Valuetainment - July 14, 2025


＂Always An Outsider＂ - Eric Adams BREAKS SILENCE On Turkey Bribery Scandal & 33 Year Prison Sentence


Episode Stats

Length

12 minutes

Words per Minute

198.30334

Word Count

2,509

Sentence Count

197

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Former New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio joins Jemele to discuss why he left the Democratic Party and why he decided to run for President. He also talks about why he chose to leave the party and why it s time for him to run again.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 What I notice a pattern with New York City politics is, so, you know, Andrew Cuomo, governor, two-term, father, three-term, brother, CNN, right?
00:00:11.540 So he's there, he's doing his governor thing, and I think Andrew may have even been three-terms, I think it's two-terms, two-terms, yeah.
00:00:18.380 And at first, COVID happens, we have to hear him every day, and he was on TV every day.
00:00:24.240 Remember when he's doing all the updates, he's eating his burgers or whatever he was doing, and we're getting the update.
00:00:27.940 This guy's going to be the president, he'd be better than Trump, right?
00:00:31.780 And then all of a sudden, he started calling out a little bit of the left.
00:00:35.100 And then de Blasio was, and AOC went against Amazon, and, oh, we don't want Amazon.
00:00:40.500 It's like, wait a minute, Woody, that's 25,000 jobs at $150,000 salary.
00:00:44.380 What are you guys talking about?
00:00:45.260 Let them come in.
00:00:45.780 No, they're going to increase the rent and da-da-da.
00:00:48.560 And then Bezos took the jobs elsewhere, right?
00:00:50.820 But then the moment he started kind of calling out against the establishment, instantly, the sexual charges came up, the 15,000, which the old folks owned.
00:01:00.860 That was his mistake as a governor that he went through, major mistake, could have been a fatal mistake that he made on his career.
00:01:06.820 But they went after him.
00:01:07.680 The same people that were saying he should run for office and be president, then all of a sudden went after him.
00:01:12.080 You, New York, at first, you're aligned.
00:01:14.620 At first, you sound like you're trying to be a gamer with the Democratic Party.
00:01:19.960 And then all of a sudden, us who were watching it closely were like, ooh, he's not comfortable with that.
00:01:26.160 Ooh, he just called them out.
00:01:28.260 Ooh, the $550 million credit cards and all this stuff.
00:01:31.420 Ooh, he just called out Biden, not getting help.
00:01:33.820 They're going to come after him.
00:01:35.100 Boom.
00:01:36.120 Almost instantly, the turkey, hey, we want to give this event.
00:01:39.880 They're coming in.
00:01:40.400 Can we give them a better experience?
00:01:41.780 All the stuff that happened with that.
00:01:43.040 And then now your name is being mentioned in different places.
00:01:46.000 And now publicly, they're defaming you in their own way.
00:01:48.940 And, you know, you're going through a law.
00:01:50.080 Your lawyer is telling you for a year and a half you can't say anything.
00:01:52.540 So you have to kind of stay quiet.
00:01:54.720 The pattern of trying to make it in the Democratic Party, when they have your back, they have your back.
00:02:00.800 The vibe I get is the moment you decide to be a man of your own, they're almost hanging on to a receipt to come and destroy your life.
00:02:06.980 Is that what caused you to leave the party?
00:02:08.820 No, let's go back for a moment because you said a lot.
00:02:11.940 And I want to peel some of that back.
00:02:13.300 Peel some of that back.
00:02:14.620 I was always an outsider.
00:02:16.420 I always was a person that, you know, when you look at the policies of the party, for the most part, the whole public safety, they tend to shy away from the public safety conversation.
00:02:28.320 And I never did.
00:02:29.120 Because being on the streets, seeing the victims of crime, I was always a believer that innocent people should not be the victims of violence.
00:02:38.760 And that was not always the tone.
00:02:40.580 When I ran for mayor and I said I'm running on the platform of public safety, my consultant said you can never win on that.
00:02:46.560 There's no way you can win on the public safety platform.
00:02:49.240 You got to run on another platform.
00:02:51.020 And I said, no, I know what I'm seeing every day.
00:02:54.180 And I've always stayed focused on that.
00:02:56.520 That was always my North Star.
00:02:57.880 And the reason even Madani can start talking about affordability is another thing because I made the city darn safe.
00:03:04.960 We're the safest big city in America.
00:03:06.820 And so I've always pushed back on what I felt was wrong.
00:03:11.260 I was always rooted in your belief.
00:03:14.480 Don't go away from what you believe in.
00:03:16.440 And if you Google me 20, 40 years ago, you're going to say this guy was saying the same thing.
00:03:22.260 He was always pushing public safety and justice, public safety and justice.
00:03:26.600 And so when I ran for mayor, there was many people that was concerned that I was mayor.
00:03:32.240 You know, when I got elected, I said I'm the new face of the Democratic Party.
00:03:36.560 Those working class people that's going to fight for a working class agenda.
00:03:40.360 And even when we came down to, which I think was a turning point, was the migrants and asylum seeker crisis.
00:03:48.480 That was a turning point.
00:03:49.500 It was costing us billions of dollars, totally $7.7 billion now total.
00:03:53.880 We were getting $4,000 a week, you know, $8,000 every two weeks.
00:03:59.000 And we had to, the federal government did not allow me to stop the buses from coming in, did not allow me to allow them to work.
00:04:06.100 Some of them were waiting a year and a half to two years to work.
00:04:08.840 City law required me to feed, house, and clothes, educate of 50,000 children.
00:04:15.360 And so when I saw this was devastating us financially, because those dollars should have gone to the services of our city.
00:04:22.200 That is when I believe they decided that, you know what, we're going to come after this guy.
00:04:28.280 And, you know, when I heard the president talk about it on the campaign trail, I didn't know the president.
00:04:34.240 Never met him.
00:04:35.020 We both was in the same city.
00:04:36.460 Never met him until he was running for office.
00:04:38.140 You and the president have never met.
00:04:39.360 Never met.
00:04:39.960 Until we were in this, until he was running for office.
00:04:42.480 And I met him at the Alfred E. Smith dinner, a huge Catholic dinner.
00:04:46.720 2016 or 24?
00:04:48.200 20, this one here, 24.
00:04:49.840 This one, 24.
00:04:50.620 24, you've never met him.
00:04:51.360 24, never met him.
00:04:52.580 Never met him.
00:04:52.960 Oh, wow.
00:04:53.500 He was on the campaign trail without knowing me, saying, look what they're doing to this mayor.
00:04:59.340 This is wrong what they're doing to this mayor.
00:05:00.940 I saw that.
00:05:01.340 Many people didn't read the indictment.
00:05:04.180 I was charged and indicted for calling the fire department and asking them to do a building
00:05:11.720 inspection.
00:05:12.520 Not to pass it, do a building inspection, because the president of Turkey was coming to see the
00:05:17.600 opening of his new building.
00:05:18.720 And they stated that, you know, throughout the last 10 years, when you traveled and paid
00:05:24.020 for the trip, you asked for upgrades.
00:05:26.000 I got upgrades when I went on governmental travel.
00:05:28.220 And when I was on personal travel, do we have more leg room?
00:05:31.880 Which acts all the time.
00:05:33.420 They took that and said that because you called the fire department and asked them to do a
00:05:37.880 building inspection, that we're going to charge you with bribery.
00:05:41.200 I was facing 33 years in prison.
00:05:43.420 33 years in prison.
00:05:44.680 And it wasn't until I read Cash for Tales book, Government Gangsters, that you see the
00:05:51.560 lawfare that has been taking place in our country.
00:05:54.420 Did you find out who was behind the whole thing?
00:05:57.380 Well, the U.S. attorney for the Southern District was a person named Damian Williams.
00:06:04.760 When he left after President Trump got elected, he opened a website.
00:06:09.840 The Damian Williams that worked on the Epstein file and worked on Marianne Comey like that
00:06:15.040 Damian Williams?
00:06:15.820 If it's to say, I don't know the files he was on.
00:06:18.260 Yeah, yeah.
00:06:18.520 This is the Damian Williams that worked on the Jelaine Maxwell file on Sam Bankman-Fried,
00:06:22.980 Sean Combs.
00:06:23.760 Yeah, this is the same one.
00:06:24.960 And Brian Benjamin in the attorney general, the lieutenant governor, highest ranking African
00:06:30.800 American in the state of New York.
00:06:32.180 They indicted him, destroyed his career, and then dropped the charges.
00:06:34.980 But what Americans need to know is that they felt as though they were sovereign.
00:06:42.020 Their mindset was, they're sovereign.
00:06:44.820 Just think about that for a moment.
00:06:46.780 Sovereign, when you're sovereign, you don't respond to anyone.
00:06:49.760 They didn't feel they were supposed to respond to main justice.
00:06:52.440 They didn't feel they were supposed to respond to the president.
00:06:55.520 They felt as though they were an entity within America.
00:06:58.480 That's not in the Constitution.
00:07:00.740 Everyone answers to someone.
00:07:02.500 Do you think what they did to Andrew Cuomo was also unfair?
00:07:06.400 I don't know the full scope of what happened.
00:07:09.500 You know, understanding the full scope.
00:07:11.640 Were you supportive of him as a governor, what he was doing in New York?
00:07:14.780 Were you somebody that said, I like him as a governor more than I like Hochul as a governor?
00:07:18.420 No, no, no.
00:07:19.420 You prefer Hochul over Cuomo?
00:07:20.540 I prefer Hochul, yes.
00:07:23.180 Hochul's actions over Cuomo.
00:07:24.640 Let me tell you why.
00:07:25.780 Cuomo passed bail reform that turned to revolving door of criminal justice system.
00:07:30.040 As you mentioned, Cuomo killed 15,000 loved ones in the nursing home.
00:07:35.280 Cuomo also did other laws that many people may not understand the depth of them, like raise their age, canceling supplement for people who are in housing.
00:07:45.500 It created our housing crisis.
00:07:47.360 Closing psychiatric beds and creating when we see people on our street walking around with serious mental illness.
00:07:53.460 And so when you look at his programs, I had to fix those programs.
00:07:56.840 His cannabis law, I had to close 1,400 cannabis shops that were creating violence in our communities.
00:08:03.500 And so there were many laws.
00:08:05.020 He succumbed to the left, the far left that's in Albany.
00:08:09.740 If he did not succumb to the far left and went based on his principles, I would not have had to fight and clean up our city.
00:08:18.000 I'm fighting with the far left in Albany, the far left in the city council.
00:08:22.140 It's a constant battle.
00:08:23.960 And much of this is succumbing to the far left hurt us.
00:08:26.800 How's your relationship with Letitia James and seeing what she did with Trump when you were following it?
00:08:30.760 Because that's in your city.
00:08:31.640 So you're seeing it on a daily basis.
00:08:33.020 What do you think about what she did with Trump's case?
00:08:35.620 Well, she's the state attorney general.
00:08:38.680 And they conduct investigations, you know, that we're not privy to those investigations.
00:08:43.440 But I don't think at no time should we ever use an investigatory body to go after individuals.
00:08:50.260 You know, advertising ahead of time that, you know, she was going to go after the president.
00:08:55.940 I don't think that was the right thing to do while you're campaigning, to say you're going to specifically go after someone.
00:09:02.980 So I don't know the depth of her investigation.
00:09:05.040 And you know the stories now with Letitia James.
00:09:06.920 Do you have a relationship with her or you don't have a relationship?
00:09:08.760 I've known Letitia James for years.
00:09:10.560 We came up through politics together, right?
00:09:14.100 And I am very, very, as my attorney, Alex Sparrow, told me when I was going through my investigation that, Eric, don't you say anything until this is over.
00:09:26.880 And now I'm free to talk about it and I talk about it.
00:09:29.240 So I'm very leery of talking about investigations that are dealing with other people because they should have the right to go by their attorney.
00:09:36.040 The only reason I'm saying that is because while you're watching what the president said about you to say how unfair it is what they're doing to you, did you at any moment watch some of your colleagues in New York that you came up with saying, dude, what are you guys doing?
00:09:50.700 This is fully unfair what you're doing to the guy, to Trump.
00:09:53.800 And we know it's not true.
00:09:54.740 Why are you guys going after him the way that you are?
00:09:56.780 Did you ever have any types of conversations, either publicly or privately, with your peers saying, I think you guys are crossing the line a little bit.
00:10:02.540 You're using the deal, you know, the justice system against the president.
00:10:04.940 We don't have that relationship that she would go into the investigations that she's doing.
00:10:09.840 We don't communicate like that.
00:10:11.600 I don't get it.
00:10:12.260 Personally, just your own opinion, though.
00:10:14.880 That conversation with her.
00:10:16.440 Yeah, your own opinion.
00:10:17.520 Like, did you publicly, you know, have a sentiment to say, I don't think it's fair what they're doing to President Trump?
00:10:23.060 In my gatherings, I often talk about this is wrong.
00:10:27.240 This is wrong.
00:10:28.260 Lawfare is always wrong to me.
00:10:30.180 No matter what, lawfare is wrong.
00:10:32.040 If anyone attempted to use lawfare on someone, I've always felt that wrong.
00:10:37.420 I believe in justice and public safety.
00:10:39.680 And I always make that clear.
00:10:41.380 So you would say it was unfair some of the ways New York handled President Trump.
00:10:46.560 We're trying to do everything for him to not be able to run.
00:10:49.860 And when you do an analysis now and you read back over what he was charged with in some of those cases, you have to ask yourself, just as I asked myself when I looked at what I was charged with, how are we stopping the president of the United States from running for office and the timing of that?
00:11:05.820 And then you look at what President Biden did.
00:11:07.440 President Biden pardoned his son.
00:11:08.860 President Biden said the Justice Department was politicized.
00:11:12.220 He said that.
00:11:13.120 I said it.
00:11:13.900 President Trump said it.
00:11:15.060 And I don't think we should ever politicize our Justice Department.
00:11:18.280 That's fair enough.
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