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00:00:00.000 There's no doubt that the number one adversary the United States has had for a long time is

00:00:04.300 communist China. The dominant party on the planet Earth. They're also trying to dominate the economy 0.66

00:00:11.000 of the world. And on top of it, a pandemic, a worldwide pandemic. Was it developed in a Chinese 1.00

00:00:16.480 lab? God only knows. Why are so many Americans buying 80% more guns? These are organizations,

00:00:23.320 BLM, Intifada, who were rioting all over major cities, Portland, Seattle, Milwaukee, LA, 0.99

00:00:30.420 Washington, D.C., burning, destroying. And people looked at it and said, I don't have a way of

00:00:35.200 protecting my family. And they went out and bought firearms. The day-to-day person couldn't handle

00:00:40.340 the truth if we really knew what was really taking place. If there's not a national security component

00:00:45.640 that needs to be kept secret, there ought to be transparency. Interesting to say that. There needs

00:00:50.260 to be more of that in Washington. There needs to be more cooperation. But who's going to be

00:00:54.080 Biden's biggest enemy? I'm looking at some of the things that he's announced in his executive orders

00:00:58.320 and politically, economically, and national security-wise, I don't see Biden as being

00:01:05.420 particularly helpful to what we need to be as a nation.

00:01:10.940 My guest city has an extensive resume. Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, I think he's the 66th,

00:01:16.080 former 66th president of the NRA, two Purple Hearts, three patents, 17 best-selling books,

00:01:22.660 very, very deep experience, military politics. So with that being said, Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North,

00:01:28.920 thank you so much for being a guest on Valuetainment.

00:01:31.260 Good to be with you, Patrick.

00:01:32.820 So I got a few topics I want to go through. So I'm just going to get right into the topics.

00:01:37.140 And I'm curious to know what you're going to be thinking about. So for me, I'm a guy that lived in

00:01:41.480 Iran 10 years. Okay. So 78 to 89, we left, we go to Germany, two years, refugee camp. Then I come 0.53

00:01:47.620 out here, I go in the military. Then later on, I become a business owner, et cetera, et cetera.

00:01:51.120 So my history is somewhat tied to the Middle East, Iran, mother's side, communist, that side,

00:01:57.220 imperialist. I, myself, capitalist. Okay. So put all those different backgrounds together.

00:02:02.420 When I think about the current time, and I think about Trump versus Biden, I'm curious to know

00:02:08.240 what you're going to say to this. Under a Trump administration that we had, who were our top

00:02:14.060 enemies during a Trump administration, who were our top enemies? Maybe you're going to say China,

00:02:19.340 you're wrong, whatever the list may be from you. But I'm also curious to know what you think now

00:02:23.520 under a Biden administration, who our top enemies are. So Trump administration, Biden administration,

00:02:29.920 what would you say?

00:02:30.880 There's no doubt that the number one adversary the United States has had for a long time was

00:02:35.240 communist China. It's an authoritarian country. They aim to be the dominant party in the planet 0.81

00:02:41.980 earth. Number two would be Iran, because the uncertainty as to whether they're going to use

00:02:46.920 the nuclear weapons that they're building, and they are building nuclear weapons. And the ICBMs that

00:02:51.800 they're testing just did one here, what, four or five days ago. The fact is communist China is helping 0.94

00:02:57.060 make that happen. Why? Because it's to their advantage to have us distracted by other things besides

00:03:02.140 what's going on in communist China. Communist Chinese are today committing genocide against

00:03:08.620 the Uyghur people and others. They're committing the kinds of threats to democracy that they promised 1.00

00:03:13.980 to abide by when the British signed a treaty, giving Hong Kong their ultimate catastrophe.

00:03:20.040 Number three, they're building literally military bastions all over the South China Sea by dredging up 0.60

00:03:25.880 coral and building runways and arming them, things that they said they'd never do. Number four,

00:03:30.420 they're threatening Taiwan. Just this past week, we ended up with a U.S. Navy freedom of navigation

00:03:36.320 exercise going through the Straits of Taiwan, in which at least a half dozen, maybe as many as 10

00:03:42.360 different communist Chinese aircraft overflew the U.S. destroyer that was going through the Straits.

00:03:49.160 Those kinds of things say a lot about where they're heading. They're also trying to dominate the

00:03:54.680 economy of the world. Their so-called Belt and Road Initiative, which takes basically most of

00:04:00.280 sub-Saharan Africa is dominated today by communist China. I mean, I've been out there. I've seen

00:04:05.700 every time you go to a major city in sub-Saharan Africa, you're looking at communist Chinese engineers 0.99

00:04:12.440 and you're looking here in the United States at communist Chinese military intelligence people

00:04:17.220 coming to our colleges and university to steal our intellectual property. Much of it has to do with

00:04:23.060 things like weapons with whom we deal very closely with Israel. Understandably, the Israelis are very 1.00

00:04:28.500 concerned. We've got an impeachment trial going on, as you and I are speaking, where there's an

00:04:33.660 impeachment trial going on in Washington, D.C., and at the same time, one of America's closest allies,

00:04:39.620 Bibi Netanyahu, is on trial in Jerusalem. I mean, we have never seen in my lifetime, I was born when

00:04:46.480 FDR was president, okay? We've never seen in our lifetime anything like this, and on top of it, a pandemic,

00:04:53.080 a worldwide pandemic that was actually supported by what the communist Chinese refused to do, 0.78

00:04:59.200 and that was tell everybody how communicable this terrible disease is, it's now mutating in South

00:05:03.400 Africa and the so-called UK version of it. We have no idea whether the vaccines were developed in such

00:05:10.080 enormous rush, you know, operational warp speed by President Trump, we have no idea if these things are

00:05:16.180 going to protect us from this new mutant variant of that disease. Now, was it developed in a Chinese 1.00

00:05:21.680 communist lab? God only knows. I don't know, but I do know that they did everything in their power to

00:05:27.740 keep us from finding out how communicable it was, how deadly it is, and the bottom line of it is the

00:05:33.980 communist Chinese are behind all that stuff. On top of that, we've got 60 or 70 of these so-called 1.00

00:05:39.660 Confucius Institutes co-located on American College University, which are teaching communist Chinese

00:05:46.300 ideology. And when you look at all of those things, the soft power, the hard power, the kinds of

00:05:52.440 military activities, there's no doubt communist China is still the number one adversary. Does the 0.96

00:05:57.440 Biden administration realize that? The only I know to call would be Hunter Biden. If you can get him on

00:06:02.020 the show, he's probably making America's foreign policy toward China. So the reason why I asked this

00:06:07.740 for me is the following question. So whether it's Trump or whether it's Biden, enemy, number one

00:06:14.020 enemy is the same, China. Number two enemy in your eyes, same, Iran. Where do you go from there? Do you 0.78

00:06:19.780 go Russia? Do you go, you know, Turkey? Because I know Turkey is an ally, but Turkey is a little too 0.98

00:06:25.580 powerful in the Middle East, and they're kind of bullying guys that are bigger than them. What do you 0.97

00:06:29.400 put Russia, where do you put other people below Iran? Well, look, I mean, what we've got to do is count 0.80

00:06:34.580 on our NATO allies to stand up. And one, Trump reimposed the sanctions, the pressure against

00:06:40.540 the Iranian regime, aimed not at creating a war, aimed at bringing the people of Iran to the point

00:06:47.240 where they say, look, we need a regime change here. It doesn't need to be revolutionary. We just need to

00:06:52.720 vote out the theocracy that's running the country, running Iran, into the dirt to continue to maintain 1.00

00:06:59.780 the enormous expenditures that are required to build nuclear weapons and the means of

00:07:04.300 delivering them. Who's the number one target for Iran? Remember, we are the great Satan. But remember, 0.98

00:07:11.300 it's a lot closer to Israel. And so Israel has got to regard themselves as the most likely target, if not 0.91

00:07:17.720 the ultimate design. And what the United States needs to make sure that we can do is do the kinds of

00:07:24.180 intellectual property investigations and research and development on the best means of deterring that

00:07:31.180 kind of attack. You know, our military doesn't exist to fight wars. I mean, we need to be capable of

00:07:37.240 fighting a war and winning it. But our military exists to deter adversaries from doing bad things

00:07:43.040 to us, attacking our country. It's been successful at that throughout the entire Cold War. The president

00:07:48.120 I was blessed to serve, Ronald Reagan, understood that. You know, peace through strength was one of his

00:07:54.400 mottos. And the idea of making sure that the bad guys are not doing bad things. How about the old

00:07:59.900 expression, trust could verify? That's Ronald Reagan. That's what every president needs to be

00:08:05.260 able to do. Trump did it very forcefully. There's no doubt that President Trump said things in a way

00:08:11.000 that I would not say them, and probably you wouldn't say them. But the fact is, if you look at the

00:08:15.100 policies, both domestically and internationally with Trump, he got NATO to stand up and start paying her

00:08:20.180 fair share. He added countries to the NATO umbrella, if you will. He's built relationships in the Middle

00:08:26.080 East that nobody ever thought was possible. I mean, think about Arab countries who are willing to do a 0.95

00:08:32.300 peace deal with Israel. Impossible. Not so. And so what I hope is that this administration is going to 0.70

00:08:40.480 follow through on a number of those things that President Trump did very, very well. And I'm very

00:08:45.280 concerned because a lot of their top advisors, Blinken, Sullivan, those are the guys that negotiated

00:08:50.380 the so-called joint plan of action dealing the so-called Iran deal. And of course, America gave

00:08:56.540 up billions of dollars in hard cash and then added to it billions more that allowed the heavy weight

00:09:05.780 of what they were doing in terms of their economy. It allowed that heavy weight to be taken off because

00:09:10.640 communist China is now the number one purchaser of their oil. We've got to make sure that the 0.99

00:09:15.020 Europeans follow through on where they started out with President Trump. Whether you like Trump or

00:09:19.520 not, the fact is the things he did were remarkable in terms of protecting the American people.

00:09:25.060 It extended domestically to protecting our border. Countries without borders aren't countries.

00:09:30.380 Okay. So the free flow of individuals across borders is not something that gives you sovereignty over

00:09:36.020 your territory. And on top of that, he rebuilt America's defenses. He got us out of an endless war

00:09:41.460 in Afghanistan. He got us out of an endless war in Iraq. He pulled troops back from places where

00:09:46.460 they'd been for, in some cases, decades. The bottom line of it was all done to protect the American

00:09:51.160 people. And like I say, deterrence is the number one objective of a strong military. Israel knows that.

00:09:56.760 We know that. Does anybody else in this administration know it besides you and me? I hope so.

00:10:00.920 So the reason why I'm asking this is because, you know, everything in life, you can learn,

00:10:06.800 if I know who your enemies are, I know where I align with you, right? If I know who your allies are,

00:10:11.480 I know how I align with you. And you've heard the sayings, an enemy of an enemy is a friend,

00:10:15.760 a friend of an enemy is an enemy. This is not the first time you're hearing this. So who would you say

00:10:21.020 when Trump was president for the four years versus now Biden being president for the last, you know,

00:10:25.220 whatever timeline is that he's been a president, who would you say were Trump's biggest enemies who

00:10:30.120 constantly got on his way, in his way? And who do you think are Biden's biggest enemies today?

00:10:36.060 And who could be their biggest enemies? So Trump's biggest enemies, Biden's biggest enemies. And I'm

00:10:40.560 not talking about just China or Iran. I'm talking about media universe. I'm talking about like

00:10:45.640 social. I'm talking a little bit deeper than that. Who would you say are Trump's biggest enemies

00:10:49.420 versus Biden's biggest enemies? Well, I want to just go on the record saying President Donald Trump

00:10:56.320 was a friend. Okay. He was a friend before he was president. We have these great ceremonies,

00:11:01.260 the Army Navy game back before COVID, right after he was elected, he attended the Army Navy game with

00:11:06.420 my foundation, Freedom Alliance, right? Half the game on the Army side of the field, half the game

00:11:10.880 on the Navy side of the field with our supporters and friends and our board members and the like.

00:11:15.560 I told him then, don't be an enemy to yourself. Unfortunately, he never took that advice. He would call me up

00:11:23.460 at various times, both before he was president and afterwards. And he'd ask for advice. I would end

00:11:29.400 it always with, give me your phone, because you are your own worst enemy. Biden doesn't have that

00:11:35.720 problem. It's not because Biden is more humble, and he probably is. I mean, there's not a lot of

00:11:42.080 humility in Donald Trump. I mean, the trial that's going on right as you and I are speaking right now

00:11:47.980 in the United States Senate is proof of that. I mean, the bottom line of it is he became his own

00:11:54.260 worst enemy in the things that he would say and the way he would say them. The things he did needed

00:11:59.820 to be done. They needed to be done back during the so-called Obama-Biden administration. They

00:12:04.480 weren't. They were being done by Donald Trump, which improved. Look, one of the most important

00:12:10.900 things that Donald Trump did for America was he created tens of millions of jobs, not just a

00:12:17.620 million, but literally over 10 million jobs. He gave people the dignity of work. There were people,

00:12:25.080 many of the minorities, perhaps even most, who'd never had a job before. And they could proudly walk

00:12:30.660 home, in many cases, to the woman that they'd made pregnant in or out of marriage. And he would hold 0.94

00:12:35.660 up that check and say, I've got a job. Okay. Very, very important to the people who supported him.

00:12:42.420 Very important, obviously, to the economy of the United States. I mean, the fastest recovery we've

00:12:48.800 ever had from a serious recession. It wasn't because of what Obama and Biden had been doing in their eight

00:12:54.160 years. It was because Donald Trump came in and knew how to work the system and made it work so that

00:12:59.940 other people could find work and get to work, go to work, bring home a paycheck. The pandemic got in

00:13:06.180 the way of all of that. The challenge that presidents, both Trump and Biden, are going to have

00:13:11.860 ultimately is what happens as a consequence of this coronavirus? What is going to be the ultimate

00:13:18.600 outcome of it? Because if this vaccine isn't working, and the Israelis are a perfect example of 1.00

00:13:23.580 apparently they've figured it out, they've got one across the board, apparently. Lord knows there's a lot

00:13:28.500 baloney about vaccines. And my lovely wife and I have already had our first shot. We're going to

00:13:33.720 get our second shot here on Friday. And so we're looking forward to that. We've got 18 grandkids.

00:13:40.780 Okay. Many of them are sitting right now around our kitchen table doing their homework because they

00:13:45.180 haven't been in school in a year. And I'm hoping someday I can use the internet at home because

00:13:50.740 literally they've all got their laptops open in the kitchen table doing everything from math to science

00:13:55.240 history to English. So your house is very peaceful right now, very quiet. I can already hear it.

00:14:01.380 The reason I'm in my office is because they've tied up back in my office.

00:14:06.380 Okay. So you said Trump's biggest enemy was himself. Give me your phone. Put the phone down. You know,

00:14:12.260 you're your biggest enemy. Fair enough. Alexander the Great years ago said, I haven't met the enemy.

00:14:16.920 It is I. Trump is his own enemy. Fair enough. Let's look at Biden. Who's going to be Biden's biggest

00:14:23.460 enemy? Because I don't know if he has an enemy right now. Who's Biden's biggest enemy today?

00:14:27.480 Well, I'm not sure that enemy is the right word. Look, I'm a conservative. You're a conservative. I

00:14:31.840 mean, you're an entrepreneur. I'm an entrepreneur. We've created jobs for other people. Okay. So I

00:14:37.640 understand that. I don't know that he necessarily has done so. I mean, I'm looking at some of the

00:14:41.400 things that he's announced in his executive orders. And he talks like he's going to unify the

00:14:46.580 country. But we now have something that's never happened before in American history,

00:14:50.560 probably is unconstitutional. And they're trying a person who's no longer in office in an impeachment

00:14:56.520 process that says the only punishment for impeachment is removal from office. And if they

00:15:02.500 want, they can then say you can never have another office, never another elected office. There's

00:15:07.320 nothing in our constitution that says you can impeach someone who's an American citizen. It's all about

00:15:13.280 office holders. It doesn't have to be just the president. It could be a federal judge. It could be all

00:15:17.140 kinds of people. You can impeach senators. You can impeach congressmen. But no one's ever impeached

00:15:21.800 somebody who's already out of office. And certainly no one's ever tried that person, which is what's

00:15:27.420 happening right now. No. So one of Biden's problems is going to be trying to unify the country that no

00:15:33.360 matter what he says about it, Patrick, he is continuing to divide America. And I tell people,

00:15:39.100 I said, you know, particularly my grandkids. I mean, our age span is sophomore in college down to,

00:15:45.220 you know, just barely stopped crawling here a few weeks ago. He's now walking around, okay?

00:15:49.540 Okay.

00:15:50.240 You got a 19-year age span between the oldest and the youngest.

00:15:54.020 18 of them.

00:15:55.180 18 of them.

00:15:56.000 Yeah.

00:15:56.720 And thankfully, they're all here in Virginia. They all, they congregate in granddad's and

00:16:01.640 grandmas.

00:16:02.480 That's nice.

00:16:03.260 That's a blessing.

00:16:03.880 No, it's a great blessing. There's no doubt about it. So I look at what our grandkids are facing.

00:16:10.560 Our grandkids are facing a mountain of debt, uncertainty about COVID, and the idea that they

00:16:16.860 will never be able to dig out from under it. And I don't know, I don't see anything that's being done

00:16:21.180 by this administration that isn't going to be even more disheartening to their future. I mean,

00:16:27.580 the mountain of debt we've accumulated is a consequence of COVID. The closures that have

00:16:31.940 happened all across America is a consequence of it. You know, in Virginia, where I am, you could

00:16:37.520 only have a certain number of people go to church, but you can go on any bar in the state and pack

00:16:43.100 the thing without masks. When you look at that, I say, you know, this isn't just a political battle.

00:16:49.680 I mean, what's going on in America isn't a contest between red and blue. It's a theological battle.

00:16:55.640 And that is the spirit of America was developed by our founders and the framers of our

00:17:00.280 constitution as a Judeo-Christian value system based on the Holy Bible. I got one right here on my 0.94

00:17:06.080 desk. I look at that and I say, most of our culture seems to have walked away from that.

00:17:12.380 So what I'm saying is to our grandkids, what needs to happen is there has to be a spiritual renewal

00:17:18.320 to unify America. You're not going to do it politically, certainly not with what's going

00:17:22.740 on in Washington, D.C. right now. And so the reality of it is, I want to be a role model to

00:17:28.860 those 18 grandkids. I want, you know, there's this wonderful passage in Paul's second letter to

00:17:35.040 Timothy. And it's probably his last letter. He's a prisoner in Rome. He's about to be executed by

00:17:41.700 Nero. He writes to Timothy, who is a bishop in what is today Turkey, Ephesus, and he's encouraging

00:17:48.440 him to stay on the job. And at one point in that lengthy letter, probably written by Luke and signed

00:17:55.120 by Paul, he writes about, I want you to, I'm paraphrasing second Timothy. I want you to remember

00:18:01.040 that I am the person who showed you how to fight the good fight, how to finish the race and how to

00:18:06.820 keep the faith, right? We need people like that who will unify America. I'm not pretending to be

00:18:13.740 that for the rest of the country. I want to be that for those 18 grandkids and all the things I've done

00:18:19.100 in life. The most important, you know, and I've had a real adventure. There are very few people you've

00:18:24.140 ever had on. I've watched a bunch of your podcasts, brother. There's very few people who had a life as

00:18:28.880 exciting as mine, to include the excitement of falling down the stairs while I was shoveling

00:18:34.640 off the deck Sunday afternoon, right? In a second, what I call the Biden blizzards, you know, we've had-

00:18:40.940 Where was Dave when that happened? Was Dave there helping you out or we couldn't find them?

00:18:44.900 Well, actually, actually, one of our sons said to me afterwards, his dad, all the things you've done

00:18:49.960 in life, they're going to find your body at the bottom of the deck, having bent yourself down the

00:18:54.880 stairs, and instead of a rifle in your hand, you're going to have a shovel, and everybody's going to

00:18:59.680 say, what a dumb SOB he was to have gone out in the middle of a snowstorm and clear the ice off the

00:19:05.080 deck. I look at those 18 grandkids, and I want to do the kinds of things, Patrick, in whatever days

00:19:11.760 that the good lawyers are going to give me left, that encourage them to fight the good fight, finish

00:19:16.960 the race, and basically go out there and do good things.

00:19:21.360 Respect, because, you know, the example is what we all need as we're coming up to look

00:19:26.120 at somebody and say, you know what, I aspire to one day, you know, and it's good that those

00:19:30.080 18 grandkids have a grandfather like you. I'm sure you got a lot of stuff. I'm sure you're

00:19:33.680 the grandfather. Every grandkid would want to sit there and just hear stories. Can you tell

00:19:38.280 me another story? Can you tell me, because I bet you got thousands of stories. But, you know,

00:19:41.720 the reason why I'm asking these questions about Trump and Biden is when Biden first started

00:19:47.920 campaigning, I'll never forget, he went on Instagram and an Instagram account. I think

00:19:52.480 I was the first person to comment on Instagram when he created his first post. And I said,

00:19:57.500 it's official. Biden's going to be announcing that he's running. I think 60 days later, he

00:20:01.880 announced he's running and boom, he ran. So then he goes in, he kind of watching everybody,

00:20:07.200 you know, it's him, it's Sanders, it's all these other guys, Pete, you know, Kamala, the

00:20:11.320 first one, him and Kamala went at it and slowly but surely Sanders came out, this person came

00:20:15.820 out, that person came out and it's him. So it went from AOC and Sanders camp, Elizabeth

00:20:21.200 Warren's camp, you know, Kamala's camp to now let's, let's make a decision. It's going

00:20:26.500 to be Biden. Then when the debate started, we thought he was going to protect a lot of

00:20:30.640 AOC and Bernie's philosophy, socialism, you know, let's go out there and you're, you know,

00:20:36.100 $80 trillion, $30 trillion over 10 years for, you know, climate change. And then he became

00:20:41.060 president. When he became president, he didn't put AOC on the administration. He didn't go

00:20:45.780 out there and put a lot of these guys on the team. He went pretty moderate, let's just say

00:20:50.220 moderate. He's still left, but not as left as we thought he was going to be. Came out

00:20:55.100 with executive orders. I think it's the second highest executive order since FDR. FDR did

00:20:59.440 20, 38, 32 in his first 30 days. And I think he's done 28. And I think Obama's third right 0.65

00:21:05.140 after that. So then we have him today. You don't see him a lot on TV. You saw Trump on TV

00:21:09.820 every day. You don't see him on Twitter, quiet. You don't even know if he exists. No one knows

00:21:13.520 what he's doing. He could be golfing right now. We have no, he could be playing video games right

00:21:16.540 now, Fortnite. We don't know what he's doing right now, right? We have no idea what he's

00:21:19.300 doing right now. Then he becomes the president. And now we have the new, you know, everything

00:21:25.480 that's coming out. Do you think he's going to be the president that'll be quiet? We won't

00:21:31.640 hear a lot from him. He'll be a little bit center left. He'll do some of the stuff that

00:21:36.140 he needs to do to protect the left, but not far left. And he'll stay committed to his

00:21:41.200 views and he'll be controlled by Wall Street. That's going to encode certain things that

00:21:44.560 we need you to do this. We need you to do this. We need you to do that. But there's not going

00:21:48.040 to be any major changes taking place for you. Or do you think he's just getting warmed up?

00:21:53.280 Be patient. There's going to be dramatic changes taking place between now and midterms.

00:21:57.260 Well, I think there are dramatic changes taking place. I mean, basically he's put Israel on notice.

00:22:01.840 And of course, you now have the issue of what's happening to Bibi Netanyahu. And you've got the

00:22:07.320 communist Chinese helping the Iranians stir up a hornet's nest. They've already issued the kinds 1.00

00:22:12.360 of orders to our military that, quite frankly, I don't see them helpful. I mean, his executive

00:22:18.020 order is saying that the military's got to help transsexuals. That does nothing for military

00:22:23.760 readiness. They're non-deployable. I mean, there's no way that that's a positive sign for our military.

00:22:29.860 They've already looked at the weapons exchanges we've got with Saudi Arabia, with Taiwan. In other

00:22:35.940 words, what we've been doing is trying to build relationships with allies who can help us carry

00:22:40.280 out our foreign policy. He said the other day that diplomacy is now the center of our foreign policy.

00:22:45.320 This is a speech that he made at the State Department. Au contraire, Mr. President, the fact

00:22:50.480 is diplomacy is not the center of our foreign policy. U.S. interests are the center of American

00:22:56.300 foreign policy. Diplomacy is simply a tool by which you get what is best for our country. I mean,

00:23:03.460 and so I don't necessarily agree with you, Patrick, that he's going to be just a center-left kind of

00:23:09.080 guy. I look at those kinds of things that are happening today and the effect it's having on our

00:23:14.380 allies, the effect that it's going to have on our adversaries, and saying, this is not helpful.

00:23:19.460 But domestically, the idea that we're going to solve the problem of COVID, right, with nothing

00:23:26.160 more than wearing a mask, and oh, by the way, you know, airlines have got to make sure that everybody

00:23:30.200 gets on an airplane, gets tested. You're talking years away. I mean, the idea of delays, and I'm

00:23:38.260 looking out into the beautiful mountains of Virginia right here, but I'm looking at empty parking lots in

00:23:44.280 the middle of the day. The highways are empty coming to work, and I live 75 miles west of Washington,

00:23:50.640 okay? When I get on the road nowadays, and there's very little traffic still, right? And the idea that

00:23:56.480 we can have this many people out of work, and they're now going to pass additional funding that

00:24:00.740 it's going to give everybody, what, $1,400 in their pocket? To me, that's not the answer. The answer

00:24:08.400 is getting people vaccinated so that we're not going to be hit with this plague for Psalm 101 in the old

00:24:14.260 Testament, what nice Jewish friends of mine call the Torah. Psalm 101. Look at what is written there

00:24:20.660 about pestilence, plagues, and enemies. And that's why I say that most of what we need today is a

00:24:27.840 spiritual reawakening in this country. It doesn't have to be a particular denomination, but you can't

00:24:34.220 alienate Christianity in this country by doing many of the things that they're doing. I mean, socially, 1.00

00:24:39.420 the idea of saying the taxpayers of the United States are now going to pay, because of these

00:24:44.680 executive orders, the people of America are now going to pay for abortions worldwide, and Planned 0.81

00:24:51.080 Parenthood is going to be able to carry them out in the United States. Donald Trump stopped that,

00:24:55.060 much to the acclaim of probably being the best, most pro-life president we've ever had.

00:25:00.400 And unfortunately, all that's being changed. So culturally, spiritually, politically, economically,

00:25:09.020 and national security-wise, I don't see Biden as being particularly helpful to what we need to be

00:25:14.060 as a nation. Well, you're saying far left? I mean, far left to me is raising taxes, you know,

00:25:19.400 and getting rid of all the tax cuts that we had the last four years. Far left for me would be,

00:25:24.420 you know, if we go out there with the $30 trillion budget over the next 10 years for climate change.

00:25:29.660 Far left would be, let's eliminate all of college debt, the $1.5 trillion, which is what Elizabeth

00:25:34.480 Warren proposed. Far left to me is UBI, let's give a $1,000 income for every American, the whole

00:25:39.820 Andrew Yang. So that's why, I mean, I see far left, because I've lived in far left. So far left,

00:25:46.040 then you have left. So far left to me is socialism, communism. Do you think he's going to go that far?

00:25:53.200 Well, certainly, if we did the things that the vice president of the United States once done,

00:25:57.580 and he does it legislatively, because, you know, we've lost the Senate, the conservatives lost

00:26:02.720 the Senate, she now makes it, she's already done it twice now. And she's probably going to do it again 0.99

00:26:08.020 here in these hearings that are ongoing right now. And they're going to continue this farce that's

00:26:12.940 happening in Washington, DC. I don't see any of that misunifying to this country, or good for the

00:26:18.320 future. Again, I come back to those 18 grandkids. Yeah, right. I mean, I, the middle school ones,

00:26:24.600 okay, when I get home at night, they say to Granddad, what is this about an impeachment?

00:26:30.020 They've got the Constitution they're supposed to be looking at. And I don't see any provision for

00:26:34.420 that in this Constitution right here, Granddad. How can we be doing it? I said, because the far left

00:26:39.480 is in charge of Washington, DC. I mean, Patrick, if you think about it, the Constitution has guided

00:26:46.520 nearly every president. And through this, the most difficult times we've ever had as a nation,

00:26:51.780 a civil war, right? And so people say, is this the worst of times? Heck no. America survived far

00:26:57.940 worse than this. You know, 670,000 Americans died in that civil war, and the population wasn't a third

00:27:03.820 of what it is today. So I, my concern, Patrick, is that too many people are taken up. It's okay,

00:27:09.660 it's going to be all right. Well, I'm kind of there with you. I think the future looks bright. And I don't

00:27:15.560 see him being the far left, because I don't see Biden as a true believer. I see Sanders as a true

00:27:20.800 believer, meaning Sanders becomes president, you're not going to be able to control him. He's going to

00:27:25.580 do what he's going to do, because he could care less. He's been a true believer since he got married

00:27:28.520 in Russia. I don't see Biden as a true believer. I see Biden as a JFK coming from there. Maybe he's

00:27:34.700 moved a little bit more to the left, because that's what the times have changed. And by the way,

00:27:38.220 this is not an endorsement. This is not an endorsement I'm given. I'm just saying the concerns,

00:27:43.840 because now that it's validated, I understand during the 18 months of campaign, if Biden gets elected,

00:27:48.360 it's going to be this, it's going to be that. But now that we're here, and everybody wants to try

00:27:52.800 to figure out how to pivot and make the adjustments, is it the end of the world? I think I'm kind of

00:27:57.320 with you. I don't think it's the end of the world. I would point out to you that if Kamala Harris

00:28:01.180 becomes the president of the United States, I agree. All right. The goose is pretty well cooked

00:28:06.180 at that point. Okay. I agree there. I agree there. So 2024, do you think 2024 Biden will still run,

00:28:13.380 or will the face be Kamala? What do you think is going to happen in 2024?

00:28:17.620 Look, I think enough people are already finding out how, what's the right word? I don't think the

00:28:22.720 guy's got Alzheimer's or anything, but I think he's a feeble man. I don't see him as a leader. 1.00

00:28:28.620 I mean, if you wanted to be a great leader, right, you get elected president of the United States,

00:28:34.780 the Speaker of the House, who is a crazy leftist, stands up and says, we're going to impeach the guy

00:28:39.560 that you just beat. And at that point, a real leader says, I really want to be the unifier of

00:28:44.440 America, picks up the phone and says, Ms. Pelosi, stop it. Stop it before you vote on it, because

00:28:51.740 it's not, first of all, he's not going to get convicted. And all it's going to do is make it

00:28:55.920 more difficult to unify the country. He's not really a unifier. You see, he's quite frankly,

00:29:01.440 he's not much at all. I agree with you. He's not the far crazy leftist that Kamala Harris is,

00:29:06.500 but the bottom line of it is, God forbid, something happens to the guy. I mean, he's older

00:29:11.000 than I am, and I'm a pretty old guy. And so I don't think he's going to be shoveling off the

00:29:16.620 deck over in Massachusetts Avenue where he lived, where he once lived, or the White House. But the

00:29:22.520 bottom line of it is something happens to him. She convinces people to invoke the 25th Amendment,

00:29:28.240 which a lot of people were trying to get Vice President Pence to do. He had the wisdom not to

00:29:32.360 do that. He had the wisdom to make sure that there was a transition. And the letter he wrote,

00:29:37.880 and I was just looking at it before we went on air, and I couldn't find the darn thing.

00:29:41.660 The letter he wrote about why he did not do what others were urging him to do, and others included

00:29:47.940 President Trump, was the Constitution of the United States. It's a beautifully written piece.

00:29:53.560 It ought to have been on the front page of every newspaper in America, and it wasn't. And

00:29:57.400 unfortunately, it's not in front of me, because I read it in the record right here with you, Patrick,

00:30:02.560 because it's right spiritually, it's right economically, it's right politically, and it's

00:30:07.700 a constitutional answer to why he didn't invoke the 25th Amendment or try to get all of what was

00:30:14.180 going on in Washington turned upside down. And unfortunately, what happens on the 6th just

00:30:20.340 takes all the accomplishments of that administration, and there are many, and basically buries them

00:30:26.860 underneath that riot that occurred up on Capitol Hill.

00:30:30.160 I agree with that. There's something very, I don't know what it is, like there's something

00:30:36.160 very peaceful about Mike Pence. I don't know how to describe it. He just, I'm sure you saw

00:30:42.160 the debate between him and Kamala Harris, like the way he gave her respect, but he addressed

00:30:47.160 the concern. Yeah, so tell us what are you going to be doing with court packing? Is it fair

00:30:50.280 to say that you're not going to, yeah, we're going to be court packing? You know, we're not,

00:30:53.220 you know, not, she didn't say that. She said, how about all the unfair, the fact that we don't

00:30:57.580 have a single, you know, applicant? And so she took that, okay, so you are planning on court packing

00:31:02.160 and some of the stuff he talked, I like the way he approaches it. Do you think he's the leading

00:31:07.020 candidate for 2024 for Republicans?

00:31:09.320 I do. Okay. I've known him a long time. I know a lot of the people very close to him.

00:31:15.300 He has a son who's a United States Marine, and who I talked to before he decided to do so. And

00:31:21.660 I think what Vice President Trump, Vice President Pence offers is the kind of leadership that the

00:31:28.260 Republican Party desperately needs right now, and quite frankly, the nation needs. I mean, he's a

00:31:32.860 spiritually devoted individual. He knows his Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. He's unashamed to say so.

00:31:37.720 He's the kind of person who is a uniter, and he's done so with the Republican Party before,

00:31:41.660 because when he was in the Congress, he actually brought together the Conference of Republicans,

00:31:46.180 and Republicans have always been kind of throwing their elbows out and getting in the way of each

00:31:49.900 other. And he brought them together as the head of the Republican Conference in that Congress,

00:31:54.300 in the House of Representatives. He became a great governor of Indiana. He brought people into the

00:31:59.240 Republican Party who had never been there before, and President Trump, to his credit, did people

00:32:03.880 the same thing. Now the guy who can do that probably best is new, I think his title now is

00:32:09.200 visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation. And he's going to be hopefully your guest and mine on

00:32:14.520 our podcast. We had the president of Heritage University here, whom we had a wonderful conversation

00:32:23.200 with. I mean, it's just a fabulous conversation with, and I got more messages from his wisdom that

00:32:29.340 my kids are going through some of his courses, and they're nine and seven years old, they're taking

00:32:34.540 courses. But so going back to that, so if Mike Pence is the lead for Republicans, you know, who

00:32:42.380 would you put second, third? Do you think Trump has a chance of running again in 2024? The best thing

00:32:47.900 is for him to just sit this one out and say, look, you've done your part, you're a one-term president,

00:32:52.500 let somebody else come in. What do you think is going to happen with Trump?

00:32:54.840 Well, I'm not Jewish, so I don't have the gift of prophecy. So, but look, my sense is

00:33:03.680 that the damage that was done on the 6th, and the damage that's being done right now

00:33:09.900 on Capitol Hill in the United States Senate, and the damage that they're going to try to destroy this

00:33:17.380 man, okay? They're going to bring lawsuits against every one of his hotels, all of his golf courses,

00:33:23.140 there's going to be an inquisition the likes of which none of us can imagine. I've been through

00:33:28.200 a little bit of that back in the 80s. There's going to be Senate investigations, there's going

00:33:32.380 to be House investigations, there's going to be criminal charges brought by probably a dozen or

00:33:37.700 more U.S. attorneys. What it's going to do is try to, they're going to try to ruin him, right? And so

00:33:43.600 given that reality, and given the fact that he's got a bunch of kids of his own, and a bunch of

00:33:48.640 grandkids, he would be wise, I think, to focus on that, to encourage others to get involved in it.

00:33:55.100 I don't think you've got to give up a leadership role, but I think what needs to happen right now

00:33:59.720 is he needs to protect himself and his family. He needs around, I hate to say this, and don't tell

00:34:05.640 anybody that, I have a son who's a lawyer, so don't put that out there. But he needs some really

00:34:10.920 good lawyers around him, and he's not had a bunch of them yet.

00:34:13.200 Yeah, I mean, it's, I mean, if you're saying not a bunch of them, you're putting Giuliani

00:34:19.620 as not a good lawyer, if you're saying that. But I don't think that's what you're saying.

00:34:23.980 Rudy Giuliani was a great mayor.

00:34:25.580 Wow, okay, fair. I mean, if that's what you're saying, that's a pretty direct call out right

00:34:29.120 there. But do you think Mike Pence will be able to unite the Lincoln Project folks, which

00:34:35.520 is the McCains and the Bushes and the MAGA crowd? Do you think Mike could bring those two together

00:34:40.180 and get some of the independents on his side? I think so. I mean, I trust his instincts

00:34:46.300 on top of that. I mean, he's got a great career as a congressman, as a radio talk, going to

00:34:53.740 do a podcast now, just like you and I do. He's going to make sure that the kind of folks

00:34:57.380 that he puts around him reinforce his spiritual nature, his economic ideas, his national security

00:35:03.320 ideas, protecting American sovereignty, all those kinds of things that really ultimately

00:35:08.140 are important to the American people. And I think he's got a couple of years to make all that

00:35:11.580 happen. I mean, quite frankly, in looking at the makeup of the U.S. House of Representatives

00:35:17.960 and the numbers of Republican senators who are now retiring, I think it's much more likely we take

00:35:23.620 back the House of Representatives in two years than it is we take back the Senate.

00:35:28.780 Interesting to say that. Really?

00:35:31.020 Now, you've got to understand, Patrick, if I knew so much about politics, you and I would be having

00:35:36.680 this conversation from my U.S. Senate office. Last time I checked, I'm not there.

00:35:42.860 Fair enough. Fair enough. So, okay, I have two other topics and a bonus question about a movie

00:35:47.720 that I'm curious to know what your answer is going to be with this. Let's touch on the next topic.

00:35:51.800 Negotiating with China and Iran. You've dealt with Iran before. Obviously, Iran contract for back in 0.95

00:35:56.560 the 80s. You kind of alluded to it a minute ago. But what is the right approach to negotiate with

00:36:01.840 a China or to negotiate with an Iran? I'm curious to know your answer on those two.

00:36:05.940 I look at the proper words would be something like what Ronald Reagan used to be, trust but verify.

00:36:12.080 Okay. The Jikpowa, the joint cooperation so-called deal with Iran, was a terrible piece of legislation.

00:36:20.340 It's a terrible diplomatic effort. Okay. You can't go back to that. You've got to make sure that you

00:36:26.200 can address the things and hold them accountable. I mean, accountability is the whole name of the

00:36:31.020 nature of what we're talking about. How do you verify with them and hold them accountable? How

00:36:34.920 do you do that? Keep the sanctions on. In other words, go to your allies. And we've got a bunch

00:36:39.940 of them, no matter what other people want to say about them. But the Europeans have got to backstop us 1.00

00:36:46.160 on holding the sanctions in place. Because the sanctions are hurting the Ayatollahs. And the

00:36:51.940 sanctions can make them work. And the people look at it and say, why do we have this terrible

00:36:56.800 theocracy running our judicial system, our government, our economy, and the Islamic Revolutionary 0.80

00:37:03.400 Guard Corps spewing terrorism around the world? And they literally have the ability to do that.

00:37:09.280 So make sure that they're held accountable. Number two, China is the same thing. If you look at what 0.79

00:37:14.480 China is doing in all kinds of the economy, national security, international affairs, space,

00:37:20.580 all of it. Stealing the intellectual property of the American people is not the way to get it done. 0.51

00:37:26.500 If they want to compete fairly on the world stage, fine. We're the ones that let them in. Remember,

00:37:30.880 the so-called Obama-Biden administration are the ones that let them in the WTO. The Obama-Biden

00:37:38.620 administration believed what they were telling them about various other communicable diseases back

00:37:45.000 through organizations at the United Nations that the Communist Chinese dominate. I'm talking about 0.99

00:37:50.380 World Health Organization, right? I mean, we just had a WHO spokesman. Was it yesterday? Day before

00:37:56.020 yesterday? Stand up and say, we've looked around. We now know this disease did not come out of a

00:38:00.960 laboratory in Wuhan province. We do know that? I mean, I don't know. Don't get me wrong. I don't

00:38:06.120 pretend that I would know how it got spread, how it was created. But I do know how it got spread,

00:38:11.680 because they shut down all kinds of internal movement inside China, and they allowed people to go

00:38:17.400 overseas. Where's the first big European outbreak? It's in Northern Italy. Why? Because the Communist 0.94

00:38:24.040 Chinese bought out Lamborghini, Ferrari, all of those big clothing makers and handbag makers and 1.00

00:38:32.760 shoemakers. And the label on the thing still says, made in Italy, right? You look at a Ferrari,

00:38:40.180 it says, but who made it in Italy? Hundreds of thousands of Communist Chinese experts went over there,

00:38:46.180 took over the businesses. And of course, the Italians made money on it. They were glad to have 1.00

00:38:50.400 it. And of course, the product is still made in Italy. But those people who were coming back and

00:38:55.240 forth weekly out of Wuhan province, spread the disease first to Italy, and now, of course, the 0.99

00:39:00.840 rest of the world. Same thing of all these other places. You know, look at Brazil, look at Panama,

00:39:05.900 look at, as I say, sub-Saharan Africa. I know I'm not a doctor. I don't pretend to be. But you know

00:39:11.640 what? There's a reason why people who take hydroxychloroquine from malaria aren't getting

00:39:18.020 the disease as rapidly as we are here. Why is that? Because they take hydroxychloroquine. Now,

00:39:24.700 I'm not telling people to stop, you know, go. I'm not telling people they ought not to get a

00:39:28.560 vaccination. Betsy and I got ours. We're going for a final one on Friday. The bottom line of it is

00:39:33.380 there's reasons why places where malaria has been dominant don't get the disease at the same rate

00:39:40.860 we do. And their medical infrastructure is a fraction of what we have. So I look at those

00:39:47.020 kinds of things. I say, there's got to be a way that we can hold communist China accountable. 0.79

00:39:51.260 And Hunter Biden cannot be the architect of our policy toward China.

00:39:56.040 Do you think the sanctions on China and Iran are going to stay put or do you think Biden's

00:39:59.460 going to lift them? I think he's already in the process of lifting it. He's talking to other people

00:40:03.600 about it. He's talking to them about it. I mean, if you do that, the idea of a revolution or

00:40:08.160 even a guard, I was in Iran when the revolution took place from Shah to Khomeini. And there's a

00:40:14.160 formula for it. You know, Carter pretty much choked the Shah until it was too late. He's like, 0.97

00:40:19.680 yeah, we're coming. We'll support you. We'll support you. We'll support you. Sorry, we can't

00:40:23.020 support you. What do you mean you can't support me? Hey, I think it's best you leave. What do you

00:40:26.380 mean that's best? It's my country. So it was a very interesting strategy that they used back then

00:40:32.140 with Carter. I mean, we're very close to getting there with Iran. But if they lift the sanctions,

00:40:37.700 we may be waiting another 10 to 20 years to see another pressure type situation like now,

00:40:44.900 like we have right now in Iran, where there is a possibility of regime change. So if those things

00:40:49.880 are lifted, I don't think that's changing anytime. So next topic here, since you were the president of

00:40:55.340 NRA, last month, January to January, gun sales is up 80%. Two million plus sales of firearms last

00:41:02.700 month. It's the third biggest month ever. Last year in 2020, I think we're up 64% from the year

00:41:09.340 prior to that. The numbers are just staggering what's going on right now. Why are so many Americans

00:41:15.140 buying 80% more guns in January compared to last January? Why now? What are they thinking about?

00:41:22.720 I'm curious what you'll say about that. Well, you know, first of all, you had a president last

00:41:27.380 January named Donald Trump, who is a big supporter of the Second Amendment. Okay, number two, you now

00:41:33.100 have a president who's not a big supporter of the Second Amendment. And people are very concerned about

00:41:37.320 being able to protect their families. Look, we've saw we saw the summer of riot, right? With

00:41:44.060 organizations that are now quote, I don't know how they're going to do this. But these are

00:41:49.480 organizations, BLM, Intifada, Boogaloo, QAnon, who are rioting all over major cities, Portland,

00:41:58.500 Seattle, Milwaukee, LA, Washington, DC, burning, destroying. And people looked at it and said,

00:42:05.260 hmm, I don't have a way of protecting my family. And they went out and bought firearms. Okay. And they

00:42:10.280 can still do that today, except things are about to get a whole lot worse here in the state of

00:42:14.680 Virginia. Because we got a crazy governor who is literally, forgive me for putting it this way. But

00:42:19.740 this is the truth. He is a baby killing, gun grabbing, race baiter, who is going to come after

00:42:28.240 the guns. Okay. Well, let me just quick story without confessing any crimes. I've already been

00:42:34.360 there once. Never again. When our kids, when our grandkids, we had 11 grandsons and seven

00:42:40.820 granddaughters. When they turn 14, I'm allowed to give a present to their birthday. And it's a box.

00:42:48.480 It's a long box. And inside, on the front of the box, it says, if you learn to use everything in this

00:42:54.980 box, you'll never go hungry. You'll never be lost. And you need fear of nothing. And I will show you

00:43:00.380 how. And they open the box up. And the first thing they see isn't a firearm. They know there's one in the

00:43:05.400 box because they can feel the weight of it. And they've seen it happen with their older siblings,

00:43:09.740 cousins. And the first thing they pick up is the Holy Bible. And I said, it just happens that half

00:43:14.480 the months a year have 31 Proverbs in it. Right? And, you know, there's 31 Proverbs. And I want you

00:43:21.560 to go on the very first thing about using this present is I want you to do one a day and come

00:43:26.820 back and give me a book report 31 days from now. Right? And they do. And the second thing is a map and a

00:43:33.300 compass. And I used to teach land navigation to Marines. Right? And they, there's, there's just

00:43:40.540 like you've got in a Marine, you know, training command, you've got engineer stakes and a metal

00:43:47.340 box welded to it out in the woods at terrain features. And I show them how to use that map

00:43:52.300 sheet, one to 25,000 scale, and that compass, how to navigate. And of course, the third thing is,

00:43:58.660 and after I've teach them that, I said, then I'm going to let you have this shotgun. It's going to be

00:44:02.720 engraved on the side that this is a gift from granddad, not my name, just granddad. Okay.

00:44:08.520 And it's your name on it. And it's your birthday. And I will take you out and I will show you how to

00:44:13.860 take it apart and put it back together, blindfolded. Then I'll show you how to clean it. And then I'll

00:44:18.720 show you how to shoot it. So that at the end of the day, you're not going to waste it. It's a shotgun.

00:44:24.020 You're not going to waste it missing birds. And I can, I have a wonderful experience doing that kind

00:44:29.060 of thing. There's lots of people who are going to find that to be unlawful because a 14 year old is

00:44:34.700 now supposed to get a background check. What the hell's a background check on a 14 year old kid

00:44:40.140 to look like? And the only wrinkle in that fabric was after one of the girls watched her older brother

00:44:45.300 get a shotgun, she asked, granddad, where's mine? So I got to go out and buy another shotgun.

00:44:51.820 If I give that shotgun to her, am I breaking the law in Virginia? I don't know yet.

00:44:56.380 That's why people are pressed now to get a firearm. That's why concealed carry permits are

00:45:01.520 just off the charts. And that's a good reason that Americans are still able to protect their

00:45:08.520 families against the uncertainty of somebody showing up on your back porch, trying to knock

00:45:13.240 your door down. And they're not the law, they're criminals. And so given the temperature of the

00:45:19.400 times, I think it's appropriate. What's unfortunate is the fact that Virginia is a big military state.

00:45:24.600 Like what do you, what do you, what are you doing touching Virginia? The history, the rich history

00:45:30.540 of Virginia, like I understand some other states, but Virginia is decked out with the military. So

00:45:36.680 you gave me a great opportunity. This is a book about a Virginian who in 1775 got a note from George

00:45:45.660 Washington, who's up in Cambridge. People forget the youngsters don't get history unless they live 0.89

00:45:50.260 with granddad. And the rifleman is a fellow by the name of Daniel Morgan. And he writes to Morgan,

00:45:56.640 who he'd come to know during the French and Indian war. And he says, come to Cambridge with a hundred

00:46:01.160 Virginia rifles, which means the guys to carry him. And so he does. It takes him 21 days to walk from

00:46:08.120 Winchester, Virginia, literally right down the street from where we live, just on the other side of the

00:46:13.360 Shenandoah River. And it were 21 days. If you do it on the highway, it's about a 480 mile walk. But

00:46:21.740 you know, I-95 wasn't there. There were no bridges. There were ferry boats across the rivers. There were

00:46:26.860 some places where you could ford the rivers. And it's so 600 miles in round numbers. He arrives 21 days.

00:46:33.420 I tell the Boy Scouts the story and I said, let's go for a hike. Just imagine trying to walk 25 or 30 miles

00:46:39.520 a day in the middle of a forest, in the middle of, you know, literally the middle of summer. And he

00:46:45.380 arrives up in Boston. The autumn is just beginning. And the first thing that happens is Congress,

00:46:50.980 Congress, in their infinite wisdom, orders Washington to attack Quebec. And of course,

00:46:56.340 they arrive at literally the walls around Quebec on New Year's Eve. And the next day,

00:47:02.040 the enlistments expire and they've been defeated. That's book one about Daniel Morgan. Book two,

00:47:08.440 coming out this summer. Wow. Thank you for giving me the chance to promote it.

00:47:13.300 That is amazing. Last question for you before we wrap up. You ever seen a movie, A Few Good Men

00:47:17.500 with Jack Nicholson? Oh, sure. Okay. So, you know, the last part where, you know, Tom Cruise goes up and

00:47:23.620 tell me the truth. You can't have, you want another, tell me, you can't have another. And he finally says

00:47:27.580 it like Code Red and the whole thing, they go back and forth. You know, I'm going to try to ask this

00:47:33.380 question the way for it to make sense to you. So, you know, guys campaign, I will not raise taxes.

00:47:42.240 They become president, they raise taxes. Okay. You will be able to keep your insurance, Paul,

00:47:46.980 you know, you can. Okay. So that's a lie. Let's just qualify that as a lie. Let's set that part

00:47:52.800 aside. But then the other part of it is behind closed doors, you're negotiating, you're doing

00:47:59.360 some stuff that it's not black and white. There's a, there's gray area in it, you know,

00:48:04.820 in military to develop, to go through war and people's lives on the line. You know, I interviewed

00:48:10.300 a sniper yesterday, 33 confirms in a hundred days in Afghanistan. It's a different level. Like you

00:48:14.940 can't explain it, but you know, some of the stories, Hey, let me tell you what happened over

00:48:18.460 here. Right. Do you think there's an element of things that happened behind closed doors with

00:48:24.000 presidents, with military, with war, with negotiation that the day-to-day person couldn't

00:48:32.080 handle the truth if we really knew what was really taking place? I don't know if that question makes

00:48:36.800 sense or not. You know what? Look, I think to the extent this is possible, you can't do this if

00:48:42.100 you're building a weapon system or an intelligence collection system, but you can do it with almost

00:48:46.980 everything else. If there's not a national security component that needs to be kept secret,

00:48:51.460 there ought to be transparency. I mean, look at a husband cannot get along with a wife

00:48:56.860 or vice versa if they're not transparent with one another. Ultimately it all comes apart,

00:49:02.300 right? And we've seen that happen to friends of ours and you have too. Look at the idea of

00:49:07.580 transparency is valid. There needs to be more of that in Washington. There needs to be more

00:49:12.320 cooperation. There needs to be unifying, but none of that's happening with this administration.

00:49:16.860 That's why I take part, I'm not trying to disagree with you completely, but I think Biden is a failed

00:49:24.760 leader already. And I think he's doing things behind the scenes. Ultimately they're going to

00:49:29.380 require legislation and hopefully there'll be enough Republicans left together, hang together,

00:49:34.560 literally, as Ben Franklin said, we'll either hang together or hang separately. The fact is the

00:49:39.440 Republican party's got to get their act together. I still believe that the right guy to do that is

00:49:43.760 Mike Pence. I still believe that the American people want capitalism. You and I are capitalists,

00:49:49.920 we're entrepreneurs, we want that kind of opportunity. I want it most of all for my grandkids,

00:49:55.720 right? Because they are the next generation of people who are going to inherit whatever mess we 1.00

00:50:01.460 leave them. And the idea of leaving them in trillions and trillions of dollars of debt that

00:50:06.680 they're never going to be able to pay off. And then to promise, oh, by the way, the government's

00:50:11.340 going to take care of your college loans. The idea that the government can do everything

00:50:17.600 is a foreign idea to the framers of our constitution. The constitution was created to

00:50:24.180 protect us, we the people. That's the first three words of that constitution, right? Hundreds of times

00:50:30.480 I've raised my right hand to administer that oath. And we've committed to defend against all enemies,

00:50:36.100 foreign and domestic, the constitution of the United States. And I look at that, and the oath

00:50:42.920 ends with, so help me God. If you go to my website, you can see one of those oaths being given to those

00:50:49.100 guys. And they're all shouting it out together. We've got to return to the spiritual roots of this

00:50:54.380 country. That's what gives me hope. That's what gives me assurance that things are going to turn

00:50:58.540 out better than they sometimes look today. Probably better. Here, we're supposed to get

00:51:02.760 between seven and nine inches of snow tomorrow. And over the course of the next four days,

00:51:07.260 another one of these Biden blizzards that just come down and shut everything down. And Lord

00:51:13.480 willing, that won't happen to our country. Well, sir, thank you so much for your time. I have

00:51:18.700 really, really enjoyed having you on. Thank you. I have too. And I appreciate it. I enjoy it the way I

00:51:26.060 always do. Semper Fidelis. That's the motto of the United States Marine Corps. But it's more than

00:51:30.780 a slogan. It's a way of life. Always faithful. Thank you, Brad. Thank you. What a story, right,

00:51:37.060 from a man that's got experience personally with Iran, with, you know, politics, with challenges in

00:51:42.340 the past to give perspective and color on what's taking place today. I'm curious to know what you

00:51:46.560 took away from it. Comment below. Also, if you enjoyed this interview, I think you'll also enjoy my sit

00:51:50.480 down with Larry Arnn, who is the president of Heritage University. If you've never seen that,

00:51:55.800 click over to watch that interview. Take care, everybody. Bye-bye.

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