Valuetainment - May 14, 2025


＂A New Pearl Harbor＂ – 9⧸11 Insider CLAIMS Secret Commission WARNED U.S. Before Attacks


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Rob and Sarah talk about the strange facts in the 9/11 Commission report, and why it doesn t mention the Gilmore Commission. Plus, a story about the disappearance of $2.3 trillion in Pentagon funds the day before September 11th.

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00:00:00.000 So I went on chat, GBT, and I asked the question.
00:00:01.720 I said, tell me the strange facts in the 9-11 Commission that we all know about.
00:00:05.500 Strange facts that they had in this big-ass 9-11 Commission that they had.
00:00:09.460 I give you the $15 million versus $30 million.
00:00:11.600 $15 million they spent on 9-11, even though 2,977 people died
00:00:17.260 and ended up costing us $8 trillion.
00:00:19.500 Monica Lewinsky, $30 million.
00:00:20.640 Well, they don't mention the Gilmore Commission at all.
00:00:22.620 Do you know what the Gilmore Commission is?
00:00:23.560 Tell me about it.
00:00:24.740 After the 93 attack, and I was up at the Trade Center,
00:00:27.820 and I got a call from Mario Cuomo thanking me for my work,
00:00:31.420 I wrote the legislation creating the Gilmore Commission.
00:00:34.780 Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore chaired the Gilmore Commission.
00:00:38.040 Jim's a man of integrity.
00:00:39.300 Ray Downey was on the commission.
00:00:41.040 The Gilmore Commission wrote five reports, five reports before 9-11.
00:00:46.540 Those reports were the bulk of the recommendations made by the 9-11 Commission
00:00:50.420 after the fact.
00:00:52.100 The 9-11 Commission doesn't even talk about the Gilmore Commission.
00:00:55.660 That was before 9-11.
00:00:57.240 This is the one that was presented to Clinton, Bush, and Bolton.
00:01:00.420 Rob, can you pull up that one story from ABC News?
00:01:03.160 I wrote the legislation.
00:01:03.180 I wrote it.
00:01:04.100 Do you know the article from ABC News that we have?
00:01:06.180 Yes.
00:01:06.520 Have you guys seen this one here, which is kind of a,
00:01:09.400 like if you wanted to create an instance to go to war,
00:01:15.360 they wrote the playbook of what to do to go to war
00:01:18.600 because the other argument is what?
00:01:20.740 $8 trillion, $2.3 million in Afghanistan, $2.3 million in Iraq,
00:01:24.640 and don't forget when, who was it that told us they're missing $2.3 trillion in Pentagon's money?
00:01:30.580 Don Rumsfeld said that.
00:01:31.680 So it's so funny that 2.3 is Iraq, 2.3 is Afghanistan,
00:01:35.060 and he says 2.3 trillion is missing.
00:01:37.380 Those, you know, the, you know, those three numbers shouldn't be matching that correctly.
00:01:42.260 This is it, Rob?
00:01:42.860 This is Donald Rumsfeld talking about the missing $2.3 trillion the day before 9-11 on September 10th.
00:01:48.900 And the fact that they can fail and die is what provides the incentive to survive.
00:01:59.020 But governments can't die.
00:02:01.940 So we need to find other incentives for bureaucracy to adapt and improve.
00:02:07.580 The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector.
00:02:13.900 But not ours, not fully, not yet.
00:02:16.880 Rob, can you go straight to the 2.3?
00:02:18.300 We are, as they say, from floor to floor in this building
00:02:22.960 because it's stored on dozens of $3 trillion.
00:02:27.480 A little bit back.
00:02:28.400 Estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions.
00:02:32.580 Kind of weird to say that, right?
00:02:33.700 But going back to the Gilmore, the Gilmore Commission, Rob, that ABC story, do you have that?
00:02:38.200 Yes.
00:02:38.600 So this is, this is a, were 1998 memos a blueprint for a war?
00:02:43.920 This is ABC News.
00:02:45.220 I don't know if you've seen this or not.
00:02:46.300 This is an article written in 03.
00:02:48.740 And March 10, years before George W. Bush entered the White House
00:02:52.140 and years before September 11 attacks set the direction of its presidency,
00:02:55.660 a group of influential neoconservatives hatched a plan to get Saddam Hussein out of power.
00:02:59.520 The group's project of the New American Century, or PNAC, was founded in 97.
00:03:04.540 Among its supporters were three Republican officials who were sitting in and out,
00:03:08.320 sitting out with President Bill Clinton, Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, and Paul Wolfitz
00:03:12.720 in an open letter to Clinton.
00:03:15.020 The GOP congressional letter, the next year, the group called for the removal of Saddam Hussein regime from power
00:03:22.040 and a shift towards a more assertive U.S. policy in the Middle East,
00:03:25.320 including the use of force, if necessary, to unseat Saddam and in rapport just before 2000 election
00:03:31.000 that would bring Bush to power.
00:03:32.800 The group predicted that the shift would come about slowly unless there were some catastrophic
00:03:37.080 and catalyzing events like Pearl Harbor, like a new Pearl Harbor.
00:03:42.760 This is ABC News.
00:03:43.660 Go a little bit lower, Rob.
00:03:45.320 This, that event on 9-11.
00:03:47.260 By that time, Cheney was vice president.
00:03:49.180 Rumsfeld was secretary of defense.
00:03:50.500 And Wolfitz was the deputy of Pentagon.
00:03:52.860 The next morning before it was clear who was behind the attacks,
00:03:55.400 Rumsfeld insisted that a cabinet meeting with Saddam Iraq should be a principal target
00:03:59.020 of the first round of terrorism, according to Bob Woodward's books, da-da-da-da-da.
00:04:01.960 And you know the rest.
00:04:02.880 So let me add something to that comment.
00:04:04.780 But that wasn't a Gilmore Commission.
00:04:06.160 Those are two separate things.
00:04:07.020 Totally, totally, totally.
00:04:08.440 Nothing to do with each other.
00:04:09.400 But January of 2001, the options for us to go after Al-Qaeda is briefed to the chairman
00:04:17.240 of the Joint Chiefs, Hugh Shelton.
00:04:19.500 That is to say, the culmination of our work is briefed to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs.
00:04:25.320 We are directed to stand down in January, right as Bush, the Bush team comes in.
00:04:30.760 When Bush comes in, the Able Danger Project is stood down.
00:04:37.400 Right when Bush comes in, the Able Danger Project is put down.
00:04:40.300 That's right.
00:04:40.720 So now you're saying something that he's going to dispute.
00:04:44.200 No, I'm going to say there's data, and Eric, I think, will confirm this.
00:04:48.880 Because the data removal in Garland that you talked about earlier was, I think, partly caused
00:04:56.200 by the fact that when John Hamry went down at my request to get a view of what they were
00:05:01.680 doing, John Hamry tasked them to run a special profile of Chinese acquisition of our technology.
00:05:10.040 Am I right or wrong, Eric?
00:05:11.400 Yes, that was before Able Danger.
00:05:13.940 So they did a run for the deputy director of defense, and that information, now listen carefully,
00:05:23.620 came up with the names of Condoleezza Rice and several other prominent American leaders.
00:05:30.340 Am I right or wrong?
00:05:31.060 Yes.
00:05:32.320 When that came up, Washington's beltway shook, because here was the Able Danger team coming 0.94
00:05:39.460 up with data in their data mining system regarding China that American officials had helped steer
00:05:46.880 the Chinese to acquire our technology.
00:05:50.560 Dan Burton, the chairman of the Oversight Committee, issued subpoenas.
00:05:55.200 That's when they told Eric to destroy all the data.
00:05:58.120 Am I right, Eric?
00:05:58.900 No, that was a different effort.
00:06:00.800 That was, we had, he had subpoenaed it, so we had to make copies of it and send it to
00:06:05.320 Capitol Hill.
00:06:05.920 Well, it wasn't, but the rest of it, you destroyed, I guess.
00:06:08.520 But the, yeah, then in November is when the Able Danger started.
00:06:12.400 It was in March, spring the next year that we were given the cease and desist.
00:06:17.280 And while that was going on, when you collect information about U.S. persons, even if it's
00:06:21.560 incidental, which is the tools, you know, you don't, you know, you can't read two and
00:06:24.820 a half terabytes first with data with the human eye in that time.
00:06:28.200 So 90 days hits, we're required to delete all that.
00:06:30.780 And since we were given a cease and desist order, the clock's still ticking, the 90 days
00:06:36.060 hit.
00:06:36.300 I had a lawyer come down from my command and says, all right, here's your day, delete the
00:06:40.380 data or go to jail.
00:06:42.020 And I had to sit with one of my warrant officers.
00:06:44.160 We had a deep moral discussion on, should we hide some of it?
00:06:47.000 Should we just put some on a removable hard drive and hide it in a file cabinet?
00:06:50.960 And we ended up deleting all of it.
00:06:52.560 And that's, that's about the worst day you could ever spend in the military, knowing
00:06:57.600 now in hindsight that, you know, you're now the guy that could have prevented 9-11.
00:07:03.520 But there was also some sensitive data and names that came up in the work that you had
00:07:07.040 done for John Henry.
00:07:10.160 So here's the issue.
00:07:11.100 And this is, I'll give you an example for what we did when the FBI came down, we're
00:07:14.960 talking to him about the able dangers.
00:07:16.380 We gave them a car dealership in Morocco that was used as a front organization. 0.76
00:07:22.040 And so we gave them, you know, here's a car dealership was, you know, the FBI, we had
00:07:26.620 some FBI agents that showed up.
00:07:28.100 They said, we want to dealership in Morocco.
00:07:29.920 Right.
00:07:30.260 So it was just, you know, the front was the business, but in the back, we were, we knew
00:07:34.360 the people that were associated with were funneling information.
00:07:36.700 And the first question the bureau asked is, or the agents there is like, well, where'd
00:07:40.020 you find this?
00:07:41.040 And what we showed them was, well, here's the hit that we got on unclassified information.
00:07:46.880 And it was this really wild Michigan militia conspiracy theorist website.
00:07:51.860 That said, you know, the, the FBI is trying to arm the KGB in Northern Michigan and take
00:07:57.040 over upper peninsula.
00:07:58.600 Chelsea Clinton's real father is Webster Hubble.
00:08:00.460 And then there's this car dealership used as a front organization.
00:08:03.480 And so, you know, this is what I mean by raw.
00:08:05.840 That's in it?
00:08:06.720 It's all, it was all on the same page.
00:08:08.000 Seriously, like who Chelsea Clinton's real father comes out?
00:08:10.340 Yes.
00:08:10.860 The story we've all read about.
00:08:12.280 The webpage that the tool hit had this on the page.
00:08:16.460 And so we're showing this to the bureau and this is all, this is what I mean.
00:08:19.220 The difference between raw intelligence versus what comes out of an agency, which has to
00:08:23.680 be peer reviewed and edited and screened and then produced into a very slick product.
00:08:28.700 We were feeding raw information out to, you know, Congress and Weldon out to Paycom out
00:08:35.080 to all these organizations.
00:08:35.760 Who filters it out to get credibility?
00:08:37.240 What's that?
00:08:37.600 Who filters out the raw, open source to get credibility?
00:08:40.680 I had my own, I mean, I had a small shop of 24 analysts.
00:08:43.220 So we were doing it on a very small level, but it wasn't the, you know, the size of,
00:08:47.380 you know, we're not the 40,000 people that work at NSA or whatever.
00:08:51.460 So we got 24 people working in the second floor basement of this organization.
00:08:55.260 So the bureau looks at this and says, you guys are a bunch of cracks.
00:08:58.500 Even though we were able to show additional information that corroborated it and show them
00:09:03.960 right there, it didn't matter.
00:09:05.320 It was the fact that we, you know, you just squandered your credibility.
00:09:07.600 Because what you saw as the tip off came out.
00:09:11.240 So, so did you end up finding out if Hubble is the real father?
00:09:14.780 You know what?
00:09:16.240 Yeah, I don't even, we didn't, we don't, we don't touch, we didn't even touch that stuff.
00:09:20.100 That was, and again, that's the problem is when you go after stuff.
00:09:23.040 After the Patriot Act, everything's on the table.
00:09:25.200 Yeah, so, so, so, so, so, but, but going back to it again, so here's what I just did.
00:09:30.320 I went online and I said, what was Dick Cheney's net worth before 9-11?
00:09:34.060 Okay.
00:09:34.580 $19 million.
00:09:35.180 What was Rumsfeld's net worth before 9-11?
00:09:38.300 $50 million.
00:09:39.200 I don't know what it is today, but when you think about the financial motivation, Dick
00:09:43.460 Cheney, Halliburton ties, he was a CEO of it from 1995 to 2000.
00:09:48.080 On the ton of shares, had a lot of shares in a blind trust that he couldn't sell while he
00:09:53.020 was serving, but he did sell it afterwards.
00:09:54.940 How much money was made?
00:09:55.980 I'm sure a lot.
00:09:56.800 Yeah, millions, right?
00:09:57.600 And then when you go look at Donald Rumsfeld ties, you see the ties that he has, served
00:10:02.140 on boards of major companies, ABB, a defense contractor, Gill Scientist, a pharmaceutical
00:10:06.280 company with government ties, and a Rand Corporation, which is a defense think tank, right?
00:10:11.660 And you see how that money is made.
00:10:13.000 Do you want a Cheney story?
00:10:13.940 Go for it.
00:10:14.460 I took the first delegation, bipartisan, to Libya in 25 years to support George Bush
00:10:20.320 when he said that Gaddafi wanted to give up his weapons.
00:10:23.280 I took three Democrats and two other Republicans, and the White House tried to stop me.
00:10:28.720 I was going to visit the troops in Iraq, but we got a plane, and we went to Tripoli for
00:10:32.280 two days.
00:10:33.600 Our meeting with Gaddafi was always at the end, and I met with him three times. 0.88
00:10:36.880 But on that first trip, they took us out to this man-made reservoir where Gaddafi had 0.70
00:10:41.140 built this water system of pure water for the people in the desert.
00:10:44.780 That's me.
00:10:45.800 I was printing an American flag on him after I gave the speech to the entire country.
00:10:50.320 Joe Biden came with me on that trip.
00:10:51.980 He was with me, with me.
00:10:54.000 It wasn't his trip.
00:10:54.760 It was my trip.
00:10:56.080 So they showed us this man-made water system, and I said, the pipe was like 14 feet high.
00:11:04.120 I said, how did you build that pipe?
00:11:05.460 You've been under sanctions for 25 years.
00:11:08.120 Oh, Congressman, we didn't build that pipe.
00:11:11.620 Well, who did you buy it from?
00:11:12.640 You've been under sanctions by the U.S. and Europe for at least the last two decades.
00:11:16.660 Did you buy it from Russia?
00:11:17.680 No.
00:11:18.400 Did you buy it from China?
00:11:19.400 No.
00:11:19.820 Well, who did you buy it from?
00:11:21.860 We bought it from a company called Halliburton.
00:11:23.900 You understand what I'm saying?
00:11:28.060 They bought it from Halliburton while they were under sanctions by the U.S. and while Dick
00:11:32.800 Cheney was a leader of Halliburton.
00:11:34.540 I served with Dick Cheney in the House.
00:11:37.140 What was he like?
00:11:37.740 Well, all I'm telling you is I'm disgusted with what I found out about Dick Cheney by
00:11:41.760 now.
00:11:42.380 And for him to come out and say anything about Donald Trump is an absolute disgusting joke.
00:11:47.040 Look at all the money he has.
00:11:49.040 And his daughter ought to go out and talk about that.
00:11:51.420 Just like he canceled the V-22 for the Marine Corps.
00:11:54.180 I led the fight to save that at Platform, which is why I was so close, because Al Gray came
00:11:58.680 to me, the commandant of the Marine Corps.
00:12:00.420 And General Jim Jones had me flying the first V-22 with him when we delivered to the Pentagon
00:12:05.860 because I was the leader to save it, along with Carl Levin from Illinois, a Democrat.
00:12:10.980 These people that make money behind the scenes off of decisions that kill U.S. troops and kill
00:12:16.740 U.S. firefighters are disgusting. 0.99
00:12:19.220 And somebody's got to stand up and say enough's enough.
00:12:21.680 Let's take back control of our country.
00:12:23.940 And again, I'm not saying a blanket thing about all intel.
00:12:27.100 I'm saying it about the people who are out for themselves.
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