Valuetainment - ＂A Patriotic Duty To Stop You＂ - Britain's Deep State Playbook For KILLING Reform

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00:00:30.000 Go specifically to you, Kate.

00:00:31.960 Well, I haven't spent much time in it.

00:00:33.280 What I really don't understand.

00:00:35.520 You were heavily involved.

00:00:36.600 You were there with Cameron.

00:00:37.680 So you saw the invasion when it was coming in.

00:00:40.360 It went from 1.6 million to 2.7 million.

00:00:44.420 Because I think Cameron went and went.

00:00:46.000 2010?

00:00:46.660 2010, exactly.

00:00:47.400 2010.

00:00:47.820 And then it skyrocketed.

00:00:49.240 So what patterns did you see?

00:00:51.200 What mistakes did you see they were making?

00:00:53.120 Is it just too tolerant?

00:00:53.760 So this is where we really fell out.

00:00:55.360 Because we, I was very much part of the senior advisor.

00:01:00.600 I was the guy.

00:01:03.180 Everything is smaller and more of a shoestring in British politics.

00:01:07.400 So there's not much money there.

00:01:08.760 And I basically did a number of jobs, the strategy, policy, communications, the whole thing.

00:01:14.180 And we had a commitment, I think I'm getting this right, in going into that 2010 election.

00:01:20.300 this was his

00:01:22.060 he particularly

00:01:23.360 it was his idea actually

00:01:27.660 to say this, make this commitment

00:01:29.560 net migration into the UK

00:01:31.240 to bring it under 100,000 a year

00:01:33.560 that was the pledge that

00:01:35.760 we made

00:01:37.220 and it was David Cameron's idea

00:01:38.860 I think that's right

00:01:40.000 net migration under 100,000 a year

00:01:43.780 and one of the main reasons

00:01:45.940 that we

00:01:47.140 there we are, never achieved the pledge

00:01:49.240 yeah yeah hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands so one of the reasons that that was

00:01:59.040 never met and it was very clearly explained to me we had a policy you know this was a policy

00:02:04.360 commitment so of course you're there once once he became prime minister you're in 10 downing street

00:02:08.120 you're really focused on delivering your promises one of the things we kept looking why you know we

00:02:14.580 said this is it happening making you know checking on progress on this particular one i remember a

00:02:20.540 meeting where the officials the bureaucrats came in and said look basically said you're never going

00:02:26.060 to achieve this target as long as you're in the eu impossible because of the free migration rules

00:02:32.560 within the eu never going to be delivered it's one of the reasons that i was in favor of brexit

00:02:37.900 that's when we really fell out i'd left the uk by then we moved here in 2012

00:02:43.040 brexit was a 2016 that was one of the main reasons because he'd made this commitment and

00:02:50.700 his own government officials said you can't meet this commitment as long as britain remains in the

00:02:56.180 now the really crazy thing which i just don't understand i haven't i wasn't there 2016 brexit

00:03:03.220 was voted on. A few years

00:03:05.260 later, three years later,

00:03:07.380 finally they did the deal. They left

00:03:09.040 under Boris Johnson eventually.

00:03:11.320 But it seems to me that immigration just went

00:03:13.280 up.

00:03:15.080 The central argument

00:03:16.620 of the Brexit campaign...

00:03:18.380 It was a failure. Massive.

00:03:20.720 The first stage of failure was

00:03:23.400 when the

00:03:25.240 UK was part of the EU.

00:03:26.960 It was a failure.

00:03:28.780 And the government officials

00:03:30.300 really looking at the issue of immigration

00:03:32.620 and said, you're never going to meet the target as long as you're in the EU.

00:03:38.760 Then the UK left the EU.

00:03:41.500 Brexit.

00:03:43.280 And the main argument, I mean, there's lots of arguments for Brexit,

00:03:46.160 but if you really ask people who are involved there and whatever,

00:03:49.240 the biggest one was immigration, controlling our borders.

00:03:53.040 That was really, if there's one thing that Brexit was about, it was that.

00:03:57.660 And yet, since Brexit, I think it's accelerated.

00:04:02.220 Keir Starmer yesterday tweeted saying,

00:04:03.920 our net migration is the lowest it's been in years.

00:04:06.140 I don't know if you saw that.

00:04:07.060 I didn't see that.

00:04:07.660 He tweeted yesterday saying,

00:04:08.560 our net migration has been the lowest in years

00:04:10.900 and we've still got some work to do.

00:04:12.940 Go right there.

00:04:13.640 Four hours ago, Rob?

00:04:15.900 Yeah, net migration has fallen 82% in the last five years. 0.99

00:04:19.760 I promise you to restore the control of our borders.

00:04:22.160 My government is delivering.

00:04:23.280 I know there's more to do.

00:04:24.200 We're introducing scale-based migration systems

00:04:26.160 that rewards contribution and ends our resilience

00:04:28.940 on cheap overseas workers.

00:04:30.200 That's exactly what the conservatives used to say.

00:04:32.860 I mean, that exact message.

00:04:34.660 But they didn't deliver it.

00:04:36.180 Johnson, they had those prime ministers that lasted about five minutes.

00:04:40.020 You've been in a space of knowing you want to get things done,

00:04:43.740 and it's hard to go through the gridlock of...

00:04:46.000 Yes, and this is one of the things...

00:04:47.620 How do you do that then in California?

00:04:49.140 Because I've seen how it works.

00:04:50.620 I mean, I'll give you a specific story that really opened my eyes.

00:04:54.680 I mean, it's a silly story, but it kind of showed me.

00:04:57.580 so one of the projects that i led um initiated and led was we called it the red tape challenge

00:05:05.060 or something like that to reduce bureaucracy in the uk this is going back must have been

00:05:10.980 when was it 2010 you know around that the first i was only there for two years um

00:05:15.920 there we are so i'm saying look at that it's our ancient history but there we are steve hilton was

00:05:22.560 the primary architect of the red tape challenge right so the the idea was to it's actually the

00:05:28.560 technical term for it now you would you would say is reverse sunsetting where we all know about

00:05:33.560 sunsetting regulations you pass something you say this only lasts for five years unless we renew it

00:05:38.460 it expires i wanted to have a concept of reverse sunsetting where we just take the whole stock

00:05:43.460 of regulations that are on the books and change the default so instead of saying we're going to

00:05:48.280 get rid of this one and get rid of that you basically say we're going to get rid of all of

00:05:51.120 it let's choose the regulations that we want to keep that was the concept um i remember we had

00:05:58.040 input from the public we crowdsourced some stuff whatever and then we started having the meetings

00:06:03.060 with the official the bureaucrats and the civil servants and we divided up the whole regulatory

00:06:08.320 code into different sections like about 29 different categories the first set that we

00:06:14.600 looked at consumer protection i remember we had this big meeting they all come in the room

00:06:19.580 dozens of different government officials leading the different bits of the relevant departments

00:06:28.620 and there's a lot of paperwork on you go through the packet and i remember i just went i just

00:06:34.060 didn't want to just go in order i went into the middle picked something at random and it was

00:06:39.060 color coded and i can't remember which way around red green and most was one color and i said oh

00:06:46.900 that's great so that's what we're getting rid of no no that's what we have to keep okay that's not

00:06:51.960 the point of this exercise but still let's look at one of these it was men's pajamas just randomly

00:06:57.720 i just what why do we have to keep that whatever there's the guy around the table who was head of

00:07:04.860 the whatever apparel division we have a 40 minute discussion about the regulations on men's pajamas

00:07:12.280 stop it and then at the end this is i'm not making up he says wow i don't want to mock the voice he

00:07:20.660 said if anything the public interest demands that we level up regulations from a gender equality

00:07:28.260 perspective because the regulations for women's pajamas are actually lower than for you just think

00:07:33.340 i can't believe it we spent 40 minutes talking about one thing out of thousands and it's at that

00:07:38.900 point i realized you can't do it this way you'll never beat them at that kind of game of process

00:07:45.820 and paperwork because they are better at how do you beat there's more of them they wait you out

00:07:51.040 and i'll tell you another story that fits with this before the 2010 election when we uh came

00:07:57.340 into before david camber became prime minister you know london's a small town everyone's very

00:08:03.020 centralized everyone knows each other and we had a lot of friends overlapping with the former labor

00:08:07.520 government of tony blair tony blair who really was a reformer um and we ended up having a meeting

00:08:15.960 a couple of months before the election myself and tony blair and he said this incredibly

00:08:21.960 interesting thing and he'd been out of power for seven years by then i think or something like that

00:08:26.020 maybe a bit less and he said look there's just one thing you need to understand

00:08:30.540 all these senior officials around you number they're very smart very good people but

00:08:37.060 you've got to understand that they believe that it is their patriotic duty to stop you from doing

00:08:46.160 whatever you want to do because they see themselves as the guardians of the national interest yeah and 0.99

00:08:53.360 and their job is to stop these idiot here today gone tomorrow politicians from doing their thing 0.99

00:08:58.360 so you've got to understand this i didn't understand that till too late and putting those 0.99

00:09:04.260 two things together and looking at california today the only answer actually is to massively

00:09:12.480 reduce the size of these bureaus and just because if there's fewer people doing less there's less

00:09:19.780 capacity easier said than done i mean the doge idea was an idea that everybody supported until

00:09:24.560 they try to implement and then they stopped it four or five months later in california you've

00:09:28.020 got a couple of things first of all it's in a sense more manageable because it's you can get

00:09:34.640 your arms around it to a certain extent some would even say it's harder because you got 43 to 9 on

00:09:39.400 represent like how are you going to pass them when they got control on the majority but the

00:09:42.580 governor sets the budget okay right that's the first that's the main policy making vehicle who

00:09:47.260 do you need to approve the budget the legislature you work with the legislature you have a line item

00:09:52.420 veto yes they can overturn a two-thirds majority yeah i know but let you write the budget you

00:09:58.120 submit the budget that's the first move a lot of that will be right at the beginning in january

00:10:02.540 next year um yes you negotiate of course but let me just get to the point that um

00:10:08.960 you want you run the executive branch you run these agencies you appoint people to them

00:10:15.420 and you can direct their work through executive orders it's true that a lot of it is set up

00:10:21.500 through legislation. You can't just delete

00:10:23.660 legislation you don't like.

00:10:25.300 But actually, when you look at some of these bureaucracies,

00:10:28.180 that's why you've got to do the preparation

00:10:29.460 work. Many of them have way

00:10:31.520 exceeded what they were

00:10:33.420 set up to do by the law in California.

00:10:35.720 So you look at the CARB, the air, I mentioned

00:10:37.440 them, they're driving a lot of this climate

00:10:39.340 stuff, the EV stuff and

00:10:41.180 mandates for everything, the vehicle

00:10:43.540 miles traveled, a lot of that is...

00:10:44.980 There's a way of looking at it that the most destructive

00:10:47.640 agency has been this one,

00:10:49.600 CARB, the Air Resources Board.

00:10:51.500 that it's been around for long before climate was the big driving ideological thing for the left

00:10:57.120 and so we we just made an announcement so i can't go back to caldoge i spoke about

00:11:03.480 the fraud reports that we've done we've done five different fraud reports we also didn't we've only

00:11:09.540 done one now but we're going to be doing more of them what i call bloat reports where we're looking

00:11:13.740 at the structure of the government the first one we did was nearly two weeks ago now looking at the

00:11:19.760 regulation of electricity in california we have four separate agencies regulating electricity

00:11:26.340 public utilities commission the energy commission something called kiso the independent service

00:11:31.940 operator and carb the air resources board um if you look at it on a per capita basis

00:11:38.020 california has 35 times the number of bureaucrats regulating electricity as other states 35 times

00:11:46.000 the number just the numbers of people the cost of that is 1.2 billion dollars before you even

00:11:51.360 generate any electricity so we obviously there's massive scope to merge them that's what we've

00:11:57.500 proposed to get to massively scale back these agencies you can zero out their budgets or reduce

00:12:03.640 them to very little yes they can override that with a veto in the legislature there hasn't been

00:12:08.680 an override of a governor's veto since the 1980s in california it's actually kind of a tough thing

00:12:13.920 to do because as the governor you've got the platform you they get they then have to defend

00:12:18.540 it and so if you're really aggressive and you're well prepared and i'm both of those things

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Valuetainment - May 24, 2026

＂A Patriotic Duty To Stop You＂ - Britain's Deep State Playbook For KILLING Reform

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