Valuetainment - May 30, 2026


＂AI Needs To Be DISARMED＂ - The Pope's 13-Point AI Warning Is DARKER Than You Think


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00:00:30.000 the pope the pope comes out and drops a message about ai and it's not what you think but the pope
00:00:38.900 comes out and says issues a warning about ai and autonomous weapons is this all the 13 points in
00:00:46.480 this one minute and 19 seconds rap or is this just something he's saying there just something
00:00:50.000 he's saying okay i do have the 13 points okay go to that and then we'll go to the 13 points
00:00:53.740 here's the pope the leader of roughly what is it 1.4 billion people umberto am i saying it
00:00:59.880 and growing and growing 1.4 they've been flat last couple years but they've been growing the last
00:01:04.440 12 months on what they're doing but here's the pope go ahead rob official intelligence needs to
00:01:10.740 be disarmed the word is strong i know but deliberately chosen because this moment
00:01:17.980 needs words capable of attracting attention,
00:01:21.500 awakening consciences,
00:01:23.800 and indicating paths forward for humanity.
00:01:28.340 The church has long been working for nuclear disarmament,
00:01:32.300 aware that every great technical power
00:01:34.700 can affect people's lives
00:01:36.180 and so must be accompanied by adequate moral discernment
00:01:40.220 and public control.
00:01:43.080 Nuclear disarmament remains a service to peace
00:01:45.780 and the dignity of the human family.
00:01:47.980 In a similar sense, artificial intelligence now demands to be disarmed, freed from logics
00:01:56.660 that turn it into an instrument of domination.
00:01:59.200 AI needs to be disarmed, said by one of the most powerful men in the world, the Pope.
00:02:07.220 And here's what he said.
00:02:08.180 I'll read him.
00:02:09.420 And I want to get your thoughts.
00:02:10.880 Comment in the comment section of what he's saying here with the points.
00:02:13.400 I think he's making very good points, but I want to open it up, and I hope there's some
00:02:16.800 disagreements here to see different angles. Number one, AI must serve humanity, not replace it. Okay,
00:02:22.960 common sense. Number two, human intelligence is unique. The Pope argued AI can process information
00:02:27.960 but cannot truly possess conscious, empathy, moral judgment, wonder, or a soul. Number three,
00:02:34.820 big tech concentration is dangerous. He warned against a handful of companies controlling
00:02:39.000 the future of intelligence and data. Number four, AI needs strong regulation. He called for
00:02:44.440 democratic oversight and international guardrails instead of self-regulation by tech companies.
00:02:50.260 Some people would disagree with that.
00:02:52.400 Many would disagree with that in the tech industry.
00:02:55.360 AI could destroy jobs at massive scale.
00:02:58.000 He warned governments to prepare for labor disruption and protect workers displaced by
00:03:02.540 automation.
00:03:03.000 Six, workers must not be treated like machines.
00:03:06.600 He repeatedly connected AI to worker dignity, similar to how Pope Leo XIII addressed the
00:03:12.260 Industrial Revolution in the 1890s.
00:03:14.440 Number seven, AI-generated misinformation threatens democracy.
00:03:18.380 He warned about deepfakes, manipulation, propaganda, and the collapse of trust in truth itself.
00:03:23.060 Okay, we know that.
00:03:24.280 Eight, AI weapons could become uncontrollable.
00:03:27.480 One of the strongest warnings about autonomous warfare and AI-directed weapon systems.
00:03:31.740 Number nine, children's development must be protected.
00:03:34.520 He warned AI and screen could damage critical thinking, emotional development, attention span, and interpersonal growth in young people.
00:03:41.100 Number 10, AI must not become a new religion.
00:03:44.500 Number 11, algorithms are not neutral.
00:03:47.380 He argued AI systems inherit the values and biases of the people who build them.
00:03:51.940 True.
00:03:52.520 Twelve human relationships matter more than efficiency.
00:03:55.700 And last but not least, society must choose between power and dignity.
00:03:59.980 The Pope framed AI as a civilizational crossroads.
00:04:04.700 Humberto, your thoughts on this?
00:04:05.800 I think it makes some, and it's very funny that the last pope during a big, you know, the Industrial Revolution, his name was Leo as well.
00:04:15.580 I think he makes some very valid points.
00:04:17.960 For example, the morality part to AI.
00:04:21.880 You can't rely on AI for morality.
00:04:23.840 You have all this San Francisco, some of them, they're not my favorite people, injecting their moral standards to AI.
00:04:31.000 You know what I mean?
00:04:32.560 Creating new religions.
00:04:33.760 There's a few AI-based religions that have this.
00:04:37.100 Some of the bigger points, I think them, you know, not having AI-controlled weapons.
00:04:42.520 I think human life, I might be on the wrong, but human life is too valuable for an algorithm to decide between life or death.
00:04:50.840 What else did he say?
00:04:51.940 Like, AI must serve humanity.
00:04:54.240 I think that's the main point right here.
00:04:56.340 Like we can't let AI, we can't get to the point.
00:05:01.140 And it's very possible that we'll get to the point that we start serving AI.
00:05:04.040 I don't know if you guys seen, there's an app where AI can hire you to do human jobs.
00:05:09.920 We're getting to that point and we're getting very close.
00:05:12.400 Now about the oversight part, it's just so difficult.
00:05:16.440 Personally, I think we're in an arms race with every country.
00:05:19.820 So if we get moral and stop doing something, somebody else will do it.
00:05:23.860 Who disagrees? Who disagrees with the Pope?
00:05:25.360 Do you disagree with him?
00:05:26.220 Do you agree with him, Tom?
00:05:27.780 Can I reread one of his quotes?
00:05:29.300 Yeah, of course.
00:05:30.440 Calling for prudence, rigorous evaluation, and at times a slower pace in adopting the Internet does not mean opposing its progress.
00:05:38.400 Quote, it is essential that the use of the Internet, especially when it touches our public and our children and public goods and fundamental rights, be guided by clear criteria and effective oversight.
00:05:48.120 You see what I just did?
00:05:49.040 I took two quotes and I removed AI and he used the word Internet.
00:05:51.940 So I think that there's some things he's saying that maybe have some merit and some time for consideration, but every technological leap has included this.
00:06:01.680 Now, I will tell you that AI is very significant.
00:06:05.540 I believe we need certain guardrails on it, and we're seeing what happened.
00:06:09.040 And I think having the sensing technologies out there to make sure that you're not plagiarizing or you're not cheating on an exam or that those photos that you created of your political opponent are fake, I think that there's an underlying point that the pope is making that everybody else is making like about deep fakes.
00:06:29.120 Like, if we think we have enemies now, Pat, just wait another year for things to advance.
00:06:33.600 You and me are going to be shown in pictures dating back to the 80s, saying terrible things, doing terrible things.
00:06:39.120 And on that day, it'll be very important that the opposite technologies are out there to ensure that we can say, wait a minute, wait a minute, that's fake.
00:06:45.820 That's not, yeah.
00:06:46.560 And I think the Pope is making good points about that stuff.
00:06:49.340 But there's also a, here we go again.
00:06:51.300 Jeff, by the way, before I come to you, I'm going to come to you, Rob.
00:06:53.880 I want you to see this here.
00:06:55.140 Pull up the two things I just sent you.
00:06:56.540 One is the tweet by David Sachs, which I shared.
00:07:00.340 He says, how are job postings for software engineers rising rapidly despite agents' automated coding?
00:07:07.020 Because there's far more code to manage than ever before.
00:07:10.740 We're already seeing a 14x year-over-year increasing GitHub comments, and it's accelerating.
00:07:16.400 Click on that link, Rob, to make that image bigger.
00:07:19.600 Watch this.
00:07:20.080 And GitHub is the storage of a new program.
00:07:22.260 The baby blue, the light blue is Indeed job posting software engineers.
00:07:27.540 The dark blue is overall Indeed job posting.
00:07:30.480 So any job than that.
00:07:32.320 So you notice the number of jobs specifically for software engineers is skyrocketing back up.
00:07:39.840 It went down March 25, May 25, and then all of a sudden it's like, no, we need these guys.
00:07:45.340 Now, it's too early to tell.
00:07:47.880 It's like when they start, hey, GLP-1s, you know, three-year research shows it's so good for you.
00:07:52.860 We don't have a 20-year research.
00:07:54.200 We don't have a 10-year research.
00:07:55.180 We don't have a 30-year research.
00:07:56.300 There was a book that came out about steroids 40, 50 years ago.
00:07:59.480 It was called The Steroids Bible, and they had edition one, two, three, four.
00:08:02.860 Studies show that it's very good for you.
00:08:04.560 Well, you need decades and decades of research to be able to see, so we don't know yet.
00:08:08.460 But this highlights that it's not as bad as people think it is.
00:08:11.620 It's actually creating new jobs.
00:08:13.740 Having said that, Rob, go to the clip about David Sachs, what he said would have happened if Kamala Harris was in with data centers and AI.
00:08:20.800 Go ahead.
00:08:21.820 AI, I think we're really lucky that he's the president who's in the White House when this AI revolution is happening.
00:08:27.800 I mean, due in old history, Sachs, what would happen if Kamala Ding Dong was in right now and we'd have like no data centers?
00:08:34.360 We'd have no data centers and they'd be using AI to censor us and they'd be promoting DEI values through AI that was in the Biden executive order.
00:08:41.900 president trump just wants the country to win and be successful and he doesn't have these like
00:08:47.780 doomer neuroses about it that's not to say we don't support any regulation at all but we should
00:08:54.420 have specific solutions for specific problems as opposed to being cowering in fear over this and
00:09:00.420 just trying to call to all progress so that's the complete opposite so there is a very big
00:09:05.220 there's a big argument right now between two sides on what could happen jeff what are your
00:09:09.180 thoughts on this? I don't necessarily think there's two sides to it. I think there's a ton
00:09:12.520 of nuance here. On the economic part of it, I mean, what Tom showed exactly, you pointed out
00:09:17.220 with the internet. The internet, people were worried about the internet. I mean, people have
00:09:20.540 been talking about robot takeover since the Civil War. Every new technological wave that we go
00:09:26.040 through unleashes a period of almost mass hysteria. And it's understandable because the world
00:09:30.960 completely changes. However, on the economic side of it, what you're seeing with the programmers
00:09:35.800 is exactly what we should expect from AI and the economic side.
00:09:38.640 It makes people more productive.
00:09:40.360 The more productive people and businesses become,
00:09:43.280 the more activity we have, the more economic growth we have.
00:09:45.900 That's the good side of AI.
00:09:47.800 Now, I'll go on the complete opposite side, the politics side of it.
00:09:51.140 You know, we've got a bunch of autonomous robots running around.
00:09:53.520 How easy would it be to arm one and then have complete plausible deniability
00:09:57.300 when you say, go murder my neighbor?
00:09:59.320 There's definitely some guardrails, as Tom said, that needs to be put up here.
00:10:02.600 However, there's another argument there, too.
00:10:04.580 how do you regulate that how do we get together and say we're going to we're going to make sure
00:10:09.960 that ai can never be armed i'm sorry you can't do that it's just impractical um so there's a there's
00:10:15.540 a whole ton of nuance here it's not one side what is that and who defines that yeah exactly and then
00:10:21.020 right and once you once you oh we're gonna hate speech and all of a sudden right we're what new
00:10:25.700 president oh yeah we're gonna set up we're gonna set up a government board opinion anymore that's
00:10:30.120 hate speech we're going to set up a government board that decides what qualifies as bad ai and
00:10:35.060 then that government board is going to be taken over by various different factions through time
00:10:38.540 and the definitions are always going to change so i mean there is a number of issues that need
00:10:42.880 to be worked out but they're going to be solved not by from the not from the top down but from
00:10:46.500 the bottom up i i i agree with both like i couldn't agree more with david sacks david sacks
00:10:52.220 like the thing is can you imagine a scenario where this this technology is emerging it was
00:10:57.520 under another administration.
00:10:58.800 The level of censorship
00:10:59.960 and the level of virtual signaling
00:11:02.200 that it would be coded into AI.
00:11:04.540 And this is forever
00:11:05.360 because it's generative.
00:11:06.640 Whatever seed you put in there,
00:11:08.460 it just drags on forever.
00:11:10.160 You can't undo things there.
00:11:11.620 You can always progress forward.
00:11:14.340 And when it comes to the laws,
00:11:15.420 I don't know if you guys know
00:11:16.160 the Asimov laws of robotics.
00:11:18.780 Yeah.
00:11:19.260 What, Isaac Asimov?
00:11:20.400 Yeah, on iRobot.
00:11:22.800 Like a robot can never hurt a human being.
00:11:25.080 I don't know if we can put guardrails in,
00:11:27.060 but we should have some basic laws and understanding that we should agree on.
00:11:32.300 You know what I mean?
00:11:32.740 You know what is crazy?
00:11:33.940 Think about it this way.
00:11:34.920 This is one way to describe it to the average person so they don't panic.
00:11:39.080 If you live in the state of Florida, what percentage of people in Florida, Rob, carry, okay, have a license to carry?
00:11:47.020 What percentage of people in Florida have a license?
00:11:48.920 Matter of fact, type in the top five biggest states with license to carry.
00:11:52.140 Well, right now in Florida, you don't need a license to carry.
00:11:54.340 It's constitutional carry.
00:11:55.660 Perfect.
00:11:55.980 So let's just look at this.
00:11:57.180 Top five states, Florida, the clear leader with 2.5 million active residents, concealed weapon license,
00:12:03.100 permits are valid for seven years, and offer broad reciprocity.
00:12:06.800 Texas, more than 1.2 million.
00:12:08.640 Pennsylvania, 1.28 million.
00:12:10.180 Georgia, 1.1 million.
00:12:11.280 And then you get Alabama, which, by the way, we're in this state with the most people licensed to carry.
00:12:15.840 How often do you go to restaurants and you panic?
00:12:18.440 Never.
00:12:19.060 How often do you go to restaurants?
00:12:20.060 Do you know what are the chances of a person at a restaurant carrying a gun with them?
00:12:24.880 When I'm going to a restaurant, I'm carrying.
00:12:27.160 When we go, we're carrying all the time.
00:12:28.800 So how worried are you?
00:12:30.520 Are people emotional human beings?
00:12:32.920 Very.
00:12:33.440 People are emotional human beings.
00:12:34.740 Maybe they get into an argument.
00:12:35.760 Maybe they had a bad day.
00:12:37.360 How come we're not that worried about the guns that people are carrying in certain states?
00:12:42.260 What does that do?
00:12:43.520 So then that goes to the robot part.
00:12:45.580 But the difference is I'm the one that's deciding what to do with this gun, right?
00:12:51.640 The conversation you just brought up with the point that if Jeff gives me the
00:12:56.180 vibes of one day owning 20 robots, okay,
00:12:58.300 so imagine Jeff comes to the podcast here with 20 robots around him, right?
00:13:01.700 And that's a security, let's just say.
00:13:03.680 And one of the robots all of a sudden has a glitch,
00:13:06.540 and he whispers something to the robot, and the robot's going around
00:13:09.220 dropping N-words, okay?
00:13:11.220 And he says, I didn't say it. 0.56
00:13:12.500 The robot said it.
00:13:13.640 And I'm like, no, no, that's your robot.
00:13:15.300 No, no, that's not what I said.
00:13:16.340 The robot said it.
00:13:17.160 But you're the programmer.
00:13:18.900 You're the brain.
00:13:19.800 You're the one that's getting it to think this way.
00:13:21.420 Why did it hit the window?
00:13:22.540 I didn't do it.
00:13:23.180 My robot did it.
00:13:24.340 I didn't do it.
00:13:24.900 So it's going to be very interesting when we go in that direction because it's like the conversation and the debate that we have that if a young kid does something, the parents should be held liable.
00:13:36.560 You know that debate that some states, I don't know which one it was, where one of the kids went and killed three different kids, and then his parents were going to jail.
00:13:43.680 Was it Michigan?
00:13:44.360 Yeah.
00:13:44.740 His parents were going to jail.
00:13:46.060 Wait a minute.
00:13:46.560 What are you talking about, right?
00:13:47.980 This transition period is going to be messy because we're going to have to adopt new customs, new laws, new forms of responsibility.
00:13:55.460 Because, you know, my robot comes in and starts wrecking the place.
00:13:58.480 Am I responsible for the robot?
00:13:59.720 Well, we need to settle that.
00:14:01.240 I'm telling you right now, in advance, just be ready for it.
00:14:03.280 If you go back to guns, like, you're personally liable for anything that comes out of your gun.
00:14:08.260 That's why they have serial numbers.
00:14:09.700 You register them.
00:14:11.000 They're under your name.
00:14:12.220 You can't let a friend borrow it.
00:14:13.680 You know, like, if you're a felon, you can't carry one.
00:14:16.020 So I think we're going to get to the same level of regulation eventually,
00:14:19.060 but it's going to be very messy.
00:14:20.280 It's going to be messy.
00:14:21.420 When the left gets in, the regulation you're going to see with them.
00:14:25.040 So the reason why all these guys are playing offense the way they are right now
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