:04.380 I'd like to have 20 kids, right?
00:07:05.600 So I flirt with my kids the other day.
00:07:07.260 This was about six months ago.
00:07:08.920 I said, so it's 50-50 jokes.
00:07:10.940 It's not 100% of a joke.
00:07:12.120 So I said, hey, guys, what do you guys think about surrogate?
00:07:13.880 If Daddy wanted to go with Mommy and we have a surrogate, we have five girls that are going
00:07:17.640 to have a surrogate, and you guys are going to have five siblings.
00:07:20.860 My youngest son looks at me, tell me what surrogate is.
00:07:25.280 I think I know what it is.
00:07:26.940 I said, well, it's Mommy and Daddy.
00:07:28.560 It's really our kid, but somebody carries for nine months.
00:07:32.020 I don't want any of that.
00:07:33.740 I said, why not?
00:07:34.340 I don't want any of that because it's not in Mommy's belly.
00:07:37.780 We were on the Mommy's belly.
00:07:39.340 I want someone that's in Mommy's belly.
00:07:40.700 If you guys want to make another kid, it has to be Mommy's belly, right?
00:07:43.600 The level of pride this kid has to be in a bed, David, that the mommy gave birth to the
00:07:49.080 kid.
00:07:49.400 I actually understand it and respect it.
00:07:52.380 You understand what I'm saying?
00:07:53.220 Of course.
00:07:53.540 I respect it.
00:07:54.140 So if somebody's born in America and they're kind of like, look, man, yeah, maybe we got
00:07:58.500 lucky with you, Pat, but we got a lot of ones that came through and we didn't get
00:08:02.380 lucky with that, hate America, to me, when I think about guys like Churchill you're talking
00:08:07.420 about or Trump we're talking about, you know, I cannot believe what he's doing with ICE
00:08:10.420 and, you know, he single-handedly closed up the border, crime is gone.
00:08:14.080 Even Kamala Harris said we got the border wrong and they did a better job of it.
00:08:17.580 I think there's a little bit of a flirting with tolerance and just looking the other way
00:08:23.300 where, you know, when I talk, anytime I have somebody here from UK that I'm talking
00:08:27.500 about UK stats, UK government doesn't give any stats.
00:08:30.760 You guys can't even study what's working, what's not working.
00:08:33.560 It's like a secret.
00:08:34.660 No, because if you guys knew it, with so much more of the crime, who is doing the crime,
00:08:38.280 at least in America, we can sit there and look at, is black-on-black crime the most?
00:08:42.300 Is it white-on-white crime?
00:08:43.180 Is it white-on-black?
00:08:44.020 Is it black-on-white?
00:08:45.000 What is it?
00:08:45.780 Percentage, not based on numbers because, of course, there's more whites living here.
00:08:49.100 Oh, shoot, we'll show it.
00:08:51.060 Even though it goes against what the Democratic Party wants to see, no, we don't want to talk
00:08:55.120 about that because of fatherless communities.
00:08:57.300 We need some stats.
00:08:58.060 So I think if you looked at the stats and the data, and it shows that any of the immigrants
00:09:03.520 are coming from a certain country who assimilate, love the country, don't want any entitlement
00:09:07.920 programs, they create businesses, they create jobs, they make it safer, let's get more.
00:09:12.440 If not, listen, keep it where it's at.
00:09:14.680 To me, that's where it stops.
00:09:16.400 Well, listen, I don't disagree with the ideology behind that.
00:09:19.960 I mean, you should only want people who are going to come and contribute to society.
00:09:23.260 I would add the caveat of the Iraq caveat, which is if you go and bomb a country and
00:09:29.280 you destroy people's lives, I do think a country like the United States, most prosperous country
00:09:33.860 in the world, does have a duty of care to bring some of those people into its country,
00:09:38.040 as it has done with the Iraqi community.
00:09:40.280 What if that's a royal screw up on another administration that you never agreed with
00:09:45.460 them?
00:09:45.580 Because Trump doesn't agree with Bush.
00:09:46.900 And remember, if there's any guy that has moral authority to say, I never supported
00:09:51.820 that war, it's the guy that bought a full page ad, I think it was in USA Today.
00:09:55.420 Remember that one thing that he did back in the days?
00:09:57.400 It's like, I am not for this war, right?
00:10:00.160 So maybe he's saying, I didn't do that.
00:10:02.820 Bush did that.
00:10:03.520 That wasn't my doing.
00:10:04.380 I'm changing it.
00:10:05.080 We're going to do a different approach with it.
00:10:07.160 Well, the good thing under Trump is that clearly and unusually for a Republican president
00:10:10.920 of modern times, he is a man who prefers peace to war.
00:10:14.120 I mean, he shows that with his actions first in his first term and what he's done now.
00:10:18.520 I mean, now, I mean, this idea, the debate about whether he gets a Nobel Peace Prize,
00:10:22.180 Barack Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for two fancy speeches, eight months into his first
00:10:26.040 tenure.
00:10:26.580 I mean, absolutely insane.
00:10:28.360 The idea Trump wouldn't get one for simply getting the hostages released, never mind
00:10:32.400 anything else.
00:10:33.220 You want to know the craziest thing about Barack Obama's Nobel Peace Prize?
00:10:36.440 You ready?
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00:10:39.420 So you know how we always say eight months into being president, eight months into being president,
00:10:44.120 do you know to win a Nobel Peace Prize, they have to nominate you before January 31st?
00:10:50.740 It's 11 days.
00:10:51.760 11 days into it.
00:10:53.540 That's ridiculous.
00:10:54.720 That's ridiculous.
00:10:55.100 That means someone did it the day you inaugurated.
00:10:58.480 I know.
00:10:58.860 That's the right there.
00:10:59.940 The deadline for Nobel Peace Prize nomination is January 31st.
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