Valuetainment - December 24, 2025


“72 Virgins Is IN The Quran” - Imam Of Peace PRESSED On Islam’s Most CONTROVERSIAL Promise


Episode Stats

Length

13 minutes

Words per Minute

157.2111

Word Count

2,106

Sentence Count

1

Misogynist Sentences

1

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 there's 72 virgins when i die yes okay so 72 virgins is real that's in in islam it's in the
00:00:06.580 it's in the uh the the the concept that's a little weird the concept of it is in the quran yeah um
00:00:12.680 but uh again uh allow me to unpack please so when you read these things in the quran please patrick
00:00:21.380 please let's not forget the type of community these statements were being issued to we're not
00:00:28.880 talking about oxford graduates or harvard graduates this was a primitive society in need of guidance
00:00:36.800 and therefore in their mentality there are certain things they considered to be worthwhile and
00:00:44.300 rewards and unfortunately one of them again is women right so the word 70 in islam and in arabic
00:00:53.300 tradition in arabic literature in general means a lot it does not mean exactly 72 you know you'll
00:01:01.040 have preachers again i'm speaking about preachers uh preachers who say every one of these virgins comes
00:01:08.700 with a hundred maids so we're not going to stop counting and every maid has a has a secondary maid
00:01:14.280 so what is this you know uh at the end of the day there is a a solid abrahamic tradition that is
00:01:22.320 focused on purity and piety and then you have the development of a religion and there are conversations
00:01:29.500 between the um the religious hierarchy and the adherence of that religion we have traditions for
00:01:38.620 example where our prophet was sitting down and people would come and ask him the same question
00:01:44.840 and he would answer in a different way he wouldn't misguide people but he would give the same answer
00:01:52.540 in a different way and the companions would say why would you answer them differently he says because
00:01:58.780 the first one was a farmer if i give him examples using trees and and fruits he would understand
00:02:04.680 and the second guy was a businessman if i speak to him in real estate he'll understand better it's
00:02:10.500 more about being relatable so number one the idea of 72 virgins is not a pillar in islam meaning that
00:02:18.800 if you don't believe in it you cannot be a full muslim no it is there in the quran part of a
00:02:23.900 conversation between the religion and the develop and and the developing society with a reminder
00:02:29.820 that you're talking about a society patrick can i just uh ask my brother here can you just uh go to
00:02:37.220 the uh go to google patrick firstly i i should have said this first i congratulate you on on your
00:02:45.680 clarity really i haven't done podcasts in america for seven years maybe eight years yes i don't i
00:02:51.640 why is that i get invites seven eight years i can open my phone and show you the type of people
00:02:56.780 right but uh if i don't listen to a podcast myself and i don't respect the interviewer i don't when i
00:03:05.520 listen to you on other uh shows i'll get to you now when i listen to you interviewing other people
00:03:10.080 you know when you're listening to someone and and in your mind you have something to say about it
00:03:15.040 you're that guy you always say exactly what i'm thinking uh and i congratulate your clarity on on
00:03:21.320 many of these issues but please this is good i want to continue uh go there and put a quranic verse
00:03:29.480 uh enter the home from its door
00:03:34.700 okay click click on that that go down there's a first link right sort of baghara 189
00:03:44.580 wait okay there we go chapter 2 verse 189 you want to highlight that please the second sentence
00:03:54.740 okay do you see that patrick uh i'm going to go to the end of that verse there righteousness is not
00:04:00.960 in entering your your houses from the back doors rather righteousness is to be mindful of allah
00:04:07.780 so enter your homes through their proper doors patrick tell me why is it that archangel gabriel
00:04:16.480 this is again i'm speaking about the islamic tradition archangel gabriel who carried each and every
00:04:23.060 one of these verses down onto the prophet muhammad and in the quran we are told when revelation comes
00:04:28.680 down the prophet his temperature goes up right it's something heavy that's being bestowed upon him
00:04:35.400 he's receiving a message from god he begins to sweat he's in fear now the prophet has to go through
00:04:42.560 that entire process for then a verse to tell him please tell your guys tell the believers
00:04:49.040 he's speaking to the muslims the new the first muslim community in mecca enter your home from the front
00:04:57.580 door what were you doing like what were you doing do you see that's the level of intellect
00:05:04.080 we need to be mindful of these are people who were not accustomed to anything logical that you and i
00:05:12.740 have you know but you know when you meet someone basic common sense and basic logic that does not
00:05:18.140 exist and you can't expect it from someone who buries his daughter alive you can't someone who thinks
00:05:25.000 burying daughters alive is a shame that's the level of mentality our prophet had to deal with
00:05:30.220 patrick jesus christ came to a civilization he came to a civilization where there were romans
00:05:37.160 and the jewish civilization alone is huge that's why he didn't have to go through what our prophet went
00:05:43.080 through our prophet was dealing with people who don't get it the struggle was real i'm telling you
00:05:48.880 you're not dealing with a single situation this is the type of people he has to tell them when you go
00:05:53.820 home please use the front door like revelation needs to take place because they were digging
00:05:59.160 holes from the back of their homes and entering from the back after completing pilgrimage
00:06:03.280 but why would you have a front door if you don't use it you're saying the the the the following of
00:06:09.960 prophet muhammad during the time that he was and where he was there wasn't a level of advancement so
00:06:15.460 it was a higher level of naivete with the people versus jesus came to a place where there was
00:06:19.440 already an established society is that what you're saying beautifully said okay so then then help me
00:06:26.380 correlate those two together because one would say that's even a bigger opportunity to manipulate
00:06:34.640 and deceive and persuade a more naive audience than you would a more educated audience which would be
00:06:42.120 tougher to do so no but they had their own traditions and they had they had their own gods as i said
00:06:46.980 they worshiped their own idols they had everything in place there was a functioning tribal society
00:06:52.820 who were they who were they idolizing before uh prophet muhammad uh the idols allat wal uzza do you want
00:06:59.220 to pull that up just put the the idol of lat lat uzla uzra al uzza uzza yeah no no lat with with a t yep and uzza
00:07:12.420 u double u double u double u double z double z double z double z no no u zz a yeah yeah there you go al uzza
00:07:29.260 he's one of the three chief goddess of raven religion pre-islamic then she was worshiped by the pre-islamic
00:07:38.340 arabs and the allat and manat a stone cube of nakla near mecca was held sacred as part of her call
00:07:45.240 she mentioned in quran 53 19 as being one of the goddess whom people worship so he comes in he comes
00:07:51.440 in a time where the level of naivete is high but prior to that they had some traditions just like
00:07:57.460 abraham abraham had to deal with the nimrod and the idol worshiping but uh keep that go back to that
00:08:04.020 wikipedia page please um i want you to click on right there where your mouse is you see pre-islamic
00:08:10.060 click on that okay that is the chief arabian tribe that ruled mecca it's called quranish and our prophet
00:08:20.500 was from quranish so he came not only to a society he was rebelling against his own people they were the
00:08:30.280 establishment you see that so many people think that our prophet came against jews and christians
00:08:37.300 that's tribal alliances we'll get to later on but the establishment itself was the prophet's family
00:08:43.420 the so-called conquest of mecca where the prophet came in and took mecca he was simply coming back home
00:08:51.140 so by law if the chiefs of by tribal law by international law if the owners of the land submit to you
00:08:58.720 and by tribal law and islamically all laws submit that the prophet entering mecca without a single drop of
00:09:06.760 blood being shed right he took over mecca so he came back home he's from quranish he came to guide quranish
00:09:14.660 and quranish opposed them and tried to murder him so upon return what he did was without spilling a
00:09:22.000 single drop of blood he entered mecca which is today the holiest site for muslims and there are reasons
00:09:29.440 why mecca is is the holiest site for muslims it's it's not just the location where god placed his home i don't know
00:09:37.740 if if we're aware of that uh can you just click on mecca the first line right there beautiful okay click on that
00:09:43.620 black cube there the picture so we muslims believe that adam our father adam the father of humanity
00:09:50.740 because again muslims believe there were humans before adam so he was a prophet prophet to who there
00:09:58.100 must have been a nation that he came to guide uh the point is the prophet adam so we refer to him as
00:10:04.740 prophet adam uh came to arabia and and created the base for this kaaba for the house of god
00:10:12.720 and then abraham came and built it and ever since then it has undergone renovations so floods would
00:10:21.340 take place for example the flood of noah we believe and then there's this uh theological question as to
00:10:27.360 why the flood of noah would even disrupt the structure of the kaaba and that's because it was full of idols
00:10:33.580 at the time it wasn't uh the the as sacred as it is after it was be it was purified by uh the prophet so
00:10:40.920 this was full of idols inside it were idols where that door is above it and around it we're full of idols
00:10:47.000 so i think we came down a different path but going back i still want you to know the prophet came to an
00:10:56.680 established community that had amazing poets had mathematicians but when we say ignorant they were
00:11:03.280 ignorant of things to do with religion with god and they were firm in their belief of idols and they
00:11:09.240 had some terrible terrible traditions such as burying their women alive and to be honest when you said
00:11:15.940 what's the the issue that you uh struggle with a lot in islam i thought you were going to ask me about
00:11:21.320 the wife beating verse i really thought so but then you took it another path but um we can discuss that
00:11:28.060 too but when it comes to the community please keep in mind the community was not
00:11:34.660 a highly developed community at the time okay so what what happens if by the way just so you know
00:11:41.600 for me um you know sometimes people see and they're wondering what patrick's an islamophobic is this is
00:11:47.820 that my chef that's been with my family for three years who's with us in our house is a muslim chef
00:11:54.500 from turkey and he still is a muslim he's not converted to christianity he's a muslim himself
00:11:59.480 he cooks for us uh i had an assistant guy named hutan who was a muslim who was with me for one year
00:12:05.480 one of the nicest guys i met in my life but then i got hundreds of stories on the other side as well
00:12:10.260 of what happened uh uh that i personally witnessed so i want you to know i've met many many peaceful
00:12:17.220 people like you who are muslim who are incredible human beings to have dinner with have conversations
00:12:23.780 with and uh a major respect to those guys this is not a blanket statement on everybody a part of my
00:12:30.820 challenge is trying to see if the two can coexist because if you can't coexist then don't force it
00:12:38.300 to coexist let them individually build their own societies and see what can happen if you enjoy this
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