Valuetainment - January 25, 2026


ļ¼‚Aging Is Solvableļ¼‚ - Musk SHOCKS Davos With Reverse Aging BOMBSHELL

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Is there anything we can do to reverse aging? Elon Musk and Larry Fink discuss the possibility of doing so, and why it would be a huge breakthrough in our understanding of human biology and human evolution. Plus, the RBC Avion Visa program, where you get up to 55,000 Avion points that never expire.

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00:00:43.560 This is Larry Fink and Elon Musk on aging.
00:00:48.120 Is there going to be anything that we can, you know, reverse aging?
00:00:54.340 Okay, the conversation about reverse aging.
00:00:56.200 And look what Musk's answer is.
00:00:57.700 Larry Fink, who I believe, Rob, is in his late 60s, early 70s.
00:01:02.680 Can we find out how old Larry Fink is?
00:01:04.300 He runs BlackRock.
00:01:05.200 $14 trillion.
00:01:07.180 73.
00:01:07.980 73 years old.
00:01:08.900 Assets under management.
00:01:10.020 22,000 employees.
00:01:11.880 Give or take.
00:01:12.560 They have offices in 30 countries.
00:01:14.220 They have investments in 100-plus countries.
00:01:17.420 But he's at an age where it's kind of like, look, man, I'm getting close to this thing.
00:01:21.720 Can I reverse aging?
00:01:23.640 Elon Musk's answer excites Larry Fink.
00:01:26.660 Watch this.
00:01:27.380 Can we, uh, can you and I reverse aging in this new history or are we going to see it?
00:01:34.220 I think, you know, I haven't put much time into the aging stuff.
00:01:40.940 I do think it is a very solvable problem.
00:01:43.780 Like you can, I think when we figure out what causes aging, I think we'll find it's incredibly
00:01:51.560 obvious, it's not a subtle thing.
00:01:53.960 Um, the reason I say it's not a subtle thing is because all the cells in your body, you
00:01:58.800 know, with some, pretty much age at the same rate.
00:02:02.320 I've never seen someone with, with an old left arm and a young right arm ever in my life.
00:02:09.200 Um, so why is that?
00:02:10.220 It, it, it, that means that there must be a clock, a synchronizing clock.
00:02:13.620 Right.
00:02:14.200 That is synchronizing across 35 trillion cells in your body.
00:02:18.080 Um, and, uh, uh, you know, uh, there is some benefit to death, by the way.
00:02:28.340 It's like, there's, there's a reason why we don't actually have a longer lifespan.
00:02:33.380 Uh, because if you, if you have, if people do live forever for a very long time, I think
00:02:38.180 there's some risk of an ossification of society, of, of things just getting kind of locked in
00:02:45.100 place. Um, and, uh, you know, it, it, it, it just may become, um, stultifying, just not,
00:02:56.240 uh, lack, lack vibrancy. Um, but that, that, that said, do I think we'll figure out ways to
00:03:03.880 extend life and, um, and maybe even reverse aging? I think that's highly likely.
00:03:09.880 I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to that. Okay. So what do you think? You think
00:03:15.760 it's going to happen? You think the reverse aging thing will take place, Tom?
00:03:20.020 Well, I think we're already making a lot of ground on, uh, cancer because if you take cancer
00:03:25.960 and heart disease out, um, you, you, you, you basically, that's where you're getting, uh, the
00:03:32.740 human population going from, you know, 48 to 73. Um, if you take a look at the turn of the century
00:03:41.040 and antibiotics, right. It used to be that, um, you know, pneumonia at age 30 could be a death
00:03:47.100 sentence. That could be that. Um, but now, you know, advanced antibiotics and things allowed you to,
00:03:52.500 to live longer. I think we're going to, I think we're going to see it. I think we're going to see
00:03:58.000 incremental, uh, things going forward. Now we also have the contra effect that we're poisoning
00:04:03.840 ourselves and we're running ourselves in background, like what happens with food in
00:04:07.760 certain countries like ours in terms of processing sugar, obesity, you know, um, health oriented
00:04:14.280 diabetes. In other words, not diabetes since you were young, because your pancreas had a defect,
00:04:19.120 but you, you basically traumatizing your body and your pancreas through diet and weight to the
00:04:25.760 point that your pancreas, you know, you develop, you know, health oriented, uh, diabetes. When you
00:04:31.440 start moving a lot of that back, you suddenly are going to, I think going to find, um, a lot of,
00:04:37.360 um, aging acceleration. We're already living in a world where right now we have more hundred year
00:04:42.520 olds than ever. And I think that's, what's that doubling in three years, the number of hundred year
00:04:47.560 olds that are around us doubling in three years. And so we're going to see it, but I think we're going
00:04:52.980 to see it in incremental ways. Like people that get smart about sugar, it's smart about weight.
00:04:57.400 You're talking more education, not actual reverse aging, Benjamin Button type of stuff that's going
00:05:03.120 on. No, I, I, no, I think there will be some of that. They're going to figure certain things out.
00:05:08.860 Adam, where are you at with this? Look, we're already living in the best time in human history.
00:05:13.780 I mean, taking people out of poverty, extending life expectancy, reducing infant mortality is
00:05:22.180 the best time to be alive. So all the people that are the doomsday and the global warming,
00:05:26.180 and I hate America, check the research on that. I'm in the life settlement, life insurance world.
00:05:33.160 You know that. And the cornerstone of that is life expectancy. People are living longer than
00:05:37.380 ever, especially if you just take care of yourself. If you got some money and you got some health
00:05:43.760 insurance and you got some coverage, what a time to be alive, especially in America.
00:05:48.980 Don't smoke, watch what you eat. Don't be a fat ass workout from time to time. And you know, 0.99
00:05:55.320 they said that sitting is the new smoking, get out and work out a little bit, get some sun as well.
00:06:00.020 So the real question is this life expectancy is longer than ever. People are living longer,
00:06:05.660 but are they living healthier? You know, you've talked about not life expectancy. What's your
00:06:10.220 health expectancy? If you take care of yourself and you work out like this guy right here,
00:06:15.360 you have a family and kids like this guy right here, which I'm working on. Life is great, man.
00:06:20.540 Vinny.
00:06:21.320 Well, I think, you know, it's reverse aging going backwards. The Benjamin Button thing is hilarious,
00:06:27.080 but I think taking care of yourself should be...
00:06:29.440 But reverse aging, guys.
00:06:31.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:06:32.140 Do you think reverse aging will happen?
00:06:33.500 No, I think it will. I think everything to me with technology and everything that's happening with AI,
00:06:38.620 AI, it's definitely, they're definitely going to figure it out, especially when he
00:06:41.580 simplifies it the way that he's saying it's the clock.
00:06:44.020 Can you imagine you put something in you and you're seeing your skin, the wrinkles going away?
00:06:48.200 Going away. And by the way, you're lasting longer in your being here, but as a Christian, 0.96
00:06:52.120 I think we forget, like, the design of this whole thing. It's not to be here forever.
00:06:55.820 It's be fruitful, be multiplied, pass on the wisdom to the next generation and then meet your maker.
00:07:01.040 I think that arc has to happen. So messing with the plan, with God's plan, yes, I think it's going to happen.
00:07:08.080 But, you know, you're supposed to live your best life and then you're supposed to move on.
00:07:11.640 I think these guys are messing with you.
00:07:12.660 What are you thinking?
00:07:13.240 If we get to that point, which I think we will, at least in our lifetime, especially at the rate AI is going,
00:07:22.080 but it's, would you take it?
00:07:24.640 Would you take it?
00:07:26.020 I think if I have a big enough family and I continue to go with that pout, I would love to take it.
00:07:32.940 What age would you like to live to, Efren? Pick your age.
00:07:37.120 My age, I keep telling my kids I'll be 100 plus.
00:07:40.340 You want to be 100 plus?
00:07:41.400 100 plus.
00:07:41.880 You want to make it 100 plus?
00:07:42.880 I want to make it to 100 plus.
00:07:43.760 Would you want to live to 200?
00:07:46.700 I don't know about, depends how the world is going.
00:07:49.680 I guess, yeah, it's, enjoy life when you have it.
00:07:54.980 If you keep extending it and what life's going to be, what's the true meaning of life at that point?
00:08:01.100 Would you want to live to 200?
00:08:02.540 Absolutely not.
00:08:03.680 With my back?
00:08:04.480 I'll explain.
00:08:06.020 With my back?
00:08:06.840 By the way, what if they find a way where that back pain goes away?
00:08:10.920 Yeah.
00:08:11.320 What if your knee pain goes away?
00:08:13.320 What if your ankle pain goes away?
00:08:14.760 The elbows, the shoulder, the neck, the peeing seven times a night, the bubbling you have to do.
00:08:20.920 I'm already doing that.
00:08:21.580 It's actually up to eight.
00:08:22.520 But what I'm saying is, forget about all of that.
00:08:25.740 What if all of that goes away?
00:08:27.260 Would you want to live to 200?
00:08:28.240 I'll tell you, if you want to be completely selfish, then yeah, live to 1,000.
00:08:34.600 But if you want to see all your friends, your family, your kids all die and you're still alive, I got a major problem with that.
00:08:43.200 And my grandmother, she just died at age 100 two weeks ago.
00:08:49.900 She died.
00:08:50.860 My entire family flew in from Minnesota.
00:08:54.060 And we celebrated her 100th birthday.
00:08:58.340 We all took pictures.
00:08:59.900 We all had cake.
00:09:01.160 She has dementia.
00:09:02.240 She sat there.
00:09:02.900 I think she remembers my aunt and my uncle a little bit.
00:09:07.040 And we all left.
00:09:08.460 They put her to bed.
00:09:09.660 And two days later, she was dead.
00:09:11.760 And we all said, what a beautiful life she had.
00:09:14.380 Thank God we did this.
00:09:16.140 My other grandma, who's like my closest grandma, she's 94.
00:09:20.580 And she's complaining. 0.77
00:09:21.920 I don't feel good.
00:09:22.580 She's way more cognitive than this other grandma.
00:09:25.180 I said, Grandma, I love you.
00:09:27.400 I don't want to hear it.
00:09:29.100 I'm already planning your 100th birthday.
00:09:31.180 It's in six years.
00:09:32.340 I already put the down payment on the party room.
00:09:35.740 No excuses.
00:09:36.780 I need you there.
00:09:37.760 And you know what she says?
00:09:38.760 Okay.
00:09:39.640 I'm going to do my best to make it.
00:09:41.800 And I'm giving her a reason to live.
00:09:43.700 So do you want to live to 200?
00:09:45.580 No.
00:09:46.280 Because all your friends and family are going to die.
00:09:48.580 But age 100, with all your family and kids and grandkids, that's a beautiful thing.
00:09:53.960 What I'm talking about is you go to a doctor.
00:09:57.840 New technology comes out.
00:09:59.160 But for a million dollars, they can make you look to the best version you can be and internally change organs, healthier, live longer.
00:10:10.620 You know, if you have the resources, buy a younger heart, younger this, younger that.
00:10:15.600 They do the surgery.
00:10:16.420 They put it in there.
00:10:17.460 Would you want that?
00:10:18.400 Would you want to do that?
00:10:19.420 I would want a better ā€“ I mean, I have high blood pressure.
00:10:23.820 I would love it.
00:10:24.440 Give me a heart.
00:10:25.000 You with the red face and the veins have high blood pressure? 1.00
00:10:27.980 Adam, sitting next to you is the reason I get the red veins and the freaking face. 0.98
00:10:31.180 Vinny, sitting next to you, my left eardrum is now non-existent. 0.98
00:10:34.280 Huh?
00:10:34.620 Sitting next to Ephraim, it feels great.
00:10:36.840 That's called compare and contract.
00:10:38.280 What do you have with this?
00:10:39.520 Well, first of all, God's not going to let us do anything of medicine that he doesn't want us to do.
00:10:43.920 So I have faith in that.
00:10:45.300 I have faith that he's in control, right?
00:10:47.160 He says he knows the days and things, so I believe God's in control.
00:10:50.960 I don't think we're going to get to, like, magic reversal, but I think we're going to get to a lot of life extension.
00:10:57.240 I think we're going to get to a lot of things on cancer and a lot of things on life extension, Pat, where you age more slowly and you age better.
00:11:06.400 I don't think we're going to be able to go into reverse.
00:11:08.980 We do things like facelift and Botox and suddenly a 40-year-old person looks 32, 33, tighten up the skin and all that, and you can worry about that all day long.
00:11:19.380 And there are some things you can do that way, but I think we're going to have slower aging and we're going to conquer certain diseases.
00:11:26.560 But I'm like, you know, I am absolutely, you know, focused on 100, and I've actually more recently, because I look around how old will everybody be around me, I look at 110, and I say, and then I look at all the stats.
00:11:43.400 You know, there's going to be 420,000 100-year-olds when I turn 100.
00:11:49.320 I'm going to be part of that.
00:11:51.160 I like that.
00:11:51.840 Maybe he can ask you a question?
00:11:52.980 Yeah.
00:11:53.140 So, forgive me if it's too personal, we all love your dad, Gabriel.
00:12:00.160 He's 83.
00:12:02.060 83.
00:12:03.640 Have you had that discussion with age 100, how long he'd want to live?
00:12:09.000 Obviously, that's your role model, your hero.
00:12:12.240 What are your thoughts on him living to 200?
00:12:14.960 See, that's a different conversation.
00:12:17.000 I'd want him to live and outlive me.
00:12:20.480 I want everybody to outlive me.
00:12:23.500 It's not even a question, but there's a reason why God created it the way he did.
00:12:30.400 I think there is, in the weirdest way, is certain experiences that bring pain, I think it's necessary.
00:12:42.280 I think you need it because you need, you know, when I was coming up, I needed setback to humble me.
00:12:54.460 You know, if I was a 22-year-old today, it would be a very different PBD people would be remembering me for.
00:13:02.940 If I was 22, having nothing to lose, having nothing that's going on.
00:13:07.900 Life was, I'm in debt, $49,000, you know, and then I'm with this company.
00:13:13.720 I'm a rock star at 21.
00:13:15.620 I'm giving talks on yachts in Newport Beach, and I'm the poster child of this technology company that's coming out with this billionaire that is mentoring me in L.A.
00:13:24.080 and I'm at his place in Newport all the time, beautiful $35 million home at that time.
00:13:29.620 It's now a $100 million home out in water, beautiful, beautiful property.
00:13:33.440 And then I'm like, man, I'm going to be this, I'm going to be that, and then boom, I lost it all.
00:13:40.420 And it was embarrassing.
00:13:42.040 Girl leaves, friends are making fun of you because, you know, I thought you were going to be a millionaire. 0.89
00:13:47.320 You know, I thought you were pulling up on a Ford Focus, that stick shift, no power windows, you know, the old school windows, the AC is a ghetto AC, car payment on the Focus is 228.
00:13:59.460 And then you look at how everybody looks at you, and they have that smirk on their face.
00:14:03.640 You know what the smirk on their face is like?
00:14:05.180 What happened, huh?
00:14:06.120 I told you, you were like dreaming.
00:14:07.840 And then you have to take it.
00:14:09.580 And then you're like, yeah, you're never going to look at me like that ever again.
00:14:13.340 That's just never going to happen.
00:14:14.460 So I think that's one pain.
00:14:16.140 Then there's the pain to lose someone for you to realize why you have to be more grateful.
00:14:25.720 God teaches gratitude in a very unique way.
00:14:28.900 You know, God teaches important relationships and friendships in a very weird way.
00:14:34.260 He teaches you on how to be the benefits of being better at relationships in a very weird way.
00:14:42.880 You may have a transactional mind, and you're like, well, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that.
00:14:47.200 And you're like, no, man, you need relationships.
00:14:49.700 You have to learn how to better build relationships.
00:14:52.440 So to me, look, you know, with my dad, I asked God for one thing with dad many years ago when I was in the military.
00:15:00.340 I just said, God, I want my kids to get to know him.
00:15:03.920 And I want to, you know, the time that I didn't get with him when I was 10 to 12 years old, when my parents got a divorce and I lived in Germany.
00:15:10.460 And then the next six years when I saw him one Saturday, Sunday, every other weekend, and then I go to the army for two and a half years, I don't see my city.
00:15:18.860 I want to find a way to rekindle that relationship.
00:15:21.340 And then how he lives with us the last five years, family, all of that.
00:15:24.780 No, there is a time for everything.
00:15:28.420 I mean, even in the Bible, who says that?
00:15:31.580 There's a time to mourn.
00:15:32.920 There's time to, who says that?
00:15:34.280 Is that the?
00:15:36.280 King Solomon wrote it in Ecclesiastes.
00:15:38.080 Ecclesiastes.
00:15:38.600 Yeah, Ecclesiastes.
00:15:39.640 Yeah, there's a time for, there's a time really for everything, right?
00:15:43.780 There's a time to weep.
00:15:44.600 There's a time to laugh.
00:15:45.320 There's a time to mourn.
00:15:46.560 There's time to dance.
00:15:47.620 That is really a part of life.
00:15:50.340 Like, we have to realize, you know, mourning happens.
00:15:54.840 And sometimes it's a way of saying, hey, it's your time to step up.
00:15:59.280 Stop being so selfish.
00:16:01.040 Stop living your life just for you.
00:16:02.700 People are relying on you.
00:16:04.340 You know, people are relying on you to lead the family.
00:16:06.340 I had one of my guys, when his father died, he called me one time.
00:16:09.120 He was driving back from Lodi back to California.
00:16:12.300 And we're on the phone together.
00:16:14.780 And he's just crying.
00:16:15.820 I said, listen, you can cry all you want with me on the phone right now.
00:16:18.980 Do it.
00:16:19.300 Get it out of your system.
00:16:20.600 When you get in front of your family, everybody else can cry.
00:16:25.420 You're officially the leader.
00:16:26.540 And if you need to cry, step away, get in the car, come back.
00:16:30.800 One person needs to carry the burden to family.
00:16:33.860 One person needs to carry the burden to family.
00:16:36.400 Cry privately as much as you want the next five hours.
00:16:38.800 When you get there, you're the oldest son.
00:16:41.000 You need to officially be able to lead this family.
00:16:43.100 And that's not an easy burden that comes with it.
00:16:45.140 But your father had to carry it.
00:16:46.540 Now it's on you to carry it.
00:16:47.580 So I think that part that we fight, listen, it is what it is.
00:16:53.820 You know, you got to go through it.
00:16:54.960 But me, selfishly, if I had a mind, I want everybody to outlive me.
00:16:59.480 I want everybody to outlive me.
00:17:02.580 But God's got different plans.
00:17:03.960 You got to trust it.
00:17:05.400 Efren, maybe take a minute here and share with the audience how you ended up being on the podcast.
00:17:09.480 So it was during Christmas, like you said.
00:17:11.880 And I ended up, I was going to buy the merch anyway.
00:17:14.520 So I ended up buying two pairs of the shoes.
00:17:17.840 And then also the sales classes.
00:17:19.560 I saw a massive discount.
00:17:20.820 So I purchased that.
00:17:21.900 And I actually love what you guys do on the emails.
00:17:24.700 I still get emails right now saying you have not started the courses.
00:17:27.960 Oh, really?
00:17:28.460 Yeah.
00:17:28.800 So when are you starting them?
00:17:30.360 Well, because right now my goal is to improve communication.
00:17:33.320 So I'm taking the course for that.
00:17:34.700 Good.
00:17:34.980 Once that's completed, then I'll jump to that course.
00:17:36.920 I love it.
00:17:37.380 So it's actually following up with you to make sure you do it.
00:17:39.460 Yes, love it.
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