“72 Virgins Is IN The Quran” - Imam Of Peace PRESSED On Islam’s Most CONTROVERSIAL Promise
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In this episode, we discuss the concept of the 72 virgins in the Qur'an, and why it is not a pillar in Islam, and the role of women in the Islamic tradition. The Quranic verse "Enter the home from its front door, and enter it from its door" is not about entering your homes from the back doors, but from the front doors.
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there's 72 virgins when i die yes okay so 72 virgins is real that's in in islam it's in the
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it's in the uh the the the concept that's a little weird the concept of it is in the quran yeah um
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but uh again uh allow me to unpack please so when you read these things in the quran please patrick
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please let's not forget the type of community these statements were being issued to we're not
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talking about oxford graduates or harvard graduates this was a primitive society in need of guidance
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and therefore in their mentality there are certain things they considered to be worthwhile and
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rewards and unfortunately one of them again is women right so the word 70 in islam and in arabic
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tradition in arabic literature in general means a lot it does not mean exactly 72 you know you'll
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have preachers again i'm speaking about preachers uh preachers who say every one of these virgins comes
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with a hundred maids so we're not going to stop counting and every maid has a has a secondary maid
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so what is this you know uh at the end of the day there is a a solid abrahamic tradition that is
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focused on purity and piety and then you have the development of a religion and there are conversations
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between the um the religious hierarchy and the adherence of that religion we have traditions for
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example where our prophet was sitting down and people would come and ask him the same question
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and he would answer in a different way he wouldn't misguide people but he would give the same answer
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in a different way and the companions would say why would you answer them differently he says because
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the first one was a farmer if i give him examples using trees and and fruits he would understand
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and the second guy was a businessman if i speak to him in real estate he'll understand better it's
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more about being relatable so number one the idea of 72 virgins is not a pillar in islam meaning that
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if you don't believe in it you cannot be a full muslim no it is there in the quran part of a
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conversation between the religion and the develop and and the developing society with a reminder
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that you're talking about a society patrick can i just uh ask my brother here can you just uh go to
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the uh go to google patrick firstly i i should have said this first i congratulate you on on your
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clarity really i haven't done podcasts in america for seven years maybe eight years yes i don't i
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why is that i get invites seven eight years i can open my phone and show you the type of people
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right but uh if i don't listen to a podcast myself and i don't respect the interviewer i don't when i
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listen to you on other uh shows i'll get to you now when i listen to you interviewing other people
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you know when you're listening to someone and and in your mind you have something to say about it
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you're that guy you always say exactly what i'm thinking uh and i congratulate your clarity on on
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many of these issues but please this is good i want to continue uh go there and put a quranic verse
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okay click click on that that go down there's a first link right sort of baghara 189
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wait okay there we go chapter 2 verse 189 you want to highlight that please the second sentence
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okay do you see that patrick uh i'm going to go to the end of that verse there righteousness is not
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in entering your your houses from the back doors rather righteousness is to be mindful of allah
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so enter your homes through their proper doors patrick tell me why is it that archangel gabriel
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this is again i'm speaking about the islamic tradition archangel gabriel who carried each and every
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one of these verses down onto the prophet muhammad and in the quran we are told when revelation comes
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down the prophet his temperature goes up right it's something heavy that's being bestowed upon him
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he's receiving a message from god he begins to sweat he's in fear now the prophet has to go through
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that entire process for then a verse to tell him please tell your guys tell the believers
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he's speaking to the muslims the new the first muslim community in mecca enter your home from the front
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door what were you doing like what were you doing do you see that's the level of intellect
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we need to be mindful of these are people who were not accustomed to anything logical that you and i
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have you know but you know when you meet someone basic common sense and basic logic that does not
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exist and you can't expect it from someone who buries his daughter alive you can't someone who thinks
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burying daughters alive is a shame that's the level of mentality our prophet had to deal with
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patrick jesus christ came to a civilization he came to a civilization where there were romans
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and the jewish civilization alone is huge that's why he didn't have to go through what our prophet went
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through our prophet was dealing with people who don't get it the struggle was real i'm telling you
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you're not dealing with a single situation this is the type of people he has to tell them when you go
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home please use the front door like revelation needs to take place because they were digging
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holes from the back of their homes and entering from the back after completing pilgrimage
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but why would you have a front door if you don't use it you're saying the the the the following of
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prophet muhammad during the time that he was and where he was there wasn't a level of advancement so
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it was a higher level of naivete with the people versus jesus came to a place where there was
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already an established society is that what you're saying beautifully said okay so then then help me
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correlate those two together because one would say that's even a bigger opportunity to manipulate
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and deceive and persuade a more naive audience than you would a more educated audience which would be
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tougher to do so no but they had their own traditions and they had they had their own gods as i said
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they worshiped their own idols they had everything in place there was a functioning tribal society
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who were they who were they idolizing before uh prophet muhammad uh the idols allat wal uzza do you want
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to pull that up just put the the idol of lat lat uzla uzra al uzza uzza yeah no no lat with with a t yep and uzza
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u double u double u double u double z double z double z double z no no u zz a yeah yeah there you go al uzza
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he's one of the three chief goddess of raven religion pre-islamic then she was worshiped by the pre-islamic
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arabs and the allat and manat a stone cube of nakla near mecca was held sacred as part of her call
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she mentioned in quran 53 19 as being one of the goddess whom people worship so he comes in he comes
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in a time where the level of naivete is high but prior to that they had some traditions just like
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abraham abraham had to deal with the nimrod and the idol worshiping but uh keep that go back to that
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wikipedia page please um i want you to click on right there where your mouse is you see pre-islamic
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click on that okay that is the chief arabian tribe that ruled mecca it's called quranish and our prophet
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was from quranish so he came not only to a society he was rebelling against his own people they were the
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establishment you see that so many people think that our prophet came against jews and christians
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that's tribal alliances we'll get to later on but the establishment itself was the prophet's family
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the so-called conquest of mecca where the prophet came in and took mecca he was simply coming back home
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so by law if the chiefs of by tribal law by international law if the owners of the land submit to you
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and by tribal law and islamically all laws submit that the prophet entering mecca without a single drop of
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blood being shed right he took over mecca so he came back home he's from quranish he came to guide quranish
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and quranish opposed them and tried to murder him so upon return what he did was without spilling a
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single drop of blood he entered mecca which is today the holiest site for muslims and there are reasons
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why mecca is is the holiest site for muslims it's it's not just the location where god placed his home i don't know
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if if we're aware of that uh can you just click on mecca the first line right there beautiful okay click on that
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black cube there the picture so we muslims believe that adam our father adam the father of humanity
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because again muslims believe there were humans before adam so he was a prophet prophet to who there
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must have been a nation that he came to guide uh the point is the prophet adam so we refer to him as
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prophet adam uh came to arabia and and created the base for this kaaba for the house of god
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and then abraham came and built it and ever since then it has undergone renovations so floods would
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take place for example the flood of noah we believe and then there's this uh theological question as to
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why the flood of noah would even disrupt the structure of the kaaba and that's because it was full of idols
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at the time it wasn't uh the the as sacred as it is after it was be it was purified by uh the prophet so
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this was full of idols inside it were idols where that door is above it and around it we're full of idols
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so i think we came down a different path but going back i still want you to know the prophet came to an
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established community that had amazing poets had mathematicians but when we say ignorant they were
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ignorant of things to do with religion with god and they were firm in their belief of idols and they
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had some terrible terrible traditions such as burying their women alive and to be honest when you said
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what's the the issue that you uh struggle with a lot in islam i thought you were going to ask me about
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the wife beating verse i really thought so but then you took it another path but um we can discuss that
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too but when it comes to the community please keep in mind the community was not
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a highly developed community at the time okay so what what happens if by the way just so you know
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for me um you know sometimes people see and they're wondering what patrick's an islamophobic is this is
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that my chef that's been with my family for three years who's with us in our house is a muslim chef
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from turkey and he still is a muslim he's not converted to christianity he's a muslim himself
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he cooks for us uh i had an assistant guy named hutan who was a muslim who was with me for one year
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one of the nicest guys i met in my life but then i got hundreds of stories on the other side as well
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of what happened uh uh that i personally witnessed so i want you to know i've met many many peaceful
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people like you who are muslim who are incredible human beings to have dinner with have conversations
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with and uh a major respect to those guys this is not a blanket statement on everybody a part of my
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challenge is trying to see if the two can coexist because if you can't coexist then don't force it
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to coexist let them individually build their own societies and see what can happen if you enjoy this
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