"Aging Is Solvable" - Musk SHOCKS Davos With Reverse Aging BOMBSHELL
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Is there anything we can do to reverse aging? Elon Musk and Larry Fink discuss the possibility of doing so, and why it would be a huge breakthrough in our understanding of human biology and human evolution. Plus, the RBC Avion Visa program, where you get up to 55,000 Avion points that never expire.
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Is there going to be anything that we can, you know, reverse aging?
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Larry Fink, who I believe, Rob, is in his late 60s, early 70s.
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But he's at an age where it's kind of like, look, man, I'm getting close to this thing.
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Can we, uh, can you and I reverse aging in this new history or are we going to see it?
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I think, you know, I haven't put much time into the aging stuff.
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Like you can, I think when we figure out what causes aging, I think we'll find it's incredibly
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Um, the reason I say it's not a subtle thing is because all the cells in your body, you
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know, with some, pretty much age at the same rate.
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I've never seen someone with, with an old left arm and a young right arm ever in my life.
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It, it, it, that means that there must be a clock, a synchronizing clock.
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That is synchronizing across 35 trillion cells in your body.
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Um, and, uh, uh, you know, uh, there is some benefit to death, by the way.
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It's like, there's, there's a reason why we don't actually have a longer lifespan.
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Uh, because if you, if you have, if people do live forever for a very long time, I think
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there's some risk of an ossification of society, of, of things just getting kind of locked in
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place. Um, and, uh, you know, it, it, it, it just may become, um, stultifying, just not,
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uh, lack, lack vibrancy. Um, but that, that, that said, do I think we'll figure out ways to
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extend life and, um, and maybe even reverse aging? I think that's highly likely.
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I'm looking forward to that. I'm looking forward to that. Okay. So what do you think? You think
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it's going to happen? You think the reverse aging thing will take place, Tom?
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Well, I think we're already making a lot of ground on, uh, cancer because if you take cancer
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and heart disease out, um, you, you, you, you basically, that's where you're getting, uh, the
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human population going from, you know, 48 to 73. Um, if you take a look at the turn of the century
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and antibiotics, right. It used to be that, um, you know, pneumonia at age 30 could be a death
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sentence. That could be that. Um, but now, you know, advanced antibiotics and things allowed you to,
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to live longer. I think we're going to, I think we're going to see it. I think we're going to see
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incremental, uh, things going forward. Now we also have the contra effect that we're poisoning
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ourselves and we're running ourselves in background, like what happens with food in
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certain countries like ours in terms of processing sugar, obesity, you know, um, health oriented
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diabetes. In other words, not diabetes since you were young, because your pancreas had a defect,
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but you, you basically traumatizing your body and your pancreas through diet and weight to the
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point that your pancreas, you know, you develop, you know, health oriented, uh, diabetes. When you
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start moving a lot of that back, you suddenly are going to, I think going to find, um, a lot of,
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um, aging acceleration. We're already living in a world where right now we have more hundred year
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olds than ever. And I think that's, what's that doubling in three years, the number of hundred year
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olds that are around us doubling in three years. And so we're going to see it, but I think we're going
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to see it in incremental ways. Like people that get smart about sugar, it's smart about weight.
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You're talking more education, not actual reverse aging, Benjamin Button type of stuff that's going
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on. No, I, I, no, I think there will be some of that. They're going to figure certain things out.
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Adam, where are you at with this? Look, we're already living in the best time in human history.
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I mean, taking people out of poverty, extending life expectancy, reducing infant mortality is
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the best time to be alive. So all the people that are the doomsday and the global warming,
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and I hate America, check the research on that. I'm in the life settlement, life insurance world.
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You know that. And the cornerstone of that is life expectancy. People are living longer than
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ever, especially if you just take care of yourself. If you got some money and you got some health
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insurance and you got some coverage, what a time to be alive, especially in America.
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Don't smoke, watch what you eat. Don't be a fat ass workout from time to time. And you know,
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they said that sitting is the new smoking, get out and work out a little bit, get some sun as well.
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So the real question is this life expectancy is longer than ever. People are living longer,
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but are they living healthier? You know, you've talked about not life expectancy. What's your
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health expectancy? If you take care of yourself and you work out like this guy right here,
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you have a family and kids like this guy right here, which I'm working on. Life is great, man.
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Well, I think, you know, it's reverse aging going backwards. The Benjamin Button thing is hilarious,
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but I think taking care of yourself should be...
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No, I think it will. I think everything to me with technology and everything that's happening with AI,
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AI, it's definitely, they're definitely going to figure it out, especially when he
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simplifies it the way that he's saying it's the clock.
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Can you imagine you put something in you and you're seeing your skin, the wrinkles going away?
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Going away. And by the way, you're lasting longer in your being here, but as a Christian,
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I think we forget, like, the design of this whole thing. It's not to be here forever.
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It's be fruitful, be multiplied, pass on the wisdom to the next generation and then meet your maker.
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I think that arc has to happen. So messing with the plan, with God's plan, yes, I think it's going to happen.
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But, you know, you're supposed to live your best life and then you're supposed to move on.
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If we get to that point, which I think we will, at least in our lifetime, especially at the rate AI is going,
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I think if I have a big enough family and I continue to go with that pout, I would love to take it.
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What age would you like to live to, Efren? Pick your age.
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My age, I keep telling my kids I'll be 100 plus.
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I don't know about, depends how the world is going.
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I guess, yeah, it's, enjoy life when you have it.
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If you keep extending it and what life's going to be, what's the true meaning of life at that point?
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By the way, what if they find a way where that back pain goes away?
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The elbows, the shoulder, the neck, the peeing seven times a night, the bubbling you have to do.
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But what I'm saying is, forget about all of that.
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I'll tell you, if you want to be completely selfish, then yeah, live to 1,000.
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But if you want to see all your friends, your family, your kids all die and you're still alive, I got a major problem with that.
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And my grandmother, she just died at age 100 two weeks ago.
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I think she remembers my aunt and my uncle a little bit.
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And we all said, what a beautiful life she had.
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My other grandma, who's like my closest grandma, she's 94.
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She's way more cognitive than this other grandma.
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I already put the down payment on the party room.
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Because all your friends and family are going to die.
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But age 100, with all your family and kids and grandkids, that's a beautiful thing.
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But for a million dollars, they can make you look to the best version you can be and internally change organs, healthier, live longer.
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You know, if you have the resources, buy a younger heart, younger this, younger that.
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I would want a better – I mean, I have high blood pressure.
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You with the red face and the veins have high blood pressure?
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Adam, sitting next to you is the reason I get the red veins and the freaking face.
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Vinny, sitting next to you, my left eardrum is now non-existent.
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Well, first of all, God's not going to let us do anything of medicine that he doesn't want us to do.
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He says he knows the days and things, so I believe God's in control.
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I don't think we're going to get to, like, magic reversal, but I think we're going to get to a lot of life extension.
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I think we're going to get to a lot of things on cancer and a lot of things on life extension, Pat, where you age more slowly and you age better.
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I don't think we're going to be able to go into reverse.
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We do things like facelift and Botox and suddenly a 40-year-old person looks 32, 33, tighten up the skin and all that, and you can worry about that all day long.
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And there are some things you can do that way, but I think we're going to have slower aging and we're going to conquer certain diseases.
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But I'm like, you know, I am absolutely, you know, focused on 100, and I've actually more recently, because I look around how old will everybody be around me, I look at 110, and I say, and then I look at all the stats.
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You know, there's going to be 420,000 100-year-olds when I turn 100.
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So, forgive me if it's too personal, we all love your dad, Gabriel.
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Have you had that discussion with age 100, how long he'd want to live?
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It's not even a question, but there's a reason why God created it the way he did.
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I think there is, in the weirdest way, is certain experiences that bring pain, I think it's necessary.
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I think you need it because you need, you know, when I was coming up, I needed setback to humble me.
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You know, if I was a 22-year-old today, it would be a very different PBD people would be remembering me for.
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If I was 22, having nothing to lose, having nothing that's going on.
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Life was, I'm in debt, $49,000, you know, and then I'm with this company.
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I'm giving talks on yachts in Newport Beach, and I'm the poster child of this technology company that's coming out with this billionaire that is mentoring me in L.A.
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and I'm at his place in Newport all the time, beautiful $35 million home at that time.
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It's now a $100 million home out in water, beautiful, beautiful property.
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And then I'm like, man, I'm going to be this, I'm going to be that, and then boom, I lost it all.
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Girl leaves, friends are making fun of you because, you know, I thought you were going to be a millionaire.
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You know, I thought you were pulling up on a Ford Focus, that stick shift, no power windows, you know, the old school windows, the AC is a ghetto AC, car payment on the Focus is 228.
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And then you look at how everybody looks at you, and they have that smirk on their face.
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And then you're like, yeah, you're never going to look at me like that ever again.
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Then there's the pain to lose someone for you to realize why you have to be more grateful.
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You know, God teaches important relationships and friendships in a very weird way.
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He teaches you on how to be the benefits of being better at relationships in a very weird way.
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You may have a transactional mind, and you're like, well, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that.
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And you're like, no, man, you need relationships.
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You have to learn how to better build relationships.
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So to me, look, you know, with my dad, I asked God for one thing with dad many years ago when I was in the military.
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I just said, God, I want my kids to get to know him.
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And I want to, you know, the time that I didn't get with him when I was 10 to 12 years old, when my parents got a divorce and I lived in Germany.
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And then the next six years when I saw him one Saturday, Sunday, every other weekend, and then I go to the army for two and a half years, I don't see my city.
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I want to find a way to rekindle that relationship.
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And then how he lives with us the last five years, family, all of that.
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Yeah, there's a time for, there's a time really for everything, right?
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Like, we have to realize, you know, mourning happens.
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And sometimes it's a way of saying, hey, it's your time to step up.
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You know, people are relying on you to lead the family.
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I had one of my guys, when his father died, he called me one time.
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He was driving back from Lodi back to California.
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I said, listen, you can cry all you want with me on the phone right now.
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When you get in front of your family, everybody else can cry.
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And if you need to cry, step away, get in the car, come back.
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One person needs to carry the burden to family.
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One person needs to carry the burden to family.
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Cry privately as much as you want the next five hours.
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You need to officially be able to lead this family.
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And that's not an easy burden that comes with it.
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So I think that part that we fight, listen, it is what it is.
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But me, selfishly, if I had a mind, I want everybody to outlive me.
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Efren, maybe take a minute here and share with the audience how you ended up being on the podcast.
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Well, because right now my goal is to improve communication.
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