＂AI Needs To Be DISARMED＂ - The Pope's 13-Point AI Warning Is DARKER Than You Think
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The Pope says artificial intelligence needs to be disarmed. Does this mean we should all be worried about autonomous weapons? Or should we focus on the good things about AI, like protecting the environment, education, and the poor?
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the pope the pope comes out and drops a message about ai and it's not what you think but the pope
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comes out and says issues a warning about ai and autonomous weapons is this all the 13 points in
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this one minute and 19 seconds rap or is this just something he's saying there just something
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he's saying okay i do have the 13 points okay go to that and then we'll go to the 13 points
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here's the pope the leader of roughly what is it 1.4 billion people umberto am i saying it
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and growing and growing 1.4 they've been flat last couple years but they've been growing the last
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12 months on what they're doing but here's the pope go ahead rob official intelligence needs to
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be disarmed the word is strong i know but deliberately chosen because this moment
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The church has long been working for nuclear disarmament,
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and so must be accompanied by adequate moral discernment
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In a similar sense, artificial intelligence now demands to be disarmed, freed from logics
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AI needs to be disarmed, said by one of the most powerful men in the world, the Pope.
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Comment in the comment section of what he's saying here with the points.
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I think he's making very good points, but I want to open it up, and I hope there's some
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disagreements here to see different angles. Number one, AI must serve humanity, not replace it. Okay,
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common sense. Number two, human intelligence is unique. The Pope argued AI can process information
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but cannot truly possess conscious, empathy, moral judgment, wonder, or a soul. Number three,
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big tech concentration is dangerous. He warned against a handful of companies controlling
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the future of intelligence and data. Number four, AI needs strong regulation. He called for
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democratic oversight and international guardrails instead of self-regulation by tech companies.
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Many would disagree with that in the tech industry.
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He warned governments to prepare for labor disruption and protect workers displaced by
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Six, workers must not be treated like machines.
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He repeatedly connected AI to worker dignity, similar to how Pope Leo XIII addressed the
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Number seven, AI-generated misinformation threatens democracy.
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He warned about deepfakes, manipulation, propaganda, and the collapse of trust in truth itself.
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One of the strongest warnings about autonomous warfare and AI-directed weapon systems.
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Number nine, children's development must be protected.
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He warned AI and screen could damage critical thinking, emotional development, attention span, and interpersonal growth in young people.
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He argued AI systems inherit the values and biases of the people who build them.
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Twelve human relationships matter more than efficiency.
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And last but not least, society must choose between power and dignity.
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The Pope framed AI as a civilizational crossroads.
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I think it makes some, and it's very funny that the last pope during a big, you know, the Industrial Revolution, his name was Leo as well.
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You have all this San Francisco, some of them, they're not my favorite people, injecting their moral standards to AI.
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There's a few AI-based religions that have this.
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Some of the bigger points, I think them, you know, not having AI-controlled weapons.
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I think human life, I might be on the wrong, but human life is too valuable for an algorithm to decide between life or death.
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Like we can't let AI, we can't get to the point.
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And it's very possible that we'll get to the point that we start serving AI.
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I don't know if you guys seen, there's an app where AI can hire you to do human jobs.
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We're getting to that point and we're getting very close.
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Now about the oversight part, it's just so difficult.
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Personally, I think we're in an arms race with every country.
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So if we get moral and stop doing something, somebody else will do it.
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Calling for prudence, rigorous evaluation, and at times a slower pace in adopting the Internet does not mean opposing its progress.
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Quote, it is essential that the use of the Internet, especially when it touches our public and our children and public goods and fundamental rights, be guided by clear criteria and effective oversight.
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I took two quotes and I removed AI and he used the word Internet.
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So I think that there's some things he's saying that maybe have some merit and some time for consideration, but every technological leap has included this.
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Now, I will tell you that AI is very significant.
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I believe we need certain guardrails on it, and we're seeing what happened.
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And I think having the sensing technologies out there to make sure that you're not plagiarizing or you're not cheating on an exam or that those photos that you created of your political opponent are fake, I think that there's an underlying point that the pope is making that everybody else is making like about deep fakes.
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Like, if we think we have enemies now, Pat, just wait another year for things to advance.
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You and me are going to be shown in pictures dating back to the 80s, saying terrible things, doing terrible things.
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And on that day, it'll be very important that the opposite technologies are out there to ensure that we can say, wait a minute, wait a minute, that's fake.
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And I think the Pope is making good points about that stuff.
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Jeff, by the way, before I come to you, I'm going to come to you, Rob.
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One is the tweet by David Sachs, which I shared.
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He says, how are job postings for software engineers rising rapidly despite agents' automated coding?
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Because there's far more code to manage than ever before.
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We're already seeing a 14x year-over-year increasing GitHub comments, and it's accelerating.
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Click on that link, Rob, to make that image bigger.
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The baby blue, the light blue is Indeed job posting software engineers.
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So you notice the number of jobs specifically for software engineers is skyrocketing back up.
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It went down March 25, May 25, and then all of a sudden it's like, no, we need these guys.
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It's like when they start, hey, GLP-1s, you know, three-year research shows it's so good for you.
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There was a book that came out about steroids 40, 50 years ago.
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It was called The Steroids Bible, and they had edition one, two, three, four.
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Well, you need decades and decades of research to be able to see, so we don't know yet.
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But this highlights that it's not as bad as people think it is.
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Having said that, Rob, go to the clip about David Sachs, what he said would have happened if Kamala Harris was in with data centers and AI.
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AI, I think we're really lucky that he's the president who's in the White House when this AI revolution is happening.
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I mean, due in old history, Sachs, what would happen if Kamala Ding Dong was in right now and we'd have like no data centers?
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We'd have no data centers and they'd be using AI to censor us and they'd be promoting DEI values through AI that was in the Biden executive order.
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president trump just wants the country to win and be successful and he doesn't have these like
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doomer neuroses about it that's not to say we don't support any regulation at all but we should
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have specific solutions for specific problems as opposed to being cowering in fear over this and
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just trying to call to all progress so that's the complete opposite so there is a very big
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there's a big argument right now between two sides on what could happen jeff what are your
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thoughts on this? I don't necessarily think there's two sides to it. I think there's a ton
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of nuance here. On the economic part of it, I mean, what Tom showed exactly, you pointed out
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with the internet. The internet, people were worried about the internet. I mean, people have
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been talking about robot takeover since the Civil War. Every new technological wave that we go
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through unleashes a period of almost mass hysteria. And it's understandable because the world
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completely changes. However, on the economic side of it, what you're seeing with the programmers
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is exactly what we should expect from AI and the economic side.
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The more productive people and businesses become,
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the more activity we have, the more economic growth we have.
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Now, I'll go on the complete opposite side, the politics side of it.
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You know, we've got a bunch of autonomous robots running around.
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How easy would it be to arm one and then have complete plausible deniability
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There's definitely some guardrails, as Tom said, that needs to be put up here.
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how do you regulate that how do we get together and say we're going to we're going to make sure
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that ai can never be armed i'm sorry you can't do that it's just impractical um so there's a there's
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a whole ton of nuance here it's not one side what is that and who defines that yeah exactly and then
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right and once you once you oh we're gonna hate speech and all of a sudden right we're what new
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president oh yeah we're gonna set up we're gonna set up a government board opinion anymore that's
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hate speech we're going to set up a government board that decides what qualifies as bad ai and
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then that government board is going to be taken over by various different factions through time
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and the definitions are always going to change so i mean there is a number of issues that need
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to be worked out but they're going to be solved not by from the not from the top down but from
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the bottom up i i i agree with both like i couldn't agree more with david sacks david sacks
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like the thing is can you imagine a scenario where this this technology is emerging it was
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but we should have some basic laws and understanding that we should agree on.
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This is one way to describe it to the average person so they don't panic.
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If you live in the state of Florida, what percentage of people in Florida, Rob, carry, okay, have a license to carry?
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What percentage of people in Florida have a license?
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Matter of fact, type in the top five biggest states with license to carry.
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Well, right now in Florida, you don't need a license to carry.
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Top five states, Florida, the clear leader with 2.5 million active residents, concealed weapon license,
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permits are valid for seven years, and offer broad reciprocity.
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And then you get Alabama, which, by the way, we're in this state with the most people licensed to carry.
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How often do you go to restaurants and you panic?
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Do you know what are the chances of a person at a restaurant carrying a gun with them?
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How come we're not that worried about the guns that people are carrying in certain states?
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But the difference is I'm the one that's deciding what to do with this gun, right?
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The conversation you just brought up with the point that if Jeff gives me the
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so imagine Jeff comes to the podcast here with 20 robots around him, right?
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And one of the robots all of a sudden has a glitch,
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and he whispers something to the robot, and the robot's going around
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You're the one that's getting it to think this way.
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So it's going to be very interesting when we go in that direction because it's like the conversation and the debate that we have that if a young kid does something, the parents should be held liable.
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You know that debate that some states, I don't know which one it was, where one of the kids went and killed three different kids, and then his parents were going to jail.
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This transition period is going to be messy because we're going to have to adopt new customs, new laws, new forms of responsibility.
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Because, you know, my robot comes in and starts wrecking the place.
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I'm telling you right now, in advance, just be ready for it.
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If you go back to guns, like, you're personally liable for anything that comes out of your gun.
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You know, like, if you're a felon, you can't carry one.
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So I think we're going to get to the same level of regulation eventually,
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When the left gets in, the regulation you're going to see with them.
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