Valuetainment - December 24, 2025


＂Aisha Was Not Married At A Young Age＂ - Muslim Cleric SLAMS Prophet Muhammad Myths & Quran Lies


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Length

10 minutes

Words per Minute

160.20306

Word Count

1,662

Sentence Count

165

Hate Speech Sentences

17


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In this episode, we discuss the life and legacy of Mufti Muhammad and how he changed the course of Islamic thought in the modern era. We talk about his impact on the culture of his time and the impact of his teachings on the world at large.

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00:00:00.000 What do you admire about him the most?
00:00:02.680 Everything.
00:00:03.840 Please unpack that.
00:00:05.020 Okay.
00:00:06.960 The Muhammad that the West has been introduced to is not our Muhammad, the Muhammad of the Quran.
00:00:16.180 Very important.
00:00:17.660 And please, Patrick, ask me any question.
00:00:21.180 And if you feel I haven't answered you, please go back and make sure that you're satisfied with my answer.
00:00:27.660 I'm not here to evade anything, so please.
00:00:32.780 Just so you know, you don't give me that vibe at all.
00:00:34.460 Okay.
00:00:34.800 You don't even have to explain yourself.
00:00:36.240 Thank you.
00:00:36.680 Thank you.
00:00:38.960 Arabia needed monotheism.
00:00:42.900 This was a society that was worshipping dates and stones and burying their daughters alive, worshipping idols.
00:00:50.940 The tradition of Abraham was corrupted in Arabia.
00:00:54.780 We call this the time of ignorance, Zaman al-Jahiliyyah.
00:00:59.840 God sent a man, we believe, in the same way he sent Moses and Jesus.
00:01:04.860 His name is Muhammad.
00:01:06.860 He sent him to Arabia, not to start a new religion, but to continue the religion of previous prophets.
00:01:14.740 Moses being, you know, the final Jewish prophet and Jesus being the messenger for the Christians.
00:01:26.280 Now, you may believe him to be the son of God.
00:01:29.700 I see him as a prophet of God.
00:01:32.440 But what we agree upon is that he was a messenger of God.
00:01:36.400 What he came with came from God, came from the, you call him the father, I call him Allah.
00:01:43.920 The prophet Muhammad, you may read the Quran that he came down with.
00:01:49.000 And we say he came with, but it was revealed to him.
00:01:53.020 So it did not come down as a tablet.
00:01:55.620 It came down as verse by verse or certain verses together.
00:01:59.240 His focus in Arabia was monotheism.
00:02:03.640 Who is God?
00:02:05.100 Who is our creator and our responsibility towards him?
00:02:08.580 That's it.
00:02:09.540 That is the main fundamental pillar of the message of the prophet.
00:02:13.820 Do not worship idols.
00:02:15.460 Do not worship idols that you create with your own hands.
00:02:18.220 And when you get hungry, you eat them out of dates and so on.
00:02:22.120 Do not have sexual relations with your parents.
00:02:26.680 Do not kill your parents.
00:02:28.120 Do not murder the innocent, for example.
00:02:31.900 Respect the basic Noahide laws.
00:02:35.000 This is exactly what our prophet advocated for.
00:02:38.180 Then there is a development of a religion.
00:02:41.500 That is where it gets more interesting.
00:02:44.340 Because it all goes back to those people following the prophet Muhammad.
00:02:50.700 The prophet Muhammad was born in 570.
00:02:54.760 He passed away in 632.
00:02:58.120 He was a prophet for 23 years.
00:03:01.820 In 23 years, all of his battles were defensive.
00:03:06.580 And you can look this up as I'm speaking.
00:03:08.180 They were all defensive.
00:03:10.540 And we can speak about treatment of Christians, of Jews, of any group.
00:03:15.160 Ask me any question.
00:03:16.560 I'll tell you this.
00:03:17.300 But before we do so, I want to just point to a book that I think is valuable just for context.
00:03:23.840 By John Tolan.
00:03:25.720 The Faces of Muhammad.
00:03:30.640 Right.
00:03:31.120 So, this book shows you that the West itself.
00:03:37.580 In this book, the author, Mr. Tolan, speaks about the faces of Muhammad in the West.
00:03:45.240 Muhammad during the medieval era.
00:03:47.220 How did the Western world view him?
00:03:49.180 Muhammad during the Reformation era.
00:03:51.640 Muhammad during the Enlightenment era.
00:03:53.340 So, when you ask me about my prophet, this question is coming from the developments and events happening in our time.
00:04:06.120 Muhammad was never looked at in a single way by the West.
00:04:09.360 He was looked at as Muhammad the businessman.
00:04:12.480 Muhammad the poet.
00:04:14.380 Muhammad the warrior.
00:04:15.940 Muhammad the father.
00:04:17.100 The father of orphans.
00:04:18.320 Muhammad the statesman.
00:04:20.040 Right.
00:04:20.880 So, when I speak about the prophet Muhammad, I'll tell you this.
00:04:25.640 He was a man sent by God to Arabia to guide them towards monotheism and ethics.
00:04:33.120 That's it.
00:04:34.640 That is who he was.
00:04:36.040 That's what his mission was.
00:04:37.860 And that is exactly what the Quran focuses on.
00:04:41.680 But, yes, it's a book that speaks to a developing community.
00:04:46.360 There's going to be conflict.
00:04:47.880 There's going to be war.
00:04:48.820 And there's going to be peace.
00:04:50.460 There's going to be a lot of difficult conversations to be had.
00:04:53.520 And we should not shy away from them.
00:04:56.100 What's the most difficult part of the Quran that you had to accept?
00:05:00.780 No, I accepted all with no difficulty.
00:05:02.740 None of it?
00:05:03.220 No, because there's no question you can ask me that I do not have a rational answer for.
00:05:06.760 The most basic one I'll go to that you've probably been asked a million times that you know of.
00:05:11.300 So, Aisha, how do you process that?
00:05:13.220 Aisha was not married to the prophet at a young age.
00:05:16.980 She was an adult.
00:05:18.600 And I've heard you say this before.
00:05:20.140 She was an adult.
00:05:20.740 Do you know how many people who are Islam, Muslim scholars, who do the complete opposite, who don't even debate it?
00:05:31.160 Right.
00:05:31.340 But you debate it.
00:05:31.960 They're preachers.
00:05:32.940 They're not imams.
00:05:34.180 They are preachers.
00:05:35.700 The son of an imam is not an imam.
00:05:37.360 Just because your dad has a mosque and leads prayers and gives you the microphone to speak, it does not make you a theologian.
00:05:44.420 If the average person goes and checks to see, by the way, let's do this.
00:05:48.500 Let me ask the question in a different way.
00:05:50.060 Right.
00:05:50.520 If he did marry Aisha at six, if he did consummate at nine, would you still be a Muslim?
00:05:56.480 The thing is, he would never do that.
00:05:58.120 No, but here's a different question I'm asking.
00:05:59.740 Right.
00:06:00.040 He would never do that.
00:06:00.980 I'm not asking that question.
00:06:02.540 If your prophet, if, this is an if, it's a key word, if he did marry a six-year-old, if he did consummate, which means, you know, have sex with somebody at nine, that some people would, you know, define that as rape.
00:06:17.160 They wouldn't even consider that as sex.
00:06:19.600 If he did, would you still be a Muslim?
00:06:21.900 Would you still see yourself as a Muslim yourself?
00:06:24.340 Patrick, I'm not running away from the question.
00:06:27.060 I swear on my life and on my mother's life.
00:06:30.740 I'm telling you, when you say prophet, to me, it means an infallible being that does not make a mistake or make error.
00:06:38.420 It doesn't make sense.
00:06:39.680 Then let me ask the question in a different way, okay?
00:06:45.640 You're born into a family that is non-religious at all.
00:06:52.780 You have to find your own way.
00:06:54.640 It's not third-generation imam.
00:06:57.060 They're not Muslim, but it's not atheists.
00:06:59.660 Maybe it's agnostic.
00:07:01.380 You go pick and choose and find your own.
00:07:03.760 Not Christian, not Presbyterian, not Jehovah, not nothing, right?
00:07:07.940 I would eventually end up as Muslim.
00:07:10.120 You say that.
00:07:11.020 You say that.
00:07:11.760 You say that now.
00:07:12.840 And, you know, I understand saying that.
00:07:16.820 You know, I would also say I would end up being a Christian myself.
00:07:20.720 And I would say that.
00:07:22.280 But neither one of us know that for a fact.
00:07:24.200 We can play that and say yes, but I get the positioning of you having faith in what you're saying.
00:07:29.540 If we put something on a board, facts of each religion out there, let's name one of them the religion of whatever.
00:07:40.900 But the founder of that religion, who was admired by a couple billion people.
00:07:46.620 If it was factually proven that he married someone at six and they had sex at nine, would you ever consider that religion?
00:07:55.880 If, I didn't say Muslim.
00:07:57.920 I said, if it was proven that the founder had done that, would you ever accept that religion?
00:08:01.880 No, of course not.
00:08:02.720 You wouldn't?
00:08:03.280 No.
00:08:03.580 Okay, beautiful.
00:08:04.600 But, again, the prophet for us, when you say Muhammad, you know what I process?
00:08:10.720 An infallible human being that does not make mistakes at all or any error.
00:08:15.580 So, it's impossible that he would make such a decision.
00:08:19.660 And, plus, the issue of Aisha, you have to weigh it against the society and the dates around her.
00:08:28.520 She was born after her sister Asma and she died before Asma.
00:08:33.020 And, I have it in a study which I can definitely send you.
00:08:36.380 She was either 18, from 18 to 21 years old.
00:08:41.500 There is no Muslim consensus that Aisha was three or six or nine or 15.
00:08:47.180 There are more popular opinions because there is a state behind the publications promoting them.
00:08:55.960 Yes, that I accept.
00:08:57.720 But, again, with all due respect, if you put a book in front of me, a history book,
00:09:02.960 and you tell me this book was authored by a very respected man, you know what I'll tell you?
00:09:08.340 I'll tell you with all due respect, Brother Patrick, I know you gave me a book.
00:09:12.760 You put a book in front of me.
00:09:14.080 But, God gave me a brain, and I can do mathematics, and I can understand exactly when she was born, where she was.
00:09:21.840 It's not hard to work it out.
00:09:24.120 Well...
00:09:24.620 18 to 21.
00:09:25.940 Okay.
00:09:26.340 Final verdict.
00:09:27.200 According to your opinion, it's 18 to 21, right?
00:09:30.840 According to your opinion.
00:09:31.680 But, I have Islamic sources for it.
00:09:33.740 But, those are also sources.
00:09:35.280 But, they are...
00:09:36.080 So, the two sources are debating each other.
00:09:37.800 Again, a source is measured and is judged based on the author, and based on the credibility of the source.
00:09:48.020 So, when you're telling me that she was...
00:09:50.740 It's narrated that she's 6 or 9, I understand where that comes from.
00:09:54.520 And, I can also tell you that book is banned in certain countries.
00:09:57.640 So, that's the same book for...
00:09:58.960 And, I don't want to mention...
00:10:00.780 I don't want to offend X percent of Muslims by saying this.
00:10:06.100 But, I'll tell you this.
00:10:07.820 If a book is rejected because it was relied upon by ISIS, it should also be rejected if it tells you that Aisha was 6 and that my prophet was a rapist.
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