00:01:09.660I, President Trump, this is on Truth Social, I'm calling for a one-year cap on credit card rates at 10%.
00:01:15.300A credit card rate cap is enormously popular with Americans, said Matt Schultz, chief credit card analyst at LendingTree.
00:01:22.360That's why we've seen big names on both sides of the aisle.
00:01:25.600Proposed credit card rate caps in recent years, including President Trump, who also floated the idea on the campaign trail 2024.
00:01:32.240Currently, about 175 million people in the U.S. credit card.
00:01:35.880According to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, while some pay off the balance each month, roughly 60% of credit card users have revolving debt.
00:01:45.120The New York Fed said that means they pay interest changes, charges, on the balances they carry from month to month.
00:01:52.060About 61% of credit card holders with credit card balance have been in debt for at least one year, up from 53% late 2024, according to Bankrate Survey.
00:02:04.720The average credit card interest rate in the U.S. fell to 23.79% in January, marketing the lowest level since March of 2023.
00:02:37.600We can't stop prices going up because we can't stop printing money, so how about we'll just cap prices?
00:02:42.220And so whether that's rent controls, Elizabeth Warren wants to cap the price of turkeys for Thanksgiving, or it's credit card rates.
00:02:48.100The problem with price controls is we have 1,000 cases of it not working.
00:02:52.560And just from a philosophical level, you can understand why.
00:02:55.360So, for example, credit cards, banks, is a very competitive industry.
00:02:59.200Credit cards are very competitive, and they're trying to get as many customers as they can, and they're constantly trying to undercut each other.
00:03:06.960In order to get more customers, who cares what credit card you have?
00:03:09.540You think about the rate, and so it's very, very competitive.
00:03:12.880And so they want to get as many customers as they can without blowing themselves up.
00:03:16.900And so they're already trying to get rates down as low as possible.
00:03:20.120They understand that people can just change balances from one card to the next.
00:03:24.300And so if they could lower rates, they certainly would.
00:03:26.880The problem is when you cap it at 10%.
00:03:50.820So what I was saying is that it's already competitive.
00:03:53.820Credit card companies are already competing to bring the rates as low as possible.
00:03:56.360And what happens is if you cut the rate to 10% or 8% or 18%, whatever that number is, everybody that wouldn't qualify for that rate is then left without credit.
00:04:05.360And that will then drive people either to the BNPL or drive them to their back alley neighborhood loan shark.
00:04:11.880And so people need money, especially, like I said, with this fiat system as we have today, people are falling further behind.
00:04:17.280They're using credit to augment their lifestyle.
00:04:19.760And yeah, if you cut them off at 18% or 15% or 10% as Trump is floating out, it just cuts off a huge segment of the population that needs it.
00:04:42.240Oh, state usury laws generally don't apply to credit cards because most major issuers locate themselves in states like Delaware, South Dakota, Missouri, that exempt credit card debt from strict caps.
00:04:56.820So there's a couple things here that we can go back and look at real case studies.
00:05:00.320In late 2021, early 2022, credit card companies reduced people's credit limits across the board because the economy was tough.
00:05:12.100And so they were handicapping the fact that a lot of people are probably going to go for cash advances because money was tight, but they were going to have issues paying it back.
00:05:20.680So during the COVID crisis, credit card companies across the board went in and adjusted down caps on the lowest third of consumers.
00:06:25.780They want it to be the Capital One card.
00:06:27.420So they're competing with each other very, very stridently.
00:06:30.840What's going to happen, if you put the cap, it's just like COVID.
00:06:35.820They're going to lower the limits, and people are going to turn to BNPL or other things.
00:06:41.400Now, this is well intended by the president during a time of affordability, but I think right now the credit card companies operate in states that are most favored to them, sure.
00:06:54.300But also they're competing with each other.
00:06:56.420If one of them could get more customers by going to 19.99%, you'd see one of them do it tomorrow morning and be shouting from the rooftops, hey, your alternative to Capital One is me.
00:07:28.960Like, I wonder where Scott Besson lies with this idea.
00:07:33.920I really wonder what Scott said with this.
00:07:35.800Brandon, go ahead, because I got one number I just pulled up right now that when I share it with you guys, you're going to be blown away when I share this number with you in a minute.
00:07:44.460Yeah, it's funny you say that, because I was just thinking it's as if they're sitting in a room saying, all right, this cost of living thing is becoming a problem.
00:08:01.020I mean, I think maybe student loans would be a better place to either cap or remove interest rates, because they've already been paid back a lot of the time in terms of without the interest.
00:08:10.860Like, I think that just paying back the loan would be enough.
00:08:13.560But, yeah, like this example of lobbying, the reason that I don't think there's a limit on it.
00:08:19.460That's that's probably why, because it's like the same thing as loan sharking.
00:08:21.780It's just like legalized loan shark in a lot of cases.
00:08:23.720But I don't I think it's good for inflation because, you know, like more debt equals a higher cost of goods and services.
00:08:32.740So, like, it would create probably a crash type situation, like the Great Depression is like the biggest example of deflation.
00:08:39.440But that's the thing that's unfortunate is like you have to like weigh like an economic downturn versus the cost of living.
00:08:45.660You can't really have both of them be ideal.