Valuetainment - October 31, 2025


“A State In Constant War” - America's Interventionism Will LEAD To It's Collapse


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In this episode, I sit down with former Vice President Joe Biden to talk about his views on interventionism and why it s a bad idea. We talk about the reasons why interventionism is bad for the U.S. and why Donald Trump won the election.

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00:00:00.760 Interventionists and non-interventionists, okay?
00:00:04.400 The argument for both sides, right?
00:00:06.240 When you think about, hey, I'm a interventionist,
00:00:08.980 I'm a non-interventionist,
00:00:11.000 what is the benefit of either?
00:00:13.960 Like, if you were to say,
00:00:14.880 this is why people become interventionists,
00:00:16.740 this is why they make the argument of non-interventionists,
00:00:18.940 what would you say it is?
00:00:20.980 I'm, to be perfectly honest,
00:00:22.820 after everything I've lived through,
00:00:24.260 and I guess my adult child, you know,
00:00:25.640 my adult life in terms of political perception
00:00:27.520 is formed by 9-11 and it's aftermath.
00:00:30.180 It's very hard for me to make a case for interventionism,
00:00:33.120 either from the perspective of benefiting the United States
00:00:35.620 or benefiting the countries in which we're intervening.
00:00:38.760 I think everybody ends off worse,
00:00:40.480 except for a tiny little sliver of military-industrial complex,
00:00:44.980 the U.S. intelligence community, the government, global elites.
00:00:48.480 I think those who benefit from this constant globalistic effort
00:00:52.160 to try and interfere in the world, intervene in the world.
00:00:55.460 I could make a lot of arguments for why.
00:00:57.560 I think Venezuela is a good case now 0.92
00:00:59.160 where, you know, this war is being sold on all the standard grounds.
00:01:02.780 Oh, Maduro is uniquely evil
00:01:04.100 and, you know, he's going to pass WMD to the United States 0.78
00:01:08.280 and kill us, but not WMD, but drugs.
00:01:10.700 You know, it's all the same rationale.
00:01:14.880 And then, you know, of course, we could go in and take out Maduro.
00:01:17.860 It wouldn't be that hard if we want to fight a war.
00:01:19.680 We did it in Panama.
00:01:20.580 It would be harder than that,
00:01:21.480 but we could still do it, of course,
00:01:22.580 kill thousands of Venezuelans. 1.00
00:01:24.180 And at the end of the day, we're going to impose this puppet regime.
00:01:26.160 We're going to be responsible for it.
00:01:27.320 We're going to fund it.
00:01:27.960 We're going to fund all the overflow of instability and civil war 0.92
00:01:31.920 and migration problems that are going to happen all throughout the region,
00:01:38.420 including probably for the United States.
00:01:39.980 And so, you know, you can say,
00:01:41.140 oh, look, we got rid of Saddam and we're so happy 0.99
00:01:43.440 because he was a bad guy, which he is,
00:01:44.740 but look at all the harm it did for the United States.
00:01:46.180 Oh, we got rid of Maduro.
00:01:47.080 No one thinks he's a good guy,
00:01:48.400 but all the problems that it's going to get going.
00:01:50.700 And, you know, at the end of the day,
00:01:51.960 I think the main reason why Trump won,
00:01:55.100 and one of the things I think Zoran Mandani did that was so good
00:01:57.900 that I knew early on he was going to be a very effective candidate
00:02:01.320 before people knew,
00:02:02.160 is after Trump won, he went on the street.
00:02:04.460 He went into the neighborhoods where
00:02:05.600 there was the biggest swing toward Trump in New York.
00:02:09.200 New York had mostly every community swung toward Trump
00:02:12.760 as opposed to prior elections.
00:02:14.800 And these were working class, multiracial neighborhoods.
00:02:17.200 And all he did was go and interview people on camera
00:02:19.100 and say, who did you vote for?
00:02:20.680 Trump?
00:02:21.000 Why?
00:02:21.900 And they would say, I'm really, you know,
00:02:24.060 our communities are falling apart
00:02:25.340 and I'm sick of how much money we're sending to Ukraine
00:02:28.120 and to Israel and to all these wars.
00:02:29.940 Also, immigration was a big deal.
00:02:31.240 Why are these people coming to the country illegally 1.00
00:02:32.720 getting more than our neighborhood?
00:02:35.340 And he shaped his campaign around that.
00:02:37.340 And that, I think, was the biggest appeal of Donald Trump was
00:02:41.100 our elite class cares about everything
00:02:44.000 except you and your family and your community.
00:02:46.260 We spend money on all these other globalistic ventures,
00:02:49.360 on all these wars and all these other countries
00:02:51.180 that have nothing to do with your lives.
00:02:53.220 We should instead put America first.
00:02:55.280 We should put Americans first.
00:02:56.480 His speech in the inaugural justice
00:02:58.140 was about the forgotten man.
00:02:59.600 Who is that?
00:03:00.080 Those are the, you know, working class people
00:03:01.980 in Pennsylvania and Ohio and Wisconsin
00:03:04.360 where everything has been de-industrialized
00:03:06.380 and the cities that are falling apart.
00:03:08.600 And so this interventionism, you know,
00:03:11.200 is a nice word for war,
00:03:12.840 is I think one of the things
00:03:14.760 that is most destroying the United States
00:03:16.400 and our future security and our welfare.
00:03:18.340 I just went to Malaysia last month.
00:03:20.320 Not a, I mean, where Trump is now
00:03:22.500 or was a couple days ago.
00:03:24.300 Not a particularly like country,
00:03:25.680 a country that's not particularly known
00:03:26.860 for its great prosperity.
00:03:28.400 You can find prosperity
00:03:29.220 in a lot of other countries.
00:03:30.040 It's a Muslim majority country.
00:03:32.260 You go there to Kuala Lumpur or wherever
00:03:34.700 and you look at the infrastructure,
00:03:35.880 the airports, the road,
00:03:37.060 everything is better than most American cities.
00:03:39.280 Why is that?
00:03:40.340 Why is a country like Malaysia 1.00
00:03:41.720 capable of having, you know,
00:03:44.500 cleaner cities, well, better organized cities?
00:03:46.380 It's not a, it's a democracy.
00:03:47.720 I mean, not a perfect democracy,
00:03:48.740 but it's democracy.
00:03:49.440 It's not like our, it's not Saudi Arabia.
00:03:51.480 And the reason is,
00:03:53.160 is because we use our resources
00:03:54.940 for everything except what's happening
00:03:57.080 inside of our country
00:03:58.040 and our communities and our people.
00:03:59.800 And I think that's the message above all else
00:04:02.060 that resonated for people with Trump.
00:04:03.720 And I want that message to be fully embraced finally.
00:04:08.180 And I think stopping unnecessary intervention
00:04:10.480 is a key way to do that.
00:04:11.660 Okay.
00:04:11.740 So let me ask you.
00:04:12.600 So you'll hear a lot of times people say,
00:04:16.260 wait, you know, the,
00:04:17.960 so you're saying you're not interventionist yourself.
00:04:22.160 Completely.
00:04:22.780 Okay.
00:04:23.360 So, so was George Washington, right?
00:04:25.580 So was Ron Paul.
00:04:27.060 So was Thomas Jefferson,
00:04:28.700 a lot of these guys, right?
00:04:30.080 Okay.
00:04:31.040 And at that time when that was going on,
00:04:33.880 maybe the argument somebody will make is 1776 is different than 2025.
00:04:39.120 Okay.
00:04:39.520 Let me pose this question.
00:04:41.200 How do you,
00:04:42.120 as a non-interventionist,
00:04:43.960 make it while your top five other enemies are all intervening?
00:04:50.280 How do you play offense or defense against them as a non-interventionist?
00:04:54.340 When was the last war China had?
00:04:55.800 Do you know?
00:04:57.080 I don't think they,
00:04:58.060 they have the same wars as we have.
00:04:59.580 I don't think they fight the way you and I fight.
00:05:01.580 Well,
00:05:02.000 but I'm saying like,
00:05:02.800 when was the last time they had a war?
00:05:04.040 Five years ago,
00:05:04.780 COVID.
00:05:05.680 I think they started that.
00:05:07.020 Okay.
00:05:07.500 They intervened.
00:05:08.420 That's intervening.
00:05:09.700 Okay.
00:05:10.080 I mean,
00:05:10.580 war in its classical sense,
00:05:11.900 in the sense that I mean,
00:05:12.520 let me just make the point.
00:05:13.660 You can obviously,
00:05:14.560 COVID is,
00:05:15.180 it was 1979.
00:05:17.300 They had a one month border war with Vietnam,
00:05:20.220 a one month border war with Vietnam.
00:05:21.720 That was 45 years ago.
00:05:24.900 Okay.
00:05:25.820 Okay.
00:05:26.380 We fought,
00:05:27.320 you couldn't count how many wars have we've had.
00:05:29.460 Interventions,
00:05:30.040 wars,
00:05:30.620 invasions,
00:05:31.400 bombings that we've done of many other countries.
00:05:33.580 And you look at China, 0.91
00:05:35.520 I don't mean politically,
00:05:36.640 right?
00:05:36.820 We talked about Saudi Arabia,
00:05:38.140 Qatar,
00:05:38.600 Emiratis in a favorable sense,
00:05:39.920 even though they're as repressive as anybody,
00:05:41.360 including China.
00:05:42.160 You look at China, 1.00
00:05:42.780 they have,
00:05:43.100 their cities are magnificent.
00:05:45.600 They're shocking in terms of their innovation.
00:05:47.600 They're building bridges,
00:05:48.860 their engineering feet.
00:05:49.900 And they release videos saying,
00:05:51.120 this is what happens when you don't spend $2 billion trying to occupy
00:05:54.000 Afghanistan and wanted to leave and have the Taliban march back in.
00:05:57.080 I'm not saying China,
00:05:58.040 I'm not,
00:05:58.280 it's not a defense of China.
00:05:59.780 I know,
00:06:00.260 I understand China's, 0.55
00:06:01.520 China's aggression, 0.94
00:06:02.600 but they don't fight wars.
00:06:04.160 They don't occupy countries.
00:06:05.240 They don't do regime change in other countries.
00:06:06.920 They're not overthrowing other countries.
00:06:08.940 You know,
00:06:09.120 Brazil,
00:06:09.840 where I live is now,
00:06:11.780 China is the biggest trading part,
00:06:13.100 or with Brazil,
00:06:14.240 replacing the United States.
00:06:15.480 The only thing China cares about, 0.97
00:06:16.900 if you're in Brazil and you say,
00:06:19.020 Taiwan is an independent country or Hong Kong should be free,
00:06:23.280 they get angry and will retaliate.
00:06:25.560 Anything else you do,
00:06:26.500 they don't give the slightest shit about what Brazil does.
00:06:28.820 Your internal governance,
00:06:29.840 they don't care what kind of government it has. 0.61
00:06:31.440 It's not their business.
00:06:32.000 How do you know that?
00:06:33.320 Because I see China and how it,
00:06:36.060 what it functions.
00:06:36.840 I see what they get angry about and what they don't.
00:06:38.380 You think we fully know why they do.
00:06:40.580 You think,
00:06:41.060 you think they buy land all around the world for no reason?
00:06:45.680 You think they're not trying to intervene and protect themselves long term?
00:06:49.720 Yes,
00:06:50.140 yes,
00:06:50.460 they are.
00:06:50.840 They're trying to protect themselves.
00:06:52.500 Exactly.
00:06:53.540 And nobody,
00:06:55.460 or basically nobody,
00:06:56.380 is opposed to American wars or intervention designed to protect ourselves.
00:07:00.500 If there's some country that's going to attack us,
00:07:02.900 that's threatening to attack us,
00:07:04.520 we're not trying to,
00:07:05.540 nobody's against going to war with that country.
00:07:08.060 That's a war of self-defense.
00:07:09.460 Everybody's in favor of that.
00:07:10.660 Or a country attacks you,
00:07:11.460 or is about to attack you,
00:07:12.540 you go to war.
00:07:14.000 That's not what's happening with these countries that,
00:07:16.720 that we're involved in,
00:07:17.520 in wars with.
00:07:18.900 Hamas isn't attacking the United States.
00:07:21.420 Russia is not attacking the United States.
00:07:23.640 Maduro is not attacking the United States.
00:07:25.760 These are,
00:07:26.280 these are,
00:07:26.960 these are basically using interventions and wars and bombing campaigns as a tool to achieve some other end.
00:07:34.360 And eventually a,
00:07:37.060 a state in constant war,
00:07:39.180 in a warlike state is going to collapse.
00:07:41.620 Perhaps history demonstrates that you can benefit for a while.
00:07:45.600 There's obviously benefits.
00:07:47.260 I agree there as well.
00:07:48.580 I'm not like,
00:07:49.680 for example,
00:07:50.140 I'm not for 780 military bases or whatever the numbers we have right.
00:07:54.740 I don't know what the number is right now,
00:07:55.920 Rob,
00:07:56.080 if you want to pull it up.
00:07:57.360 I'm not for all of that,
00:07:59.240 but I think to be a hundred percent non-interventionist,
00:08:02.780 while other countries are,
00:08:05.240 the only way I would agree with a hundred percent interventionist,
00:08:10.240 Glenn is 750 now.
00:08:14.060 The only way I would agree with interventionist is if we produce everything,
00:08:19.600 we don't buy from anyone,
00:08:21.200 we don't sell to anyone,
00:08:22.700 and it's a hundred percent internally and nobody relies on us and we don't rely on anybody.
00:08:27.500 But you say to people,
00:08:30.100 why do we care about how Taiwan is governed?
00:08:34.200 Why do we care about the extent of...
00:08:35.880 Because we need the chips from them.
00:08:36.860 Okay, right.
00:08:37.880 Desperately, we need the chips.
00:08:39.160 Precisely.
00:08:39.620 Yeah.
00:08:39.860 Which is a good reason why Taiwan is geostrategically important to us. 1.00
00:08:44.800 Right.
00:08:45.200 You're going to tell me we don't have the United States of America with Silicon Valley,
00:08:48.660 with our manufacturing capabilities,
00:08:50.060 we don't have the ability to produce chips ourselves.
00:08:54.340 We just haven't made it a priority.
00:08:56.020 Well, Trump has started.
00:08:56.920 He started with the 50-50 deal.
00:08:58.380 He tried to negotiate with Taiwan and they said no.
00:09:00.500 There's some Biden.
00:09:01.260 And then he said,
00:09:01.720 if you don't,
00:09:02.360 then we're going to build all here.
00:09:03.600 Exactly.
00:09:04.180 So let's assume, though,
00:09:06.140 that we are able to do that,
00:09:07.440 which of course we should do.
00:09:08.460 Why do we rely on Taiwan for processing chips?
00:09:11.760 It makes no sense.
00:09:12.660 Why do we have a supply chain that goes through China?
00:09:15.240 Why can't we have that for ourselves?
00:09:17.300 But let's assume we are no longer dependent on Taiwan for these chips.
00:09:21.780 We have American factories,
00:09:23.440 American workers producing American chips,
00:09:25.520 as we should with our ingenuity and technological know-how and our resources.
00:09:29.020 Once that happens,
00:09:31.040 should we go to war with China over Taiwan?
00:09:34.820 No, I don't think you can have an ally without having an enemy.
00:09:39.740 I don't think you can have an enemy without having an ally.
00:09:42.560 I think it's impossible.
00:09:44.060 I think whenever you have allies,
00:09:45.640 you have enemies.
00:09:46.380 Because somebody's not happy with that person,
00:09:49.700 and now that you create an alliance with that person,
00:09:51.740 the other person's an enemy of yours.
00:09:53.060 So you have to have a,
00:09:54.220 you automatically put yourself in a position to intervene.
00:09:56.820 Which is where you get back to Washington and Jefferson,
00:09:58.440 who warned against things like enduring alliances.
00:10:01.520 You know,
00:10:01.960 have no animosity toward other countries,
00:10:04.800 enduring animosities,
00:10:05.660 but also no enduring alliances.
00:10:07.300 That we take care of our own country,
00:10:09.060 we trade with other countries,
00:10:10.400 we have good relationships with other countries,
00:10:12.080 but we don't have these enduring alliances
00:10:14.120 where their enemies become our own.
00:10:15.700 But it's,
00:10:16.140 listen,
00:10:16.440 you know,
00:10:17.320 it's in too deep,
00:10:19.140 buddy.
00:10:19.800 Glenn,
00:10:20.060 we are so in too deep that for,
00:10:21.980 for us to want to now be non-interventionist,
00:10:25.140 it is so too late to do it because of what our history is and what we've done.
00:10:29.720 You would need to,
00:10:30.860 you would need to be an intervention,
00:10:33.340 non-interventionist for a hundred years,
00:10:36.260 wait every,
00:10:36.780 wait till everybody else dies off to forget that we used to intervene and everything,
00:10:40.840 and then we're true interventionists.
00:10:42.300 To become an interventionist is like,
00:10:45.320 it's such a,
00:10:46.200 you know what it's like?
00:10:47.220 It's,
00:10:48.600 it's like,
00:10:49.200 you know,
00:10:50.560 you know,
00:10:51.260 Miss,
00:10:51.580 Miss Venezuela,
00:10:53.360 what,
00:10:53.920 what is your dream?
00:10:55.180 I want to see world peace.
00:10:57.120 Oh my God.
00:10:59.720 Miss South Carolina.
00:11:01.100 What would you like?
00:11:01.960 That one was fully confused.
00:11:03.100 I don't even know if she knows what she said herself,
00:11:05.120 Miss South Carolina,
00:11:05.860 20 years ago,
00:11:06.960 but world peace.
00:11:09.520 Good luck.
00:11:10.760 It's not that,
00:11:11.700 but it's not like our entire history has been one of interventionism.
00:11:15.500 It was essentially,
00:11:16.260 obviously,
00:11:16.680 World War II was a war that everybody in the United States,
00:11:19.680 for the most part,
00:11:20.460 not everybody,
00:11:20.960 but agreed was a just war.
00:11:22.620 But then after that,
00:11:23.680 that's when the security state got created.
00:11:25.320 That's when Weisenhower warned of the emerging military industrial complex.
00:11:29.140 And then from there,
00:11:30.260 it grew with Vietnam from there, 0.80
00:11:31.580 it grew with the cold war and the Reagan years.
00:11:33.280 And therefore,
00:11:33.940 and then after 9 11,
00:11:35.100 it grew even further.
00:11:35.980 This is not an inevitability in the American experience.
00:11:39.380 We can,
00:11:40.220 I'm not saying we're going to,
00:11:41.940 you know,
00:11:42.300 have this Miss Venezuela.
00:11:43.620 Oh,
00:11:43.760 I want world peace.
00:11:44.920 That's not real.
00:11:46.020 That's not human relations,
00:11:47.100 but there are a lot of countries that are doing extremely well,
00:11:50.340 that don't have 750 military bases around the world that don't debate every year,
00:11:54.720 which of the four countries now should we bomb this year?
00:11:57.380 It is not something that can't be changed.
00:12:00.340 Trump ran on a platform of radically transforming our country in that way.
00:12:04.340 But,
00:12:04.500 but it's,
00:12:05.240 it is truly probably the toughest thing to accomplish to do that.
00:12:10.760 But also I think the most important,
00:12:12.340 because as long as we continue to be this country.
00:12:15.300 You know what's the toughest to accomplish?
00:12:16.580 You know,
00:12:16.840 it's the toughest to accomplish.
00:12:17.740 So if you ever notice when you ask people,
00:12:22.080 where are you from?
00:12:22.980 They say El Salvador.
00:12:25.100 And,
00:12:25.420 you know,
00:12:27.660 something like the other day,
00:12:28.780 we're at this restaurant and my wife,
00:12:30.200 and where are you from?
00:12:30.740 I'm a Salvador.
00:12:31.580 Oh,
00:12:31.800 wow.
00:12:32.020 Okay,
00:12:32.240 cool.
00:12:33.000 She says,
00:12:33.400 yeah,
00:12:33.560 I know.
00:12:33.960 Most people,
00:12:34.400 when they think about El Salvador,
00:12:35.280 they think about gangs and all this stuff,
00:12:36.820 MS-13.
00:12:37.840 I bought my first car by my own money from a MS-13 leader, 0.93
00:12:40.700 Mara Sabatrucha from San Bernardino Valley in LA.
00:12:43.820 But,
00:12:44.460 hey,
00:12:45.300 what's your last name?
00:12:46.520 Gambino.
00:12:47.540 Go ahead.
00:12:47.880 Try to clean up that last name of yours.
00:12:49.660 What do you guys do?
00:12:50.580 I'm a pastor.
00:12:52.020 Yeah,
00:12:52.180 we'd like to bring up our next,
00:12:53.800 today he's going to read,
00:12:56.240 teach us out of Corinthians.
00:12:57.840 Pastor Gambino.
00:12:59.400 Hello.
00:13:00.160 You know,
00:13:00.340 I'd like to start off with a prayer.
00:13:02.260 You're a member of that church.
00:13:03.300 You're sitting there saying,
00:13:04.820 babe, 0.51
00:13:05.120 did he just say the guy's name is Gambino?
00:13:07.920 Yeah.
00:13:08.760 And he's got a strong Italian accent,
00:13:10.460 like a New Yorker.
00:13:11.400 Yeah.
00:13:12.400 Babe, 0.51
00:13:12.580 let me Google this guy,
00:13:13.580 babe.
00:13:13.800 How does this guy,
00:13:14.780 you're going to go,
00:13:15.440 we are so into deep now.
00:13:18.120 It's a little defeatist though.
00:13:19.640 I mean,
00:13:19.840 I didn't say defeatist.
00:13:20.760 I don't mean by defeatist.
00:13:21.700 What I'm saying to you is,
00:13:22.780 I think we can,
00:13:24.220 I think we can work on de-hassling
00:13:27.100 and getting out of the way of a lot of things that's going on.
00:13:31.420 I think we can,
00:13:32.400 I think we have our hands in way too many things
00:13:34.740 in everyone's business.
00:13:36.480 I think it's like a friend that's trying to solve
00:13:38.380 every one of his friend's marriages.
00:13:40.100 Dude,
00:13:40.380 relax.
00:13:41.560 But if one of the cousins,
00:13:43.940 she's getting beat up by her husband 0.75
00:13:46.000 and she's got black eyes every other week, 1.00
00:13:48.440 you see.
00:13:48.920 You don't think that's why we intervene though.
00:13:50.560 You don't think,
00:13:51.120 we don't believe we intervene to go help the poor
00:13:53.240 and oppressed peoples of the world be liberated,
00:13:55.340 do you?
00:13:55.560 No,
00:13:55.940 I mean,
00:13:56.260 I've had the guy Perkins on a couple of times,
00:13:59.940 you know,
00:14:00.100 he wrote the book called the,
00:14:01.220 the,
00:14:02.160 um,
00:14:03.000 economic hit man,
00:14:05.380 right?
00:14:06.000 John Perkins.
00:14:06.720 I don't know if you read his book.
00:14:07.780 No.
00:14:08.280 Yeah.
00:14:08.440 He wrote a book called economic hit,
00:14:09.820 economic confessions of an economic hit man.
00:14:12.540 You know what he used to do?
00:14:13.760 He used to go to countries.
00:14:15.340 You actually would like talking to this guy.
00:14:17.180 He used to go to countries and he would sit down and he would say,
00:14:20.380 Hey,
00:14:20.700 we're going to come here.
00:14:22.200 We're going to put a few billion honors here.
00:14:24.120 We're going to make it a massive announcement and it's going to be great.
00:14:27.600 And we're going to create jobs.
00:14:29.300 Then after about 10 years,
00:14:30.580 you're not going to be able to pay it off.
00:14:32.680 We're going to get some,
00:14:33.580 uh,
00:14:33.900 uh,
00:14:34.240 some minerals from your,
00:14:35.980 whatever resources we need from you.
00:14:37.900 And you're going to say nothing.
00:14:39.320 And we're going to do that.
00:14:40.700 And if you don't,
00:14:41.760 we're going to kill you. 0.99
00:14:43.100 That's what this guy did for a living.
00:14:44.420 Yeah.
00:14:44.500 That's the reality.
00:14:45.440 This is why,
00:14:46.140 but this is,
00:14:46.700 which is why,
00:14:47.140 this is why nothing drives me more insane.
00:14:49.640 You know,
00:14:49.740 we just talked about the U S close relationship with the Saudis and the
00:14:52.700 Emiratis and the Egyptians. 0.95
00:14:54.100 And we don't,
00:14:54.720 we don't just embrace dictatorships.
00:14:56.940 We actually sometimes overthrow democratic governments and install
00:14:59.720 dictatorships.
00:15:00.940 We did that to Iran. 0.99
00:15:02.620 We did that to Iran. 0.99
00:15:03.860 Uh,
00:15:04.180 and it's one of the reasons why that country,
00:15:05.960 the people in the country hit us.
00:15:06.880 I'm not trying to explain your own country to you,
00:15:08.320 but you know that I've heard you say that before and you're absolutely
00:15:10.180 right.
00:15:10.680 Lots of,
00:15:11.240 I mean,
00:15:11.420 there's anti-American resentment in Brazil.
00:15:13.380 We did the same thing.
00:15:14.280 We overthrew their government in 1964,
00:15:15.560 put a military dictatorship in place for 21 years.
00:15:18.480 Obviously,
00:15:18.800 when people think of United States and Brazil,
00:15:20.200 they remember that it's true.
00:15:21.960 Every,
00:15:22.280 you know,
00:15:23.040 every continent,
00:15:23.580 every country.
00:15:24.580 Um,
00:15:25.820 and so this is the reality.
00:15:27.580 So the one thing that drives me crazy is when it's time to go to a war,
00:15:30.200 Hey,
00:15:30.400 we need to go fight in Ukraine because we want to come save democracy and
00:15:33.800 fight authoritarianism.
00:15:35.480 That was the,
00:15:36.160 we're going to go liberate the Iraqi, 1.00
00:15:37.460 the Iraqi people.
00:15:38.360 Now in Venezuela,
00:15:38.820 we're going to go liberate the Venezuelan people.
00:15:40.640 This is,
00:15:41.340 this is why we go interfere in other countries.
00:15:44.160 That's the real politic of it.
00:15:46.220 It's the pretext is we're going to go help and liberate the people of the
00:15:50.520 world.
00:15:50.800 This is fairytale bullshit.
00:15:52.140 We don't care if a country is dictatorial.
00:15:53.920 I agree.
00:15:54.560 I agree that this is happening and I'm not for this.
00:15:57.040 I agree.
00:15:58.000 I agree that this is,
00:15:58.980 I had them on a couple of times.
00:16:00.100 I agree.
00:16:01.180 I don't call for it.
00:16:02.280 I don't agree with it.
00:16:03.480 But at the same time,
00:16:06.180 the job of being a journalist,
00:16:09.680 the job of being a businessman,
00:16:12.180 podcaster,
00:16:13.120 the job of being a mother,
00:16:15.220 the job of being a director of CIA,
00:16:17.140 the job,
00:16:17.620 job of running NSA or president,
00:16:19.680 they all look at the lens and they'll have a different lens on all have a
00:16:24.860 different lens on for sure.
00:16:26.240 Oh,
00:16:26.540 and each one of them sees nobility in their jobs and each one of them sees
00:16:32.320 nobility in what they're doing.
00:16:33.580 Which by the way,
00:16:34.320 you ought to be proud of the job that you've chosen.
00:16:36.540 Now,
00:16:37.280 this job isn't for everybody.
00:16:40.160 It's not.
00:16:40.700 You know why that job isn't for everybody?
00:16:42.500 You know what I love about the fact that Trump said,
00:16:44.200 I'm probably not going to go to heaven no matter what I do.
00:16:46.220 Yeah,
00:16:46.420 I love that too.
00:16:47.060 You know why I love that?
00:16:48.460 I love it because it's honest to me.
00:16:50.960 I love it because it's like,
00:16:52.500 look,
00:16:52.840 man,
00:16:53.340 do you know what things I've done?
00:16:56.220 Do you know what things I've,
00:16:57.620 if God allows me in heaven,
00:16:59.280 I'm going to ask him,
00:17:00.220 what were you thinking?
00:17:01.480 Not just as president,
00:17:02.300 and his private life and his personal life and his business life.
00:17:05.100 I love Trump for that.
00:17:06.320 I love that.
00:17:06.560 I love that because to me,
00:17:08.220 it's a form of honest.
00:17:10.840 I don't,
00:17:11.060 you know what my favorite Trump thing is?
00:17:12.240 I don't know if you remember this,
00:17:12.960 but when Trump first got elected president,
00:17:15.820 Bill O'Reilly interviewed him as part of the Super Bowl show in 2017.
00:17:18.480 And Bill O'Reilly was pressing him quite aggressively and angrily on his fondness or desire to have better relations with Putin.
00:17:27.660 And Bill O'Reilly said,
00:17:28.740 what is it with you and Russia?
00:17:29.980 Putin is a killer.
00:17:31.420 And Trump said,
00:17:32.660 oh,
00:17:32.880 you think we're so innocent?
00:17:34.040 You don't think we have our killers?
00:17:35.680 Yeah.
00:17:35.940 It's like Bill O'Reilly's on the air for 30 years.
00:17:38.640 You know,
00:17:39.060 the most rated show on Bill O'Reilly.
00:17:40.340 And he doesn't know this.
00:17:41.580 It's not part of his thinking.
00:17:43.520 You know,
00:17:43.720 if you don't know that,
00:17:44.700 you don't understand anything about the world.
00:17:46.580 If you believe that fairy tale,
00:17:47.720 if that's what shapes your worldview.
00:17:49.860 So,
00:17:50.040 but here's the thing.
00:17:51.540 If that were helping Americans, 0.79
00:17:54.140 if that were redounding to the benefit of the American people,
00:17:57.520 I think you could have a debate about it.
00:17:59.320 The problem is,
00:18:00.340 it's redounding to the benefit,
00:18:01.720 basically,
00:18:02.220 of everybody except the American people.
00:18:04.540 You look at the lives of the American people,
00:18:05.980 you look at their economic security.
00:18:07.220 You can't say that.
00:18:07.860 You just look at,
00:18:09.300 look at the reality of life in the United States.
00:18:11.540 Yeah.
00:18:11.760 For,
00:18:12.040 for work,
00:18:12.500 the working class is disappearing. 0.98
00:18:13.780 The middle class is disappearing. 0.97
00:18:14.840 You can't have a family without both parents working.
00:18:17.380 This is,
00:18:17.840 this is horrible.
00:18:19.020 Glenn,
00:18:19.340 Glenn,
00:18:19.760 let's do this.
00:18:20.400 By the way,
00:18:20.800 a quick shout out to Rob.
00:18:22.060 He found that clip.
00:18:22.740 So if you want to play it,
00:18:23.500 we can come back to this.
00:18:25.220 Putin.
00:18:25.780 I do respect him.
00:18:26.720 Do you?
00:18:27.100 Why?
00:18:27.960 Well,
00:18:28.260 I respect a lot of people,
00:18:30.080 but that doesn't mean I'm going to get along with him.
00:18:31.920 He's a leader of his country.
00:18:34.660 I say it's better to get along with Russia than not. 0.99
00:18:37.860 And if Russia helps us in the fight against ISIS,
00:18:40.260 which is a major fight,
00:18:41.780 and Islamic terrorism all over the world. 0.51
00:18:44.880 Right.
00:18:45.280 Major fight.
00:18:46.000 That's a good thing.
00:18:46.920 Will I get along with him?
00:18:48.020 I have no idea.
00:18:49.060 He's a killer, though.
00:18:50.320 Putin's a killer.
00:18:52.260 A lot of killers.
00:18:53.440 We've got a lot of killers.
00:18:54.220 What,
00:18:54.580 you think our country's so innocent?
00:18:57.220 You think our country's so innocent?
00:18:59.260 I don't know of any government leaders that are killers.
00:19:01.440 You're positive right there.
00:19:02.340 After two years of working on this,
00:19:05.620 we have finally pulled it off.
00:19:06.940 And let me tell you what it is.
00:19:08.260 Every time we do the Vol Conference,
00:19:09.800 if you've attended,
00:19:10.580 you know this.
00:19:11.520 I stand up,
00:19:12.780 and I speak for probably 45 hours,
00:19:15.080 is what I do,
00:19:16.080 at the Vol Conference.
00:19:16.980 And I love it.
00:19:17.700 I love being around the guys.
00:19:18.720 I love it.
00:19:19.440 But I wear the Ferragamo shoes when I do this.
00:19:22.800 Or I wear some kind of dress shoes.
00:19:25.460 Eventually,
00:19:26.060 for the last 25 years,
00:19:27.400 I've always been on stage walking.
00:19:28.640 And I'm like,
00:19:29.040 you know what?
00:19:29.380 I'm sick and tired of it.
00:19:30.560 I want a shoe that I'm comfortable wearing.
00:19:33.320 And here's what I love.
00:19:34.580 I don't like shoes that are so heavy.
00:19:36.480 That's a dumbbell.
00:19:37.080 You can use it as a weapon.
00:19:38.280 I don't want that.
00:19:39.000 Like the Xenia,
00:19:39.580 you carry it.
00:19:40.340 I have so many of them,
00:19:41.360 but they're so heavy.
00:19:41.980 Like you can literally curl the Xenia,
00:19:43.780 you know,
00:19:44.220 the shoes,
00:19:44.740 and you'll get a pump within 30 reps.
00:19:46.300 And I wanted the combination of the Hoka, 0.99
00:19:49.880 the on-cloud,
00:19:51.000 the super foam,
00:19:51.660 because there's a big thing going on right now
00:19:53.160 with the super foam,
00:19:54.300 where the bottom of the shoe,
00:19:55.680 you wear it,
00:19:56.140 you know which ones I'm talking about,
00:19:57.200 the on-cloud or the hokas, right?
00:19:58.340 They're so comfortable.
00:19:59.340 And I said,
00:20:00.040 what if we take luxury,
00:20:02.200 and then combine it with the super comfort,
00:20:04.600 what would that look like?
00:20:05.960 And let's build it in Italy.
00:20:07.560 So what do we do?
00:20:08.420 We went to Italy.
00:20:09.820 We designed the shoe in Florida.
00:20:11.440 We made the shoe in Italy.
00:20:12.740 In five of the factories,
00:20:14.960 we went back and forth,
00:20:16.160 God knows how many times.
00:20:17.100 And by the way,
00:20:18.140 the shoes we're about to launch
00:20:19.360 and introduce to you right now,
00:20:20.400 where you're going to see the video
00:20:21.140 for the first time,
00:20:22.420 I've been wearing those shoes
00:20:23.360 for the last 22 days straight.
00:20:25.860 I'm wearing them right now.
00:20:26.760 I literally wear it with suits.
00:20:28.480 I wore it yesterday when we went to lunch.
00:20:30.360 I wear it every single day.
00:20:31.880 It's the most comfortable shoes I have.
00:20:33.800 Yet,
00:20:34.480 it's authentic Italian leather wrap.
00:20:36.680 If you don't mind playing the video,
00:20:38.140 go for it.
00:20:38.880 Here's the video of the latest shoe,
00:20:40.180 the FLBs.
00:20:41.180 When we set out to create a shoe
00:20:43.580 that blends comfort,
00:20:45.300 function,
00:20:45.980 and luxury,
00:20:47.360 we had the choice to make it fast.
00:20:49.560 We had the choice to make it cheap.
00:20:51.720 We chose neither.
00:20:53.220 Instead,
00:20:53.840 we chose Toscaniro.
00:20:55.400 We chose true Italian craftsmanship.
00:20:58.180 Each pair touched by 50 skilled hands.
00:21:01.040 We chose patience,
00:21:02.480 spending two years perfecting every detail,
00:21:04.940 and we chose the finest quality
00:21:06.540 at every step.
00:21:07.800 introducing the Future Looks Bright collection.
00:21:12.140 Not rushed,
00:21:13.580 not disposable,
00:21:15.040 not ordinary.
00:21:16.400 Rather,
00:21:17.720 intentional,
00:21:19.100 luxurious,
00:21:20.420 timeless.
00:21:24.260 Boom.
00:21:25.180 There you go.
00:21:25.940 Designed in Florida,
00:21:26.940 100% made in Italy.
00:21:28.880 50 hands touched each shoe that was made,
00:21:31.640 and here's what's unique about it.
00:21:32.920 I want to kind of show this to everybody
00:21:34.100 that knows this,
00:21:35.380 and I've worn pretty much
00:21:36.380 every one of these shoes.
00:21:37.360 So,
00:21:37.880 if you compare this,
00:21:39.000 the Italian leather,
00:21:40.360 of course,
00:21:40.960 it's made in Italy.
00:21:42.020 It's not assembled,
00:21:42.980 made in China,
00:21:43.840 assembled in Italy,
00:21:44.940 100% made in Italy,
00:21:46.080 assembled in Italy.
00:21:47.220 It's FLBs,
00:21:48.500 Berlutis,
00:21:49.120 which are 1840,
00:21:50.560 Fergamos are 895, 1.00
00:21:51.900 Zennias are 1190,
00:21:52.920 and Gucci's are 950.
00:21:54.620 Leather premium lining,
00:21:55.920 all of them except for Gucci.
00:21:57.920 Laceless feature,
00:21:59.020 it's the FLBs,
00:22:00.020 the Berlutis,
00:22:00.740 you have laces,
00:22:01.860 Fergamos laceless,
00:22:03.600 and then you have also the Zennias,
00:22:04.880 and then the Gucci's have the laces.
00:22:06.200 I don't want to wake up in the morning
00:22:07.140 and put laces on.
00:22:07.780 I want to get out of the house.
00:22:08.500 Took me three seconds
00:22:09.640 to put my shoes on today.
00:22:11.360 Craftsman,
00:22:11.860 five different Italian factories
00:22:13.740 all made this shoe.
00:22:15.300 Berlutis are the same as us,
00:22:16.400 as well as FLB.
00:22:17.660 But the only shoe,
00:22:18.980 these trainers,
00:22:19.920 the only one in the world today,
00:22:21.480 according to the factories
00:22:22.540 that told me this,
00:22:23.480 in Italy,
00:22:24.320 that has the super foam,
00:22:25.520 the only one
00:22:26.720 that has the same super foam used,
00:22:28.760 in the Arn Clouds
00:22:29.700 and the Hocas,
00:22:31.020 it's the FLBs
00:22:31.980 and they're officially out
00:22:33.180 and you can place the order.
00:22:34.620 Here's a challenge.
00:22:35.800 We only have
00:22:36.680 a thousand of these pairs.
00:22:38.540 And when you say
00:22:38.920 a thousand of these pairs,
00:22:40.000 they start from size,
00:22:40.920 I believe,
00:22:41.900 is it eight?
00:22:42.960 It goes eight,
00:22:43.820 nine,
00:22:44.520 ten,
00:22:45.080 ten and a half,
00:22:45.700 eleven,
00:22:46.180 eleven and a half,
00:22:46.860 twelve,
00:22:47.160 thirteen.
00:22:47.840 Those are the sizes that we have.
00:22:49.600 And the shoes that you can get today,
00:22:51.020 the colors,
00:22:52.040 you have access to,
00:22:53.000 Rob,
00:22:53.280 if you can go back there,
00:22:54.180 you can have access to those browns,
00:22:55.620 which is absolutely beautiful.
00:22:57.500 And by the way,
00:22:57.880 the brown on the bottom,
00:22:58.860 the stitching on the side
00:23:00.260 is a left stitching.
00:23:01.380 If you can change the picture
00:23:02.640 and on the bottom,
00:23:03.240 it says the future looks bright.
00:23:05.560 Look at the white lines
00:23:08.100 on the side.
00:23:08.860 It's beautiful.
00:23:09.540 The only ones we have right now
00:23:11.140 that you can get sent out today
00:23:12.880 are the black and the browns.
00:23:14.740 If you do want the white 0.92
00:23:16.280 to pre-order,
00:23:17.100 I would highly recommend you do so.
00:23:19.060 They're going to come out
00:23:19.700 the second week of December.
00:23:20.740 So the white 0.94
00:23:21.860 and the navy blue
00:23:22.760 comes out the second week
00:23:23.660 of December.
00:23:24.140 The browns 0.98
00:23:24.700 and the blacks 0.98
00:23:25.760 are available.
00:23:26.900 If you believe
00:23:27.800 the future looks bright
00:23:28.680 as much as we do,
00:23:30.080 go place the order.
00:23:30.940 There's nothing like
00:23:31.820 sitting in the boardroom
00:23:32.860 with your trainers
00:23:33.880 and you put your feet
00:23:34.800 over your knee
00:23:35.560 and people look at the bottom
00:23:36.820 of your shoe
00:23:37.200 and it says future looks bright.
00:23:38.520 That's how you get deals done.
00:23:39.540 All right.
00:23:39.880 So they're out.
00:23:40.480 I'm excited to announce it
00:23:41.500 and I'm very happy
00:23:42.620 for people to go sport it.
00:23:44.140 When you get them,
00:23:45.020 take pictures,
00:23:45.660 send it our way.
00:23:46.400 We're going to show
00:23:46.800 all these shoes,
00:23:47.540 all the pictures
00:23:47.980 that are being taken.
00:23:48.720 I already got a bunch
00:23:49.320 of them sent to me
00:23:49.780 on Instagram.
00:23:50.600 Go to vtmerch.com,
00:23:51.960 place your order.
00:23:52.860 It's all over the website.
00:23:54.000 Maybe buy it for your husband, 0.93
00:23:55.360 buy it for your brother,
00:23:56.400 buy it for your coworkers,
00:23:57.700 buy it for your best salespeople
00:23:58.940 if you want to let them know
00:24:00.120 the future looks bright.
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